Stop being an atheist.

Believing in god will make your produce more dopamine in your lifetime because you anticipate being sent to heaven when you die as a reward for your good deeds.

>>37196444
Yes. But to be able to achieve this you need to truly believe in a God and an Afterlife which can be very difficult if you weren't indoctrinated from birth.

>>37195593
Ya'll actually read this guys stuff? His concept of god is not the christian god. It's funny seeing fundies hold him up as some kind of champion for their cause, he's not a christian or a creationist and his concept of god is very abstract.

>>37195593
then convince me of the existence of god

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Any argument for religion on this website always centers around the personal and societal benefits of it. Which is all well and good and might be true, the problem is that God(s) doesn't exist unfortunately. It a shame that one little thing can bring down every single point that religious people have.
>but religion gives people morals
okay but god doesn't exist
>but atheist people don't have a higher cause to live for
okay but god doesn't exist
>but our degenerate society is caused by the decline in religious morals
okay but god doesn't exist
>but atheism is edgy and fat people with bad fashion like it
okay but god still doesn't exist
Of course arguing that someone should "be religious" is different from arguing that they should believe in god, it's still a prerequisite though and nothing will change the fact that no matter how beneficial religion might be and how much better off a person will be for following it, they're all untrue and no logical person can bring themselves to believe any of them.

>>37196737
Shut up, you fucking idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about. Get out of my thread now.

>>37196737
you are really dumb lol ^_^

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>>37196768
What are you gonna do about it, huh little bitch boy?

>>37196768
>>37196785
not an argument :^)
prove the existence of your god of choice and i'll believe it

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>>37195593
How do I start believing if I don't have any faith in existence of god here and now? I'd only be a hypocrite.

>>37196444
>>37196479
>>37196588
>>37196833
"Willing to appear openly to those who seek him with all their heart, and to be hidden from those who flee from him with all their heart, God so regulates the knowledge of himself that he has given indications of himself which are visible to those who seek him and not to those who do not seek him. There is enough light for those to see who only desire to see, and enough obscurity for those who have a contrary disposition."
-Blaise Pascal

>>37195593
If I believed in the abrahamic god, I'd worship the devil.

If I could pick a religion, my behavior wouldn't change, cause I'd be buddhist, Hindu, Shinto, or a believer in a dead religion.

>>37196924
Sounds like god really is okay with letting people be tortured for infinity. Not that eternity in heaven is better.

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>>37196737

Dear young child - god (for lack of a better term) is real. Reveals to people who need that and are open to it. If you don't, good for you. Or bad for you, depending on perspective.

I could actually prove it to you. But that's where the phrase "pearls before swine" comes in.

As far as organized religion, it's used to propagate one's own culture, which is pretty much bad, and that's what dimwitted atheists see. But it also offers comfort to people.

Really, I used to be like. I was an arrogant, dimwitted dink. And I was wrong. It was very humbling, but being humbled like that is not really a bad thing.

But yeah. Could explain it to you, and prove there is something watching over us, but why should I? You seem like an extreme douche bag, so why would I give you that gift?

>>37196943

Hell is a Christian concept. Don't put that shit on the Creator of the Universe.

>>37196943
In my humble opinion, the Christian notion of eternal punishment is simply wrong. There is punishment, but it is not eternal. God, as all-loving, all-powerful, and all-good, has endless mercy (Grace) for His fallen souls.

>>37197014
This.

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>>37196951
>i can prove that god exists, i just don't WANT to!
Godcucks grasping at straws like always.
I already understand the inner workings of the entire universe so there's no way for me to be humbled. It sounds like you're not a christian at least but one of those "hurr durr i discovered my own spirituality" special snowflakes, if anything that makes you even more retarded for not being indoctrinated but still somehow falling for the meme anyway. Go ahead and prove it to me, I'll give you a throwaway email if you don't want to do it here. Might be a good laugh.

>>37197014
>>37197042
If you don't believe in a christian god then why the fuck do you believe in a personal omni-benevolent deity, when deism requires less stupidity.

>>37196479
>Tfw I don't know whether I believe in God or not.
I think I do, but I'm not sure if my belief is genuine.

>>37196924
"Cognitive bias"
-Blaise Pascal

>>37197089
To tell you why I believe what I believe I would need to tell you about my entire life

>>37197115
The same quote would serve as a reply to this post

>>37196737
This is the ultimate redpill right here. Morality has to evolve to fit the new metaphysical norm or risk dying out with the superstitions it has saddled itself to. Any argument around "why it's better to believe in god" ignores the fact that god isn't real. You cant force someone to LARP as a believer, and judging by the angry responses it seems you've hit a nerve.

>>37196951
>ur dum
>I use to be dum but nao I not
>I cud make u not dum but no ur dum
Wow. Riveting arguments.

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>christcucks saying that if I'm not with them I'm against them
I'm not an atheist in the sense that I'm not a member of a faction trying to actively disprove god. I don't own a fedora. I just don't believe.
But obviously it fits into religious people's rhetorical frame to try shaming anyone who isn't part of their clique.

>>37197247
It's just americans who are unable to comprehend not living in a country that's almost 100% religious, and don't understand that being atheist is the default state to be born into.
That being said, anyone who tries to "disprove" god using "evidence" like contradictions in the bible is a faggot who does truly believe but is just trying to be edgy, because to anyone else the concept is so laughable that it isn't even worth arguing against.

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>>37197060

>You seem like an extreme douche bag, so why would I give you that gift?

You didn't make a very appealing case. I'll give you two hints. The first is the image I posted. The second is Joseph Campbell's so-called "monomyth." But I do this in jest. If you had the combined intellect of Einstein, Newton, and Bud Bundy, you couldn't figure it out on your own (lord knows Campbell didn't, and he spent his entire life on it). You're probably going to live your whole life in ignorance and darkness.

Sorry not sorry.

The story of Adam and Eve is about loss of innocence.

They live in paradise. All their needs are taken care of, and they'll never die.

Gosh - that almost sounds like a child's life, doesn't it? (though kids will die, they surely spend less time worrying about than adults do)

So when they are kicked out of paradise they are simply becoming adults.

Lot of wisdom in these old myths and stories, if you've got the right kind of eyes.

>>37196951
>But it also offers easy comfort
>That's why I believe now
Wow you admitted it yourself.

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>>37197320
Haha you pretentious faggot, you really think that if you "tease" me with your vague bullshit and say that I wouldn't understand, I'm supposed to feel like you know more than I do? Either give us something hard to work with or fuck off. Saying that you have an argument but just don't want to use it is not an argument in itself like you seem to think it is.

>>37196737
I do get annoyed with that, I always hate the question of "Why would you want to believe there's no god?". It comes across as if I'm being asked why would I want to think that childhood cancer is real. Most people that are somewhat self aware atheists probably wish there was an afterlife but don't see any significant evidence so they don't think there is one. They understand though that wishing something to be true doesn't make it true though.

>>37197207
For some reason many people would rather shackle morality to the sinking ship that is religion, rather than develop morals that are independent of it. Almost as if the only reason they can think to be a good person is the fear of punishment. If we keep going at this rate then people are going to feel very lost in the near future.

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>>37197423

I'm pretentious, says the child who honestly believes he knows better than 95% of the billions and billions of people who have ever lived.

Sane belief: Everyone on Earth is deluded in the same exact way, except for me and tiny fraction of the population because we're so smart, and because I'm so smart I spend my time boasting about my greatness on that intellectual hub 4Chan, with a bunch of racist morons who beat off to an ugly girl on a bad soft-core porn British soap opera and voted for Trump.

I'm not teasing you. You're calling people names like an arrogant jackass because of something I KNOW you're wrong about. I would never believe in something without proof, which is why I didn't until I was given it.

Use logic: If I'm telling the truth and am right, how do you think I would respond to your childishness? Kind of like how I am?

"Hey kid, I was like that too. Sorry to tell you, you're wrong."

"Duhhh"

"Okay. Have fun with that. Buh bye."

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>>37197600
>f-fucking drumpfies! ;~;

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>>37197600
Show proof then fuckhead.
I KNOW you can't because there's no such thing. You said yourself
>I would never believe in something without proof
yet you expect other people to believe you just because you said it? If you're telling the truth and am right then you would respond the way that you are... but you would also respond that way if you were a dumb fuck getting defensive about his beliefs that he desperately holds onto because he's a weak-minded faggot. I love how you think that because you're steadfast in your beliefs then it must be because you know the truth... even though I'm reacting in the same way and you don't apply the same logic to me.
POST EVIDENCE OR FUCK OFF YOU DUMN NIGGER

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>>37197677
>Uses anime in an argument
I see what you did there, but they're not smug.

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Daily reminder there are no sound arguments for God's existence.

Daily reminder there are sound arguments against God's existence (e.g. Rowe's evidential argument from evil)

>>37196737
Boi, you really rustled the religious cucks jimmies

>>37196737
>>37198090
What this basically boils down to is that
1. No one on this board has had sex so if they pretend a religion that pushes celibacy is real then they can feel justified and even morally superior
2. Since no one on this board has had or will ever have sex their only hope is an afterlife that will give them a wife while they continue to be their repulsive selves

>>37198541
>projecting this hard
And religious people are the delusional ones.

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>>37196812
Prove that a higher power doesn't exist, cucklestein.

>>37198564
I'm sorry, the only other explanation is that you're retarded. I guess I gave you too much credit.

>>37198776
The burden of proof is on you, friendo

>>37196737
"Religion" is just a code of morals and the "God" part is for the stupider people to believe in.

>>37198794
Oh wow you sure got me

Nice evidence, fucktard

>>37198874
>I found a way to be a fencesitter to feel superior to both sides!
This is your brain on Gaytheism

>>37198897
>I found a way to be a fencesitter to feel superior to both sides!

I was making the argument against hard social atheism. The main benefits from religion are what people do, not what "God" does anyway. Why are you so obsessed with there being a god?

>>37198957
Why are you so obsessed with trying to feel superior?

who created god????

checkmate fucking bible sluts

atheists btfo!!

sdfsfs

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why pick a side lol

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>>37201567
DUDE

AGNOSTICISM

>>37196737
i appreciate you making this post but it was really bad

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>>37201613
>DUDE I'M A PSEUDO INTELLECTUAL.

>>37197060
When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.
You think you're so smart understanding the inner workings of the universe when really you know nothing.
You have eyes, but you do not see, ears but you do not hear.

You seem like the person to base your beliefs on logic, the laws of nature and physical substance.
A law of chemistry - with EVERY chemical reaction there is the exact same amount of matter before and after. Tell me then, how can a universe made of matter come into existence from nothing. Everything has a beginning, the universe cannot have just always been in existence without a creator. Before you say "who created god". God is eternal, he is not bound by the laws of this world, he is not of flesh. Explaining all aspects of God and giving proof is impossible for humans. How can we prove that which we do not fully understand?
The human brain has very minor differences to that of primates, but in turn has inexplicably greater functionality. Look at how much insight, intellect, emotional capacity we have compared to apes. To this day there has not been a single researcher able to find what makes us so different, when our brains are almost identical.
I could make a whole list, but nothing can change a proud heart except the power of Christ.
We Christians know though, god has given us a soul, which he has not given animals.
Seek and you shall find, knock and the door shall be opened. If it's knowledge you seek, start by humbling yourself before God and he will open your eyes and the veil of this world will be lifted.
God bless

>>37198957
If you knew the truth and the gravity of what will happen to non believers after this life... My friend, you would be ashamed to ask a question like that

i wish I could believe in God but I just really can't
It isn't a choice or some shit I just
Don't believe
I'm not trying to insult those who do believe or say that 'lol believing in God is ridiculous' or something either

>>37195593
I am 100% sure the Judeo-Christian-Islamic concept of God does not exist.

>>37203487
You don't have to believe, all you have to do is make an effort to seek him, he will do the rest. Pray and ask him to to show you the way. If you know any Christians, I suggest maybe telling one how you feel.
But you have to genuinely WANT to believe, if you are willing, then so is God

>>37203607
Okay, prove right here, right now that God does not exist. If you are 100% sure, then without a doubt you have proof

>>37203850
I've tried in the past, but got nothing.
>Inb4 you didn't REALLY try
also god wouldn't like me anyways im a fag

>>37203926
How exactly did you try? For how long?
>also god wouldn't like me anyways im a fag
He doesn't like your ways, but he most definitely loves you

>20XX
>not swallowing the #ff0000-ruby-inferno-vermillion-cinnabar-scarlet-crimson-pill
>Hermes Trismegistus

>>37204012
Many times in my life I've tried being spiritual (praying, reading through holy text, etc.) and it just... never really 'stuck' with me I guess

>>37203879
Don't tell me what to do. I am in fact 100% sure though.

>>37204065
If you were doing those things as good deeds to win God's favour so he would show himself in that way, but not doing it sincerely. Then you're not gonna get much out of it.
Also its not something you do once, then continue your life for a while, then remember again.
If you really want to seek God you will persist till he reveals himself.
Just like when you want something in life.
I believe it's fair to assume you persist in things you really want?
If you're willing to persist for worldly things, but not as much in the search for God, then you're undermining him and seeing him as a fragment of your life and not the goal.
After all, he created us, we owe him much.
I'm going to sleep now btw, but I'm praying for you man!
And if anyone ever tells you God hates fags, they are being hypocrites. Every person has done sins they would never dare to tell a soul.

>>37204165
Okay get your fact and fuck yourself 100% with it

>>37204768
That wasn't a very Christian thing to say. Repent.

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Reminder.
originello

Logicially you can prove the existence of something greater. For example, matter cannot be created or destroyed. Therefore, there leaves two options, we've always existed or something created us. We haven't always existed, every is dependent on something. Something always has something responsible for it. In other words, something was created/caused by something else. If you keep going to the line further and further, you'll reach something that is responsible for all things. What is that? I don't know, all I know it is something that is far greater than any of us and capable of more than we could imagine.

>>37205216
>Don't tell me what to do. I am in fact 100% sure though

That wasn't a very smart thing to say.
I guess we all have our flaws kek

>people refuse to believe in things that there's no evidence for
>logic 101 triggers the christcuck

No.

This is somehow going to be an original post.

>>37196737
I wonder how many atheists ever read the Bible, let alone consider the possibility of being open to the posibility.

You just need to ask to God to show himself, read about Him and be open to Him....

>>37197363
It's more than that; It's about the ways of God, of His Good character and lovingkindness and righteousness and about the origin and definition of Sin.

And the Sin before that original Sin.
Have you ever wondered what Sin actually is?

It's an action? or an state of being? Sin is this: To be in defiance against God Will; To disobey God.

>>37196737
Tip harder faggot.
>god doesn't exist
Prove it
>inb4 burden of proof maymay
Fuck off, you are the one asserting that God doesn't exist.

>>37204065
Just be honest ,ask him to reveal Himself to you and wait for Him.

Ask and you shall receive; for it is according to God's Will that you may know Him.

You should just stop being niggers and learn to cooperate.

There is no way to prove god is or isn't real period. So why continue fighting about it?

>>37201613
>There could be something in the box, there could not be something in the box, lets find out
You thick cunt.