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how do you guys visualize the perfect future?

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how would things be and stuff like that...just curious about your perspective.
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Roads without traffic
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>>37437649
Living in washington state with my oneitis who just broke up with me. Smoking lots of weed and doing creative stuff together and being happy. together.
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>>37437649
>automation and socialism eliminates need for work
>suicides are assisted
>genetic manipulation cures physical, mental ,and personality defects that make life hard for people
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pic is a good depiction
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>>37437649
I want the future to be cyberpunk a comfy hellish dystopia
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>>37437747
neat
>>37437812
and how could you live comfy in a hellish dystopia? like you work as a soldier or some shit like that?
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>>37437717
you misspelled capitalism anon
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>>37438048
capitalism does not eliminate the need to work
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>>37437649
I cannot conceptualize a future where anything has improved. I'm not even depressed. It's just that there doesn't appear to be a realistic path to conditions improving in the western world. Our infection with post-modernism would be fatal all on its own, but in addition to that we face massive and unending invasion by hostile foreigners with no credible resistance in sight.

We will be replaced in our own countries and our countrymen will rejoice because of it.

I had hopes that nationalist sentiments would bring about policies that might stem the tide, but it looks like the media has successfully fractured support for such. I'm pretty confident this was the last opportunity to change our fate and it seems to have slipped from our grasp.

The decline will be slow. It'll take decades perhaps, but eventually the western world will succumb. We'll compromise our values one by one, make concessions to the post-modernists, appease the invaders, and eventually everything that has fueled the enlightenment, the ideas that brought about the greatest increase in human well-being and knowledge in all recorded history, will be swept away.

And people will call it progress.
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>>37437974
Scraping by in a minimum wage position like I do now but with more technology
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vr has been perfected and I spend all day living whatever life I want to in whatever world I want to
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>>37437812

We already live in a comfy hellish dystopia; it's just less aesthetically pleasing.


>>37438048

I get really sick of people getting bogged down in this retarded, vague economic "debate" about which antiquated distribution system based on labor will be used in some theoretical post-scarcity, zero-marginal cost societies.

I don't know if post-scarcity "capitalism" would be superior to post-scarcity "socialism", but I do know that post-scarcity anything is better to the modern global capitalist paradigm we're experiencing right now.
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>>37438172
even if it such a slow and tragic demise, there's a little thing you are forgetting, that you are not alone.
we will all go together when we go, so how about we grab some popcorn and simply chillax.
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>>37438172

I can't imagine the world being better in any way in the future either, anon, but for entirely different reasons.

For one, I think climate change is perfectly real, and a result of human activity at some level (though historical climate data is minuscule at best, and thus all assertions speculative to some degree).

This will disrupt things to an incredible amount-and there is literally nothing that can be done about it. Everyone on the planet who lives in an industrialized nation would have to essentially assume a brand new lifestyle. The military forces of world powers would have to come to a near stand-still for decades. Meat production would have to drastically decrease.Global trade would have to be slowed or conducted using nuclear-powered boats. Essentially, globalism would have to end.

Further, the power of a surveillance state to control its population is already evident, and that will increase indefinitely. I cannot see any situation where a massive political movement would create a climate where this wasn't the case, in ANY part of the world. Let's assume climate change is overblown, and nothing substantial occurs in the moderate future (IE: our lifetimes) What do we get? Instead of a violent, balkanized series of colonies competing for resources, you'll get big monolithic megalopolises that are dominated entirely by the ideology of whatever party happens to be in vogue at the time. Dissent will be fundamentally impossible.
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>I would want religion to be included back into society, so people can retain morality.
>Make certain laws on AI and technology so they can't get too advanced.
>Limit governmental interference with personal lives.
>Push freedom and democracy across the world, but not with military force.
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>>37438137
socialism mandates the need to work.
you need
to think
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>>37438573
some people will still work to create art and stuff. A lot of people won't though

How would capitalism help post scarcity?
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>>37437649
More social isolation along the populace, jobs will evaporate due to a combination of automation and fall in gradual birthrate from net emigrant countries. The rest of the first world starts looking a lot more like Japan. Net economic growth will shrink, but cities would still probably still benefit for some time. Boomers will be the last generation to have any sort of public retirement savings support. Due to rising costs no big infrastructure project will ever be adopted on a wide scale ever again, including private spaceflight and vactrains.
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>>37438517

Those are just some common, general scenarios that come to mind.

Let's not forget that drug-resistant pathogens will continue to evolve and outpace treatment development. Let's not forget that the population will continue to grow, and that earth does not have an infinite carrying capacity. Let's not forget that even if the Earth can technically support however billions of people, those 30 billion people CANNOT live lives as materially rich as anyone in the US, Europe or Japan today. Let's not forget that the passage of global power from West to East will be marked by a period of deep and tense proxy conflicts that exacerbate and exacerbated by any of the things I just listed.

Also, all of the transhumanist/singularity rapture fantasies are almost certainly hundreds of years away and underestimate the complexity of biological systems DRAMATICALLY.

Of course, assuming a superintelligence IS created sometime this century, and we are there to experience it, there is nothing that can be reasonably done to bend that AI to the will of humanity. It's an existential gamble. If it is possible to bend the AI to the will of humanity, it'll be done to serve the interests of a tiny group of people, likely to your detriment.

There is simply such a low possibility of the future being better than, say, the late 90s in America and Europe, that no one should be expecting it.
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>>37438517
this is the correct answer, not muh immigration muh christian values
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>>37438745
>Also, all of the transhumanist/singularity rapture fantasies are almost certainly hundreds of years away and underestimate the complexity of biological systems DRAMATICALLY.
kinda reminded of this.
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Afterlife is real through an option to live in cyberspace. Crime rate drastically low. There is little to no government, basically an ideal ancap society.
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>>37437649
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>>37437649
A fulfilling life of hard work in a National Socialist state while we laugh at the nogs in the nature preserve (Afrika)
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>>37437649
One which I am dead
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my husbandu and i own several hundred acres of off the grid arable land in montana, in a secluded meadow of which we have built our small cottage, where i play my harp and bake bread and tend to our many small blond children all day. we grow all of our own food and raise chickens goats and ducks. there is a small river that runs through that somehow always has big, delicious salmon.
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>>37437649
Argentinean here
The perfect future is having a land, a house and a family

All in some place really comfy away from people
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>Individuality destroyed
>Material reality destroyed
>Separation of every kind destroyed
>One single perfect entity
>Does nothing, meditates in infinite bliss for the rest of eternity

Don't you see this is the only way?
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>>37439645
>living in a landlocked state
>having a permanent address
It's as if you actually like being depressed.
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>>37437649
sexbot, NEETbux and NEETcube
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>>37440697

i'd be really into the /sailboat/ lifestyle if i didn't want kids so badly desu, i've always been more of an ocean person, but the coastal states are just not salvageable at this point and toddlers fall off of boats too easily

i think it's mostly the loneliness that's making me depressed, i don't think being a friendless seaneet would be much better, but maybe

anyways good luck anon
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>>37437649
I get to live with my cute Norwegian wife and we have a cozy cottage thing and a cow and we will both have successful careers and tons of money so we can travel wherever we want to. Also my parents like me and I have a small and nice circle of friends
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>get a gf that actually likes me within the next year
>graduate uni
>have a 100k+ salary soontm
>have kids and they don't hate me
>be super old thinking about how much my life sucked until after college
>die
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Freedom to not sell hours of your life for bucks.

Then again, it's possible at the individual level but not as a society. So many control hungry people out there for that.

I hope one day i get enough money, a mindset and a body that can bring me as close as possible to true freedom. At least it's what makes me try atm
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I guess I'll just post a little of my sci-fi film I'm writing

>Space Colonization & AI Superintellegence Race leads to Cold War
>Some Einstein level autist kid manages to access research and works on a prototype himself
>He has a breakdown and unleashes the AI with no restrictions
>Ends up destroying a good deal of civilization
>Humanity rebuilds but is forever skewed.
>Many different factions but the major super powers are a Communist Transhumanist Cyborgs and a highly competitive Capitalist Eugenicist Society

The story starts there and I skipped over a lot but basically humans have to ask the question of what it means to be human in the face of evolution. Many different paths live before them like space travel, simulated realities, and merging with AI to become immortal. But that is just the tip of the iceberg as humans play a very small story in the scale of the multiverse and lengths of time further than the big bang and heat death.

It should be done in a couple years if anyone is interested it's called the Isolation Chamber Saga.
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>>37437649
Is that code lyoko
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>>37437649
Finally a chance to use this image AND it's relevant.
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