mental health deterioration

>>37289697
Yes. I have bad obsessive compulsive disorder. I feel like breaking it is comparable in its difficulty to an nicotine addict quitting smoking.

>>37289697
Just go to a mental hospital for a while. It worked for me.

Check your blood and vitamins. I had brain fog for years and it only went away after I started taking a multivitamin + B12 + Vitamin D daily(one pill per meal). I also take two tablespoons of flaxseed daily(in my breakfast smoothie) for omega 3 and be sure to drink 2L of water a day.

This might seem like normie-tier advice but this is ultimately what saved me.

>>37289697
Well fuck i'm experiencing all but 1 simultaneously.
Didn't even think I was a robot.

>>37289851
Each to their own. I've been eating vitamin rich fruit, take regular doses of iron and vitamin c supplements. Also make sure to sit in sun for at least 15mins per day for vit d and these symptoms still stuck around for the past 3 years

>>37289839
The way things are in my life right now that really is not an option, I should be performing to my highest potential right now. The general direction where my life will be headed will be decided inside a month. Also plenty of little things have also come up to cause me anxiousness, usually they would not be a problem but I am under massive amounts of stress so the effects are multiplied. Though I have been feeling this way even before I was under any kind of pressure so it is not merely that the pressure is getting to me, I feel that it merely amplifies my underlying issues.

>>37289889
B12 dude, unless you eat a lot of grass fed meat or eat the dairy of grass fed animals you're probably deficient. But if you actually want to know what's going on with your body you should get a blood test.

>>37289947
It's never a good fucking time.

If shit isn't going well, it is a very underrated way of getting some help. It also makes it very easy to get into other forms of treatment after.

Maybe you don't need it now but if life gets impossible, it is not the worst thing in the world.

>>37290047
If things ever got so bad that I "could not take it" I would get help. I am fairly stubborn but I am not that stubborn that I would think that I am above being helped. I really just wanted to get a conversation going about little things that can make life and your personal mental health better. I used to actively do sports, I still do some exercise every now and then but I have been trying to find the motivation to do more (though at the moment it's good if I do some real physical activity 1-2 times a month, comparing that there was a time in my life where I had 4 training sessions + a game per week). I used to play football (soccer).

>>37289697
First thing to fix is always diet, exercise, drug use and sleep pattern/routine.

Until you have done that you should not expect to feel like a normal, functional human being.

>>37290231
Also going outdoors is good for mental health, if you have friends then doing something with them would be even better. But just getting outside of the house every now and then helps.

>>37289697
I score 8/11.

I'm about to fail HS and have experience anhedonia & what I would say is depression after a tough rejection. I'm also very lonely. God fucking figure.

I cant visualize anything anymore unless i smoke weed. I feel like dying

>>37290183
I thought you were talking about actual mental illness. These things will not work if you are actually bipolar, have major depressive disorder or whatever else you are worried you might have.

If you have an actual mental illness, advice like "take more vitamins" or exercise, will just prolong suffering.

>>37289697
I'm experiencing all of them. The weird thing is that it all seems normal to me

>>37290629
I was mainly thinking about about people who are supposedly mentally healthy but have noticed "deterioration" in their mental state. Things like those which are listed there and if they are worried that their mental state will deteriorate even further. Mental illnesses like bi-polar disorder and such are a completely different issue. Though people who have actual mental illnesses can also experience improvement or deterioration in their mental wellbeing too (probably much more than people without conditions) so this thread would also apply for them too.

lmfao all of those things describe me

sleep 17 out of every 24 hours

parents still think i'm "normal" and theres "nothing wrong with me" kek

Instant gratification all the time (porn, 4chan and youtube) --> temporary ahedonia --> Crying in your sleep --> Back to hedonism --> Instant gratification all the time --> temporary ahedonia ...

>>37290983
Mental illness can start out gradual. It usually does.

People want to think they are normal, and will be ashamed if they are diagnosed with a disorder. The truth is, it is much more shameful and damaging to live with undiagnosed, untreated mental illness.

There are undoubtedly people out there taking b12, exercising, etc, that have an undiagnosed mental illness; who think that they will fix their lives this way. Then one day they jump in front of a train, or less dramatically, live a miserable life.

I am not saying this specifically applies to you, but I'm sure it will to some who browse this board.

>>37291779
>Mental illness can start out gradual. It usually does
That is what worries me, I was wondering if others were worried about that too.

>>37290859
Have you ever though that you might be going crazy?

>>37289697
>How can we stop this?
HAHAHAHA
There is no fucking cure for mental illness. Maybe you'll get lucky and you'll find a drug that makes you "normal" without unliveable side effects. Sadly I'm not there yet. And it makes me want to scream. I'm trying not to loose it but every time some one says one of the following, "What's wrong with you?", "Everybody feels depressed sometimes", "Grow up already", "You're just lazy", "You should have graduated already", "Why can't you act like an adult", or "The way you feel doesn't make any sense" I feel as though I'm about to blow. I want to scream at them multiple things. How if they are so unhappy with me and the way I am, then why don't they tell me to fucking kill myself because who knows if I'll ever be close to normal.

>>37293307
What I did was research the various drugs that could work for me (bipolar).

Different chemical imbalances result in different kinds of depression. Most antidepressants use Serotonin which helps with more common depression that manifests as general happiness. While dopamine helps with motivation, concentration, and pleasure.

This is just one example, but if you do some research, you can propose the idea to your psychiatrist or whatever.

Doing this makes the drugs less of a crapshoot.

This is how I switched from celexa to wellbutrin. The right medicine can seriously change your life's path.

>>37293818

>Serotonin which helps with more common depression that manifests as general happiness

Err, that manifests in a general decline of happiness.

>>37291779

nah. exercise and b12 is way better than "doctors"

are you suggesting that the "doctors" fix problems?

>>37290266
>>37290231

yep, thats the stuff. honestly.

>>37293885

Fucking crazy right? Who would think that people who study medicine and the mind for a large portion of their lives would know anything?

>>37293818

the "chemical imbalances" theory is largely disproven anon

"doctors" dont really know why most psychiatric drugs work

>>37293971

The problem is that they do actually work.

It is mostly trial and error, but the idea that these drugs do nothing is just absurd.

>>37293971
My doctor says with psych meds it's trial and error. Not every drug will work for every one. And they don't know why that is other than the brain is very complex.

>>37293925

not a fucking thing, anon

specifically "doctors" meaning psychiatrists really do not understand why drugs work.

they might know that certain drugs generally cause certain outcomes, and they may have lots of experience prescribing drugs and monitoring patients (pls keep your lithium monitored lol!), but they dont know how your brain works. no one knows how brains work in general.

if you are bipolar I then lithium probably will work. why it works? fuck if anyone knows

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3712976/

"The history of lithium is a little bit like that of the man who ate the first oyster."

or like if you're schizo, take your chlorpromazine

why it works? fuck if anyone knows. how it was discovered? pure accident

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorpromazine#History

BUT LIKE OUTSIDE OF EXTREME CASES WHERE DRUGS ARE ***NECESSARY***, AVOID THE POISON

TBQH i dont think they really know if SSRIs work...

blame the pharma companies for shilling dangerous crap to people who dont need it.

like pls, pls consider the fucked up american medical system where pharmaceutical sales reps can take doctors out golfing or whatever.....

pls, pls consider the insanity of "OFF LABEL" treatment....

YOU ARE A SUCKER IN MOST CASES IF YOU GO TO A PSYCH AND TAKE THE PRESCRIBED DRUGS. PSYCHS OPERATE LARGELY OFF OF TRIAL AND ERROR AND STATISTICAL MODELS OF DRUG TRIAL. THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW THE DRUGS WORK....

last point:

http://www.vyvanse.com/binge-eating-disorder (meth for amerifats a.k.a. ameristupids)

>>37294072
>>37294122

"trial and error" is not worth fucking with your brain chemistry

do not be a trial subject if you can avoid it anon (unless schizo or highly bipolar)

>>37293818
I tried for about 30 min. I didn't understand it. Too much for my brain to handle. I've been trying SNRIs. They make me feel good mentally but they give me god awful side effects. It's not cool when you have to pee every two hours. Next thing on my list to try is Effexor.

>>37294287
That's what you have to do.
It's the way it works.
I'd rather not be suicidal .

>>37294321

yes, but largely people (ameristupids?) are bought into the mental illness victim culture that convinces them they need all these drugs

if you are mildly depressed you should not take drugs

if you are moderately depressed you should probably not take drugs

if you are suicidal maybe you should take drugs... idk

most people prescribed these HARMFUL drugs do not have severe mental illness. there are GREAT RISKS in these drugs (especially SSRIs and amphetamines)

>>37294289

Look into buproprion. The side effects are generally the opposite of SSRIs/SNRIs.

>>37294386
Yes I'm aware doctors over prescribe drugs. I was diagnosed at age 8. My mom says ever since she can remember I never acted like other kids. I never got joy from things. I had no motivation or desire. My mother tried various treatments and nothing helped me. For me it's genetic. My grandmother was manic depressive and my dad's side of the family has a long history of alcohol abuse and disfuction. Alcoholism can often be an indication of mental illness through self medicating.

>>37294558

angry anon here.

what drugs are you on right now anon? sounds like they probably work for u

>>37294533
I tried wellbutrin when I was 10 or 11 I think (25 years old currently). It gave me really bad tremors so I went to Paxil. Paxil worked great till i was 20. Then I started to slowly deteriorate (for lack of better words).

>>37294386

Obviously most people should not take prescription drugs. But once your depression/anxiety or whatever starts to seriously affect your life, psychiatrists are a good option to improve your life.

I do agree that SS(N)RIs are generally terrible though.

Other options like therapy help, and might even help more in the long run; but medicine can help you now.

>>37294626

Yeah, when adjusting to wellbutrin it can cause headaches. I suffered from them for a while. But I seriously gained a lot of motivation and no longer wanted to jump in front of cars. So I stuck with it.

I imagine the headaches would be much worse as a child. It might be worth a revisit, as it can help reverse the shit side effects of SSRIs.

>>37294577
Currently, Cymbalta 40 mg after I wake up. 20 mg before I go to bed.
60mg all at once made me fucking awesome but made me horribly nauseous and after being on it for 2 months it made me pee every 2 hours. I couldn't live like that. So I break it up. 40 mg after I wake up. 20 mg before I go to bed. But it's not enough. I'm not unhappy but I'm not particularly happy either. I don't care about things. I don't care if I look like shit cause I was too lazy to wash my clothes and I don't care if my hair smells cause bathing requires too much effort. I just don't care about things in general. When before at 60mg all at once I cared about my appearance. I actually started to wear make up again.

>>37289839

God no, please don't unless you're legit suicidal (and secretly don't want to die) or you have hallucinations to the point where you can't tell what is real and what is not.

If you get misdiagnosed, you're gonna be stuck there with no rights.

>>37289697
Educate yourself on anatomy and psychology and try to solve your own problems before letting madmen quack doctors control your life.

>>37294263

Do you think psychiatrists and chemists understand how cocaine and thc work? Which chemicals they release and how they generally affect behavior?

Psychiatrists understand how the medicine works, but how each individual reacts to a specific medicine is where trial and error comes into play.

A good psychiatrist that has experience will narrow the field of drugs much faster than a nurse practitioner. It really matters where you go for treatment.

>>37295341
Unfortunately I'm not intelligent enough to understand certain medical mumbo jumbo even though I think it's fascinating.

>>37294758

Yeah, I'm talking about people who are legit suicidal. Or hallucinating.

Obviously the kid whose girlfriend just dumped him or whatever will not benefit from an inpatient stay at a ward.

>>37289697
Last night i snapped and started throwing shit everywhere saying really violent and wrathful things that id do to everyone in the world.
What exactly is this a sign for?

>>37295383
>I'm not intelligent enough
Even if you have a dictionary plugin for your browser so that you can actually understand things? or wat

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im starting to talk to myself more and get lost in the internal conversations easier.eg. washing dishes and i just blank out and starts saying things under my breath that relate to whatever situation im remembering like "why" or"stop".
also very irritable and driving alone is basically just a string of obscenities punctuated by turning

>>37295404
I have never spoken to myself but I do get lost in stories that I come up with in my mind. Though I do always know they are stories since I just come up with them for fun.