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>Massage parlor that I went to got busted by the cops while

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>Massage parlor that I went to got busted by the cops while I was inside

Fuck you guys, I thought it was foolproof
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>>37390192
Did you get arrested?
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>>37390239

Yes,and now my pic will be online, on the local newspaper, and billboard
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>>37390192
wait anon what did you get charged with?

also this is why i'm going to thailand. i already went to tijuana and it was a fuckin blast.
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>>37390328
Lol, a billboard. Fucking smooth. Are you married? Are you in the closet? Think about how bad it is really. No kids, animals etc then just roll with it.
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>>37390328
Are you now a sex offender? Do you have to go around telling people when you move to a new neighborhood?
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>>37390192
>Work as a massage therapist in a pediatric clinic
>Pray nobody like OP every comes in

Sorry you didn't have a happy ending though.
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>>37391205
>pediatric clinic
Anon, why don't you take a seat?
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>>37391240
I get paid enough to comfortably relax in my free time so I'm fine with having to deal with people who think that desu.
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>Going to AMPs
Karma was kinda on you OP for visiting modern houses of slavery

Should'a seen a free-range independent escort

Out of curiosity though, how exactly did your arrest go down?
Did you get to keep your cell phone/wallet?
Did you have to post bail? Could you pay with your CC?
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Being busted with a whore doesn't have the same punishment as cheese pizza.

Rrrright?
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>>37390811
Well he has a criminal record now which certainly will fuck him over for any job that runs a background check, and it's public so anybody googling his name will see that he was arrested for it
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>>37391450
Not at all. CP is almost always a guaranteed prison sentence of years. Fucking whores is a lot less severe but depends on how much the judge wants to rape you
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>>37390192
get a lawyer, you were there for a massage and thats all you were getting and thats all you thought they were providing.
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>>37390328
>billboard
what kind of ridiculous fucking justice system allows the police to post peoples faces on a billboard just because they went to get a handjob

>b-but muh sex slavery
And the police don't raid these places more often, why? They allow new brothels to open periodically even though they're flagrantly obvious and only actually prosecute every couple of months. The police don't care, they basically tacitly allow them to exist and only occasionally bust them. They're not in the interest of preventing sex slavery, just occasionally reaping some money from suckers and the PR victory of "halting crime"
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greentext the whole thing man
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>>37391529
>what kind of ridiculous fucking justice system allows the police to post peoples faces on a billboard just because they went to get a handjob

Do you live in the US? They don't care here if you've been busted. They want the world to Know you're a perv
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>>37391631

yeah, fucking greentext this.
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>>37390192
what state are you located in?
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>>37391529
>implying it's morally wrong to expose morally bankrupt people
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>>37390328
The cities I know with AMPs are usually big city ones, like Houston or Dallas or whatever. Cities that big won't care who you are, you won't get your name in the paper, you probably won't even be charged in the end.

If it's a smaller town, though, you're fucked.
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>>37392834
Are you a Texasbro?

You're mega blessed to be a Johnfag in the DFW area if so.
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>>37392529
How is it morally bankrupt to want sex?
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>>37390328
>on the local newspaper, and billboard
damn, i guess you are in burgerland? The land of the free, my ass.
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>>37392939
It's morally bankrupt to create a market which requires women to give up their virtue to satisfy a pervert's carnal desires simply because he himself can't find a willing partner
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>>37393078
It's morally bankrupt to create a society where millions of men can't find a partner, then shame and punish them for trying to pay for it.
You probably only find soliciting prostitutes morally bankrupt because you think unattractive men should need to marry and offer their entire salaries to women in order to get sex instead of paying a smaller fee. You're either a selfish cunt or a pathetic white knight.
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>>37393078
"Halt, Knave!"
(You)
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>>37393225
>It's morally bankrupt to create a society where millions of men can't find a partner
It's not. It's evolution in work. Why should men with shit genetics pollute the gene pool further? It's morally righteous to let you die out for the benefit of humanity as a whole.

>then shame and punish them for trying to pay for it
Because it IS shameful and your shame creates a disgusting market which drags others into it.

>you think unattractive men should need to marry
No I think that men with shitty genetics should die out as per the evolutionary imperative.

>>37393309
Exactly how am I defending women per se?
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>>37392883
Yes I am indeed, but not in either of those cities.

OP's probably bullshitting it though.
> large cities, no one cares so stop worrying
> small cities, probably doesn't have one and would be an obvious target for overzealous law enforcement
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>>37390192
>>37390328
You should have told the cops you thought it was a parlor for literal massages.
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>>37391450
haha no
t.got arrested for cp (was pretty tame)
got 5 years and not raped(thankfully)in prison
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>>37393473
What a shame. You should have been.
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>>37393353
Why do you white knight assholes assume that humans benefit from putting all of the selection pressure on men, with none of it on women? Do you actually believe females have unquestionably perfect judgment? And genes aren't even close to being the only factor that determines physical and mental quality of an individual. How many men do you suppose are ruined by incompetent single mothers that don't know how to raise kids?
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>>37393473
Please elaborate, I'm deeply intrigued.
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>>37390938
>*knock knock*
Yeah?
>Hi I'm Anon and I should let you know that I'm a sex offender because I let some chink suck my dick on Raid Day
Did you cum in her mouth?
>Fuck yeah
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>>37393510
>you white knight
Again; how am I white knighting?

>Do you actually believe females have unquestionably perfect judgment?
Both men and women engage in partner selection.

>And genes aren't even close to being the only factor that determines physical and mental quality of an individual.
They are the most important factor. Are you going to try and argue environment is an important factor too? Look at how bitter you are. Any environment containing you would be toxic.

>How many men do you suppose are ruined by incompetent single mothers that don't know how to raise kids?
Probably not that many once you remove spics and niggers from the equation. You just use your upbringing as an excuse for your lifestyle, personality and general lack of achievements as an adult. You could be a worthy person and overcome your environment but you choose not to because you're genetic garbage. The only thing that can't be changed is genetics. Yours are not worth breeding with.
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>>37393473
What sort of cp did you have
Because that could mean anything from baby rape to some high school sluts nudes
How'd you get caught?
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>>37393473
you went to prison on a CP related charge and didnt get raped?
what fucking state were you in?
thats like prison 101
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>>37393078
>requires women to give up their virtue
*tips fedora*
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>>37393353
If women want to offer sex for money that's their decision, don't try to impose your personal morals on women.
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>>37393730
>Implying not being a slut isn't a virtue
Isn't this what you losers are always kicking and screaming about? That women are sluts who will fuck everyone except you? And that you want to have a pure, virginal girlfriend to lose your own virginity to?

But when it's used against you you pretend it isn't true.

>>37393763
Women wouldn't have anyone to offer sex for money to if loser males accepted reality
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>>37393473
I'm surprised they let you have internet after getting out
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>>37393620
>Are you going to try and argue environment is an important factor too
Yes. Childhood/adolescent lifestyle and environment are make or break for your chances of success in life as an adult. You can't just overcome the damage caused by the epidemic of neglectful mothers.
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>>37393795
How about fuck you and fuck humanity
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>>37393795
It's a market. Capitalism. Supply and demand. If you don't believe in that then you can fuck off, you don't get to impose your personal morals on everyone else. Faggot.
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>>37393829
>Yes. Childhood/adolescent lifestyle and environment are make or break for your chances of success in life as an adult
>This is what losers blame their failures on
You know people who have shitty childhoods aren't doomed to failure right? It's all about personal integrity and motivation to become a good person.

>You can't just overcome the damage caused by the epidemic of neglectful mothers.
No. YOU can't overcome it. Because you're a weak, genetically inferior person.

>>37393835
Humanity keeps you alive. Humanity has given you the ability to be a worthless piece of shit with internet access. Grow up.

>>37393855
Talking about the mechanics of why it happens is not an argument to morality genius. Try harder next time.
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>>37393473
You're lucky as fuck, prisoners hate people who fuck kids.
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>>37393884
Again, your personal morality is irrelevant to this conversation. I don't give a shit about your personal morals.
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>>37393795
>if loser males accepted reality
The reality is that women are offering sex for money. We didn't them force them into this, they made a conscious decision on their own to engage in the practice. Your argument is flimsy as hell.
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>>37393529
>>37393636
it was pics of little girls feet covered in cum
they even had socks and didn't show face
>how did you get caught?
i think someone ratted on me or i got fbi'd
because just one day they show up with an order to check my house and they confiscated my pc and it had those pics in it
>>37393719
never talked about that and i was calm and stupid prison inmates have a weird sense of justice and are fucked up in the head also i hanged out with a lot of christians i rather not tell the state
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>>37393987
well in NJ we wouldve run a train on that ass

jk love ya smooches
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>>37393891
makes me wonder what Jared Fogle will look like/be like after his 14 or whatever year prison sentence
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>>37393078
>women
>virtue
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>>37393987
>it was pics of little girls feet covered in cum
You can't possibly be serious, five years for that? Did you post them on jewbook or something? Who would rat on you anyways, it's not like you talked to people about it did you? Are you mentally impaired anon? I'm bewildered.
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>>37393987
>people like this arent executed
This is hell
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Man I go to massage parlors all the time, I worry that this could happen to me.
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>>37394118
>killing someone who faps to little girls feet
i bet you think joining the army is a good thing
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>>37394096
i had a sekrit club and we shared photos of that shit.
and those pics where the ones more explicit they found anything else was just pics that those guys send me apparently the feet covered in cum where from the guy who got bsted and it was his sister.
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>>37394238

You willingly and persistently chose to collect images of innocent children being abused so you could satiate your perverse sexual desires, and you honestly done think you should have at the very least been beaten severely for this while serving your well deserved time in prison?
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>>37394279
Not him but a beating isn't part of a prison sentence you fucking retard. He got sentenced to prison time, he didn't get sentenced to be raped and beaten. Fuck off already.
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>>37393912
Then by your logic your personal morals are irrelevant to. But morality isn't subjective so it's a moot argument on your behalf.

>>37393933
>The reality is that women are offering sex for money.
Because a market is created by perverted men. And no mentally healthy woman willfully enters into prostitution. You're basically exploiting the mentally ill for your own personal satisfaction.

>conscious decision on their own to engage in the practice
You're acting like making a conscious decision justifies exploitation. If I put a gun in your hand and force you to choose which of your parents to kill it doesn't absolve me of guilt nor does it impart guilt upon you if I've forced you into it.

>Your argument is flimsy as hell
The irony. It's not a flimsy argument, it's morally justified. You just refuse to see it because to agree with me means accepting that you're genetic garbage supporting or even engaging in morally unjustified acts.

>>37394092
>Heh.... fukn women amirite lol xDD
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>>37394310
>But morality isn't subjective
lol
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>>37390567
Hong Kong eh
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>>37394310
>You're acting like making a conscious decision justifies exploitation
No one is putting a gun to their head you fucking dumbass. They could have any other job in the world but they chose prostitution. That's on them and no one else.
And I am not obligated to follow your subjective morals.
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>>37393987
What the fuck anon
Some little girls were abused and you got off to it?
Maybe if it was just the feet, but in order to take the photo some pervert would have jacked off in front of her.
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>>37394310
>And no mentally healthy woman willfully enters into prostitution
Plenty do, because they know they can make a lot of money. It isn't your place to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her body. You don't own them.
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>>37394279
okay i'll bite
>people die in the making of movies
you still watch them
>gore is posted
hah rekt
>cp is mentioned
omg ur the worst kill urself scum
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>>37394395
Gore isn't considered a commodity in the same way porn is. In order to do porn consent is required. How would you like it if I tied you up, took photos of your ass against your will, and then spread them around the internet so people could jack off to them
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>m-muh morals
When did so many fucking moralfags start posting here? You should all kill yourselves.
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>>37394359
>some people die in china to make your fucking shoes/tv/pc
what the fuck anon you are still using them some people where enslaved and you still use shoes?
maybe you just see tv but in order to make that a lot of children worked extra hours without paying.
what im trying to say is the world is a bad place and some people get abused or even killed you can't do shit about it
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>>37394326
Of course, this is 4chan. Everyone has to be an edgy little contrarian but mentally healthy, fulfilled normal people can all agree that killing is wrong, raping is wrong, child abuse is wrong.

This is all based on moral arguments. Objective moral judgement shared by the whole.

>>37394355
>No one is putting a gun to their head you fucking dumbass
So you're arguing that women are willingly choosing prostitution as a career path because they like the job, the pay, the lack of benefits, the lack of insurance, the risk of STDs, the risk of getting assaulted, the risk of getting killed, the risk of getting pregnant, the stigmatization of them by their family, friends and peers, etc. etc.

You're being intellectually dishonest.

>They could have any other job in the world but they chose prostitution
Despite the fact that I've already demonstrated that you're wrong let's assume I hadn't. The ability to choose prostitution could not exist but for men demanding it. This is true for any market. The consumer is to blame.

>And I am not obligated to follow your subjective morals.
But you are because in every decent country it's illegal because the people have decreed it to be an immoral act to solicit sex.

>>37394382
Cite statistics supporting your position or I'm going to have to invoke Hitchen's razor.

>It isn't your place to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her body
Oh yes, the faux-feminist argument. How dishonest of you. But unfortunately it fails because I'm telling men not to create demand. I'm not telling women to do or not do anything.

>>37394430
He's an edgy contrarian who doesn't want to concede his position. He's going to act like he doesn't care or will say something stupid like "I wouldn't be in that position to begin with."
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>>37394492
>Oh yes, the faux-feminist argument.
YOU are a feminist. You're sitting here screeching about how horrible things are for women and how its all mens fault. Go.fuck yourself.
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>>37390938
they dont actually do that, thats just in movies to scare pedos or some shit

that would highly illegal, defamatory and humiliating, and probably dangerous
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>>37394492
You are a self righteous failed normalfag, fuck off back to whatever shithole you crawled out of.
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>>37394492
>So you're arguing that women are willingly choosing prostitution as a career path
Yes, if that's the only skill set they have then that's the only work they can do. Their fault for not learning a trade or going to school.
Or maybe they just like the money. High class escorts who fuck businessmen and shit make a lot of money.
It's funny that you just absolve women of any blame. You seem to think they have no self-awareness.
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>>37394517
>screeching about how horrible things are for women
Not once have I done this. Stop strawmanning my position because you don't have a valid argument.

> its all mens fault
Are you denying the fact that a market won't exist if there isn't demand for it? Men are stronger than women so it is important they exercise proper decorum so as not to lead to the degeneration of society. Women will naturally follow. This goes back to my argument that the men supporting and engaging in prostitution are weak, immoral people and likely to be genetic garbage who should be left to die out as per the evolutionary imperative.

>>37394529
>self righteous
Society agrees with me which is why prostitution is criminalised.

>fuck off back to whatever shithole you crawled out of.
So.... 4chan? At least you accurately described it as a shithole
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>>37394310
holy shit you are one of those people that can NEVER be wrong

just stop bullshitting already
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>>37394430
>gore actually kills people
>most cp i saw/mentioned is very tame
now you're going to tell me that sexual abuse is worse than death and yet you tell suicidal people atleast you're alive xxdd
besides i didn't even ucking have touched a kid
>>37394430
>gore isn't considered a commodity like porn
your fucking point?
both gore and cp are done without consent and people fap to gore too
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>>37394594
>Men are stronger than women so it is important they exercise proper decorum so as not to lead to the degeneration of society.
Oh god, you're one of those people. Kek.
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>>37394621
He's obviously a /pol/fag who migrated here from Reddit during the election season.
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>>37394623
No but you were complicit in someone elses sexual abuse of their own sister

>>37394594
>society agrees with me which is why prostitution is criminalised
>bro the law always matches up with what society deems is correct
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>>37394492
Picking your argument apart point by point is a pain in the ass on a phone, but I would just like to point out the harms such as

>>the lack of benefits, the lack of insurance, the risk of STDs, the risk of getting assaulted, the risk of getting killed, the risk of getting pregnant, the stigmatization of them by their family, friends and peers, etc. etc

would be greatly lessened if moral fags such as yourself stepped aside and allowed the sex trade to be legitimized and regulated. Dick clowns like you are the reason shit's like the wild west.

If someone willingly wants to sell puss for cash, its only the business of the hooker and the john. Not yours, pal. Don't like it? Don't hire a prostitute.
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>>37394472
>pedo tries to justify child trafficking

Really anon? Shoes? youre a freak
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>>37394667
He's just going to say
>b-but it IS my business because morals :(
Don't waste your time.
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>>37394586
>Yes, if that's the only skill set they have then that's the only work they can do
Don't you sit around here bitching that women have life on easy mode and can literally do nothing yet attract orbiters (such as yourself) who will support her? She doesn't need to offer sex and those who do are mentally unwell, likely having been abused by a male when younger.

>High class escorts who fuck businessmen and shit make a lot of money.
Money is not justification for engaging in prostitution and there would be no money to be made if sad men didn't pay them. You people keep going back to MUH WOMEN THO yet you conveniently ignore that there is no market nor money to be made if men don't participate. Men are the root cause of the problem in this situation.

>>37394621
>holy shit you are one of those people that can NEVER be wrong
It's a compliment that you think my position is so strong that I can never be wrong but everyone is fallible anon. Just not on this particular position.

>>37394625
So you are out of arguments are have instead resorted to conjuring up an assumed identity of me which is likely incorrect. It'd be polite to just admit you're wrong anon.

>>37394667
Or I could stand against the legalisation of prostitution, advocate for greater enforcement of penalties for those who shirk the law, help avoid all those risks AND avoid the moral cesspit that is prostitution. Much better solution.

>If someone willingly wants to sell puss for cash, its only the business of the hooker and the john. Not yours, pal. Don't like it? Don't hire a prostitute.
That's not how society works. Sorry.
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>>37394666
>technically you are in complicity with the genocide because you benefited from it
>you are also a killer because what you use in your daily life has killed someone
>you have fapped to porn then you abused those poor girls too because no one sane would fucking do porn
hah i would like to know your opinion on loli i bet you can find something bad about it
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>>37394718
I'm not wrong. You're just one of those people who thinks all women should adhere to his personal image of what they should be like. It's pathetic really.
Also
>have instead resorted to conjuring up an assumed identity of me
You are literally doing the same thing
>Don't you sit around here bitching that women have life on easy mode and can literally do nothing yet attract orbiters
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>>37394718
What exactly is your problem? how does prostitution harm society?

How would a legal brothel like for instance the Bunny ranch, Harm the community or society?
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>>37394801
Because undesirable men would get to have sex, and that makes him buttblasted for some reason.
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>>37394790
Nah I don't give a shit about loli
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>>37394672
i don't give a shit and im not justifying it
but it's a fact that kids work in chinese factories
>giving a shit makes you a holy saviour
yet here you are whike millions of kids are suffering i bet you wouldn't do anything if a kid were in danger in front of you
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>>37394718

>>Or I could stand against the legalisation of prostitution, advocate for greater enforcement of penalties for those who shirk the law, help avoid all those risks AND avoid the moral cesspit that is prostitution. Much better solution

He seriously thinks harsh punishments cold stop crime.

Thats why nobody murders or abuses drugs or steals or beats their kids, right?

Anti-prostitute laws hurt the girls the most. They do not protect them.
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Look at it from the perspective of the prostitute
>work as a prostitute
>some asshole wants to ban my job and source of income because of his personal moralfaggotry
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>>37391508
>go to court
>Judge is a tall thicc MILF
>I'm a scrawny manlet
>she wants to rape me very much
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>>37394843
Just stop, dont even try to bullshit me

Not all shoes are made by slave children, and if they were, you wouldnt know. Its also not a reasonable comparison to children working in porn. That should be obvious, but you ARE using that as means to justify watching cp
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>>37394799
>who thinks all women
Again, you keep shifting blame off of yourself. I have said nothing about women and their role, merely that they cannot actively participate in prostitution if there is not a market created by men.

>You are literally doing the same thing
The only thing I assume about you is that you support prostitution because you're actively arguing in favour of it.

>>37394801
It encourages degenerate lifestyles and behaviours, destroys moral integrity of a community, encourages cheating, leads to exploitative situations, it is socially and mentally damaging to both parties (women being stigmatized and outcast in conjunction with the pre-existing mental deficiencies, men becoming increasingly perverted, encouraging them viewing women as objects instead of people, social ostracization when found out) etc.

>>37394877
>He seriously thinks harsh punishments cold stop crime.
They can

>Thats why nobody murders or abuses drugs or steals or beats their kids, right?
The punishments aren't severe enough, are a drain on society and take decades to enact.

>They do not protect them.
I don't care. I've never argued for the protection of prostitutes. I've argued for the protection of society as a whole.
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>>37394897
b-but you're losing your virtue m'lady!!
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>>37394897
this you just don't understand or you come from a rich family dude some people have to do what they have to do to get money.some of them like it some of them don't but what are you gonna do ? give money to everyone?
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>>37394897
Too bad. Get a real job, get married or starve.
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>>37394964
Let them die out as nature intended. Read some Malthus.
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>>37394929
Your entire justification for being against prostitution is that you don't want ugly men having sex. You are so fucking triggered over the idea of an imperfect man getting some pussy. Fuck off already.
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>>37394910
>he/she thinks the world is colors and rainbows everywhere
>he/she thinks cp is a bussines
most cp nowadays is just guys sharing stuff online without payment
kids probably don't even know someone is taking a pic or video
>if they do you wouldn't know too
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>>37395006
>I don't have an argument so I'm going to strawman you
It doesn't matter if you fuck prostitutes, you're going to die out anyway. The problem is it's morally wrong.
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>>37394929
Those complains all come down to individual faults or vague nonsense. "Degenerate" is a meaningless buzzword. Whether or not a man cheats on his significant other is a fault with him as an individual. It's true that it can lead to exploitative situations. However in these cases we make laws that punish the exploiters. We shouldn't just ban something because someone might do it the wrong way. Whether or not it is socially damaging to either party is irrelevant. It's their choice to make, not yours. You act as if you're some wise teacher who needs to guide us like childeren. Well we're not talking about childeren, we're talking about adults. Adults who have the right to decide how they spend their time, not you.

You want an authoritarian society where you get to decide how people spend their time according to what your personal definition of virtue is.
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>>37394929
Prostitutes 99% of the time are drug addicts/stupid. They are sexual objects, that is all they can offer. Should we ban strip clubs too then? Should we ban gambling and alcohol because it encourages degernate lifestyle and is arguably more dangerous for the community?

Dont you understand that every man needs a crutch?
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>>37395045
>The problem is it's morally wrong.
I don't care.
>>37395052
"degeneracy" is /pol/'s version of "misogyny."
Its a word that doesn't actually mean anything, they just spout it at things that trigger them.
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>>37395045
>problem
but what's the solution ?
all people are immoral in their lives at least just once
even your family just stop dude
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>>37395027
They should have kept you in Jail. Maybe I should get the FBI to check up on your home again
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>>37395052
>You act as if you're some wise teacher who needs to guide us like childeren.
Read his posts dude, he unironically believes he's exactly that.. >>37394594
>Men are stronger than women so it is important they exercise proper decorum so as not to lead to the degeneration of society. Women will naturally follow.
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>>37394929

>He seriously thinks harsh punishments cold stop crime.
>They can
Show me a single, solitary instance, in all of fucking human history, that this was the case.

>Thats why nobody murders or abuses drugs or steals or beats their kids, right?
>>The punishments aren't severe enough, are a drain on society and take decades to enact.
Grandiose statement with absolutely no backing. Next.

>They do not protect them.
>I don't care. I've never argued for the protection of prostitutes. I've argued for the protection of society as a whole.

Oh, choke on it. Society does not need to be protected from some guy paying for fug. Society does need to be protected from an industry that produces a gaggle of exploited, abused, alone women trapped in a hell that they cannot ask for help out of because they are too scared of prosecution. Society needs to be protected from poverty (and sex fucking sells, dude). Citizens need support at work. Society needs to be protected from industries that basically have carte blanche to exploit its workers.
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>>37395130
>Show me a single, solitary instance, in all of fucking human history, that this was the case.

Not defending that guy but I must point out: Vlad the Impaler had a crime free society because you would get Impaled for doing ANY crime
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>>37395052
>I don't like the word degenerate so your argument is wrong
The irony.

>Whether or not a man cheats on his significant other is a fault with him as an individual
Can't cheat if there isn't opportunity.

>However in these cases we make laws that punish the exploiters
Or we could just not allow these situations to arise in the first place. How redundant.

>We shouldn't just ban something because someone might do it the wrong way
Prostitution can only be done the wrong way because it's a wrong practice

>It's their choice to make, not yours
Not an argument. By your logic I can kill you because it's my choice not yours.

>You act as if you're some wise teacher who needs to guide us like childeren
I don't want to teach you anything. But you are definitely children.

>according to what your personal definition of virtue is
>*waddles off to another thread to complain about how all the women are sluts nowadays and he just wants a virgin gf to settle down with*

>>37395078
edgyyy

>ban gambling
Yes

>alcohol
I'm on the fence about this. Responsible alcohol consumption is positive for society and is even healthy. Idiots who drink too much ruin it for everyone though.

>>37395086
>I don't care.
Then I don't have to care that you don't care. Society is bigger than you

>>37395095
I never said people aren't immoral sometimes. Nobody is perfect. I'm saying that the opportunity to do immoral things should be deliberately curtailed to promote societal and moral health.

>>37395130
>Show me a single, solitary instance, in all of fucking human history, that this was the case.
There are no apostates in ISIS controlled areas.

>Grandiose statement with absolutely no backing. Next.
>hahaha if I say it can't work then i'm automatically right ;)

>Society does not need to be protected from some guy paying for fug
>If I deliberately deconstruct prostitution and act like a simplistic idiot I won't have to have a valid argument
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>>37395118
just accept it even if it's wrong its still gonna happen you can close your eyes and say you're a saint but it still happens. kids die and get abused and some other nasty shit
you can't do anything about it just bitch here and be a moralfag about it
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>>37395180
>Society is bigger than you
You aren't in charge of society.
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>>37395150
>he still failed
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>>37395180
>*waddles off to another thread to complain about how all the women are sluts nowadays and he just wants a virgin gf to settle down with*

Don't you put words into my mouth. I've got nothing against women being sluts. I don't particularly like it, but it's not my choice to make. It's theirs, because it's their lives. They'll make their own choices and deal with the consequences.
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>>37395045
>morally wrong
Not for you to decide and frankly, none of your business what goes on behind closed doors. I am gob smacked that you have spent this much tims ranting and raving about men to a bunch of people on an image board. Even worse, you present your arguments as fact with no citations to support them. What the fuck are you doing?
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>>37395180
you sound like a puritan from the 1800s.
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>>37395180
fuck off to /pol/ with your degeneracy garbage you redditor normalscum
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>>37395196
Society agrees with me though. Hence why it's criminalised. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. You can't win.

>>37395226
Of course not because that would mean you'd have to admit to being hypocritical ;)

>>37395229
Society has decided

>none of your business what goes on behind closed doors
Wrong. It's illegal to murder behind closed doors. Illegal to rape. Illegal to molest children. Illegal to torrent movies and games. Illegal to harass. Etc. etc.

>Even worse, you present your arguments as fact with no citations to support them
>y-yeah but when I do the same it's okay
It's 4chan. No citations required. This isn't your high school class.

>>37395235
You sound like a permavirgin from the /r9k/ board.
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>>37395267
>Hence why it's criminalised.
You do realize there's places where prostitution is legal right?
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>>37394910

>you wouldn't know that kids are making porn too or do you?
and you're just justifying your slave kid made shoes too
haha get fucked faggot
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>>37395267
>admitting to being hypocritical over a belief I don't have

>society has decided
In my country prostitution is legal. Guess that makes it right huh?
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>>37395180

>Show me a single, solitary instance, in all of fucking human history, that this was the case.
There are no apostates in ISIS controlled areas.

>Society does not need to be protected from some guy paying for fug
>If I deliberately deconstruct prostitution and act like a simplistic idiot I won't have to have a valid argument

I just want to make sure I get you--

Government sanctioned beheading, impaling, or torture as a punishment for engaging in prostitution is morally superior to regulating the prostitution industry in an effort minimize the harms potentially caused by prostitution.

You want to kill people for paying for fug.
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>>37395180
>Responsible alcohol consumption is positive for society and is even healthy.
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
once again we find the idiot /pol/tard conservashit who loves to label everyone else's vices as "degeneracy" but HIS vices are totally okay, man, they're like even healthy!
kill yourself
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>>37395267
>Society agrees with me though. Hence why it's criminalised.
i guess society doesn't exist in europe then
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>>37395267
You sound like you're tsundere for r9k.
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>>37395271
We're talking about non-third world, non-backwards European shitholes. Go smoke some of dat dank 420 green in Amsterdam you sad cunt.

>>37395278
Which shithole are you from?

>>37395280
>You want to kill people for paying for fug.
>Again deliberately deconstructs and oversimplifies the situation to make a shitty point
No more (you)'s for you.

>>37395281
I don't drink. I just recognise the health benefits associated with red wine.

>>37395300
Not after you imported all of those shitskins. When is your next peaceful event happening?

>>37395313
Only for you, anon. Baka
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>>37395326
New Zealand
It's pretty nice here

Where are you from?
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>>37395326

>You want to kill people for paying for fug.
>Again deliberately deconstructs and oversimplifies the situation to make a shitty point
>No more (you)'s for you.

Is that or is that not what you're saying though? We should kill, maim, or give a life sentence to people who engage in prostitution in an effort to eradicate it.
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>>37395326
>Go smoke some of dat dank 420 green
Thanks, I will :^)
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>>37395341
In New Zealand fucking sheep is also acceptable so I'm not about to hold it as a paragon of moral virtue. You'd think you'd have learnt that you're on your way to being the next Gomorrah with all the earthquakes in Christchurch.

>>37395356
>You want to kill people for paying for fug.
>We should kill, maim, or give a life sentence to people who engage in prostitution in an effort to eradicate it.
These two statements are not the same thing though. I only replied because you actually asked a good question for once.
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>>37395378

>You want to kill people for paying for fug.
>We should kill, maim, or give a life sentence to people who engage in prostitution in an effort to eradicate it.
These two statements are not the same thing though. I only replied because you actually asked a good question for once.

When does it cease to be "paying for fug" and become prostitution? What is your brightline?

Also, you didn't answer my question, faggot.
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>>37395191
youre a moron dude. I never once deny that bad things happen in the world, I never once said cp could be stopped

Im simply telling you, you fucking pedo freak, that wearing shoes potentially made by a child laborer, is not nearly as horrible as watching CP. Child trafficking is the worst crime imaginable besides torture. That opinion is shared worldwide
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>>37395378
>fucking sheep is also acceptable
That's a time honoured cultural tradition anon
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>>37395326
>I don't drink.
Sure you don't, champ.
>I just recognise the health benefits associated with red wine.
oh yes, the supposed "health benefits" from drinking at most one cup of red wine a week, lol
you're such a colossal fucking retard it's a miracle you even know how to wake up in the morning
fucking idiots like you have no place in society and especially no place telling others how society should be
kill yourself right now cuck
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>>37395415
he is just a /pol/kid probably from/r/thedonald what the fuck did you expect?
and he is privileged too that's why he thinks the world is easy and good
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>>37395326
>Not after you imported all of those shitskins.
oh yes, as opposed to america, which willingly imported hordes of niggers and still willingly imports hordes of mexicans
what a paragon of whiteness you are LOL
you're such a dumb americuck, how do you live with yourself?
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>>37395415
>When does it cease to be "paying for fug" and become prostitution?
You miss the point of your own question. You're asking me WHY I want it punished. It's not paying for sex per se that it should be punishable but everything else that comes with it. Like food it's a packaged deal.

>>37395450
I feel so bad for little Australia.

>>37395453
>Sure you don't, champ.
Projection

>from drinking at most one cup of red wine a week
IIRC it's a glass or two per night for the antioxidant effects.

>everything else is REEEEEEEEEEEEing because I and the rest of civilized society don't want you trawling to use mentally unstable women who are forced into a seedy line of work for your own personal enjoyment

>>37395456
You know, if you're going to make assumptions at least one of them should be right.

>>37395469
>you're such a dumb americuck, how do you live with yourself?
I don't. Mostly because I'm not dumb nor a burger.
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>>37395440
i agree that's why i don't even touch kids
again watching a crime is not the same as doing it
because it doesn't change the fact that is already done you can't do anything just watch
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>>37394525
lol dude they do this, there's a pedo that moved in two houses down from me and had to go around to every house in the neighborhood handing out papers stating that he has sexual abuse on his record
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>>37395440
So pizza is exclusively produced by evil human trafficking rings? Even if it was, the harm is already done, if one person watches it or a million do it changes nothing. It's not like you're buying cheap slave-made shoes thus enabling them to continue producing them are you? I'm sure you anon, paragon of morals, always check that every product you buy is made by proper workers.
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>>37395326
Look, Im a Fascist, I get hating degeneracy and all, but I hope you dont plan on actually becoming a politician, because your ideas will never fly

You cant take away peoples Crutches. Drugs and prostitution are important to placate the population. You take away someones crutch, you have a potential extremist/revolutionary that you wouldnt have before
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>>37395492
>You know, if you're going to make assumptions at least one of them should be right.
sorry for thinking you're a /pol/ fag
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>>37395492
>i-i'm not american!
>i-i'm not european either!
oh okay, what are you then champ? im sure your country is the paragon of success and moral virtue LOL
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>>37395508
I'm sure the victims of abuse don't care about the filthy perverts jacking off to their pain. Yes they're just watching after all.
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>>37395549
>im sure victims get a notification instantly when someone watchs their videos right
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>>37395492

>When does it cease to be "paying for fug" and become prostitution?
>You miss the point of your own question. You're asking me WHY I want it punished. It's not paying for sex per se that it should be punishable but everything else that comes with it. Like food it's a packaged deal.

What byproducts exactly do you find distasteful? You know, besides ugly guys getting poon?
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>>37395501
>i agree that's why i don't even touch kids
>i just watch other people touch kids for me
The cognitive dissonance is real. I hope you go back to prison and you're found out before you can be shipped to PC

>>37395514
I wasn't aware that Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Saudi Arabia, etc had revolutionaries overthrowing the government. Thanks for the heads up.

>>37395539
I live in a white, righteous nation that hasn't allowed gay marriage and still bans prostitution in my state. Unfortunately some of the other states are cucked
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>>37395549
Yeah they probably don't care if random people halfway across the world are watching some pictures, they have bigger issues, like family members abusing them.
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>>37395492
>Projection
nah son i'm sure you don't drink at all
that's why you hate every vice except drinking
>IIRC it's a glass or two per night for the antioxidant effects.
ah yes, the same effects you conveniently get from, you know, eating berries instead of drinking grape juice that poisons your insides
fucking moron

by the way, i'm sure you have just as much of a problem with the porn industry as you do the prostitution one, right? those poor women willingly allowing themselves to be filmed in a safe sexual environment in order to earn large amounts of money, so much in fact girls will do it just for spending money even if they come from a well-off family
those poor, abused souls
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>>37395508
>playing the moralfag card

Yeah Im a moralfag because Im against CP. fucking kek
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>>37395586
>dodging the question this hard
too afraid to say where you live huh? guess it's because you realize just how full of shit you are and how garbage your homeland is
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>>37393373
>sir, why is your dick in the masseuse's mouth?
>oh shit, officer, I thought this was a wholesome massage parlor. maddam, release my penis so that I may end this outrageous act at once!
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>>37395586
>if i watch x i want to do x
we have a lot of people who want to be beheaded right i mean look at those isis videos
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Serves you right for having sex and still posting here
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>>37395586
Saudi Arabia has Opium, they dont need alchohal

also Nazi Germany and Italy never banned alcohol, so I have no idea where you get that Idea from, those were some of the best places to live in Europe
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>>37395585
>What byproducts exactly do you find distasteful?
I've already been over this and I think you even responded to it.

>besides ugly guys getting poon?
I don't have an issue with ugly men getting laid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbxinUJcLGg

This guy is a 1/10 but I support him getting married and having children (so long as his genetic defect won't be passed to his children). If you get your shit together you can actually get laid. For free. Without exploiting others.

>>37395604
>that's why you hate every vice except drinking
>the only vices are drugs, alcohol, paying women to pity fuck you and gambling

>ah yes, the same effects you conveniently get from, you know, eating berries instead of drinking grape juice that poisons your insides
If we're going the health puritan route we might as well ban the consumption of all animal products then. Brilliant point.

>porn industry as you do the prostitution one
This is a completely separate argument to prostitution.

>>37395622
I've already revealed where I live to the Kiwi. Not my problem you're an idiot who can't figure it out.

>>37395631
>if i watch x i want to do x
Strawman

>>37395670
And where did I mention banning alcohol again?
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>>37395720
>I've already revealed where I live to the Kiwi.
>so stupid he doesn't even realize what he said or didn't say
man you're a special kind of retard
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>>37395720
>the only vices are drugs, alcohol, paying women to pity fuck you and gambling
nah i know you also masturbate constantly like the cuck you are and probably play video games and watch anime too
which is why you conveniently haven't mentioned them either
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>>37395765
>He can't figure it out despite being obvious
>Every second line in his responses is "y-you're so dumb. retard...."
Projection at its finest
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>>37395783
>"i-it's obvious!" says the cuck, desperately backpedaling after realizing he fucked up
so cute
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>>37395720

>What byproducts exactly do you find distasteful?
I've already been over this and I think you even responded to it.

Okay. So as far as I'm concerned, most of the harms of prostitution can be mitigated by regulating the industry. You disagree because you're too busy smelling your own farts but whatever.

As far as "genetically inferior men" exploiting women in order to get laid, I say that a willing partner is a willing partner. Only fart sniffers really care whether the motivation behind that consent is love, lust, or cash. And only super duper turbo fart sniffers care if the guy is genetically worthy of having sex or whatever retarded shit you're worried about.

Don't hot box too long--you'll blow a blood vessel. Take care, dude.
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>>37395720
>And where did I mention banning alcohol again?

Its about crutches. I said everybody needs a crutch. You are against non-medicinal use of alcohol. You want to enact extreme punishment on those involved with prostitution and drugs to deter its use. Nazi Germany never did that, it was similar to america/england regarding that stuff, which is why there werent revolts
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>>37395783
>he's from Australia
Okay cool I can disregard all your arguments now. Any society with bogan culture is not one I shall be taking advice from.
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>>37395720
>Without exploiting others.
giving people money is exploting them now
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>>37395806
Some other cunt already got it. Why can't you?

>>37395832
>most of the harms of prostitution can be mitigated by regulating the industry
You said this before and I replied that banning it and actually enforcing the law would do basically the same thing. Neither regulation nor criminalisation will ever get rid of prostitution nor the exploitation, even if the incidences are low, but criminalising it has the added benefit of also banning the practice as a whole, avoiding the moral issues.

>>37395837
>You are against non-medicinal use of alcohol
I'm against the abuse of alcohol.

>>37395851
Every country has bogan culture. It's just that every country calls it something different. Strong retard.

>>37395872
Then just give them the money and don't expect them to spread their legs for you then.
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>>37395924
If they're offering sex for money I can't think of a reason why I should decline.
>b-b-but its immoral
I don't care
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>>37391673
Why can't this perv just get a gf.
>>37394092
All women are virtue deal with it.
>>37394790
You type like you need a safespace. Disgusting pedo.
>>37394801
Only sexually abused children go on to work there. Your just continuously abusing women by going there.
>>37395078
Only ugly or weak men do.
>>37395872
If it's not mandated by the government it is. What are you stupid or something. What race are you?
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>>37396025
>the government decides what is moral
lol
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>>37395942
>I don't care
This isn't an argument

>If they're offering sex for money
It's actually you offering money for sex.

I don't get why dumb robots don't understand that banning prostitution helps them too.
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>>37396025
>You type like you need a safespace. Disgusting pedo.

not an argument...
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>>37396048
The people tell the government what to decide is moral. You're not the brightest
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>>37396055
>It's actually you offering money for sex.
Its actually them advertising sex and me paying for it
>don't understand that banning prostitution helps them too.
It doesn't
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>>37396073
>the government listens to what its citizens want
lol
>>
Land of the Free indeed. Feels good to not be in Burgerland. I can safely go to legal prostitutes.
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>>37396065
Why aren't you attracted to real women.
>Is that a argument enough for you
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>>37395924

>You said this before and I replied that banning it and actually enforcing the law would do basically the same thing. Neither regulation nor criminalisation will ever get rid of prostitution nor the exploitation, even if the incidences are low, but criminalising it has the added benefit of also banning the practice as a whole, avoiding the moral issues.

All I know is that you think its more morally correct to flood the prisons with people convicted of engaging in prostitution because you don't like the idea of uggos paying for sex, rather than simply regulating the market in order to battle the exploitation you're pretending to care about. You'd rather inflate the country's criminal population and banish exploited women even further into the shadows than get over your own prejudices.

Because, seriously, you're not exploited if you're willingly doing a service. Thats fucking stupid. And guess what? If the market was regulated, only willing women would agree to suck dick for cash.
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>>37396110
>real women
the roastie reveals herself
>Is that a argument enough for you
no
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>>37396110
>"""""real women"""""
lol
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>>37396081
>Its actually them advertising sex and me paying for it
An advertisement isn't an offer. It is a statement of accepting tender

>It doesn't
It does. Less women in prostitution means more women looking for husbands.

>>37396101
Why do you think fags are allowed to marry now?

>>37396107
>Land of the free amirite? Not even free to murder people and rape. Hahaha Somalia is so much better

>>37396125
Who said anything about prison?

>Because, seriously, you're not exploited if you're willingly doing a service
Yeah because all those children getting fucked in Thailand to willingly support their families aren't being exploited. Like come on guy get with the times it's 2017 it's okay.

>only willing women would agree to suck dick for cash
Which shouldn't be an option for them to begin with
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>>37390192
feels good living in a country where prostitution is completely legal

i'm still a virgin because i am afraid of sexual interaction
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>>37396025
>All women are virtue
Are you ESL?
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>>37396175
>An advertisement isn't an offer
It is
>Less women in prostitution means more women looking for husbands.
And they still aren't going to pick us, so I don't care. It isn't better for us.
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>>37396203
It's literally not.

>And they still aren't going to pick us, so I don't care. It isn't better for us.
Be more desirable then. Stop being a manchild
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>>37396175
>Which shouldn't be an option for them to begin with
Why shouldn't it? Because it destroys your image of women as perfect little pure angels?
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>>37396221
>Be more desirable then.
I don't have to, I'll just pay escorts.
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>>37396222
Because it's immoral and men should be better. Again, not once have I spoken positively about women here.

>>37396244
You're going to die alone and childless lol
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>>37396175

>Who said anything about prison?
Exactly how are you planning to punish these people? Do you actually propose torture or murder simply for buying a hooker? How is that proportionate? How is that morally sound?

>Because, seriously, you're not exploited if you're willingly doing a service
>Yeah because all those children getting fucked in Thailand to willingly support their families aren't being exploited. Like come on guy get with the times it's 2017 it's okay.

Implying that children are mentally and emotionally equipped to give sexual consent. Nice try, Jared.


>only willing women would agree to suck dick for cash
>Which shouldn't be an option for them to begin with

Fucking fuck you. Its her god damn mouth. An adult woman can consent to sex for any fucking reason she likes. Whats it to you?
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>>37396176
Are you legit autistic. Who doesn't want sex.
>>37396128
So I'm female.
>>37396169
That's a drawing of a Asian child. That's neither real nor a woman
>>37396187
Women are strong and they are the virtuous. They will inherit this earth once the men die.
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>>37396257
>You're going to die alone and childless
I don't care.
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>>37396175
>children getting fucked in Thailand
No one said anything about fucking kids
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>>37396278
>Women are strong and they are the virtuous.
>They will inherit this earth once the men die.
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>>37396278
yeah i think i am actually autistic
i do want sex it's just that the idea of actually being alone with a woman is terrifying and i also really fear judgement
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>>37396259
>Do you actually propose torture or murder simply for buying a hooker?
Torture would be morally wrong. Make it a strike-based system.

>How is that morally sound?
>Break law, get punished, don't learn and break law again
Hmmm.... I can only wonder...

>Implying that children are mentally and emotionally equipped to give sexual consent.
>Implying that women who have been abused and are mentally unstable, addicted to narcotics and have absolutely no support system in their life and need money are mentally and emotionally equipped to give sexual consent
It's coercive and exploitative. How would you feel if it were your sister in that situation? Your mother?

>An adult woman can consent to sex for any fucking reason she likes
You can't just do what you like just like you can't sit at home shooting drugs and never contributing to society. Leeches need to be shot.

>>37396284
It's an analogy, mongo.
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>>37396278
>That's neither real nor a woman
Yes, that's the best part.
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>>37396175
You have zero clue of what you're talking about, retarded fat virgin.
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>>37396259
Any adult woman who needs to suck a dick for money is mentally ill to some degree. Why would you abuse her like that.
She can't really make a decision if she's ill.
It's like fucking a downs. You wouldn't fuck a downs would you op?

And pepole should go to jail for it it's a Fucking crime you asshole.
It's a immoral act. It's on the same level of fucking a animal.
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>>37396346
Whoa. Ease up on the projection autismo.
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>>37396348
>Any adult woman who needs to suck a dick for money is mentally ill to some degree
provide evidence for your claim or fuck off
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>>37396175
>children getting fucked in Thailand

That has not been a thing in Thailand since long before you were born. You will get assraped hard if you try. Pedos go to Cambodia these days.
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>>37396364
His evidence is that anything not his pure virgin waifu is immoral.
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>>37396327
Then the analogy is blatantly false
No one should be fucking kids who aren't capable of consenting to sex let alone prostitution.
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>>37396367
Sorry. I'm not up-to-date on where the sick fucks go to exploit children and the natives.
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>>37396385
We aren't talking about consent. We're talking about exploitation. You're assuming a mentally and physically abused women with what she sees as no other choice is able to give consent.
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>>37396396
>You're assuming a mentally and physically abused women with what she sees as no other choice
post proof that this is the case
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>>37392529
If you watch porn and say this, you're a hypocrite.
Sex is as much as a service as anything else

Kys
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>>37396302
Your very strange. Just whip it out and screw around already.
>>37396299
What would you beat off to if we were all dead.
Another guy?
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>>37396418
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2615337/
>Female ex-prostitutes had significantly higher stress response, somatization, depression, fatigue, frustration, sleep, smoking and alcohol problems, and more frequent and serious PTSD symptoms than the other 2 groups
Prostitution apologists btfo

>>37396427
I have a fiance. I don't need porn.
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>>37396364
It's Fucking true retard. All the girls in porn are mentally ill too.
Your Fucking sick. Get help. Your one of the abusers
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>>37396468
>It's Fucking true retard.
Man you sure convinced me. What a compelling argument you just made.
>Your one of the abusers
loving every laugh
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>>37396327

>Torture would be morally wrong. Make it a strike-based system.

But what does that *mean*? What happens after the third strike? Murder? Torture? Jail? Stop dodging the question.

>Break law, get punished, don't learn and break law again
So you are saying that either murder or torture is a fitting punishment for engaging in prostitution?

>Implying that women who have been abused and are mentally unstable, addicted to narcotics

Implying all people that prostitute themselves are in such dire straits. Implying that a regulated market wouldn't attract a better class of people. Implying that people such as these don't end up in prostitution exactly because its an unregulated profession that promises a huge payout and some fucked up type of family structure (a pimp and his girls, etc). Whew, lad.
> and have absolutely no support system in their life

And somehow a regulated industry wouldn't provide this...? Somehow keeping these women in the shadows combats this?

>and need money are mentally and emotionally equipped to give sexual consent

So you're saying that women who have these issues shouldn't be able to give sexual consent in *any* situation, right? This would just be a flimsy strawman otherwise.

>It's coercive and exploitative. How would you feel if it were your sister in that situation? Your mother?
Appeals to emotion. Not an argument. Next.

>You can't just do what you like just like you can't sit at home shooting drugs and never contributing to society. Leeches need to be shot.

These women are preforming a service, stimulating the economy and, in a regulated industry, would be paying taxes. It is not even remotely the same as staying home and shooting up drugs.
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>>37396441
This study was done in a county where prostitution is illegal so most of the stress and stuff comes from them having to hide what they're doing, if it was legal and regulated this wouldn't be the case.
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>>37396486
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2629520/
>Twenty-one performers and both key informants noted that alcohol and drug abuse were common in the industry, especially among female performers.
>Mental health problems reported by performers included post-traumatic stress disorder, depression, bipolar affective disorder, and suicide. Five female performers described their own mental illness, and eight additional performers and key informants noted that mental illness was highly prevalent among female performers.
Porn apologists btfo
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>>37390567
But was it safe, yeh?

Know a Korean from San Diego who used to go down to Tijuana and he was robbed and chased by two knife wielding Mexicans and was only saved because he ran in front of a bar at the same time when a large group of American marines happened to be coming out of.
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>>37396541
Really says something about the state of this board when people are arguing that porn should be illegal.
Once again, women and normalfags ruin everything.
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Oh boy, here's all the Bible thumping evangelical retards with their moral authoritarianism.

Prostitution has existed for as long as society has. It needs to exist.

Like guy pictured for example:
It's not his fault his ugly ass parents decided to slam uglies and create this poor bastard. He never asked to be born. Yet here he is. It's not fair to deny him something everyone else experiences just because his parents didn't realize two ugly people procreating equals really ugly children. Sex is a basic human activity. He is still human. Lets be real here, there is no way any woman would willingly have sex with this if she has any other option. Letting this guy have sex for once in his miserable life isn't going to spell the end of society.

A lot of women in prostitution are lazy cunts who could work a real job, but choose not to because it's work. A lot of these women can leave the profession any time they want, but don't of their own accord.
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>>37396505
>Stop dodging the question.
I haven't dodged it. It has been very clearly implied what the punishment for repeat offenders displaying a blatant disregard for law and society is: execution. Not murder. Not torture. Not jail.

>So you are saying that either murder or torture is a fitting punishment for engaging in prostitution?
Neither. I'm saying that execution for repeat offenders is in order. If you've been punished repeatedly and refuse to learn then there is no other option left for society. You force its hand.

>Implying all people that prostitute themselves are in such dire straits
Read the studies, apologist

>Appeals to emotion. Not an argument. Next.
You're an idiot. The argument is that it's coercive and exploitative. You haven't refuted this. Asking about how you would feel is not the argument. It's a question.

>These women are preforming a service, stimulating the economy and, in a regulated industry, would be paying taxes.
A service not required by society. I think we'll live without their meagre tax contributions when we'd have to support them with their medical and mental issues. Pass

>>37396507
>if it was legal and regulated this wouldn't be the case.
Citation required

>>37396554
>omg how dare everyone want to prohibit me from unhealthy activities that exploit others. i can't even
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>>37393225
This right here is on the momey
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>>37396578
>It's not fair to deny him something everyone else experience
Of course it is. It's evolution.

>It needs to exist
It doesn't

>the Bible thumping evangelical retards
Not even religious

>He is still human
Not an argument


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbxinUJcLGg

This guy is uglier but has a child and wife. It's not an excuse
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>>37396612
It's not. It's morally justified and is exactly what nature intended. You're just entitled.
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>>37396594
>>omg how dare everyone want to prohibit me
Porn is legal you stupid fuck and that is not changing anytime soon. And there is nothing you can do but cry about it.
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>>37396649
>Porn is legal
Nobody said it wasn't you triggered autist
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>>37396613
Not everyone wants to get married and marriage is not a requirement to have sex.
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>>37396613

You don't think that guy goes to see Women with that extra cash
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>>37396665
If porn is legal then your claim of "everyone wants to prohibit it" is false, you triggered autist.
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>>37396613
Prostitution isn't going anywhere get over it.
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>>37396668
Then enter into a long-term relationship then? Not hard.

>>37396685
>He's too stupid to recognise me mocking him

>>37396696
...????????? It's already illegal in most countries though.
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Isn't that expensive? Not many people could afford that
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>>37396554
It's a fucking sperglord robot who is arguing porn should be illegal.
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>>37396705
Prostitution is legal almost everywhere except in Burgerland. You truly are mind-blowingly stupid.
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>>37396705
>>He's too stupid to recognise me mocking him
No, you fucked up and got called out on it and now you're trying to damage control. Its hilarious.
>>37396715
>It's a fucking sperglord robot
No it isn't, the guy sperging over porn and hookers said he has a fucking fiance.
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>>37396705
I know it is that's why I said it isn't going anywhere.
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>>37396705
>not hard
Is for me :(
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>>37396386
Just like you're not up to date about what the world is like outside of your basement since you have not left it in over five years.
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>>37396705
Not everyone wants a long term relationship either.
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>>37396731
He has a 2D fiancee obviously.
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>>37396725
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Prostitution_laws_of_the_world.PNG

Every single post you call me stupid. Every single post you get BTFO

>>37396731
Autismo. The green text was a satire of what you're complaining about. Calm down and jerk off to anime.

>>37396737
Sorry to hear that.

>>37396746
I moved out of home years ago. We don't even have basements here

>>37396749
Die alone then?
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>>37396594

I really reeeeeaaaaallllly don't feel like searching for studies on this right now. You win because I'm fucking lazy. Congrats, fuckface.
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>>37393795
You need to die unironically
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>>37396770
>The green text was a satire of what you're complaining about.
Satire is generally supposed to be accurate
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>>37396780
>You win because I'm fucking lazy
Whatever makes you feel better about being wrong.

>>37396798
>Implying you're not complaining about everyone anti-porn in here trying to prohibit you from exploiting others
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>>37396770
>Die alone then?
I'll just fuck escorts until that time comes.
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>>37396820
With what money?

>>37396788
Hey, I'm not the immoral genetic garbage who NEEDS prostitution to exist to get laid.
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>>37396816
>everyone anti-porn in here trying to prohibit you from exploiting others
You can do your little autistic screeching fit over porn until you're blue in the face. It won't change anything. Porn will never be illegal. And it isn't """"exploitation"""" either.
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>>37396835
The money in my bank account, retard.
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>>37396838
Another performer described how agents find female performers, "A lot of these girls are young and maybe they have a drug problem or whatever and they end up in the business because somebody that calls themselves an agent found them on the street corner and decided to exploit them."

Even the performers call it exploitation.

>>37396865
$10 won't even get you a handie from a cracked out nigger behind a fastfood joint
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>>37396884
Good thing I have more than $10 then lol
Why are you so assmad?
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>>37396835
Can you imagine a world were immoral neets don't exist anymore.
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>>37396893
>Why are you mad at how I'm so pathetic I have to pay for sex?
??????
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>>37396923
Yeah, why are you? Its not like it affects you.
Every man has to pay for sex, btw. You have to buy your girlfriend gifts, pay for her dinner on dates, etc or she wouldn't sleep with you. I'm just cutting out the bullshit in the middle and skipping to the point.
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>>37396946
He has to pay animators for his 2D waifu to have imaginary sex with him.
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>>37396946
>Yeah, why are you? Its not like it affects you.
?????? I'm not mad though

>You have to buy your girlfriend gifts, pay for her dinner on dates, etc or she wouldn't sleep with you
I have slept with women without spending a single dollar. I even got nuggets out of one before bringing her back home. Nothing spent. Go outside and actually get some real world experience.
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>>37396835
No but you're the subhuman mentally ill man who likes 3d cp. You need to be exterminated. If I ever see you I would unironically beat the ever shit out of you. Pedos deserve death of the merciless kind.
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>>37397024
The fuck are you talking about? I've argued against child pornography and child exploitation this entire thread.

>If I ever see you I would unironically beat the ever shit out of you
I'd choke you out in front of your family pussy
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>>37396997
>I'm not mad though
you very clearly are. You're going on these multi-paragraph rants on how porn is """""exploitation"""", saying undesirable men shouldn't be allowed to fuck hookers, and a bunch of other moralfag shit.
>I have slept with women without spending a single dollar.
You really think someone would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies? lol
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Has this whole thread been one buttblasted virgin trying to argue prostitution should be illegal because he doesn't like it?


The worst part is that he doesn't even care about women's safety. The best argument against prostitution is that in some way it supports child sex trafficking, but /ourguy/ left that out for some reason.


Now, I don't really care about prostitution one way or the other because I don't like paying for sex, but if someone willingly becomes sells their body I don't think anybody should stop them. The problem is that a lot of prostitutes become victims of other crimes because no one wants to be the guy standing up for whores.
That guy is the kind worst kind of white knight because he thinks others shouldnt have sex because he doesn't get any.
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>>37397085
>Has this whole thread been one buttblasted virgin trying to argue prostitution should be illegal because he doesn't like it?
Yes.
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>>37397058
>You have to be mad to speak your mind
Maybe for beta autists like you

>You really think someone would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?
>If I couldn't do it then nobody could
Stay jelly
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>>37396946
>You have to buy your girlfriend gifts, pay for her dinner on dates, etc or she wouldn't sleep with you.


You don't have to do any of that shit bro. Take girls somewhere cheap and have her pay for own damn self. Go to a museum or a park or something. Dinner dates are boring as fuck and show a lack of originality.
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>>37394395

>dying on a film set is accidental and, apart from a handful of movies, genuine deaths are not in the final cut we see
>everyone reacts to gore the way edgy teenagers on /b/ do
>deliberately seeking out raped and violated children who have been deliberately filmed or photographed for sexual deviants is totally acceptable because footage of accidents exists
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>>37397119
>>You have to be mad to speak your mind
No, but to go at it with the vitriol that you did, you're obviously mad. No one types essays over this shit unless they're mad. And the fact that you keep denying it proves it even more
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>>37397126
Mate, he's confused and thinks all women are prostitutes who fuck if you just throw money at them. Don't bother talking sense to him
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>>37397126
>Take girls somewhere cheap and have her pay for own damn self.
No girl is going to be down for that. I've actually asked girls what they think about this and their response was "if I'm just going to be paying for myself I'd rather go out with friends"
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>>37397136
>vitriol
>Accurately describing the average robot is now vitriol
Did I invade your safe space faggot? Am I ruining your hug box?
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>>37397152
>if I'm just going to be paying for myself I'd rather go out with friends
Because you're a loser with nothing to offer. How did you not figure this out already?
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>>37397153
The vitriol that you have towards porn and prostitution is proof that you're mad. The bottom half of your post is just screeching autistically.
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>>37397167
I wasn't asking them about me dumbass.
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>>37397177
>Pointing out that prostitution is immoral and exploitative is now vitriol
wew lad

>>37397190
;) Of course not
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>>37393987
>Feet with cum
Obviously that's atrocious but I honestly don't see how it is legally condemnable. Wouldn't they have to prove that the substance in the photo is cum which would be impossible to do? You could just say that the photo is sunscreen on feet.
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>>37397152
Then those sluts aren't worth your time. It's very easy to come up with low cost dates like a home-cooked meal or casual stroll in the park. The girls I've had the most success would sometimes pay for me or weren't entitled bitches.
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>>37397200
>>Pointing out that prostitution is immoral and exploitative is now vitriol
Going on multi-paragraph rants about it, for several hours, is proof that you're mad. Keep denying it all you want, the proof is right here for everyone to see. Fucking loser.
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>>37397085
Really. Cause the fucker got arrested and now he's fishing for pedophile (you)s

It's Fucking illegal and needs to stay that's way. The girls need counseling and therapy.

And if your attractive maybe you should read Darwin's view on weather you should get fucked or not.

Only chads should fuck women.

>survival of the fittest
>reccesive ugly fucks need to be purged.
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>>37397217
>Can only talk about things for hours if mad
Lmfao just stop.

>>37397221
This on both accounts
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>>37397221
oh so you're just one of those psuedo-alphas?
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>>37397236
You wrote fucking essays about it. You're mad
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>>37397221
Most people have sex for pleasure not for the sole purpose of procreation.
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>>37397258
How does this defeat his argument?
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>>37397221
If we're going to go with this "muh nature" argument then it should okay for people to club women over the head, drag them back to their cave and impregnate their unconscious body. I mean, that's what the early humans did, its only natural.
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>>37397237
I'm not male.
>>37397258
People that are ugly and half to pay for it don't deserve sex.
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>>37397277
>half to pay for it
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>>37397277
Why are you the one to say that though? If a woman wants to trade sex for money that's her choice, not yours.
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>>37397273
Well originally all the ones with the biggest clubs were alpha males.
Watch a quest for fire. It shows how betas shouldn't breed better.
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>>37397294
A club is a weapon, and weapon creation is tied to intelligence, actually.
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>>37397305
Having the best weapon doesn't mean shit if you're busy getting your ass beat by the superior specimen
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>>37397319
Ranged weapons exist.
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>>37397292
Actually it's the cops choice.
And if it's illegal and there doing it then it's due to mental illness.
They need to be charged and sent to a shrink.
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>>37397326
>implying having a ranged weapon matters if you miss your first shot and are too busy getting your ass beat to reload
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>>37397326
Not on a neets allowance from momma frog they don't. Kek
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>>37397328
>if it's illegal and there doing it then it's due to mental illness.
prove it
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>>37397336
Then don't miss. Its not hard to hit a human body, they're a pretty good size and they can't run fast like deer or some shit.
>>37397350
I have a job. Find another strawman.
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>>37390192
Which state? Arizona?
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>>37397266
His argument is retarded because "undesirable" people have been having sex since the dawn of the time. We wouldn't have societies built upon the backs of working class people if they didn't.

The bottom line is that most people will actually find a mate someday and reproduce. In todays society it just seems like a lot of people don't see the point in it and thus eschew interaction with the opposite sex. Unless you live in China or something it's still pretty to go out find a girl willing to bone provided you're not an autist. You might not get a 10/10 model every time but you'll get some pussy nonetheless.


>>37397277
Ugly is subjective for men.
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cp is bad
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>>37397353
You do realize how many of them have been violently raped by a family member or a friend right.
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>>37397359
>implying an inferior specimen is going to be able to hit a moving target with adrenaline pumping through him
You all died out for a reason.

>>37397383
>"undesirable" people have been having sex since the dawn of the time
This makes absolutely no sense
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>>37397217
That dude has some issues with whoring. He might be the accidental son of a prostitute or something.
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>>37397328
>the cops are responsible for drafting and passing legislation
Retard detected
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>>37397433
Are you stupid or something half the politicians were Fucking cops. Wew lad.
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>>37397433
>Cops aren't responsible for who they enforce the law on
Retard detected
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>>37397397
That isn't proof, that's your words.
>>37397422
Yeah go ahead and try to dodge my AR-15, see how that works out for you lol
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>>37392529
>paid sex between two consenting adults is morally wrong
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>>37397457
Then the law is not being enforced consistently which is a problem. The cops shouldn't pick and choose.
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>>37397465
His whole spiel is that prostitution is inherently immoral. He's also a christfag. Don't waste your time.
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>>37397328
>They need to be charged and sent to a shrink.


If they are victims like you're saying why punish them? I agree that women who sell themselves probably don't have all their screws adjusted but giving someone a criminal charge will just embitter them and probably make the go back to the life in the first place.


People who sells their bodies do so because in their minds a better job wasn't available. Why would you put something on their record that makes it harder for them to an honest decent paying job?


Once they hit their 40's prostitutes are fucked (no pun intended) because they'll see fewer and fewer customers, thus losing their livelihood. It's better to give these girls job skills not prison time.
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>>37397460
>talking about prehistoric men and clubs
>start getting btfo
>m-muh AR-15....
lmfao use it to shoot yourself

>>37397495
Lies

>>37397465
Yes.

>>37397483
You're 100% right. Just pointing out the logic in what seems illogical.
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>>37397496
You can't rob Peter to pay paul.

Everyone's guilty. Everyone gets jail.
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>>37397511
>>start getting btfo
Where? In your imagination?
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>>37397534
No
>in his own mind.
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>>37397534
>Where? In your imagination?
>Have to keep changing weapons to try and not lose argument
>Not BTFO
kek
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>>37397548
If seriously think any man can dodge an arrow that's been fired at him then you are clinically retarded.
>>
every time someone uses the term autist as an insult normies get 1 step closer to getting terrorized by a shooter
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>>37397560
If you seriously think every arrow is 100% accurate you are clinically retarded. Especially when it's you firing it. You aren't hitting shit.
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>>37397422
The narrative that only attractive people breed and have kids is a fabricated one considering all the ugly people that I see walking around with kids and spouses. Sex isn't some end all be all. Once you've had it, it becomes rather unremarkable hence why people don't mind paying for like a mcdonalds cheesburger.
I've only had sex with one girl but once I did I realized that there were plenty of other times that I could have with other girls if I hadn't been a blithering retard about the situation. You don't have to be some Chad Thundercock-"captain of the high school football team" to get laid. You just need to be a mildly well adjusted fellow or just quit being a pussy and pay for it.


Also Chads are the ones who see strippers and prostitutes since they don't moral qualms about purity like betas do.
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>>37397592
>Especially when it's you firing it.
I was on my school's archery team and skeet shooting team and we never took lower than 4th place in state competitions.
Get mad.
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>>37397532
That's retarded and if that's the case prostitution should be legalized so that prostitutes can have safer working environments. Most brothels are run by the whores themselves so they have control than if they were being leased by some pimp.


If you hate sex so much, stop trying to preside over it.
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>>37397671
They don't hate sex, they hate ugly men having sex. NOTHING makes a roastie more angry than seeing beta men happy.
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>>37397630
Skeet shooting is irrelevant in this context. And firing a bow you should know they were much shittier, inaccurate, harder to draw, harder to aim, etc in prehistoric times than now. Get out of here with this shit.

>>37397613
>The narrative that only attractive people breed and have kids is a fabricated one considering all the ugly people that I see walking around with kids and spouses
This isn't my position though

>You don't have to be some Chad Thundercock-"captain of the high school football team" to get laid
I never said you did

>You just need to be a mildly well adjusted fellow
I agree completely

>quit being a pussy and pay for it.
Or don't be an abusive, exploitative, immoral cunt. That's a good one too.

My argument this entire time has been that betas should fix themselves to find someone who wants them instead of paying vulnerable women to allow the beta to use her for a mere 30 minutes.
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>>37397701
Lol you're trying to come up with every excuse in the world as to why I couldn't hit someone with an arrow. You are so assblasted.
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>>37397701
If the woman wants to offer sex for money thats her choice.
The only people who try to tell a woman she can't have sex with someone are betas.
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>>37390328
Did they see you naked?
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>>37397701
>Or don't be an abusive, exploitative, immoral cunt.
No one is holding a gun to her head, it is not abuse or exploitation
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>>37397710
>>37397730
Oh look. Both employing the same attempted shame tactic to justify being wrong.

>>37397748
We've been over this and medical articles and studies have been posted showing that it is. You can stop being an apologist now.
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>>37397455
>half the politicians are cops
please never breed
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>>37397759
I'm not wrong. Keep flailing your arms and insisting otherwise if that makes you feel better.
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>>37397701
>Or don't be an abusive, exploitative, immoral cunt.


Since when are people who use prostitutes this? Sex slaves aside,whores CONSENT to sex. Your entire argument hinges on believing prostitution is immoral, which in some cultures it isn't.
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>>37397759
No, it isn't. Consensual sex between adults is not abuse or exploitation no matter you badly you want to claim that it is.
I'm starting to think that other anon is right. You probably have a complex about prostitution because you're the baby of a hooker or something.
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>>37397806
This has already been argued. Just scroll up.

>which in some cultures it isn't
lol

>>37397813
Scroll up
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>>37397837
You're wrong, get over it.
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>>37397849
Repeating that over and over doesn't make it true. :)
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>>37397868
repeating "m-muh abuse" over and over doesn't make it true :)
>>
How do you find these anyway?
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>>37397882
It does if it's supported by fact and scientific evidence. Which it is :)
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>>37397837
No dude you need to get over the fact that not everybody lives a sheltered life in some podunk midwestern suburb.


People pay for sex because people like sex. It's the oldest profession in the world and it isn't going anywhere. The best thing to do is make it legal so that it can become safer for all parties involved. Your dumb moral guardianship just show how little you know of how the world works.
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>>37397900
Attorneys have much higher stress than most jobs and also have higher instances of substance abuse. Does this mean we should outlaw the profession of attorneys?
Consensual sex is not fucking abuse.
I'll be sure to think of you the next time I cum all over some escort's big fat titties :)
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>>37397895
I forgot what it's called but there is a site that shows all massage parlors in the area and if they provide happy endings. It's kinda like yelp but for handjob quality.
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>>37397903
>The best thing to do is make it legal so that it can become safer for all parties involved.
>Just be immoral, fuck it. Who cares if it harms the mental and physical health of participants

>>37397938
>Consensual sex is not fucking abuse
It's not consensual though. It's coercive.

>I'll be sure to think of you the next time I cum all over some escort's big fat titties
>This faggot is going to think of a man while cumming
>>
>I want money
>I want sex
>here's a price
>okay deal

Seems like a mutually beneficial trade to me
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>>37397963
>It's not consensual though.
It is.
>It's coercive.
I am doing nothing to coerce them. If she does not want my money, she has every right to say no to me.
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>>37397967
B-B-BUT ITS IMMORAL!!!!111!!1
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>>37397980
I'm done. Lots of retards posting arguments already refuted. Read the rest of the thread.
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>>37398015
>I'm done.
Yeah because you lost.
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>>37397963
>Just be immoral, fuck it. Who cares if it harms the mental and physical health of participants


They can always stop being whores if that's the case. Prostitution will always exist so long as money and vaginas do as well. There is no point in trying to stop it.
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>>37398042
not him but appeals to futility are not arguments
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>>37398064
not him but appeals to morality are not arguments
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>>37398038
thank god I will never be this retarded.
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you know solicitation's like the easiest thing to get a pardon for besides a DUI

get a good lawyer son
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>>37391529
They actually lose money arresting, prosecuting, and imprisoning people. They "allow it" because they're underfunded. Think logically not with your butthurt. Yes human trafficking exists and there's a possibility you're paying the people enslaving these women.
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