Is committing suicide worth it? Would there really be an afterlife?

Suicide is only an option if you've got rock bottom, not if yoyre going forward, dumbass.

>>37163010
I don't think so. I'm hitting rock bottom emotionally. Just because I have other 'good' things going on does not mean I'm happy.

>>37162962
If you're not sure, the answer is no.

>>37163040
anon, the past is the past. You're moving on in life and you can find some more things to want. Unless it was serious adolescent abuse or mental trauma you can always move on or talk to a therapist. Letting it all out to do some actually helps. Just know you won't be fixed you'll just know how to get over it. If you're not happy because you don't have EVERYTHING you want to have then you should actually consider giving it all up to see how good you had it. Just stay in your room all day from this day on and see how fast you'll consider suicide losing everything you have.

if i put a shotgun in my mouth at like 45 degrees upwards with 00 buckshot will that make me dead instantly?

>>37163238
Kek
/k/ gave me that exact advice
Either there or behind the ear
Was wondering the same with a .44

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>>37162962
look man im going to give you some genuine advice here ok, not like some of these other bullshiters becuase ive been here for years now. here's the deal you are afraid to integrate into the ""real world"" but its really not that hard and at some point we all have to do it you need to keep you'reself busy. get a ""wagecuck"" job and keep busy and start doing things you like to do. seriously it all comes down to fear but fear is only an illusion that you make it out to be. you can do it anon

>>37162962
>Is committing suicide worth it?
Ask a dead man.

>>37163238

You want instant? Here's what you should do.

* Go into politics
* Work your way up through the ranks, to be elected president.
* Restart nuclear testing
* Go to watch the first test
* Give orders that the detonation must happen at a specific time, no matter what.
* Sneak away from your handlers
* Sneak into the test site
* Hug the warhead as it goes off.

>>37162962
Don't do it. Don't make an irreversible decision to a temporary problem. Please find some help like a therapist. People care about you

>>37162962
Do it. It's not like you will regret it later. You'll be dead, you won't know anything.
Soon enough I'll be joining you, friend.

>Live in the most liberal/ progressive times
>Killing your baby is progressive
Yet when someone wants to end it everyone gets so butthurt. Why cant I just tell my friends and family, "hey life isnt for me so I'm going to end it" and be done with it? I would have ended it by now but knowing my family will be triggered stops me. (See that infamous webm of the little girl screaming when she found her dead brother or whatever) Fuck I just want leave this world. I'm tired of living out the first half of full metal Jacket over and over again.

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>>37163280
this is some bullshit anon, dont listen to this fag, do this, like i said find a job even if its degrading and just do it there are no normies there are no societal structures against you you need to keep busy get a job go to indeed.com and pick a job any job and keep busy and enjoy the money you make. its youres and you earned it. the computer will not be infront of you forever my man you need to get out there its not that hard and i know it can be scary but you can do it im about to get an IT degree and i lost a lot of weight all you need to do is focous dont take big steps take small steps do something small like brush teeth and walk every day its all a mental meme. i believe in you.
here : "For i know the plans i have for you says the lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you says the lord plans to give you hope for the future" - Jarahmiah 29:11
i live by this every single fucking day. i know i will get a ot of hate for this but i am reaching out to you just look up the verse this is not by chance i was meant to come across you on here tongiht anon we can even discord if you would like >>37162962

>>37163317
>Don't make an irreversible decision to a temporary problem
This sentiment is always repeated in every suicide discussion, but it has a striking fallaciousness about it. How can you tell OP's problem is temporary? For most of /r9k/, our symptom is severe depression, and our cause is damaged brain chemistry and undesirable genetics. Both of which are permanent in most cases.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a permanent problem.

>>37163266
>>37163203
I'm too scared to talk to someone. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me but I know paranoia is one of them, I cannot trust anyone. Everyone I ever opened up to betrayed me or used it against me. I know therapists can't do this but I have this crazy idea that they will tell everyone and make me look like a fool in front of the whole world. I tried wagecucking for two weeks and couldn't handle it from the anxiety. I try to distract myself but at the end of the day my past haunts me. I was abused for 8 years. Some nights I can't sleep from the flashbacks I get. I just feel like my life is over. I'm mentally crippled and unstable. Only thing keeping me going are the voices I talk to. I have no doubt I'm schizophrenic. There is no point living anymore like this, but I can't get the fucking courage. I wish I had enough money to hire someone to do the work for me.

>>37163266
Complete bullshit advice there anon, the "real world" you speak of isn't the "real world" at all. It's all manufactured now, synthetic, packaged up and sold to you for a nominal fee of course and everyone's happy to spend their lives trying to stockpile little slips of paper, that which determines your worth as a human being. It's fucking maddening and anything but real. Get out with your normie advice, just because you can't see the bars to your cage doesn't mean that we can't.

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>>37162962
we do not know what this anon human has as potential here this place is an echo chamber of negative thoughts and self pity i think anon here can get himself out i belive in him i really fucking do and i will stay on this thread until i get a reply
here is a song for you anon :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmTmTMcdxOs
heres another song : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnTZa4FY_7I
this is for you anon

>>37163368
I've never been on discord. Do I need to make an account?

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>>37163422
normie normie normie thats all you guys talk about is normie normie normie i made it out of here and ive been here since 2006 he can do it i was faced with the same problems at his age he can do it and i belive in him 100% anything worth having is worth fighting for i

>>37163413
then go to a doctor and tell him about all that. Mental instability has been treatable for a while.

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>>37163360
>>37162962

Save a spot for me too.

I don't think I can go on for much longer like this

>>37163412
But the thing is that you don't know. Even if it is a permanent problem, you can do things to cope with it. There's no telling what will happen in the future. Suicide is a permanent solution to a problem that might be less permanent than you think

>>37163457
you do my man but if you do not we can just talk here my man, ignore all the other fags and just talk with me man i wont leave i promise

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>>37163426
That's sweet anon. But at the same thing I hate this. Why the fuck do people only say things like this when I say I want to die? Where the fuck are people before they caused so much damage to me? Humanity is full of hypocrites. I guarantee you if you met me in person you wouldn't give me the time of your day. No one ever does. Fucking normies.

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>>37162962
>>37163475
both of you can make it it just takes time i am an old fag who comes back here to talk some sense into you younglings it does take courage and you can do it and i think both of you can achive great things : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhx6IfKrvEQ

>>37163539
>it it just takes time

I've given it 9 years.

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>>37163535
i used to think the same thing my man its a mental game and this place is not good there are no ""normies" people here just say that because they themselves are both jealous and angry at THEMSELVES

>>37163560
Same here. Life just gets worse. Fuck everyone else that gives us false hope.

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>>37162962
look at this video he is NOT CHAD he is a great motivational channel on youtube and i listen to you all the time you should look at this video my man all of this is a mental game>>37163475

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>>37162962
>>37163475
>>37163587
all three of you need to watch this video man, its good and it should help you all its great it helped me lose almost 200 pounds and get two jobs and A COMPUTER SCIENCE DEGREE :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56c1DBhLVYA

>>37163368
I have a job. I still want to end my life daily. In fact Im more suicidal then when I was a NEET.

>>37163539
Ahh the time heals wounds meme. Complete bullshit. My depression has gotten worse as the years go by. (It has been about 6 years of off and on depression)
Also that guy you posted is a giant prick. He has a video where he shits on people who say childhood is better then adult life then proceeds to project his positive life onto everyone. "hurr Im self employed and got a GF my life rox!" Meanwhile I'm a 21 yo virgin who wishes he wouldn't wake up in the morning.

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>>37163664
>>37162962
you can do it anons you can do it i think you can do it if you need to get another job than so be it !!! find another job i work two jobs and im still trying to break into myfeild : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyhOmBPtGNM

Does anyone know what happens when you go to a hospital for suicidal thoughts? When will they let you go home?

>>37163617
This guy sounds like a douche. Why would I take advice from Chad?

Nobody can tell you whether or not there's an afterlife. Based on what we can observe there's absolutely no evidence for it. If you want to do it shoot yourself in the soft palate with a 12ga.

>>37163741
Mandatory 72 hours
Take your stuff away until they seem you safe enough to not harm yourself
Therapist person talks to you to determine if you need to stay longer or not
Think that's it

>>37163791
What about .44!!!!!

>>37163741
Some hospitals have intensive outpatient program where you are allowed to go home to sleep. Usually, inpatient programs are for very severe situations and the length of stay varies. Don't be afraid to get help. Inpatient stays can be scary, but it could be life-saving

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>>37163791
fuck you
>>37162962
anon this is a choice that is entirely up to you and i have 1000000000% confidence that you will not kill yourself and that you will rise to the accession and kill it my man ! i will leave you with one last thing i want you to watch because it has helped me so fucking much its not even funny how much this video has helped me life has its ups and downs : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXvEcBKMT8
i listen to this when i work out and you need to belive you can do it you are PHENOMINAL anon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXvEcBKMT8

>>37163794
>>37163848
Have you been to one? Is it expensive? Will they give me good food and be friendly? I would like to just keep my laptop at least. I've heard they sometimes treat you like shit which would only make me feel worse.

>>37163874
I will watch them. Thank you anon. You're a good guy. If only I had a friend like you long ago.

Suicide is not about the afterlife it's about ending your current life and stopping the pain, if you don't get that then you are not suicidal. Some people just want the end the bullshit and stop living, they are not happy and wish they were dead. I understand that, ending the pain and going to sleep and never having to wake up, it seems like such a beautiful thing to me but I just can't do that and hope I die soon in real life like a man. Smoke lots, drink lots and hope it happens soon.

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>>37163901
you will be great anon you will be great i want you to murmer that you yourself in the the dark room you are in right now infront of a lit screen i want you to say i am great i want you to say i am unstopable i want you to say fuck em

>>37163878
I haven't, but I know some stuff about the system. All of that really depends on the hospitals. My best piece of advice would be to research local hospitals and find out what their protocol is.
Don't let the fear of the image of a mental hospital deter you. I've only heard good from people who have been hospitalized for these things. Look for a hospital and do it. It could save your life.

>>37163970
That's sweet. I'll try it.

>>37163617

stop trying to fool me, it's not going to work

>>37163874
is this some kind of ironic shit posting? If you are being insincere with these posts I wish the most painful death upon you.

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>>37162962
heres another song for you anon you can do it man >>37164033
this is not ironic i am 100% serious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YAVn466YBc

>>37163874
I'm not OP, but thank you so much anon.
I don't know what's up but I'm having one of the worst nights of my life. I feel like such a piece of shit, and I regret being alive. I don't know what I'm doing here or why I'm going on
but this is helping a lot
I'm going to start exercising, and I'm going to really push to get a job.
I might not be who I want, or really ever have the life I've always wanted
and I might always be lonely, I'll never be with the type of girl I've always dreamed of, but I'm going to make myself a better person
I have severe asthma, so I've never really exercised or done really any physical labor. I've never been fat but I disgust myself. i really hate myself, but I think if I work hard I might become decent
at least decent enough to not disappoint my family forever

thank you

>>37163904
I wonder what percentage of people who have committed suicide believed in some sort of afterlife. It makes me really sad that I won't exist one day and I really want to live forever so I can keep watching my animes ;_;

>>37163874
>posts EMINEM to get robots out of suicidal depression

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>>37164101
Christ you sound like such a normie. I bet you have a gf, good circle of friends, stable job, stable mentality, frequent sex, etc. I'm sorry but you cannot possibly understand me.

>>37162962
No, it isn't. Make your mark on the world. Don't be a coward.

>>37163878
Haven't
Depends on insurance
Depends on location, the more expensive = the better quality
Will probably take it away for first 24-48 hours to make sure that you are ok or sane enough to use it
Again depends on loc, try looking up reviews of each one?

>>37164111
i just don't know if it's worth it
no matter what I do, I'm just ugly. My face is so childish and my hair goes from a natural mullet to an afro
I have scoliosis. It's not severe, but i'm crooked. I hate it. I'm unsightly.
I don't think even getting fit and really trying can fix me. I'm just awful.
even if we go past my appearance, I don't know how to have any sort of social interaction. If I don't know someone I stutter and barely talk, I'm such a loser. and when I get close to anyone how cynical and depressed I am comes out and they leave me

i don't know what to do
I don't know if it's worth it to even exist

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>>37164141
Fuck you. I'm not a fucking coward. I've handled years of abuse and self-harm, and you have the audacity to call me a coward. People like you are the reason for my distaste in humanity.
>Make your mark on the world
What fucking mark when I'm mentally fucked, disgusting, unlovable, etc. Sure, let me just go start a business or become Chad and have everyone love me! Because it's that fucking easy anon! FUCK YOU ASSHOLE EAT SHIT

>>37164204
I don't know you, but I can tell you that anyone who can get out of an abusive situation is strong. You're no coward

>>37164174
I just looked up reviews in my area and they all have 2.5/5 stars or less. Reviews of them finding bugs in the food, mold in the facility, heartless staff, all the things I fear. I just want some fucking help. What's the fucking point anymore. Can't even get a good institution near me.

>>37164141
>Make your mark on the world
Complete meme. Nobody in this thread will be remember in 200 years.


I wish I could have a conversation with someone in this thread but I just keep getting memed on with ironic forced positivity bullshit. HURR check out this banging eminem track. I'm putting heart into my posts and nobody cares, they will just keep shitposting. Just another reason to end it.

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>tfw found a lady selling a shotgun in my town for fairly cheap
It's almost time robots, good luck op.

>>37164249
Fucking thank you. I may not be strong but I'm not a damn coward.

>>37164267
how much are we talking? i only have 250 in my savings

>>37164254
Expand your search area. Don't stop until you find something. Don't give up

>>37164255
This. I've already heard the same bullshit for years and nothing fucking helps. No one understands what it's like. I don't even fucking like Eminiem.

>>37164308
I'll try but at this point I will need to travel far just to get some help. I already searched from 1-3 hours away from me. I just live in a shitty state. I heard California has the best places and that's 10 hours away. Maybe someday.

>>37163413

If you haven't exhausted literally every option you should keep trying. Just saying. If you're gonna be dead you might as well try SSRIs and therapy first.

>>37164114

We know a lot about aging atm (see DNA damage and DNA repair) just not how to fix it. We may get some decent life extension therapies in the next few decades. We won't live forever but we might live a long time.

>>37164359
Well, the fact you are looking for help is a huge step. I wish you the best of luck.

>>37164296
350.

The online marketplace i'm looking at has shotguns for less, but depending on where you live it may not be covienent. On the other hand if you can pass a background check (I can't) your options are expanded greatly.

>>37164254
Anon, psych hospitals are glorified prisons ment for punishing drug overdoses, suicide attempts and the like.

People seriously looking to recover from mental illnesses have nothing to gain from places like those.

>>37164567
Then what the fuck do I do. I'm running out of options here. I can't leave me dog.

>>37164605
Dunno if you posted earlier or not but why not look for a therapist? The one I was forced to have was pretty nice. Never told him the truth, but he was a cool guy

>>37164605
Don't fall for the mental hospital stereotype. Keep looking and things will look up from there. Have you tried the suicide prevention hotline? They could possibly help

>>37164651
>Therapist
>Paying some one to tell you to do obvious things

>>37164660
>Suicide Prevention Hotline
>They usually just end up calling the cops on you if you dont feel non suicidal by the end of the call.

>>37164660
Yeah OP, call the suicide hotline and get forced to go to one of the hospitals you looked at earlier with the awful customer reviews for a week. Great plan there.

>>37164651
It makes me uncomfortable I guess. Pouring my heart out to a stranger. I also hate driving.
>>37164660
I heard they just hear about your problems without actually helping. I already vent when I'm here.

>>37164727
Ok then. I would at least consider a therapist. Just having someone is incredibly relieving. I understand how hard it is. I'm incredibly paranoid about opening up, but opening up to a therapist was the best decision in my life

>>37164793
How much does it cost you? And how often do you see them?

>>37164873
Therapy can be expensive, which is the part that sucks. It can sometimes be $75 an hour. There are options though. If you are in school/uni, there might be a social worker. Some therapists might even offer a discount, it really depends.
This site has much more info:
https://www.talkspace.com/blog/2015/10/how-much-does-therapy-cost-and-why-is-it-crazy-expensive/
As for schedule, it's pretty variable. Most often, it's once a week, but it can often be adjusted to your needs

Is anyone else here just uninterested in life? I workout almost daily, I have hobbies, I don't think I'm ugly, I don't care that I'm virgin/never had a gf, but daily life is just so draining and there's constant financial stress. I don't think it's worth it to keep slaving away.
I don't enjoy my free time enough to warrant being miserable at a job for the majority of my life. I don't like dealing with people but it's impossible to avoid. This post took me like 10 minutes to type just because I keep pausing and thinking. I recently turned 21 but I didn't even feel like celebrating buying my first drink or whatever. I don't like spending money so I just eat whatever shit I can put together at home rather than going out to eat.
I'm just so TIRED of everything.

>>37162962
>Would there really be an afterlife?
if there was an afterlife, your issues might just follow you there

>>37164184
for the scoliosis, get it checked out, its repairable. If you dont want to talk to anyone, look up some exercises to maybe help.

as for social interaction, join online gaming communities and make friends in discord servers. its the best way to learn to interact with people. that way you're dealing with strangers off the internet, and if you feel you fucked up you can "reset" by leaving that community and trying with a new one.

>>37165091
aspire to be an entrepreneur. If you work for someone else, you always feel like you're doing the same thing, and making the same amount of money. If you work for yourself the work and money feels like its "yours" rather than making it for mr. goldberg. It gave me a bit of drive but I don't make enough money yet.

Even if you have no social life, there's a lot of great new tv, movies, games, books, etc coming out all the time. Plus waifu bots, A.I. waifus, virtual reality waifus around the corner, etc. Even someone on disability could save up money for at least one of these things.

>>37165091
I am. To top it off though, I've started losing interest in my hobbies. I struggle to enjoy vidya, I never read anymore, I dropped MTG entirely, and I care even less about TV/Movies than I did before and find them more stupid than usual. I don't see the point. 60 more years of struggling to enjoy things while simultaneously having put up with constant stress and things I hate? No thank you. Looking forward to the day I kill myself.

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fucking world being shit to men wtf.

>>37166730
This makes me so fucking angry. I hate women more than anything.

>>37165091
>>37166707

Lack of feeling is a sign of depression. A lot of people are under the impression you have to feel like shit and sad all the time if you're depressed, but feeling nothingness and being unable to enjoy stuff you used to like can be depression. If you feel nothing but at the same time want to die, then..

I can't get into videogames, books, movies, series. I feel nothing when being around people (my family). I have no friends and have no interest in making any. The thought of dying makes me feel relaxed and I enjoy reading about suicide, suicide letters etc

>>37162962
>I've been contemplating suicide for the past few weeks
Weeks? Try a few years. It'll either get better by then or then you at least know shit ain't going nowhere.

Protip: There is no afterlife. After you die you return to the same state you were in before you were born, not knowing if you had ever lived at all. So no matter how shit this life might be, you might as well see it through because this is all you'll ever get, good and bad included.

>>37166947
>enjoy reading about suicide, suicide letters etc
I do this. I've become obsessed with everything suicide related.