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Why aren't you a communist?

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Why aren't you a communist?
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>>37325831
because i'm in the upper 50% desu
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>>37325844
You're still oppressed by the bourgeoisie, you know that right?
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>tfw anarcho-communist masterrace
BASH THE FASH.
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>/r9k/ is full of fellow AnComs and LibSocs
It is the final red-pill:
That hierarchical socio-political structures are a relic of Feudalism and Capitalism.
And man is at his best when he is free from authority and free from his needs.
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>>37325831
Why don't you board this helicopter, anon?

I'd like to say all communists must die. But how can something that is not alive in the beginning can cease existing?
No, terminating communists will only rectify a mistake that shouldn't have been made.
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i'm a self-hating neet
fuck the welfare state
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>>37326049
> anarcho-communist

Imagine a line of cuckolds prepping the bull, forever.
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>not being anarchis mustard rice
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>>37325831
Because Tankies (state capitalism) are too fragile, as it may or may not require col-existing with Capitalist nations. They require silence and propaganda to advance the power and wealth of those in the state level. I'm an Anarchist because in a communal society people are self-deterministic and more weary of needs and ability.
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I was born into wealth. That and most commies are insufferably disgusting faggots.
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>>37326230
>the welfare state
If all communism means to you is "the welfare state" you don't know anything about it.
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>>37325831
By the way, can I get the original image? I want to make my own edits.
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Porky get out.
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cause the right has much better memes
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>>37326261
This.

And unless you're a third-world dude starving to death in Ethiopia or an oppressed bitch in India don't tell me "muh bourgeoisie oppression".

If you call yourself communist in the west you're just a cuck and a weakling. You have it better than 60% of the rest of the world. You just try to be a victim. Pathetic.
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>>37326268
Not the original but best edit
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>>37326265
same idea. it's like the welfare state on steroids.
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>>37326322
This

Communism was created in a time of true hardship and desperation, not for pudgy ass college numales with iphones to fantasize over. It's not a relevant ideology and it never came close to being sustainable.
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>commies are now literal faggots
It's getting more humane every day just gassing everyone of you.
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>>37326323
I meant OP's image. I want to edit it into a tankie sissyboy becoming a qt anarcho-commie trap.
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>>37326349
>this guy
Did you learn that from American media?
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>>37326288
I'm sorry, there is only so many times one can laugh at the punchline "jew" or "sjw"
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>>37326417
Where else could he learn that?
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Because fascism is the only truth.
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>>37325831
wow please i am not that retarded and i had to get my carer to help me write this
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>>37326417
Not him

Communism is actually worse once you have decent understanding of it by reading the manifesto and the 1844 manuscripts. The one argument that Marx came up with to counter the idea that communism destroys ambition is a very weak one. If you think the current state of the West is culturally challenged, a Marxist state would be even worse.
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>>37326459
Communism is a cancer. It needs to be rooted out and totally annihilated.

On the other hand I'm thankful that most of the manly communists passed away in the 90s with the fall of the USSR. All were left with now are college manlet cucks, which won't be hard to imprison and exterminate once we take power.
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>>37325831
Because i have a functioning understanding of world history and economics.
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>>37326541
>once we take power
Why do you think that will happen? You fat neckbearded cuckolds aren't going to have anyone worthwhile to vote for. So unless you drop a few hundred pounds you aren't seizing power anytime soon.
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>>37326472
Something given has no value. When you vote you are exercising political authority, you're using force. And force my friend is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authority is derived.

Naked force has resolved more issues throughout history than any other factor. The contrary opinion, that violence never solves anything, is wishful thinking at its worst.
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>>37326049
>anarcho-communist
I've never heard two lines of word make absolutely no sense no matter how much I wrap around it.
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>>37326632
Because you're American and don't actually know what communism is.
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>>37325831
Because my family is just barely in the top 1%.

Also I want to retire as early as possible, before 30 and commie just means it takes longer.
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>>37326706
Commie policies**
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>>37325831
because im not evil/have some morals and ethics
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>>37325831
because theft is morally wrong
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>>37326705
I'm Canadian and know exactly what communism is. The only thing it has in common with anarchism is its goal of egalitarianism, but their means of achieving it are completely different, which is why he says it makes no sense.
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>>37326705
a failed ideology that bankrupts a nation of their wealth and resources just to have global vultures swoop in and buy assets/land/factories/etc. for a cheap penny.
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>>37326588
One day, we will. Maybe not this generation, but it's bound to happen. You fags, immigrant-loving, self-righteous communists, people will soon realize you're pathetic excuses for what our glorious race should be, and they'll correct the mistake with raw power.
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>>37325831
because most westerners aren't retarded
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>>37326323
it's worth noting that both left and right totalitarians rape you from behind, while both left and right libertarians look you in the face while raping you
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>>37326787
Getting raped with eye contact is definitely the Patrician choice.
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>>37326769
>muh white race
Being 16 and fresh from r/the_donald sure is fun.
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Cause China will always do it better
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>>37325831
I'm a philosophical anarchist.
I'd support communism actively but too many want something on a global or national scale. I think starting with small scale communes is the way to go.
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>>37326855
I don' give a fuck. We're the future. One way or another we'll create a situation in which we will fuck you up in the ass.Maybe it'll come from a 70 year-old real estate tycoon, who knows
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>>37325831
Originoli Originoli, fuck those communistolis
If you live in any western country you have it better than 90% of the world, you wont climb any dominance hierarchy in communist systems, there is no dominance hierarchy to climb, Their is The Rich people behind the revolution, the new ruling party, bureaucrats, and then you living in squalor as the state fails to provide for all and becomes more genocidal.

Sort yourself out.

CLEAN YOUR ROOM.
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>>37326588
I hope "you" take power, so your so beloved "right wing death squads" can put you in gas chambers for being autistic. Would be hilarious to see.
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>>37326894
In a few decades whites will be a minority and there's nothing you can do about it, faggot.
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>>37326855
Posting stuff like that on the Donald wouldn't actually be met well they'd accuse you of being a liberal tryna make right wingers look like Nazis
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>>37326894
>we're the future
>the self-hating race getting outbred 8:1 is the future
Sure anon.
>70 year old real estate tycoon
The same who just bombed Assad and sold the Saudis a hundred billion dollars in weapons?
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>>37326925
Whoops, meant to reply to >>37326541

originalo original, why is it so hard to post on /r9k/?
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>>37326924
Capitalism explained:

"Ok who do we fuck over today so our imaginary stock prices go up?"
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I bet none of you plebs have even read Bordiga.
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>>37326924
Amazing meme my man, you sure showed them.
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>>37326632
>American/Canadian education
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>>37326947
>>37326929

>8% of whites oppressed 90% of blacks during more than a century

South Africa proves that a minority can still rule the majority.
Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union proves that we can dispose millions of humans in a very short period of time thanks to an industrial death complex.
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Because communism is a spook,
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>>37326632
>Communism is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money, and the state.
Idk seems at least compatible.
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>>37325831
Because I don't hate humanity enough yet to want to make everyone suffer their entire lives. I do see why robots would want that though.
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>>37326984
I'm pretty sure you've never read anything by Marx and your knowledge of communism and Marxism is only based off of memes
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>>37327005
Yeah, the average white male is a literal cuck though and the alt-right are skelly armchair warriors. It's not gonna happen. It's over. You lost. Move to some majority white country and let America go to hell, it's always been a shithole anyway.
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>>37327013
only real answer here desu
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>>37327005
You do realize that blacks who live in first world countries are not like blacks who lived in Africa few centuries ago, right?
None of you overweight neckbeard will ever rule, you socially inept retards.
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Finally made my le epic may may.
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Becaus, comunism has been proven over and over again that it doesn't work, the free market was always what made countries economy successful. It was also the system that gave the people the most freedom to pursue their interests.

Comunism is appealing to those who are after equality of outcome, social justice, etc. The objective looks ok on paper, but when it comes to the actual results, capitalism did better in all regards, even in helping the poor.
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>>37327027
>hate humanity enough yet to want to make everyone suffer their entire lives.
Is that what communism is?
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>>37327030
>he hasn't read Das Kapital and thinks others are as uneducated as him
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>>37327068
Post template please. Also tell us how you found it.
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>>37327031
>you lost

>Trump in power
>Pence in power
>Judge Gorsuch
>President Duterte
>Brexit

Not the great awakening of the white race yet, but based on this evidence, we seem to be on the ascending slope.

Go get your pussy hat and prep the bull now now, you pampered commie cuck.
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>>37327096
I've read part of it and the manifesto. I know I'm right in saying that the end is the same but the means are different when it comes to communism vs anarchism
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>>37327113
>Trump in power
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>>37327113
Have you been following anything your President has been doing? He's sucking Saudi and Israeli dick so much they're coming out through his ears.
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>>37327031
>america was a shithole in the 50s
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>>37326980
>What is moving industries
>What is expansions of a business
>What is innovation of materials and processes
>What is broadening of services
>What is Research and development

Yup, Look at all those mean things companies do to increase their value. Throw it all away it hurts my feelings. :(
>>37326982
>Amazing meme my man, you sure showed them.
Not an argument.
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>>37327109
I just kinda googled every trap meme I can find.
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>>37327150
>muh 50's
I hate you faggots, the 50's was degenerate. Your romanticised view on it is juvenile af
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>>37327131
Yes but anarchic communism is valid ideological school of thought. Its beyond Marx and more left then traditional "socialism"

Here, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism

An
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I FUGG W/ GOMMUNISTS :-DDD
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>>37327153
>Not an argument.
Your argument is "haha socialists hate rich they poop funny stickman figure"
Also there was an image attached.
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>>37327153
>Not an argument.
>it was a response to a strawman "argument"
Wew.
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>>37327180
>degenerate
stop falling for /pol/ memes, anon, it's really cringy. I understand that being 16 is hard, and that through your edgy phase is just a part of growing up, but try to control yourself a bit.
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>>37327180
No, the 60s and beyond were degenerate. For obvious reasons
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People who say "not true communism" have never actually read the comprehensive works of Marx.

Marxism is attractive to the unemployed and to the people who wont work because they want "better" .

These people do not realize that this is a group of people called the lumpenprolitariate, a group that Marx says must be culled.

So go ahead and go full commie libshits, you will end up in mass graves while conservatives continue to work in factories and on farms.
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>>37327135
Israeli is a successful white segregated comunity in the Middle-East. They're Jews but it could be worse.

Only a complete negro wouldn't understand that he still needs to talk and do business with everybody. But what am I saying, pinkos aren't realistic nor intelligent.
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>>37327285
Ah, yes. He'll stick it to the muslims by giving them weapons.
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>>37325831
because communism always manages to help the people i hate
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>>37327203
That wasn't my argument dingus, the picture is there to get your attention, and boy did it.

My argument was in my post, and it was that in a communist system the dominance hierarchy that we have had in our biology since inception is disrupted if not destroyed. Do you think that in your glorious revolution you will become a party bureaucrat enslaving the labor of all under you so you can sit in your nice office stamping paper?, go home to your home, not apartment bloc with your party approved wife? Chances are you'll be part of the starving masses, or if your luck is good enough, dead in a ditch where you'll avoid the living hell to come.

Our current system may not be perfect. There is no reason to actively peruse a system that is known to have cause the direct death of 60-70 MILLION people, unless of course, life is such a suffering that is is better for it to never had occurred. If your end goal is the destruction of lives, start with yourself.
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Because every thought or invented political/economic/government system is retarded by default. We're too arrogant to see our race of animals is actually a lot more stupid than we think. There's no governing ourselves, there's no winning until we destroy ourselves, and those who evolve to survive our destruction are possibly the forerunners to continuing our huge expansion of the universe literally trying to understand and organize itself.
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>>37326049
The only thing you're capable of bashing is the remnants of pride and hope your parents might of had for you. Better dead than red, faggot.
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>>37327307
I don't think anybody cares if he supplies guns to the Saudis. What he needs to do is to stop the Muslim invasion. Irrelevant.
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>>37325831
Because I understand, and communists don't, that markets are a good thing.

Communists make the mistake of suppressing capitalism instead of simultaneously exploiting it and undermining the need for it.

Also they tend to want revolution, which intrinsically alienates a lot of the population, instead of evolution which can benefit everyone.
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>>37327426
I'm sure they're proud of you boy.
Also, and I know I'll be made fun of, but the whole "family order" is a meme.
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>>37327307
With which they'll use to kill other muslims. Funny how that works out.
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>>37327444
>I don't think anybody cares if he supplies guns to the Saudis
>I don't think
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>>37327455
And also fund terrorism in Western countries.
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>>37327453
>family order is a meme
Civilization is only capable of being perpetuated when it has families which produce children that retain that civilization's culture. You're brainwashed if you think otherwise.
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What if I don't want to eventually transition a socialist state into workers syndicates or communes. What if I just want redistribution but anarchism in all of it's forms does not appeal to me in the slightest.
Also I find that 99% of communist memes are kind of shit, and just about everyone I've met in real life or online who says they're a communist is insufferable outside of 4chan and leftypol.
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>>37327493
Most of those attack have happened in multi-culti big cities that are controlled by leftists or occur in night clubs that are full of homosexuals. These, coincidentally, are the very same people who advocate for the inclusion of muslims and rapefugees into our country. They're getting exactly what they asked for.
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>>37327536
>we've been doing things a certain way in the past, therefore nothing else will ever work
regressive cuck
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>>37327488
Who cares about wars though? Let the muslims destroy each other. At some time it'll blow back on their ass. Europe can die for all I car, Trump just needs to instate his muslim ban.
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>>37327586
status quo isn't regressive. Regressive would be "and we gotta put women back in the kitchen"
If he's just arguing to retain the status quo, that is families raising children. he's not regressive, he is just against a perceived "progress" that may or may not be a good thing. Provide an argument to the contrary as to why the familial system is flawed and has to go don't just call everyone you don't like a "reactionary" or "regressive"
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>>37327068
Except it actually goes the other way around.
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>>37327576
What site is that image from?
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>>37326632
anarcho-communism and communism have the same goal (society without different classes, without money, without a state), but where they disagree is on the means.

communists think it's necessary to create a transitional state to guide things the right direction. anarchists argue that such a state would inevitably fight for its own survival-- the day when the people in charge feel it's time to finally retire the government will never come

the anarchists are probably right
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>>37327639
http://spekr.org/
a bit better than the political compass in my opinion.
of course the best political "compass" site is
http://filteries.com/politics
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>>37327586
Progress for progress' sake is the height foolishness. Hacking away at the literal foundation of society to satisfy your contrarianism without being able to provide a proven alternative is absolute madness, and the fact you can't see that should worry you.
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>>37327660
thanks m89
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>>37327676
capitalism wasn't a proven alternative to anything. it evolved from premises
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>>37327608
It's unnecessary. Sure, family will teach the kid some values, but these values are not necessarily good. And yes, shilling traditional values is very regressive.

Also, marriage is pointless. Most people don't want to dedicate their entire life to only one person, and they shouldn't be forced to do so.
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>>37327676
>Hacking away at the literal foundation of society to satisfy your contrarianism without being able to provide a proven alternative is absolute madness,
>a proven alternative
So, something we've already tried? How will society progress if it never tries anything new? You'll be stuck in a status quo, at best.
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i am not interested in politics
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>>37326226
No one has ever been able to successfully refute this simple image, kek.
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>>37327900
What the hell, Texas?!
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>>37327088
Well I am giving the people here the benefit of the doubt that they are just malevolent and not retarded enough to think that it will actually do good.
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>>37327782
>>37327863
Experimentation is fine in a lab, but you don't fuck with people's lives or the lives of their children. You, and people like you, propose change for change's sake with no regard for how it affects the people around them or the future generations. In fact, it seems that most of the people who propose these sort of ideologies don't even want children. This, to me, is nothing but shameless arrogance. If you want to challenge the basic fabric of society and say that it's inefficient, then show us. Start a family with your alternative values and aesthetics and show us results.

If you can't do that for your own proven philosophy, then how do you expect others to?
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>communism
>((((authoritarian))))
send best ancap memes pls
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>>37325831
Because I don't want to starve to death because I was trying to create a government that is simply not possible.

Also having the government control literally every aspect of your life.

>limited to only growing food since you can't trade and are only limited to what you will use or the state demands.
>The direct democracy/general public still has some authority over you and is by an AnCom's definition a hierarchy.
>Pretty much every country that has tried to become communist has became a failed state. (Don't give me that muh trade sanctions crap, if a capitalist country can survive without trade, then a communist one should do just fine).
>How do you expect to re-distribute the wealth without a big government, as if any rational person would give up there own income.
>No freedom of region besides the communist doctrine.

You could not have wanted a worse system, look the promises of communism are nothing but bait from power hungry people who want to control your life, do not fall for it.

>>37326186
More like the ultimate blue pill. You can never tear down all hierarchical structures because as a species we are never equal, it goes as far as our own genetics. And besides you can never remove your needs and wants.


>>37326249
>State capitalism
AKA what you call a socialist nation after it fails and you want to disassociate with it.

>>37326265
Removing all needs and wants.

Gee how would that be possible, oh I know massive amounts of welfare and social programs.

>>37326417
>American Media

Oh like China's media or any left media in't as fucked up as America's. Besides you should know that most people on 4chan hate mainstream American media.

>>37326459
perhaps talking about socialism online and arguing with leftists on /leftypol/

>>37326980
>Capitalism Equals fucking someone over

Congratulations, you just perfectly matched that info-graph.
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>>37327650
Even if an anarcho-communist nation does manage to start somewhere, what would stop a state from coming into existence to fill the power void? This state could easily hide under some other name, and story containing a scary boogeyman to fool the populace into believing that it is a necessary evil.

As neat as the idea of an anarcho-commie paradise sounds, it doesn't seem to have much ideological staying power. Humans get dumber as the size of their group increases, and the world is very crowded with humans already.
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>>37325904
I AM a bourgeoisie
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>>37328383

To view further AnCap Memes please deposit 1 (You)coin.
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Why would I willingly participate in a political system that was invented by and seeks to benefit Jews
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>>37330482
*deposits*
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>>37330750
don't pull out your 4chan card yet, because here's another
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>>37325831
Because it's literally the most anti-robot ideology
>collectivist
>authoritarian
>no welfare
>forced to work or die
>forced into normie society
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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