Who here /terf/? There's too many trannies on this board

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terf is one of their retarded words.

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>>37449218
I'm reclaiming it

>>37449316
why would you claim a tranny word

>>37449382
I'm not really but it's comical how they throw it around

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>>37449316
just say you hate trannies.

I'm here.

>tfw modern feminism is a fucking Stacey popularity contest instead of real political philsophy

It's all downhill from here, ladies.

>but I'm reading Dworkin's Scapegoat and loving it
> also gathering reference letters to apply to an m.sc program

What are you all up to?

benighted: you can't be a woman if you have a Y chromosome
farsighted: you can't be a woman if you're over 30

>>37449382
>having a benis and no womb
lmao literally worth nothing in 15 years when you start aging like milk

>>37449382
Because it's accurate.

Unlike "cis".

>>37449502
It's not even about hate. It's more about a philosophical disagreement about what gender is. Although, yeah, I do get irritated when they try to guilt lesbians into putting out because I loathe all forms of sexual coercion.

>>37449547
why do you care about that when you only date women who look like men

>>37449502
> hate
Why is this always the kneejerk reaction?

So I watch a lot of right wing shows because it makes for a healthy political life, and I got around to the debate about Caitlyn Jenner's award nomination with Ben Shapiro.

The entire time people were screeching at him and using fallacies.
> someone outright implied that trans people in America are in a similar situation as Jews under Nazism

I just find it very revealing that queer theorists always seem to turn to violence and psychological manipulation ( " you hate me! You bigot! Wah!").

>>37449626
>I don't have male socialization!
>dykes are ugly!

Although, yeah, the other anon's comment about physical appearances was shitty.

>>37449626
Because if it's going to have a fucking penis it might as well look like a women you don't get free rent spewing out boy farts you're expected to be a perfect girl and the penis is the trap if that's too much you get no dick or rent

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>>37449547
not sure why that was aimed at me.
Though it's probably better if the population slows down anyway until planetary colonization becomes a thing.

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>>37448433
Girls (female) should not be on this board.

LEAVE

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>>37449678
So do the world a favor and die you disgusting WHORE

>>37449669
>you don't get free rent spewing out boy farts
uhh haha yeah you sure don't
can you imagine someone paying for that haha

>>37449678
Post pic so we can either orbit you for the hot minute of fame your boipucci will collect or let us humiliate you for looking like a hairy boy

>>37449687
>treat me like a girl
>girls leave my board

>>37449687
Girls (male) should leave this thread

>>37449700
seriously haha can you imagine a cute trap just farting all over the place haha gross haha

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>>37449697
I didn't say anything about killing anyone.

>>37449707
My pics are public if you care enough.

>>37449733
>i don't have male socialization
>let me invade your space

Really stimulates the peanuts.

>>37449647
what? i've watched that one and it was more telling when the tranny threatened to kill him just for implying he didn't think trannies were normal, and clearly expected a round of applause from the audience.

>>37449737
Eww, what if like, you hug him and it makes him nervous so he blushes and then his skirt billows out from a huge gross boyfart so you have to carry him out of the room

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>>37449767
I'm telling YOU to die
One less slut in this world PLEASE
Such a whore at such a young age
Don't you ever regret being such a dirty dirty slut

>right now a small misguided part of the current generation is chemically castrating themselves for a meme and a faceapp transformation

I know i should laugh but I can't. (((They))) are having a field day with this

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>>37449798
But im not a slut.
my dude

>>37449792
>ambulance
That was absurd beyond belief.

For the sake of propriety, I think it should be discouraged or prohibited to say things like that in the workplace, since transexuals need to work, too.

However, Zoey willingly went on that show knowing that there would be people like Ben there, and then said that is so fucking stupid. You can't enter what is supposed to be an open forum and then start censoring discussion because your feelings got hurt. If you can't take it, stay in your fucking safe space. You don't need to go on TV.

Honestly, when she kept laying her hands on Ben like a jackass and calling him " little boy", I was expecting him to say, " sure, big man".

>>37449772
I'm allowed to be here mate I'm a neet

>>37449840
this is less jews and more population dynamics but every time i try to explain it people ignore me

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>>37449858
You sell nudes of yourself (at the age of 17, no less) to fatties from this board and you have the audacity to say you're no slut?

>>37449884
you're thinking of ciara

>>37449898
Pretty sure there was a Russian bitch that also sent nudes out like a printer

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>>37449872
Is this on youtube? I kinda wanna watch.

>>37449884
Are you thinking of the right person?
I've never given anyone nudes.

>>37448433
I don't care what they do to themselves or how they live their life. I just don't agree with their idea of what a woman is and think this campaign of theirs to reinforce the concept of biological sex being a competition is such a male thing to do. Women are not competitive by nature. It's only when her psyche has been tainted by a society created by the y chromosome do they start seeing everything as a competition.
's why us real ladies never had period blood contests or look at those females that don't menstruate as being less of a woman. But after generations of brainwashing by the y chromosome menace are we starting to judge ourselves on how womanly we are based on traits arbitrarily associated with us by men.
But again I think they can do whatever, they should just do whatever while learning to coexist with people of opposing beliefs.

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>>37449922
Tell me why I don't believe what an attention seeking tripfag has to say?

>>37449881
it's not one or the other, its a synergy of sociological factors that include the post-modern idealism of what some refer to as "the jews".

So yes, your theory might be correct, but the position that a cultural shift that is being spearheaded by the mass media and special interest groups is also true. It's not binary.

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>>37449953
I mean that's up to you i guess, it's not that big of a deal.

>>37449840
>misguided
Fucking thank you.

What pisses me off is that while I don't believe trannies are "real" women, I think transitioning can be the best current medical option, but only in specific situations.

I'm a lot older than most people on this site and my son's friend claims to be transsexual, and came out to him.

The problem is that this young person's family has a history of paranoid schizophrenia and he is symptomatic. He's incredibly reclusive. He told my son that he keeps a knife under his bed in case someone breaks in. He's 23 and doesn't have a job or do chores. The kid clearly has mental health issues. He asked for my advice and I told him to tell his case worker to do look into a schizophrenic diagnosis. He won't do it. He won't try antidepressants ( and depression can cause psychotic features).

Now this person is transitioning to female. They could be in the middle of a psychotic meltdown, but sure, irreparably change your body.

It's absurd.

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>>37449964
Why do you act like you don't care what others think about you?

>>37449947
I agree. I don't care what men want to do to their bodies whether that's cutting their dicks off or wearing feminine clothing but doing so in the name of "being a woman" is absurd.

>>37449947
Thats bullshit, women can be just as competitive as men. It may happen in different ways, social, bitching, power games and low key stuff as apposed to tearing each other down openly or physical intimidation but competition isnt a man thing.

>>37449922
Yep. Ben Shapiro Zoey Tur debate Caitlyn Jenner award. Daily Liberty is the right wing site I watched it from, but it's all over Youtube.

>>37449947
This.

>>37449988

Fuck off old cunt

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>((((((((((((((Ben Shapiro))))))))))))))))
fuck that slimy little neocon

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>>37450007
Why would i care?

>>37450025
I don't see how anyone could like Caitlyn Jenner.

>>37450023
The difference is they're competing for men not for themselves. Men compete for themselves

>>37450034
Nice retort.

>>37449947
I don't believe in woman nature but the fixation on stereotypical traits always bothered me. These are things that impacted my whole life, these are my chains - but at least they're having fun.

> menstural contests
What.

>>37450049
Because you make it clear who you are before posting by having a trip
If you truly didn't care what people think of you you wouldn't try and make a name for yourself on a board dedicated to social autists. Stop acting so important.

>>37450087
wew this is embarrassing

>>37450087
Also imagefagging is a typical "pay attention to me" behaviour.

Just ignore it, it'll go away.

>>37450087
If that's your issue you really shouldn't give me free attention.

>>37449988
>she's a postmenopausal woman
>she's come to 4chan to stop all this "fun" nonsense
>>>/dmv/
>>>/collegeloanoffice/

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>>37450079
>M-muh chains
>Im offended by how trannies dress!
Fuck off old cunt. You can do and dress as you like, my being a tranny dosent effect you at all.

>>37450158
you can wear dresses all you want and act cute but you're still a man and that's fine

>>37450138
>>37450034
>"Transleople might be mentally ill"
>"I'll get mad, that'll show her!"

>>37450192
just because evolution has equipped you with a hypertrophied sense of purity and disgust is no reason to inflict it on us

>>37448433
>A feminist on 4chan

You're a long way from home cunt

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>>37449881
>this is less jews
it's a continued effort to destabilize our society. it only takes 10-20 years to demoralize and weaken a generation, and long term damage from pic related is what we have to thank for PC culture being pushed by the global media that is (((controlled)))

their end game is so far into the future and perfected that people can't even wrap their minds around what these efforts are all leading to (socialism/communism where zionist bankers will be all but gods)

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>>37450242
>a feminist on r9k

>>37450158
>calls me "old cunt" twice

You're very upset.

>doesn't effect
It's "affect".

And it does because it perpetuates a inherent femaleness that is expressed through social norms which are detrimental to women at large.

You can joke about wearing dresses, but a lot of airlines just permitted female employees to forgo heels, for instance.

>>37450229
You don't disgust me, only confuse and irritate. It's most of society that's disgusted.

>purity
The whole point of terfs is the deconstruction of gender roles.

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>>37450176
Just get off my shit about it because its sad and hilarious. This is why feminism is a joke, even more so crusty old terf's. M-muh periods, muh menopause m-muh pay gap circkejerk.

>>37450242
>bad spelling
>keeps saying "cunt"

This user has some serious problems with female genitals.

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>>37450264
Are you are stewardess who is forced to wear heels? If not, shut the fuck up about it because its not your struggle to claim.

>>37450290
>a tranny desperately tries to appeal to men by criticising feminism and women's appearances

You realise that these men don't care either way, right?

>>37450264
>And it does because it perpetuates a inherent femaleness that is expressed through social norms which are detrimental to women at large.

you see #killallwomen is merely an ironic meme and the real meaning is that we must kill the idea of women (as weak, helpless etc)

>>37449988
this is pretty sad. a huge appeal of the whole tranny thing right now is the communities on tumblr and twitter. since trans can never see the light of day they mostly stick to small communities online. they range from supportive but sensitive snowflakes that glorify mental illness and tokenism to outright insane people who have the real disorder.

in the short term it's going to be good for him, in the long term (like in barely 3 years when this trend completely dies down) he will be even more of a freak with a ruined, broken body.

>>37450326
Nope. Although you're very naive if you don't see how the treatment of women in one section of the workplace sets precedence elsewhere.

Your insistence that your behaviour doesn't "effect" others and this comment shows how willfully myopic you are.

>>37450338
>all these ideologylets who think /r9k/ is misogynist when it's actually at the vanguard of revolutionary feminist praxis

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MEN GET OUT OF MY THREAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>37450338
I don't use Twitter.

Although I find any sort of trivalizing of violence against women uncomfortable.

>>37450352
>online communities
Exactly. This kid is pretty socially isolated and these people offer friendship and solidarity. Several of them were older adults who tried to meet him when he was in high school.

In general, the culture tries to convince everyone to act like them. When I spoke to a few transpeople in real life about how disconnected I felt from feminity ( and that's why I dislike the term cis), they tried telling me I was trans!

>it's not going well
>he has this frizzy afro thing going on
>Fight Club-esque man tits
>badly done makeup

I feel terrible.

>>37450373
When will the real shills be stopped?

>>37448433

>Radshits thinking theyre better than trannies.

You're kind is just as bad and offputtingly manly as the other mutants.

You're only savings grace is your fuckholes.

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>>37450365
>"I have it so tough! Because some stewardess used to have it tough! Thats my proof :( Im soo opressed wah wah :( Its so difficult to be me because of trannies :( :( I dont have an argument so I just attack their spelling :( :( wah wah"

>>37450483
Well, I didn't just attack your spelling. I'd be willing to talk to you, but considering your overwheming hostility, I doubt you'd participate in good faith making the whole experience fruitless.

I really hope that things work out for you.

>>37450475
>>37450483
>we're not men!
>reduces women to their looks and genitals

Yikes.

>>37449600
>Unlike "cis"
"Cis" is literally a scientific term/prefix used in opposition to "trans". It's far more accurate than "terf"

>>37450556
cis is a scientific term but not in this context

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>>37450531
>Comes to R9K, a place filled with trannies, neets and degenerates known for shitposting and hostility
>Describes themselves as a TERF
>Is "overwhelmed" by the hostility.

Wew

>>37450549
I dont reduce women at all. I know im biologically male. A girl (male) if you will. I dont lose sleep over it. Maybe you do but I dont.

I dont know what terf means but if it is some kind of biological realist against the mass dellusion of trannys and that we all have to pretend they are women since a few years now despite they are literally madmen with mutilatet phalli/phalluses, then you got my blessings.

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>>37450433
>they tried telling me I was trans!
what the fuck. it reminds me of the trannies claiming butch lesbians are just ftm in denial. no they're just butch lesbians, they've been around long before this stupid trend and will be around long after.

i don't know. my kneejerk reaction is hate but I wish HRT wasn't being given out so indiscriminately. we have no idea what the long term effects of are. (and no they are not fucking safe). this gen is going to have a shitton of detransitions and a lot of chemically castrated genitals in 3-5 years.

>>37450579
>a place filled with trannies

it's unwanted spillover from /lgbt/. i'm gay and i'd love if that board was purged from 4chan forever

>>37450556
Cis means someone who fits their assigned gender role. What rational human being does?

>literally
>scientific
Fallacious.

>>37450579
Where did I self identify as a TERF?

>degenerates
Oh, please. /r9k/ is where sad twenty something men hang out. It's not this spooky hive of scum and villainy. Saying otherwise is reminiscent of news programs that describe /b/ as the scariest place ever. It's a forum. Stop being so melodramatic.

And yes, I've had plenty of great conversations on this site with people willing to play ball.

>>37450687
mathcfag detectedo

>tfw I'm a tranny posting in this thread

Feels good knowing that even online, we continue to colonize your spaces.

You have nowhere to run.

You have nowhere to hide.

The penises are coming for you.

>>37450687
No, we were here long before lgbt board existed, r9k is substantially older.

>>37450599
>implying that's what anyone is concerned about
>the "maybe you do" projection

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>>37448433
At worst they're deranged men trying to invade women's private spaces.

At best they're men who want to escape from the brutal reality of masculinity they live in.

I'm a man who found peace with his masculine potency, not another tranny or a fembot angry at trannies.

>>37450570
No language is static, anon. The definition of "cis" and "trans" is pretty much the same in isomerism as it is when it comes to gender. It makes sense to transfer and adapt it. It's objective, unlike "terf" which has an ideological connotation

>>37450731
I sincerely don't mind men who just want to reject their masculinity. I just wish they didn't feel the need to transition because of it.

>>37450700
>Cis means someone who fits their assigned gender role
No. It means that there isn't a disagreement between their sex and the gender they feel they are. Gender roles are something different. E.g men should work and women should stay in the kitchen

>>37450722
>that board
>as in /lgbt/ not /r9k/

reading comprehension is hard

>>37450767
I think the term cis is unnecessary. There's no point in using it to refer to people that aren't trans. The term trans itself is pretty unnecessary especially scientifically since trans people should just be referred to by their biological sex. Trans and cis are social terms and not scientific in this context.

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I FUCKING PREDICTED THIS

I FUCKING PREDICTED ALL OF IT

NONE OF YOU EVER BELIEVE ME BECAUSE YOU'RE RETARDED AND I'M CRAZY BUT I FUCKING CALLED IT

THE ALT-RIGHT IS GOING TO SYNCRETIZE WITH RADICAL FUCKING FEMINISM

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FUCKING TRADCON DWORKINITES

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE DEAD AND THIS IS HELL

DO YOU

I FUCKING READ THE FUTURE LIKE LAPLACE'S MCMOTHERFUCKING DEMON

I WOULD BE INFINITELY FUCKING POWERFUL IF ONLY I COULD LEAVE THIS BOARD

This thread convinced me to like trans women a lot more than the femishit harpies

>>37450731
>At best they're men who want to escape from the brutal reality of masculinity they live in.
that's pretty fucking bad. proof (((they))) have their fingers all over this.

>>37450798
It's a huge case of gambler's fallacy and global "progressive" delusion. When they've gone that far and are no happier for it then there is already so much that has been sacrificed for the transitioning. It's not helped by the fact that trans activists and other pro-porn groups have managed to convince everyone that to be anti-trans is to be hardcore christian woman hating conservative.

>>37450867
>trans women

mtf are not women

>>37450873
>the jews are artificially fixing the egg supply so that men become the expendable gender
really tosses my sauerbraten

>>37450624
I'll try to be objective:

There are two main divisions in feminist thinking regarding people with sexual dysphoria.

The first is queer theory, which believes gender is a social construct. As a result, one can identify however they please. Concepts of gender are relative to cultures (and can even be a mode of colonialism). People identifying as trans, nonbinary, genderqueer, etc., defeats gender roles by subverting them. Transwomen are women in every sense and deserve full access to all women's spaces. Any woman who disagrees is a transmisogynist.

The "TERF" perspective is that gender is a social role applied to a set of genitals. One cannot "become" a woman anymore than you can become black or Asian because a woman is a set of expectations set around people with vaginas. Although transwomen who pass may be treated like women, they do not fully understand the experiences of people with vaginas. It is not transmisogynist for a lesbian to reject sex with a person with a penis.

This debate is massive and people have very intense reactions where whole groups of people are thrown out.

>>37450663
>they're just trans
I heard ftms try to argue that Joan of Arc was really a man. And this was "feminist" discourse. Good Lord.

>indiscriminately
Agreed. This is a serious medical undertaking and I feel that politics and feelings are taking precedent where science should prevail. You need to make sure this person isn't going to take some medication later on and have a fit over what has been done to them - but apparently this is "ableist".

I mean, for God's sake, it's illegal to molest a child's genitals, but it's okay to shrivel them up with hormones and increase their chances for cancer? Something about that feels off to me.

>>37450865
>Alt-right blending with Radfem
You didn't see shit, you're just conflating being anti-trans with being right wing.

>>37450851
>I think the term cis is unnecessary
It doesn't matter how you feel about it. If you want to talk about something, you need terms for it. Otherwise you'd just have to explain everything with multiple words in each case, which is cumbersome and makes communication difficult. Maybe not in other languages, but the English language precisely favors shorter words that carry more meaning. That's why run-on sentences are bad.

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>>37450851
>trans people should just be referred to by their biological sex

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>>37450890
They act a lot more like women than feminists

>>37450719
This is a really bad trolling.

We're not scared of your meat tube. Maybe annoyed and gross out, but your attempts to be creepy only intellectually validate us.

>>37450941
I meant that mtf should just be referred to as what they are: men

>>37450923
>it's illegal to molest a child's genitals, but it's okay to shrivel them up with hormones and increase their chances for cancer?
It's illegal to lock them in an aluminium tube and send it flying at a thousand kilometers an hour but it's okay to put your kids on a plane? Something seems off here.

>>37450663
Did you hear about that Jazz kid who can't get an artificial vagina because the hormone blockers stopped his penis growing large enough for it to be worth turning into one? These kids are unhappy and just having their lives destroyed by well meaning adults.

>>37450936
We only need the term trans in a social context not in a scientific context we certainly don't need cis as well

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>>37450923

You are a fucking idiot and you dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Men and boys have it harder in so many ways in this society, girls (male) experience a lot of that shit and go on to experience even more shit that comes with being a tranny as well. We have it tougher than you, get over it.

>>37450946
Please tell me how women should act anon

>>37450824
What is the difference between gender and gender role.

>>37450865
The "wow TERFs are literally Hitler" and "SWERFs are all Christian fundamentalists" is as old as dirt.

>>37450941
What the fuck.
Is sex a social construct or is gender a social construct?
We need something to distinguish you freaks

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>>37450990
My brother has to drink himself into a coma to go on a plane, but that doesn't mean that planes are illogical, it means that people who use this kind of analogy are fucking idiots.

>>37450990
This. Its the most retarded logic ever.
>ITS BAD TO MOLEST A KID SO ITS BAD TO LET THEM BE TRANS. TOTALLY THE SAME THING
Flawless TERF logic

>>37450946
You realise Free Bleed was a joke, right?

Also, it says a lot if mtf are favoured because they prescribe more to gender roles.

>>37450941
> cotton ceiling
I was mad.

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>>37450923
>politics and feelings are taking precedent
it's money that is taking precedent, as always. HRT is said to be $1500 for the doses? That's a nice stack of cash. if they go through with aesthetic surgery after they end up looking like pic related? excellent. If they have a history of health problems by age 40? (((Jackpot)))

>>37450941
>tfw you will never have both the privilege of being a woman and have the upper body strength to beat the shit out of other women in professional sports

>>37450255
Wow I'm a Nazi now

>>37450996
no i did not. god damn that's sad. i love to hate on the snowflakes who list their "afflictions" on a tumblr profile like a badge of honor, or the parents who made their 5 year old transition in order to be on the news, but it's fucking horrible to actually be trans. that kid is probably going to kill himself now.

>>37450990
False comparison.

>>37450996
Oh my God, that poor kid.

>>37451007
I never said men or women had it worst, only that it was different and you couldn't understand my experience as a real woman.

Why are you obsessed with responding to me?

>>37451026
It's been awhile since I watched this but:

I think she was trying to make the argument that people attracted to women might be drawn to a passable transwoman, and that said woman changing her mind because there's a penis is a socially conditioned response?

>>37451001
Yeah, can't you just say "normal people"???

Go fuck yourself

>>37451046
No, it's asking why children are too young to consent to sex, but they're able to make complicated medical decisions that will impact their entire lives when they could easily wait.

I don't care about a boy wearing a dress. I care about >>37450996.

But I'm glad your feelings take precedent over children.

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>>37451026
>We need something to distinguish you freaks
trannies love rileys rapey rhetoric and hate blaire white for saying trans is a mental illness

it's like when caitlynn jenner was dropped like a hot turd after people learned she was still a right leaning conservative.

>>37450433
More on the feeling of disconnect from feminity? I've been feeling this for as long as I can remember but could never put it to words like now. For a time I thought myself I might be ftm, but the idea of it made me qyeasy. It would be nice reading more on it, I could probably relate.

>>37451080
I'm pretty skeptical of conspiracy theories, but I'm open to anything else you have to say.

>>37451173
I think trans people are normal in the same way I think people who don't conform to their gender are normal. There's no biological difference between a man and a mtf other than what the mtf has done to their body to make themselves a "woman".

>>37451167
I only understand and claim my own experience, my own transgender experience and life story and all that entails. I dont claim to understand your experience on this earth or know what its like to be you or any other woman or person than myself for that matter.

>>37451046
it kind of is flawless though. it's wrong to molest children because it traumatizes them and they are 'not ready' for sex, but they are ready to make a decision to change their biological gender with horrible chemicals at age 5-13?

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>>37450934
IT'S HAPPENING IN THIS FUCKING THREAD

IT'S THE FUCKING NORMALFAGS

THEY'RE TEAMING UP TO DESTROY US

I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO

I FUCKING TOLD YOU

YOU IDIOTS

>>37451253
>There's no biological difference between a man and a mtf other than what the mtf has done to their body to make themselves a "woman".
That's just flat out wrong. There are many inherent differences.

>>37451313
Like what? I'm talking about pre-transition no hormone therapy or anything.

>>37451268
But they're sure ready to make a decision to kill themselves during puberty because they're denied those "horrible chemicals"

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>>37451312
Its just a couple of samefags that have tried to invade the board, ive been watching the post count. There isnt any more than 2 of them.

>>37451134
>the nazis are bad!

this is what decades of zionist brainwashing will do to you. ever wonder why you never learned about how many died under communist regimes? that karl marx was a jew? why hitler and napoleon had to go to war? who the rothschild family was and still currently is?

>>37451236
Pretty much what I said above. if you ever wanted to know why the current world is so fucked up and feels like a bizarro dream at the end of someones puppet stick; start following the crumb trails

everyone will think you're insane, but it brings some peace of mind to know how deep the (((control))) really runs.

>>37451298
And who is her, Anon?

>>37451313
Are you talking biological? Psychological? Are you making a difference between the two, or making some kind of biological deterministic argument? Make a statement. Identity isn't just something you can expect to not have to defend.

>>37451353
People kill themselves over a lot of things and teenagers are some of the most vulnerable people out there. Also suicide is a societal thing that is becoming more and more common - are teenagers less happy than they were when there were rigid social structures? Try to think logically.

>>37451350
http://www.journalofpsychiatricresearch.com/article/S0022-3956(10)00158-5/abstract

This for one.

There's also the predisposition to become trans, no?

>>37451353
kids kill themselves over bullies calling them names online. kids are fucking stupid but no one should make the problem worse.

>>37451404
>3 female terfs
>1 male terf
>1 /pol/ terf
>at least 4 trannies who have come from /lgbt/ with their trips taken off and are discussing this thread angrily on discord

That leaves another 13 posters.

>>37451454
>people kill themselves all the time so who cares if we let a few trannies kill themselves?

Dunno, people with empathy?

>>37451216
They're pretty divisive.

I heard rumours (from a not too reputable source) that Sophie Labelle of Assigned Male fame was responsible for kicking other transexuals out of their group homes because they have different political perspectives.

>>37451218
I felt being a woman was a political category I was forced into, and that was why I advocated for other people like myself. However, in my personal life, I never related to what being a "woman" meant, but I wasn't a man.

When I was growing up, people were always asking me when I was going to have kids, why I never wore dresses, etc. When I told my grandpa I wanted to be a doctor, he told me I'd be a fine nurse. I ways always expected to be a caregiver from an immensely young age. I was preparing meals for my eldery relatives while my brother played chicken with his car. Sexual harassment was a big thing and I was told that was part of the feminine experience.

When I did something "unfeminine", I was mocked at best and threatened at worst. My mom thought I was too tomboyish and smashed my records.

When I did something "feminine", it was not because of me, it was because I was a girl.

I never felt dysphoria, but I felt repulsed by people trying to force me into a box of what I should look like.

>my uncle used to pat my chest and say I was going to have big boobs
> when I screamed everyone said that little girls should want to be pretty when they grow up

It's hard to explain. I felt like being a woman was a choice made for me, and I had to respond to how society treated me. However if it wasn't for that outside compulsion, I never would have identified as a woman. I never had dysphoria and love my body. I am not a man and don't think a woman resenting the role laid out for her makes her one.

>>37451464
Not that robot, but interesting. Do they have any longitudinal studies on this pattern? Brains are notoriously plastic.

>>37451439
I wasn't being ironic. It was a joke still, but seeing that image did genuinely evoke some very tribal emotions and I felt, in that moment, some heavy racist thoughts. Thought it was funny how one image like that could instantly make me think typically nazi thoughts.

I'm not good with words but hope what I said made sense.

>>37451483
13 other posters in a thread of 146 posts. Ive seen the poster count remain the same as new people come in to say "wtf I hate trannies now"

>>37451445
Magdalen Berns. She's a radfem youtuber who's made some pretty good replies to libfems and queer theorists

>>37451404
BULLSHIT

THEY'RE NATURAL ALLIES

WE'RE FUCKED

I CALLED THIS AS FAR BACK AS '15. NO ONE LISTENED

DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IT FEELS TO LITERALLY KNOW EVERYTHING AND BE ABLE TO DO NOTHING

IT'S AGONIZING

>>37451506
>I am not a man and don't think a woman resenting the role laid out for her makes her one.

ytho

>>37451464
Thanks. I don't think it's enough to say that this is what makes them more liable to transition but it's pretty interesting. It's a shame they didn't include mtfs as well.

>>37451551
Wow saviour complex much
also no reading comprehension

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>>37451551
S-Stop it anon you are scaring me! Everything is going to be okay! B-Believe me, no one is coming for us. Poltards are a laughing stock since they got culturally enriched by Plebbit and Youtube and TERF's are like 30 people who scheme away in a dark basement (virtual) they can be mean but they dont have the numbers to change things.

>>37451353
>kill themselves
Transition doesn't lower suicide rates.

>>37451454
This. Just because someone threatens to hurt themselves does not mean they know what's best. They could have another medical condition, etc.

If the goal is to improve quality of life and reduce death, why give people something that may reduce life quality and cause death based on....feelings?

>>37451464
Dysphoria's real.

That sex change is always the solution? That they are undoubtably their identified sex in all dimensions? That lesbians are transmisogynist for not sleeping with them?

More questionable.

>>37451483
Can /pol/ be terf if the f stands for feminist?

>>37451483
>coming from lgbt
>on discord
Why.

>>37451497
Nice strawman.

>>37451653
>Transition doesn't lower suicide rates.
Citation needed

>>37451506
That's an interesting view to see your political awakening being almost synonymous with your identification with other women. Kinda common in a way too. /r9k/ is probably the strangest place to be reading this kind of writing though.

>>37448433
I disagree with feminism in principle, but I can respect TERFs because at least they understand reality. A man cannot turn into a woman.

>>37451653
>That lesbians are transmisogynist for not sleeping with them?
Im a tranny and I dont think this, a persons choice to consent is their own and they dont need to justify or explain themselves.

>>37451522
>plastic
Never considered this.

What would this look like over time?

>>37451529
There's also posts saying "omg i hate femnazis trans ppl r the best".

>>37451551
Cool it, Cassandra.

>>37451568
Because it's a political category.

>>37448433
What's a terf?

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>>37450865
>THE ALT-RIGHT IS GOING TO SYNCRETIZE WITH RADICAL FUCKING FEMINISM
>WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FUCKING TRADCON DWORKINITES

Is there a problem with this?

>>37451653
>lesbians are transmisogynist for not sleeping with them

nice strawman

>>37451668
Plenty of studies that say things remain the same after transition, plus they tend to point out that there is an abnormal level of post-op patients being lost track of in said studies.

>>37451739
Why would I want to end the patriarchy? Men are good at running things.

>>37451718
And why shouldn't someone be able to reject that political category?

>>37451690
there are so many of you that think this way on /r/actuallesbians. "woman who happens to have a penis" is thrown around like it's a normal accepted thing there

>>37451757
Then show me those studies. They shouldn't be hard to find if they're so plentiful.

>>37451739
desu most of my radfem leanings come from personal experience and sporadic readings (dworkin, mckinnon, etc), though I've heard of Jensen. Is he useful?

>>37451743
When radfems get lynched by their "progressive" compatriots it often doesn't leave them with many choices. If they're not tacitly supporting the status quo they're finding new and unique ways to confuse people and denigrate their own movements.

>>37448433

>/r9k/
>claiming to be radfems
>not closeted trannies in denial

>>37451757
Thats not true. Suicide rates are lower post OP than pre op. Higher than the general population, so people use this to say that having the surgery puts you at a higher risk of suicide but thats not true, it puts you from a very high risk group to a moderate to low risk group, a big improvement. Not perfect, but a big improvement.

>>37451834
If progressivism and the status quo are both intolerable, why not become a reactionary? Radfem is only one letter away from tradfem :^)

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>>37451642
WHEN HAVE THINGS EVER BEEN OKAY

THEY'LL JUST GET SHITTIER, AS ALWAYS

ENTROPY RULES FUCKING EVERYTHING

EVERY FORUM DIES

MY HOME WILL TURN INTO CANCER

I CAN'T FUCKING DO ANYTHING

>>37451668
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

Although I'll admit this sample size is very tiny.

>>37451680
>political awakening
It actually wasn't!
I was young during the 70s.

I think all women can relate to feeling angry at the role laid out for them. Either because it denies their ability to choose or because they differ from that expectation. It's one of the only commonalities there is.

>weird
No kidding. I feel weird typing it. Although, in all fairness, /r9k/ is usually pretty polite save a few trolls. I have experienced more hostility from modern left communities at times.

>>37451799
Thought I was the only one who noticed that. There certainly is a huge percentage of 'trans women's on that sub, at least relative to the total numbers of female lesbians and trans women.

>>37451927
Ah whoops, sorry to have read that poorly.

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>>37451949
yeah check out the discord. it's 85% talking about shaving facial hair, transitioning, and posting selfies of the most unconvincing trannies i've ever seen in my life

i'm not being hyperbolic either.

>>37451927
>I was young during the 70s.
Mom get out 4chan is my secret clubhouse

How the hell do older rad fems even find themselves browsing /r9k/?

>>37451506
Thanks for taking the time to write out a response, was definitely an interesting read and I can relate a lot. I'm not very good with words and describing my feelings but your posts really help me understand myself better.

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>>37452000
Nice trips and god bless america

>>37450731
Yeah?
What about people like me then? I was born intersex (penis, uterus, ovaries), raised as a boy but identify more as female as I got older..

>>37451746
It isn't a strawman. Google cotton ceiling.

>>37451757
I provided one citation but I'd love some more info.

>>37451774
>reject
You can reject it all you want, but it's reality.

If a black person said " I'm white", would that magically mean that cops won't stop and frisk them? That a judge or jury would treat them with their identified race? Of course not. They're black only because they are perceived as black.

It's the same with gender. A boy in somd country might identify as a girl, but it will be his sister, not him, that undergoes removal of the clitoris and marriage at 13. Inversely, who is going to be drafted?

It's not a matter of personal identification, is a matter of responding to how people respond to your genitals, skin, etc.

>>37451834
> Jensen
Wasn't he part of some deep environmentalist movement?

>>37451551

A lot of mtfs are Nazi consorts. Hell, a lot of you are misogynist trash. It's like you're too stupid to realize how vile you are, but once a woman has an opinion you're like omg nazi!

No male supremacist would ever be a radfem ally.

>>37452047
how the fuck do you think

someone mentions this place in some bloglord "journal" or a closed-access forum circlejerk and they come check it out

then we get to sit here as they try to enlist /pol/ into their schemes and tell us to stop being degenerates

>>37452085

Do you even read? You're a deranged man.

>>37451746

It's LITERALLY what they think, you complete liar.

>>37452108
Things could easily shift to a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation in the near future, especially considering things like transsexualism and islam.

>>37452158

>implying we haven't been here for years

4chan is a hotbed of misogyny. Pays to keep tabs on you assholes.

>>37452000
Yeah I joined the server at one point but have long since left it. It was various thing that made me dislike it (it was practically a mtf support server, there were no I retesting discussions...) but what broke the camel's back was when users were roleplaying in general... With those *owo grabs you and drags you back* type lines. Was just too much haha.

I'm not transphobic, but I think that the mtf and female lesbian experience are worlds apart and they shouldn't have to intermingle... I feel bad for all the non-passing mtfs, though, people are too nice to let them know - and this is coming from a biological female who has struggled with looking masculine her whole life.

>>37452085
Well I don't know, you're going to have to explain your whole life story with a case as complex as yours because actual biological intersex people get a harder and more confusing wrap than most folk do.

>>37452047
It was my eldest son.

>tfw i read greentexts and i start to wonder if this is my kid posting
I felt feelings you people could not imagine.

>>37452053
Oh gosh, I was worried that it was going to be too far removed to help. That's good.

>>37452000
>posting transition photos in any proximity to 4chan
That doesn't sound safe at all.

>is there trans discourse on Chrischan

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>>37452159
>You're a deranged man.
Can you not read?

>>37452207
>son became a robot
>has opinion on anything
hm

>>37452173

Any intelligent radfem (or radfem sympathizer) knows that women have enemies all around us. The enemy of my enemy is just another enemy.

This is why there's the idea in radfem theory that the left wants women to be public property (via porn) and the right wants women to be private property (via marriage). Hopefully we'll see a rise in radfem thought that connects all the cotton ceiling, don't-talk-about-your-vagina, abortion-rights-aren't-women-rights, etc into a real framework, because mtfs are shit and should be treated as the shit they are.

/pol/ are male supremacists. fuck /pol/

>>37452235

>intersex means I'm not a man even though I was raised to be one

lol ok

>>37448433
GUYS. Stop posting. Its just some crusty old woman who is trying to bait people into becoming terfs, just dont give her the attention she wants.

>>37452278
>ovaries and uterus
>man

>>37452296

>exterior body is male
>raised as male
>not a man guys!!!

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>>37452258
Wow stop posting any time, old stupid cunt

>>37452085
Intersex people are interesting, though I don't know that much about how it all works. Do you have an androgynous appearance? How did your parents decide to raise your boy, why do you later in life feel more female?

>>37452099
>is a matter of responding to how people respond to your genitals

Why the fuck are terfs so fixated on genitals? 99% of people don't give a fuck what's in your pants.

If your hypothetical black person that identifies as white had surgeries done to resemble a white person then yeah, the justice system would treat him like one.

>>37452108
I agree a lot of mtfs are misogynistic, but Nazi?

And some TERFs have partnered with conservative movements (ex. Washroom debacle). People are people, and people always try to win in politics rather than learn.

>>37452158
>enlist pol
>degenerates
I get you're referring to a general group but where did this happen in this thread?

Trying to convert pol is a lost cause.

>>37452173
This. Everyone's an oppertunist.

>>37452188
>have to mingle
Apparently "cis" women doing anything own their own ever is a micro-aggression.

Lesbians say they don't want penis. Transwomen are offended. Lesbians suggest an event just for lesbians. Transwomen complain they weren't invited.

>>37452319
>vag removed by surgery after birth
>parents secretly gave me hormones and steroids while growing up to be more male
>found out later in life

>>37452295
Too late I'm a terf now, Anon. What are some good terf forums? I'm itching to read more, this thread was full of interesting discussion, I didn't know there were people who thought the same way as me.

>>37452319
Leave them the fuck alone, who gives a shit how she identifies. Shes intersex anyway I thought you guys only hated us trannies. Christ you are so fucking stupid.

>>37452099
>They're black only because they are perceived as black.
And you're telling me a trans man, despite being perceived as a man is actually a woman?

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oh, a terf is just a woman who thinks trannies aren't real women? i thought that was just common sense desu

>>37452362
>Lesbians say they don't want penis. Transwomen are offended.
Haha I already said I dont give a shit about that. Not offended. Most lesbians are ugly and fat anyway desu not all but most. Not interested.

Fucking feminists fuck off.

That being said, I kinda agree about trannies. The funny thing is, I wouldn't mind trannies doing what they want in their private life if they A) didn't screech bloody murder every time they were mildly inconvenienced, and B) didn't try to shove their mental illness down our throats. I'd imagine a lot of trannie haters would probably agree with me that they wouldn't mind trannies much if they just shut the fuck up and kept their mental illness under wraps.

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>>37452258
>This is why there's the idea in radfem theory that the left wants women to be public property (via porn) and the right wants women to be private property (via marriage).

You're alright, sis.

>(via porn)
The prevalence and acceptance of porn is completely insane, and this is coming from a dude who has consumed it almost daily from the ages of 10 to 21. Rather than going into porn itself though, what is now scaring me is how much bdsm rapey bullshit is so fucking common in lefty scenes. "It's safe because we understand patriarchy" my fucking arse.

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>>37452369
HAHAHAHA holy shit this is the most pathetic attempt at samefagging ive ever seen. Quantum irony. Holy shit, you are too old for this place, you dont understand it.

>>37452398
>>37452362
That's not me, not sure why they're typing to make it look like me. Maybe they read the wrong response.

>>37452413
>has
I mean had, whoops.

>>37452319
So you're saying exterior appearance determines their gender and not genitals? Wew.

>>37452362

You've never met the Nazi mtfs on this website?

>>37452327

>waahhh i'm a misogynist! I can't handle the truth! shut up women!

>>37452356

>99% of people don't give a fuck what's in your pants.

That's why 'pussy' means coward and women are told we can't be world leaders because we'll nuke the planet when we're on our periods, right? lol

>>37452367

It's pretty bad that happened BUT DOES IT CHANGE HOW YOU WERE RAISED AND PERCEIVED? no? ok.

>>37452372

>stop talking, women! wahhh! Identity is everything!! People can identify however they want

Rachel Dolezal is not black and that anon is still a man.

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>>37452401
Yeah im a tranny and I agree with you about that stuff, we can be really annoying but some of us are chilled out.

>>37452424
It was satirical you autistic faggot, holy shit you're dense. I was agreeing with you.

>>37452413
see this shit

the anti-porn feminists are going to lay down with the christfags, just like they did in the eighties
you can literally turn men into women and expend all of your sex drive on them and these faggots will still have a problem with it

i knew this was coming but i thought i could just wait it out on /r9k/

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>>37452424
>>37452327
god I hate obnoxious trannies

>>37452385
only anime is real

>>37452256
He's not a robot. He has a GF, so I yelled at him to get off my board. I won't pay his tuition now.

>>37452258
>abortion rights aren't women's rights
I want to get off.

>>37452295
>crusty
Hmm, you didn't call me cunt this time.

>bait
Can people not talk?

>>37452356
>people don't care what's in your pants

All of history disagrees with you.

>if you got a race change
Yes, because dying his skin would change everything that happened before him in terms of family, prenatal, wealth, education, socialization, etc. Of course he'd fit right in. Of course the courts would change for him.

If that's the case, why don't more black people do that if they insist racism is so bad? Explain Rachel Dolezal.

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>>37452484
you're pretty fucking delusional

>>37452258
However, Islam wants you to be *actual* property (via being sold for money) so it would be advantageous, if slightly unpalatable, to side with the people who are fighting it.

>>37452468

The person we're discussing has a dick.

>>37452413

>"It's safe because we understand patriarchy" my fucking arse.

Idek what to say about that. I'm glad I'm not a leftist.

>>37452548
>The person we're discussing has a dick.
So do some trans men

>>37452532
clip and save my post and we'll see who's right in five years

>>37452559
A leg-meat sausage is not a penis.

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>>37452474
>"You've never met the Nazi mtfs on this website?"
>Old woman sits down at her PC and reads hyperbole on her favourite terf blogspot that there are nazi trannies on 4chan and just believes it without question because its what she WANTS to believe.

There arent any, we are at odds with pol, pol despise us and we despise pol. I dont fuck with nazis

>>37452490
you're a fucking 40-year-old married woman on a board for 20-something incel men

what the fuck do you know about anything
the things we need to live are so radically different from the things you need to live that we may as well be different species

Fuck you OP. Just because you dislike trannies doesn't mean I don't hate you for being a retarded feminist.

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>>37452541
It's ok, /pol/, I understand you.

>>37452569
Why are you so obsessed with penises

>>37452487
And I hate samefags, especially ones who are so obvious about it.

>>37452541

>implying every feminist, let alone every woman, is okay with the left's defense of islam

Nearly all religions are misogynist. There's no reason to join the right's crusade against islam because the right is ALSO male supremacist. I don't give a fuck what you think about my so called "alliances" because I'm pretty damn sure you're a /pol/lack.

>>37452559

>approximations of dicks are actual dicks

For the record, the person we're discussing STILL HAS A DICK, my point stands, you disingenuous little shit.

>>37452588
>20-something incel men
And yet every thread where age is discussed the majority of posters are under 20

I want the underage faggots to leave.

>>37452640
They had a vagina, too.

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>>37452484
>Tfw the evangelicals are expending and recruiting at a rapid pace
>Tfw polfag nu-nazis are recruiting in large numbers
>Tfw old terfs from the 80s are STILL mad as fuck and gunning for us.
>Tfw they are gonna team up and bodyslam us

We arent even safe on r9k, who here /nervous/

>>37452582

I have literally had a conversation at /lgbt/ with a Christian Nazi mtf. You're ignorant.

>>37452608
Witness here the legendary female strategic ability. "If we don't agree 100% then you're my enemy, even if it ends up making us both lose."

>>37450946
There is no such thing as acting more like a woman or acting less like a woman. You either are a woman or not. Being a woman has nothing to do with behaviour, it's material reality.

A man cannot become a woman

>>37452654

>vaginas are never mentioned in anon's posts
>"t-they had a v-vagina t-too"

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>>37452369
Not forums but Gender Hurts and the Gender Delusion are good.

>>37452398
You say that but the cotton ceiling is very much a thing.

To steal some trans rhetoric, it sounds
like you're uncomfortable with your attraction to "cis" women.

>>37452380
They're not perceived as men.

>>37452413
>porn
Ugh. I watched those Efukt facial abuse videos and wanted to cry. I cannot believe this is feminism. Sex positivity is just an excuse for pretty rich girls to upset daddy.

Ever notice that in porn, the more downtrodden (usually black) women treat it like a job - because that's what it is? It's the white and Asian girls from nice families pretending it's some sort of feminist statement. Must be nice being that sheltered.

>>37452468
Are you a dog? Are your genitals inside your body?

>>37452424
Not samefagging. Although that's rich coming from you.

>>37452474
>never met
I don't browse that much.

>>37452474
I'm talking about the people in your daily life. If you have a penis or a vagina doesn't affect how they treat you, your appearance does.

>>37452657
Do trannies do anything other than cry or get irrationally angry? Isn't this the sign of a degenerate people who haven't developed their own civilization?

>>37452662
I guess we are all Nazis now then. Damn.

I am not a feminist but TERFs are a necessary balance against trannies. Let TERFs go somewhere and don't stop them from saying what they want and trannies disappear. Trannies are special snowflakes with severe, severe autism and they thrive on others validating their mental illness.

>>37452698
Behavior is based in biology.

Just so you guys know TERFs think porn is bad

>>37452707
>They're not perceived as men.
Most of them are. You wouldn't be able to tell their sex unless you look in their pants.

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>>37452657
All the lights in the sky are our enemies.

>>37452751
They're right, there is a shortage of good porn.

>>37452678
>trannies pressure women into sex, tell them to stop talking about abortions, sympathize with men because "muh closeted sister mtfs," murder us
>/pol/lacks take away our rights, pressure us into sex, murder us, laugh when minorities murder us
>islam murders us, takes away our rights

When you're all bad, you're all bad. Why sugarcoat what we're up against? Women lose with all three groups. And we're doing the best right now, with all of you as obnoxious fringe groups.

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>convo gets too logical and irrefutable
>trannies try to shut things down with "stop replying"

every time. "if you can't win silence them"

>>37452784
No they think its damaging to women and want it gone

>>37452657
>implying the christians don't have room for monks and hermits
>implying the nazis don't have uses for autists
/r9k/ is /pol/'s retarded little brother. We pick on you sometimes, but we're here for you :^)

>>37452582
"Old woman" here. And I actually questioned the Nazi mtf statement.

>and I'm a phoneposter
So nothing you said was right.

You're really upset. I've been talking in this thread, but you've just embarassed yourself trying to troll me. I think you need to reflect upon the fact that it was my ideas, not myself, that upset you.

>>37452474
>Rachel Dolezal
She was born with a black brain in a white body

>>37452714

They're going to assume your genitals based on the rest of your body. And, like, not all people with dicks tuck. Genitals ARE a part of appearance.

People in my daily life have absolutely talked about my genitals, anyway.

>>37452805
So they're in favor of 2D? Good taste.

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>>37452818
T-Thanks anon, I would rather be abused by /pol/ than by terfs any day for what its worth.

>>37452805

>mtf try to steer robots against radfems by crying about the porn

dude, porn isn't good for mtfs either. it's not very good for anybody

>>37452707
>the more downtrodden (usually black) women treat it like a job

Those facial abuse videos do a good job of showing that side of things, although in a pretty horrific way. You can see the calculations many of those women are making in the middle of the "scene" about how much their dignity is literally worth.

From the male side I'm going to make what sounds like a crazy statement, but to me porn is a logical outlet for a society that wishes to inflict harm upon women but cannot.

>>37452855

And they say mtfs aren't Nazis...

>>37452868
this same fucking shit happened in the 80s
no one ever learns

>>37452879
>but to me porn is a logical outlet for a society that wishes to inflict harm upon women but cannot.
You're retarded. Porn is a logical outlet for my balls.

>>37452879

>From the male side I'm going to make what sounds like a crazy statement, but to me porn is a logical outlet for a society that wishes to inflict harm upon women but cannot.

and that's pretty much what Dworkin said, and what pornographers have also said.

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>>37452868
>stupid roastie tries to defend hating porn

>>37452714
Are your bits invisible?

>>37452715
Some do talk, but a lot just freak out and scream - and people let them, sunxe apparently everything's a safe space, now.

>>37452787
Yep.

>>37452800
Yep, or outright hostility.
>but we're not male socialised!

>>37452832
Yes, and everything she has experienced is the same as all black people. I cannot believe the transracists who oppress her.

>>37452707
>>37452879

The thing about porn is that it is the final stage of what many perverts and sluts want. Is porn really the problem, or is it the sick society we live in? Porn is absolutely degenerate but the people who take part in it and the people who watch it fuel a sick cycle, a constantly operating machine.

>>37452921

I've been on /d/ plenty of times, that shit is not normal. And /fit/ plenty of times talks about no fap. Porn is clearly destroying and twisting men beyond belief. It's not good for anyone, it's particularly bad for women. That's just the truth.

Anyway, it would be like hating cigarettes, which I don't. But porn is absolutely a conservation between men about how fucked up they are and how much they hate women.

>>37452899
You're mistaken. We've learned, we just want to do it again.

>>37452800
that's because this thread is dumb politics bullshit
>trannies are/aren't women
>nuh uh my definition is different and you're wrong
>wo/men have it hard
>nuh uh, wo/men have it harder
>group A is group B!!
>nuh uh, group A is totes BFFs with group C

none of this will ever be resolved because it's not designed to be, it's just shitty ingroups trying to draft us to fight each other
the only reason I'm here is because I'd prefer to fap to guys in skirts rather than ShrekXRoadhog yaoi or whatever 40-year-old women like

>>37452879
I had to lie down after watching them. I felt so bad for those girls, like I was going to puke. It was like Dworkin's works given life. It was like watching the stuff that inspired Buyer's Market.

>calculations
I almost wish I could be their lawyer and sit on set and look after them.

Like, I understand them. They've done these disgusting things and they're told if they don't do one more they won't get paid. All or nothing. It's sick.

>but cannot
But they do.

>>37452909
>pornographers have said
What's that quote from a pornographer who said that anal porn is for men who hate their wives?

>>37452909
She's pretty damned accurate about that stuff. It's tragic how often she was proven right...

Theleweit is interesting for taking a lot of the words and actions of men at face value in a textual analysis. Particularly soldiers (which is relevant given the it is only a recent phenomenon that we don't consider the entire male population potential or active soldiers).

>>37452905
This is why robots are the footsoldiers of /pol/.

>>37453031
>Porn is clearly destroying and twisting men beyond belief
They're already twisted, porn is just an expression of that.

>>37453031
>women in charge of understanding the male sex drive
We have to bust a nut daily, so we need either a monogamous relationship which we have total control over, or porn (which we have total control over) to guarantee that nut gets busted. After 10 years or so, imagination just doesn't cut it.

>>37452930
>Are your bits invisible?
No, but i wear clothes. And people who want to be perceived as the opposite sex hide them.

I am starting to suspect that Concerned Mom Against Anime Porn is just an RP that someone is doing

>>37453048
>But they do
Well, yes. That's the truth that even as such violence is less sanctioned it is still ever present.

>>37453031
>I've been on /d/ plenty of times, that shit is not normal.
confirmed normalfag

>>37452966
> what sluts want
You really believe that these women all want to be there?

>>37453031
Call me crazy, but I have no issue with /d/.

If someone gets off to an inflated girl...okay. Whatever. If someone gets off to real images of human suffering? That's a problem.

>>37453047
>because I'm an apolitical lump who doesn't respond to new information, everyone else is!

>>37453081
>We have to bust a nut daily

Dude, no we don't. This is exactly the kind of language that makes mens orgasms the problem of everyone but men, for which the logical end result is sex slavery.

I mean in that equation 2d porn is the lesser evil, but men have gone without busting a nut for years without dying of sudden nut disease.

#nametheproblem

>>37453193
"women"

this is my post, I made it

>>37453081

Imagination works for me all the time. I don't know why men say this. You can't be incapable of fantasies.

>>37453048

I know the quote you mean, but I can't find it with google lol

>>37453056
>This is why robots are the footsoldiers of /pol/.

Yep.

It's about /pol/ saying every robot will be given a wife/gf too, I think.

>>37453061

I don't think men are inherently sexually damaged. They start looking at porn when they're like 9, of course they're fucked up.

>>37450955
As if you had any intellect to validate.

You people are nothing more than a bunch old, reactionary cunts who still get pissy over things like people enjoying pornography. This isn't the 70s/80s anymore, most people don't really remember you, and when they do, they really only remember the bra burning stereotype rather than your actual ideas.

Face it hon, the cotton ceiling got pierced a long time ago.

>>37453176

>You really believe that these women all want to be there?

A large amount of them seem to, yes. Some women in their own ways can be just as sexually degenerate as men. The type of women that go into porn are sexually promiscuous and edgy. But I agree with the other person and also with you. /d/ is the product of man-children with sick minds and too much time on their hands, but it also allows them to channel their depravity into something completely fictional.

>>37453177
>complain about men being men
>men take 'mones to not be men
>complain about that

fuck yourself

>>37449647
>trannies in america are treated like jews in nazi germany
they're being given their own country in the middle east?

>>37453176
>If someone gets off to real images of human suffering?

They also have melting girls over there. There's plenty of human suffering on /d/.

>>37453236
there is no way this post is earnest
>35 people in the thread

>>37453177
I like you.

>>37453061
I don't buy that.

>>37453056
Never heard of the second author. Noted.

>>37453091
2D is the lesser of two evils.

>why is every post assumed to be me

>>37453177
Sex slavery is the lesser evil to me not busting a nut, t b h.

>>37453239

See, you think a man going on hormones means he has no destructive sex drive. Which is not true.

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>>37453239
How about you stop acting like fucking babies?

>>37453232
>pissy over things like people enjoying pornography
Dropped. Worshipping the opiate of the masses is not an intellectual stance.

>>37453266

I meant every word I said. My posts are >>37452729, >>37452966 and >>37453236

>>37453224
>I don't think men are inherently sexually damaged. They start looking at porn when they're like 9, of course they're fucked up.
Then how come men went around raping everyone since the beginning of time, long before porn was invented?

>>37453300

This is why so many women say they hate men, you know.

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>>37453239
>feminists say you're oppressing women
>literally stop fucking women, dress up like anime girls, and fuck each other instead
>you're still oppressing women

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa

>>37453301
doesn't estrogen destroy mens sex drive? Thats why they give it to child predators sometimes.

>>37453322
Who cares, men are capable of more violence than women due to biology, so ultimately we'll always be the ones in charge. Might makes right.

>>37453321

Because religion.

>>37453301
It literally chemically castrates them, what the fuck are you on about? The kind of "men" that go on hormones usually didn't have a "destructive" sex drive to begin with.

>>37453239

I do agree with them though. When it comes to porn and our own degeneracy, men really do need to 'man up' in the sense of owning up to our own depravity and fixing it. The world is one big circle of trash when it comes to sociopolitical issues.

>>37453314
?
I never claimed enjoyment of porn was "intellectual", I just think it's laughable that you people get into a fucking tizzy over it.

>>37453328

>pressuring women to like dick is "literally stop fucking women, dress up like anime girls, and fuck each other instead"

Why must mtfs lie?

>>37453333

Mtfs still rape women.

>>37453341

That's another reason why so many women hate men. Literally invented modern religion and philosophy, but when it comes to us women, your moral logic is "I'm bigger than you, so I'm in charge." Men are fake.

>>37453347
wut

*tips fedora*

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>>37453328
>"you're making women uncomfortable"
>stop going to the internet except for an all-male incel board on a mostly-male anime forum
>they come there and start bitching at you again

>>37453265
Cartoons don't real.

>>37453232
>you're dumb, and I'm going to prove it through appeals to popularity and rape imagery

2nd wave ideas are only unpopular on Tumblr. Real politics is another matter.

>>37453236
>seem to
They're getting paid.

>>37453255
I wish.

>>37453278
>second author
I mispelled his name. Read the article before reading the book and see if it interests you, because otherwise it is around 1000 pages of deep and meandering textual analysis, historical references and psychological discourse.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/06/21/books/the-women-they-feared.html

Thanks.

>>37453300
Avoiding the ban on t b h is a bannable offence.

>>37453370

>believing the mtfs don't have viable sperm or a sex drive meme

It's like you don't know any mtfs at all!

>>37453389
>Men are fake.
Keep cryin' bitch nigga