What kind of circumcision do you have

>>37115590
i have none because i'm not an american

>>37115590
Low and loose

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>tfw the last 2" of your p0nis are a big scar

Thanks, jews

>normal circumcision

this meme is criminal. deepest apologies, infant mutilated fags

>>37115590
http://chirb.it/vInD9A

>>37115679
Cut at birth here. Why was my penis so much more sensitive as a child? I have a memory of being in a bumpy road and telling the family "it tickles my wee-wee!" My dick isn't ticklish these days.

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Low and tight, OP?

I also got a low and tight cut--pretty much the lowest, tightest cut possible. No inner mucosa, no frenulum, and everything left fused together in one straitjacketed mass.

Fuck this world.

>>37115892
Keratinization.

none because I'm not a kike, paki, or American

>>37115892

As we age, some of our nerve endings die away. People lose sensitivity as they get older.

Of course guys cut at birth lots a fuckload of nerve endings right from the get go.

This shit legit makes me want to kill myself

HOW do people still think this is fine?

WHY would my parents do this to me?

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>>37115590
High and tight masterrace reporting in. Pic related.

None because I'm not contracted to serve the Jew god. See Genesis 17. You're all owned by the Jew god.

>>37116011
>>37115916
Thank God... I mean THANK GOD my mom stopped my dad from getting me circumcised.

>>37116011
>well.... at least i can clean my dick easier.......

>>37116089
>I may have no teeth, but at least I can brush my gums easier.

>>37115590
Circumcision is a barbaric act

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>>37116008

Get ready to REEE, anon. Pic related.

>>37116138
This is so fucking stupid, what's wrong with these people

>>37116011
And that guy actually has a pretty big dick.
If his retarded jew parents didn't mutilate it he would probably have a really successful love life and be happy with life in general.
So sad.

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>"It's easier to wash."

>>37116138
any time someone says this shit to you just remind them that women who have underwent FGM think the same fucking thing. it's not that bad, it's tradition, etc.

>>37115590
None because God was merciful.

Above average too! Kind of sad though because I got Tyson's glands.

fembot, full disclosure

i've had sex with 2 men in my life. one natural, one cut. i love them both to this day.

natural guy is self conscious about his beautiful, silky smooth skinned, pleasurable penis. and he used it so tender and lovingly, it was almost surreal

cut guy thinks his scarred, coarse, mutilated penis is god's gift to women as he furiously jacks himself to orgasm because anal sex isn't tight enough on it's own

natural guy had me crying tears of joy
cut guy had me crying tears of despair

this has to stop. people need to be more upset about what is happening to baby boys.

>>37116536
women shouldn't have an opinion on men's dicks.

>>37116536
hey babe. I know you care and all, but please get off this board.

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High and tight here. All kikes and feminists should be broken on the wheel. I mean shit, I'm sorry for being born the wrong sex but this punishment is a little extreme. It's not like I had a choice in the matter or did any of the horrible things men supposedly did to deserve it.

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High and tight
I wanna fucking die

>>37116084
oh good for you!!! now fuck off from the thread if you're not sharing these feels.

>>37116571
why not? they are ultimately who gets to decide what happens to them

>>37116536
I want you to know that I hate you. I don't dislike you, I absolutely despise you. Now go away

>>37116536
>i know some women like chopped up dicks because of how it looks
>but circumcision is wrong
>think about how i feel when they fuck me :''c

I'm not circumcised even though I'm an american.

>>37116608
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY YOU DUMB ROASTIE

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>be me 18yo
>circumsised
>learned about the sensitivity from foreskin 2 years ago

it pains me that i will never experience this sensitivity people are talking about and how it feels so good

>>37116608
Which is wrong.

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>>37116585
better pic
My dick is mutilated. I can't watch porn with uncurcumcised guys, makes me literally cry

>>37116651
dw man, tonight I'll run my foreskin over my knobhead while thinking of you.

>>37116647
>>37116660

which is why you shouldn't attack people who are on your side

>>37116704
t-t-t-thanks anon

>>37116708
Fuck off you hateful spiteful cunt
kys

>>37116651

I'm more upset about having my manhood forcibly ripped off. How can I ever feel like a whole functioning person when I'm strapped down and mutilated for no reason at all other than it delights the supposed caregivers to see me suffer? It is nothing short of pedosadistic rape and for some fucked up reason these people are praised instead of crucified. I can't even take a piss without being reminded that I'm less than a man.

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>>37116738
i understand, you're angry

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>>37116662
damn I know that feel. watching porn, youre getting pretty into it, you find a video that looks good, and the guy is fucking uncut. I stop right there and just go for a walk or listen to some music. Would my evil parents do this to me? Why would they intentionally mutilate one of the most important parts of my body? I just feel so helpless, you know, like I never even had a chance. Yours doesn't look that bad, at least you don't have big scars like I do

>>37116767
Yes so go away

if this was a just world, we could sue all the jew doctors and medical organizations who performed/advocated circumcision and use the money to quickly fund regenerative medicine. instead if you even bring up the issue of men who are angry about circumcision, you will most likely be laughed at because male sexuality is only a joking matter.

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>>37115590
I used to be between low and high, at around a CI-2. Now I'm around a CI-7 while flaccid. I aim to have full erect coverage when I am done restoring. I'm a grower, so when I am erect I still look like I was circumcised loosely, but the mucosa on my glans and inner foreskin remnant has been restored, and I have mechanical gliding like an intact penis.

http://www.restoringforeskin.org/coverage-index/CI-chart.htm

>>37116708
Posting about how sex feels better for you with an uncut dude isn't "being on my side"

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Restore you faggots, Restore. Unless you are too far gone like >>37116011 frankendick.

>inb4 I-ITS NOT THE SAME

No shit it isn't, but why wouldn't you want to try and experience something that many men including myself have benefited greatly from it?

Don't be down on your self forever.

>>37116796
How long have you been restoring?

>>37116783
I wish I could sue my parents, the doctor, and every organization that promoted taking my manhood when I was a helpless newborn. I didn't even have a say. Did they ever think about what I fucking want? No. They didn't even fucking tell me about it, I had to find out on my own. If I ever take my own life, I'm taking my parents with me

>>37115590
I only recently discovered American mutilate most of their boys. What the fuck?? WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU MUTILATE YOUR OWN SON??

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>>37116876
It took me around two years to get here:
>>37116796
and then I took a break for a few years, because I had a functioning foreskin. I used Cross taping and ring taping with medical tape to get to that point. I applied it every single day for two years.

Now I am using other methods, like T taping, and inflation.

>>37116783
I read somewhere that in the land of Americut you CAN sue them under some circumstances. Definitely look into it man, you might be able to salvage something out of your poor cut cock.

>>37116833
sex feels the same to me either way.. it's the men who are obviously suffering.
and projecting their suffering, like itt
it's criminal.

>>37116940
you can sue for anything the US, it's pretty easy

>>37116951
Get out of here you mean cunt

I am intact but I have my amazon smile set up to donate to the bloodstained men. I also occasionally donate to Doctors Opposing Circumcision.

I don't understand why you guys aren't more active about changing things honestly. Like why not organise demonstrations outside hospitals?

>>37116951
Your post sounded incredibly self-centered though.
>it needs to stop because the cut guy gave me bad sex!

>>37116940
I was cut loosely, so it isn't bad at all for me, no way I could sue. unless there is some serious complication from it suing would only be a waste of time and money.

>>37116958
yeah but male genital mutilation is a standard even protected practice in the united states of cuckoldry. it would be like suing for getting vaccinated, oh wait even that has probably succeeded more than circumcision cases.

>>37117009
You should switch it to Foregen.

>>37117028
i 've had a few beers, not an excuse, but that wasn't my intention

>>37117046
Not him but isn't foregen a for-profit company?

>>37117063
GO AWAY BULLY ANON

>>37117067
Nope. I've got my Smile set to them.

>>37116796
>CI-7 in 2 years
>Started at a CI-2

Man I am fucking jealous.
I just barely got to CI-4, but took a break when I got to CI-3 instead of continuing.
Been doing manual stretches and retaining every day so far for a month and getting insane results.

Can't wait.

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>>37117082
i just want to love you, anon

>>37115590
Which is ideal? Obviously, intact is ideal but aside from that

>>37117135
You are mean,m and only mean

>>37115590
High and tight (((circumcision)))
Fucking jews. Honestly don't know how circumsision is still a thing in western civilization

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>tfw you get anxiety in public restrooms because of your botched circumcision
even though we're all guys, normies think its so funny that the jew who chopped off my foreskin messed up. Thanks for understanding, this is a truly barbaric practice

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>>37117142
i'm sorry, that wasn't my intention

Don't have one cause my parents wanted me to be happy.

>>37117135
>i just want to love you
Funny how girls I interact with in real life never seem to think this way.

>>37117167
Post contact info bully

>>37117183
why? so you can bully me?

>>37117040

people have sued and have won just google it

even a loose cut is mutilation

>>37117046

I'll consider it but I'm not optimistic on foregen. The most important part of the foreskin is the frenulum and I don't see how they can really replace it effectively.

I think the money is better spent protecting future generations I'm sorry to say

>>37117153
Because it's a stupid habit that needs to die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCSWbTv3hng

>>37117106
Nice. I kind of skipped from CI-3 to almost CI-7, because I never had my glans partially covered. I have heard that it is fairly common, once you grow enough skin to cover the glans when flaccid. When I am hard it is still at ~CI-4.5. Once you can have your glans and inner foreskin covered 24/7, with or without retaining, there is a huge difference in sensitivity. I hope you continue to have good progress.

>>37117208
>I think the money is better spent protecting future generations
I agree. People need to know how useless and harmful it is.

>>37117206
No so I can make you nice

>>37117153
jews are scum too, but it isn't really their fault it happened in the shithole known as america. it was pretty much a puritan view of masturbation (oh no how dare you have fun with your penis you're going to hell) that made it so widespread. and I'd say the reason it still is in place is like what >>37117161 says, no one takes it seriously because bad things happening to men's genitals is just one big joke. but when it happens to a girl it's a super serious violation of human rights.

>>37116536
t uncut male troll

>>37117208
*Any cut is mutilation
Why can't people at least wait til their child is old enough to make the decision for himself

>>37117241
you've intrigued me

what's your plan?

>tfw aussie and cut
pls kill me

>>37117295
That's not something to tell

>>37117272
>Why can't people at least wait til their child is old enough to make the decision for himself

because that would require the cut fathers to acknowledge that they have been mutilated and have missed out one of the best parts of life

if they have their son cut too they can remain in denial that everything is fine

>>37117305
so if i give you a throwaway email, will i'll find out?

>>37117325
Possibly
You will be nice at the end though!

>>37117009

I've gotten into some heated arguments about it. I work in a hospital and even though I pretty much never go around L&D I still try to mention it as often as I can. I know of at least 4 boys that were saved thanks to me being the only one to step up and advocate. I really struggle feeling anything but hatred towards the people who would even consider allowing such an atrocity on their kin, even more so when they are offering to give money to cause irreversible harm to someone they are trusted to care for, but the overwhelming majority of them are just fucking retarded and ignorant about what the procedure actually involves. I present the facts, and when this doesn't convince them I acknowledge it must sound strange and just ask them to at least watch a couple videos of it being performed first before making a decision.

>>37117067

Last I heard that's what they are trying to switch over to, and I support it as it makes getting funding and backing a lot more likely. The problem is the guy behind foregen is a total assclown, I don't have much confidence in him. If we're ever going to see this come around it will probably be from Dr. Atala over at Wakefield.

>>37117340
i'm pretty paranoid on the internet in general
[email protected]

>>37117343
the progress foregen has made only makes me more angry. if a reputable organization had done it we could almost be there by now. but instead these italian buffoons did it and have no clue how to run PR. think of all the celebrities who hate being cut, they alone could donate millions to research. but it being an already taboo, or rather, humorous, topic in america really culls the donation effort. hopefully being for-profit does help, because imagine the revenue such a surgery would bring in if it were to exist.

>>37117440
I emailed you bully

>tfw restoring
highly recommend. Just try manual methods for a month or two and you'll start to see results

>>37116603
Why? It's cozy around here.

>>37117528
any tips on how to get started?
what kind of results in 2 months?
is it worth it? i feel like ive already lost the most sensitive part and cant grow it back so i dont want to waste years of my life trying to get something back that ill never be able too

>>37117440
Why? It is cozy around here.

>>37116242
what's wrong with you? its tradition and some guys are emotionally attached to cutting off dick skin at birth you nazi bigot

>>37117239
Damn, just gotta say you made an insane amount of progress if you skipped from CI-3 all the way to CI-7, damn.
I started out cut really fucking tight and took a break after a year and a half or so.
Finally got enough skin to retain properly though, which is nice.

>Once you have your glans and inner foreskin covered 24/7 without retaining there's a huge difference in sensitivity

Hot damn I can't wait. I'm already way more sensitive compared to when I first started. The cool thing I found out was that even after taking 6 months or so off of restoring, my sensitivity still stayed the same, but practically doubled since I hit CI-4.

I think it's really neat how there's so many variations in restoring, even if it does take some people longer than others. What's it like being CI-7? I can hardly focus when my skin slips past my head...how do you deal with that on a regular basis?

>tfw you've been circumsized 4 times
>tfw can't tell the tip from the shaft anymore

>>37117587
When you restore you can convert your glans and inner foreskin remnant back into functioning mucous membranes. The keratinization that is built up is also broken down once they are covered 24/7. You also get the mechanical gliding back, so you can glide over the glans with no friction.

>>37117587
check out reddit.com/r/foreskin_restoration
basically every hour or so I tug by grabbing the scar line and pulling it toward the end of my dick. Do it for a few seconds in each place for a total of a couple minutes
about a month in I started noticing that the skin glides over the inside of the penis better while jerking off. The main things you will get back are the gliding motion and having the inner skin and glans moist instead of dry and keratinized

>>37117587
Depends on how tight or loose your circumcision was.
The thing is you can start a lot of different ways, but the general idea is to get some regular scotch tape, pull your skin up as far as you can without pain, then tape it in place overnight.

It's a lot slower than manual methods like >>37117528 said, but it's a lot easier to get accustomed to the changes.

I am still angry.

I have always been angry.

I will never stop being angry.

When civilization destroys itself with nuclear missiles I will still be angry.

When I finally perish in a fucking desert my spirit, enshrouded in an inferno of pure rage, will burn North America until it sinks beneath a boiling ocean.

Why the hell is this shit allowed?

>>37117626
I think the rate of skin growth was fairly constant, but for me it was just bunching up behind the glans until there was suddenly enough for it to cover it completely while not being held in place.

With the amount of skin I have now, my glans never becomes uncovered when I am clothed, because the skin is held in place. It used to get pulled back whenever I got an erection when I had less skin. If I am nude it pulls back when I get hard though. My glans and inner foreskin are shiny now, and much more sensitive.

The most important thing for restoring seems to be consistency.

This is a very good resource, even if it is reddit:
>>37117676

>>37117852

because people like you post about it online but don't do anything to change it irl

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>>37115892
My penis used to be half covered by the remaining skin, but puberty made my penis too big for the remaining skin and now my dick is dead to the touch.

>>37117852
I don't know man. I tried talking about it with my parents, because I'd like to forgive them for it, but it's only made me angrier. They keep telling me that the problems are made up in my head because my dad's circumcised and he's "fine". They don't realize how fucked up it is and refuse to do any research because they believe everything on the internet is lies, but everything a doctor says is true. When I complain about discomfort they tell me that I should just go to a doctor. What the fuck's a doctor going to do? Amputate my dick?

>>37117587
>>37117685
I have found that paper medical tape works very well, and it is fairly cheap too. Scotch tape does not stick very well, at least for me. Cross taping is a good method to start with.

3M micropore tape is what I use.

>>37117960
You and your dad should compare wieners

>>37117440

is this how a pseudo-chad cyborg collects sluts on /r9k/?

i'm uncut, how do i collect my own uncut slut?

>>37117960

>they believe everything on the internet is lies, but everything a doctor says is true

A lot of doctors have discussed at length how damaging circumcision is.

>>37118055
Last time I saw his was when I was five. He was flaccid and just his urethra was exposed, they literally just snipped the tip. I think back then they didn't sell the foreskins. Meanwhile, I have a jagged line going across the halfway point on my dick when I'm not even hard. When I told him my glans was dried out he said "that's fucking weird, you need to see a doctor".

>>37118130
Your tale has moved me kind anon. Godspeed and good weinerings to you

>>37118121
Perhaps, but not the exact doctors they talk to. They don't believe it unless it's in person, if I try to show them an example otherwise they just say, "well you haven't talked to our doctor". To make matters worse my grandma was a receptionist at a urology clinic in the 50s and she's deluded herself into thinking that foreskins are sites of disease. She has no medical experience really, just answered calls and scheduled appointments, but my parents eat it up because she technically worked at a doctor's office.

>>37118173
Thanks but I think it's too late for me. I don't even masturbate anymore, hurts too much to bother, just deal with being perpetually moderately horny.

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>>37117852
Fucking this. Beautifully said. At birth, a doctor took a scapel and cut off 3/4ths of the nerve endings of our penis.

Yes, 3/4ths. That is a fact. The foreskin makes up 3/4ths of the nerve endings of the penis. How the fuck do we even cope with that?

Now, here's the saddest part of all. Not only is our sex life permanently ruined, but it gets worse. Babies are fully concious during the procedure. They get topical anesthetic (numbing jelly) but it's still insanely painful. They scream and choke. Infant trauma damages the limbic system of the brain. This is a fact.

You know what happens when you have a damaged limbic system? You feel loneliness ten times as intensely. You become introverted, anxious, depressed. So not only are our sex lives destroyed, but our brains as well.

>>37118245
>This shit fucking creates robots

Our parents made the conscious decision to do this to their own child.

Almost immediately after we were born, our first taste of the "gift" of life was a pain so intense, we were changed forever.

I want to see this fucking world burn.

Fuck this world

How the fuck is it socially acceptable to mutilate male genitalia

Fuck this world

>>37117861
>>37118010
Don't know if you're still here but I got another question.
How long did it take you to get the full gliding sensation? What's your end goal?

>>37118390
Exactly. And then normies will continue asking "oh why did [insert Elliot Rodger-esque outcast male spree shooter here] go postal, I don't understand why he'd do that, he was so quiet and polite!" and continue being hopelessly blind to the truth. Below is our chain of causality.

>Infancy: Genitals mutilated without consent, not only ruining sex life but causing permanent issues in the limbic system of the brain. The limbic system controls emotions, i.e. an overactive limbic systems causes incredibly intense feelings of loneliness, depression and suffering. Not to mention introversion and anxiety.
>Childhood: Relentless bullying. Absent father or abusive father.
>Teenage: Experience constant rejection and mistreatment from women due to them being attracted solely to the top 20% of males (verified in the study ran by Okcupid.)
>Adulthood: At this point, most women have children, most normies have secure jobs, most everyone has social circles and life development. Robots like us are left with nothing.
>Suicide: Once our parents die, it's over. Our brain chemistry is damaged beyond repair.

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>>37118489
I got mechanical gliding before I had full coverage of my glans. It used to be uncomfortable/ impossible to masturbate without lube, and now it is much better without it.

I want to eventually look like I am intact when I am erect. I would love to look like this:
http://imgur.com/8Fr43u1

>>37117676
Reading about this for the first time. Is it reasonable to do it once or twice a day for 5 mins instead of 1 min every hour? I'd rather not religiously sneak to the bathroom at work to tug on my penis.

>>37118560
I don't get it.

If you're going to do this shit to me when I am too young to even comprehend how sick this is, why even have me?

Fuck this.

>>37118628
there are devices you can get to do the tugging for you that you can have on under your clothes I think.

>>37118560
You basically typed out my suicide note. I have those same points written in a word doc for the day that I finally decide enough is enough.

>>37118607
Wow, those are some legitimate results.
Best of luck to you though.
Thanks for answering my questions.

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>>37118635
Wholeheartedly agreed my friend. And the most depressing part of all: it's all for profit. Circumcision makes hospitals a massive amount of money, to the extent that they'll offer to do it for free just to sell all the foreskin for thousands of dollars to the skincare industry and medical testing industry. http://thinkaboutnow.com/2016/03/3-wayscorporationsprofitoffbaby-foreskin14/
>Neonatal Human Dermal Fibroblasts (from foreskin) sale prices vary in price between $300-600 direct to doctors. However they can be sold for over $800 to researchers, from the companies that buy them.
Our lives were ruined just for profit.

>>37118800
So are parents that get their kids circumcised the epitome of good goyim?

Lads, what's that group doing research that is figuring out a way to turn skin back into stem cells to regrow tissue, and that if it works better as its completaed t can regrow whole body parts, like a new foreskin/frenulum?

>>37115638
circumcision is mainly a white thing. blacks have lower circumcision rates and mestizos are almost completely uncut.

t.white mom, mestizo dad. uncut

>>37115590
Tfw circumcised and have a skin bridge.
It doesn't hurt or pull, but when I get an erection I feel a bit worried I may pull down hard enough to tear it. Though having a skin bridge certainly has made me more pro-uncut just so if I do have children they don't have the chance of suffering with this.

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>>37118852
If Jews control the American medical industry, then yes, you're exactly correct. But every single doctor who participates in the practice is also responsible, regardless of their ethnicity. The "just following orders" defense is bullshit when it comes to ruining a life for profit. And the profit they make is sickening, it's the most profitable procedure there is, and also one of the easiest (babies can't complain and parents can't successfully sue doctors if something goes wrong in the majority of cases.)
>Neonatal circumcision is the most frequently performed routine operation in the US. Doctors are collecting as much as $240 million yearly to perform 1.2 million needless operations on 1.2 million normal penises.
http://www.thewellspring.com/flex/myth-circumcision-is-neither-harmful-nor-painful/2617/circumcision-who-profits.cfm

Wow. I'm uncut but I always thought it was a curse. I had no idea there were bros out there who were actually mad about being circumcised. You see nothing but cut dicks in porn, so I just sort of thought that's how most men preferred to be.

So did I luck out?

>>37119030
You totally did.
Permanent scarring really does fuck with self-esteem and sexual confidence.
Consider it a defect that was imposed on them with no choice due to how "it's always been".

It started out as a way to curb masturbation in the 50's and spiraled out of control. Now it's a generational thing that's severely fucked up a lot of individuals. Most guys are rightly mad about it, and don't really have an option outside of restoring, and that shit can take years.

doesnt circumcision encourage masturbation because they are never sexually satisifited
>>37119123

>>37119030
Yes, you lucked out you fucking faggot.
>wanting to be circumcised
Trump should make an executive order that any male above 18 that decides to be circumcised should be shot in the head instead.

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>>37119030
>So did I luck out?
Read this, and then make your own decision. http://returntonow.net/2016/03/02/circumcision-is-child-abuse-and-torture/

Regardless of what conclusion you come to, you undoubtedly did luck out. You get to make the choice yourself. If you want your penis scalpeled up like a porn star, you can make that choice. You get to decide exactly how you want your penis, and avoid permanent infant trauma. Adults get put to sleep during surgery, babies don't

>>37119123
It was used to prevent masturbation in the late 1800s. It morphed into a "medical" procedure slowly over time.

REMINDER
Depending on your state, and the state your circumcision was performed in, you usually have a year or two after your 18th birthday to sue the doctor that circumcised you.

>http://www.arclaw.org/

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WHY AREN'T CIRCUMCISION RATES DECREASING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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This is a global map of circumcision prevalence.

>>37119253
i want to see california sink beneath the pacific ocean

i mean ive read this thread so many times but this one has me shaking

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This man agrees that if you're circumcised and you don't have your child cut as well, you're a cuck.

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>tfw roasties

>>37119384
>muh pc
This same retard probably looks down on mudslimes for female circumcision.

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Female circumcision has been banned since 1996. It is a violation of the 14th amendment for male circumcision to be allowed.

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>>37119227
>tfw born in california
>got cut
>didn't know obviously
>went to pee at the urinals in kindergarten
>other kids made fun of me for having my head out
I point to this as the start of my insecurity and poor body image.

>>37119273
Me too buddy, me too.

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>>37119030

>You see nothing but cut dicks in porn

I really don't know where this meme comes from. I don't watch a ton of porn, but when I do, I see uncut guys in the video about half the time. If it's not an American video, then the guy is uncut about 9/10 times.

This is just one example.

>>37116536

Not a real fembot. Fake.

>>37119551
Have you looked into foreskin restoration? The end result can be very nice:
>>37118607
>>37116796

>>37119624
Yeah, I almost see more intact guys.

>>>/hc/1161027

>>37115590
high and somewhat loose, I have just enough skin left that I don't need lube to fap

>>37119771
I actually started trying it manually last month and at first it seemed to help (what skin I had had more elasticity for a while) but lately my skin has been really leathery and I'm afraid that it's from stretching it. I've stopped, might pick it back up again when it improves.

>>37120343
Yeah, nothing wrong with taking a break every now and then.
That's how it is when you first start out, you need to give it some time to heal. That will happen less often after another couple weeks, give or take

>>37120416
Alright. I also had some micro tearing and found masturbation more painful than usual. Do most people go no fap while restoring? Would it help to?

>>37119771
i feel like it would be a waste of time. even if i restore i wont have all the nerve ending an uncut man would have, it will just look the same as uncut but mentality ill know its not nearly as good.

>>37120566
You don't grow new nerve endings, but it allows you to make much better use of the nerve endings that you still have. Restoration brought back the mucous membranes on my glans and inner foreskin, and it removed the keratinization that had built up, making the skin much more sensitive. The mechanical gliding is the other big improvement.

If you want to learn more, look here:
>>37117676


>>37120343
Great! Make sure that you aren't applying too much tension. Keep in mind that you aren't trying to stretch the skin, you are aiming to apply enough tension to trigger mitosis and grow more cells.

seriously why the fuck would any sane person do this to their infant son?

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>>37120726
Where else would they get such healthy tissue to use in cosmetics?

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.>>37115590

Hey, did any of you guys check this out? Seems pretty cool, apparently we will be able to regrow it.

>>37120773
i dont have much faith in this, i feel like by the time we can successfully recreate a perfect foreskin ill already be past my prime.

>>37120827
Dude, it's like 2-3 years.

>>37120845
Oh, I forgot to mention, the preliminary studies are done, and the next studies are set to come out at the end of the month or so. You should check out the website.

>>37120845
>>37120854
>>37120773
yeah ok but how long until its ready to pay for the procedure? how long until the procedure becomes remotely affordable (under 20k), how long until i can go somewhere near me (not travel to italy.) i dont think its going to be an option for atleast another 10-15 minutes.

>>37120917
Apparently the FDA accepts other countries clinical trials, so it will likely be as short as a few months of extra waiting.

>>37120917
>how long until the procedure becomes remotely affordable
Perhaps insurance would cover it? I have gotten clinically diagnosed with depression before, and explained that being circumcised has attributed to my depression and poor self image, does anyone else think insurance might cover it if it's available?

>>37120966
That could very well be the case. I personally think it will be that way. Along with men with sensitivity problems.

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>>37120997
>>37120966

I don't think it'll be covered by insurance, it'll likely be considered "cosmetic" unfortunately. Fucking kikes.

>>37116138
Those fucking hypocrites would never support this argument if it were being used to defend female circumcision or anti-vaccination sentiments

>>37121037
Well, how about I sue the hospital for cutting off my foreskin without my consent? I would sue them for the value of the cost of the foregen procedure, maybe some pain+suffering.

I would talk about this with my uncle, who is a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that he's circumcised and blue pilled so he probably wouldn't understand why I want to do this.

>>37120458
Pretty much yeah.
If it helps, you can always fap before you do manual stretches

>Micro tears
Slow the fuck down.
Stop stretching as hard, make sure you only stretch for like 2-5 minute intervals like 5 times a day.

>>37121280
I don't like jacking off first, makes my dick too touch sensitive. I think I'll just do no fap, I've done it for a couple of months straight before, it's not bad after the first week. If I get desperate it's an excuse to master anal masturbation.

And I guess you're right, I should take it easier. I'll try two minutes 5X a day, increase it from there if my dick can handle it comfortably.

>>37120935
>>37120966
im a canuck so i imagine i will have to wait additional time for this dumb ass liberal government to slowly bring the procedure into Canada.

>>37115590
I can't feel shit anymore. 23. I wonder if it's why I started getting gay thoughts. My dick is numb so I want to chase satisfaction by another dick filling my ass or shooting ropes into my throat. Problem is I am ugly and autistic and this late in life fags all have STDs. My only shot at sex was when I was a young teen. Could've had sex. Fag sex. But sex of some kind nonetheless plus he didn't have herpes or nothing. Too bad I turned him away. Too bad for me he didn't press the issue after my disinterested "no".

Sorry for the autistic ranting. If I start moisturizing my penis every day will it get more sensitive? Also I should quit masturbating.

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>>37115590
I don't have one

Think I was about 20 when I learnt all americans have it and suddenly le lube meme in movies made sense.

my condolences for your foreskins and frenulums

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>>37119394
>someone
>somewhere in a factory
>makes baby trays just to make it more convenient for cutting off little baby boys nerve endings
I hate this world

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>>37116742
>>37116775
mah friendos I feel you too.

Im not flayed but i can imgine how it really sucks. I hate your parents and the jews that messed them

>>37120773
I get that their ultimate plan is to use decellularised tissue to create an ECM base for regeneration...
... but where are they going to get the ECM base from? I don't want fucking animal foreskin ECM grafted to my penis.

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>>37122198
The horror of this thought...

This is truly a demoniac vital souls absoring paradigm going on in this earth

>>37122344
Not to mention, while PNS nerve regeneration is wholly possible and does occur, you hardly get the same sensation as previously. Since axon regrowth often ends up inserting into the ECM or the wrong sections of skin, the sensation is much less intense and much more diffuse.
How will they work their way around that one? Have they cosidered embryological nerve formation research?

>>37116008
Its ignorance and kike propaganda. I will name the Jew.

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>>37116011
MRA CRYBABY MANCHILD MANLET LITTLE BOY! GO BE MISOGYNISTIC ELSEWHERE!

>>37122468
It's silly to imagine it could ever be the same, I don't see much point debating that.

I think the most important part about regeneration is to build up the idea that this shit is NOT NORMAL. So we can save future generations.

Think different discussions would be had if statistics were like "30% of all circumcised consider themselves victims and are getting regeneration"

>>37117009
I'll start donating once I get a new job, anon.

I hope to one day be able to pass legislation that criminalizes the act of mutilating infant genitalia in America. Our boys are treated awful.

>>37122543
I mean it could be exactly the same; probably very easily too.
I just see no consideration for nervous regeneration whatsoever. Great that they can regenerate the cells and tissues, but if it's 90% denervated, it would feel no different at all.

>>37115590
>Didn't get circumcised
>Only other uncutfag I knew was my twin brother
>Grow up thinking we were mutated or some shit

>>37115590
don't you die on me, baby!

I'm uncut and used to be so glad of that but recently I've been getting into cut dick porn and fictional erotic scenarios involving being circumcised.

>>37124245
>erotic scenarios involving being circumcised

Jesus Christ, how much of a cuckolded faggot can you be?

>>37116536
>implying dick feels different when condom is on

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Uncut with short foreskin master race

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>>37115590

I don't know. Can you tell me?

>>37124344
what kind of fag posts a photo of his dick on the internet?

>>37124348
damn anon, I feel bad for you.

The worst part is, you seem like a nice guy too.

>>37115590

> being jewed
> letting jews suck your baby cock
> letting them use the foreskin in cosmetics

Only Americans are so fucking dumb to allow this paedophilia.

Low and loose, also lopsided, a lil extra skin on the left side. It honestly looks like shit.

>>37124358

Ehh, my life is good and I've never known my wang any different.

>>37124375
>life is good
>browsing on this board

Are you sure that you're in the right place, friend!
r/WildFunNights is right down the hall for you.

>>37124401

You're right, I should have memed right and said life is comfy, that's robot approved, right?

>>37124460
no, you're missing the point.
I meant that you're posting on r9k and claim that your life is enjoyable in any way.
THATS the problem.

>>37124485
Not everyone here is a robot. Chill out my dude.

>>37118899
so THAT is why white birthrates are declining.

weirdest thing to be self-conscious about. I'm circumcised and spend atleast 15% of everyday dry beating my meat.

>>37124513
Not really, since Black birthrates are also declining in the US.

That's more an economic choice than anything else, but feminism reducing the amount of women that want kids plays into it.

>>37116796

Im still going. I have a high and tight, which is good in a way because it left me with alot of inner mucosa, which many restorers obsess over.
Unfortunately, many of the most effective restoration methods focus largely on inner, which I dont really need.

e.g. the DTR, which I own is a very good device, provided you can get a decent amount of normal shaft skin on the inside, where the real tension is applied. I cannot.
Chuck, the creator, had a low and loose, which meant the DTR was great for him. It worked on his long term goal of gaining more inner skin, while also speeding towards flaccid coverage, the ultimate peace of mind.
When I apply the DTR,the only thing getting stretched is the inner mucosa, no outer really. So frustrating.
I either have to tug with a strap or do manual routines.

This shit would be so much easier if i just had another couple centimetres of shaft skin in relation to inner skin.

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>uncut masturbation feels like a cut orgasm with EVERY STROKE
>uncut orgasm is on the same pleasure level as shooting HEROIN
>uncut penis can fire off cum like a cannon whereas cut can only dribble/ooze out, a lot like charging a super soaker, as it were
>CIRCUMCISION BRUTALIZES THE INFANT LIMBIC SYSTEM: PERMANENT AUTISM, DEPRESSION AND PSYCHOSIS RESULT
my parents wouldn't cut a newborn baby with a razor blade. they wouldn't take a newborn to a tattoo parlor. those things would be too cruel. SO WHY DID THEY DESTROY MY NATURAL PENIS?

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>>37124816
OY VEY GOYUM.

THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH YOUR SEXUALLY LIBERATED WOMEN WILL LOVE YOUR MUTILA- I MEAN, COSMETIC, COCK

YOU'LL BE HAVING SEX DAILY.

>>37124816

Because America is a sick, rotten society. Jewified to the core. A perversion of mother nature.

>>37124816
>uncut orgasm is on the same pleasure level as shooting HEROIN
You have never tried heroin, did you kiddo?

>>37118245
Holy shit that's fucked up. Does anyone know if there has been a study of depression/mental illness rates in circumcised vs. uncircumcised men?

>>37124348
Looks fairly high and very tight. At least you were left with more inner foreskin than if it was low.

>>37124707
Cross taping and ring taping focus mostly on outer skin, you could try those. There are manual methods that focus on outer skin too.

>>37118245
I really doubt the legitimacy of this. If they were performing a standard circ and measuring the effects on the brain, why would it not be ethically approved? Unless they thought that they deliberately made it painful to exaggerate the effects. I'm not sure but I doubt it.

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Most people don't realize how much tissue is removed. It is half or more of the skin on your penis.

There was once an insane 90-year old jew in the bronze age deserts of Israel. he was psyhoctic, probably a schizophrenic, he was hearing voices that he assumed were god himself. The voices told him to first kill his son, he was about to actually do it, before they told him lol jk, then they told him to cut off the skin on his dick and of all his sons and their sons. Okay, the old jew said. 5000 years later, little anon's dick is being cut apart because of this very jew. This fucking world, I swear.

>>37115590
Low and tight. I hate it.

>>37124522
This isn't about feeling self-conscious. At least it isn't for me. Especially long erections feel too tight and sometimes cause me pain. Also masturbation and sexual intercourse often lead to soreness and pain as well.

>>37125865
Damn. That's disgusting, and to think it happened to me.

>>37126156
Well, a few more years until its fixable I suppose. Apparently Foregen is going to be ahead of schedule, from funding. I also personally think so, because now they're starting to do events and stuff, and this new guy they got. Who knows what this PrideFest thing will do.

>>37125865
>This kills the penor
Original

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The kind of circumcision where I never got circumcised and I pulled the skin back myself as an adult/teenager.

Pic related. It's a dick.

>>37126312
And the brain. As you could expect, it's excruciatingly painful, and has lasting effects.

>>37126339
Must be nice to have moveable skin on your dick.

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>>37126377

Yep it could have been worse. Circumcision is a mutilation crime.

Pic related. Moving dick skin.

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>>37125516
>I really doubt the legitimacy of this.
Then here is a thorough, controlled peer-reviewed study taken from The Lancelet (one of the world's oldest and best known general medical journals) showing that the circumcision pain experienced by infants in the neonatal period has long-lasting effects on future infant behaviour.
http://www.cirp.org/library/pain/taddio2/
>why would it not be ethically approved?
You could ask that to so many medical procedures throughout history. Electroshock therapy. Conversion therapy on children. Lobotomies. Remember when the Kennedy child was given a lobotomy? That was in the 1940s, before medical associations realized that cutting out part of a brain didn't actually help anyone. Lastly, keep in mind female circumcision has been illegal in the United States for the past two decades due to how unethical it is. My theory is that male circumcision would also be illegal if it didn't make $240 million yearly, making it the most profitable routine operation in the US.

Also, I posted this before, but if anyone wonders why we're so against circumcision, see this link. http://returntonow.net/2016/03/02/circumcision-is-child-abuse-and-torture/

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I literally have a male roastie as my foreskin is only severed but left intact. I was circumcised at 12. No, I won't post pictures.

>>37117208
>I think the money is better spent protecting future generations I'm sorry to say
let the young normies keep their foreskin while we are stuck mutilated forever? fuck that. not like we will be able to buy people's opinions on circumcision anyway. while the jews would be okay with goyim buying their foreskins back it would take many decades to undo the brainwashing of the typical americuck.

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High and Loose hand me the Noose

>>37115590
High and tight with a fucking skin bridge

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>>37120770
>>37120726
Don't worry, they follow "informed" "consent" guidelines.

>>37126730
But there'd no way past generations will be able to accept something horrible had been done to them, unless there's a way of fixing it. Well, at least for the weak minded. And thus they'll do it to their children. Foregen is also a way of convincing them that it's terrible, because when they go through the process, they'll see what they've been missing all these years.

>>37115983
Nerve death is never normal. What he described is keratinization which can be completely reversed through restoration.

>>37116662
>. I can't watch porn with uncurcumcised guys,

Big deal you can't watch asian porn. It's all blurry 2 inch shit anyway.

>>37117455
Very late to this but I've spoken extensively with Lisa Marshall from WFIRM about that exact topic. They said they'd love to work on the foreskin and see a great amount of profit from it but they're completely lacking the funds for it. AFIRM II didn't give them enough to work on the entire penis, they were only given enough of a budget to work on erectile tissue and finding a way to reconnect all of the miniscule blood vessels. She said that AFIRM III (Dec 2018) may give them what they need to work on regenerating the whole thing but it's a waiting game. They already have them working on over 20 projects and bepis is low on the list.

But if you do happen across $3 million or so by some chance do be sure to contact them.

>>37117455
They have some new social media people, and are actually going to NYC's pridefest this year. So the PR will get better.

>>37127061
Oh, and a documentary, American Circumcision is coming out in the winter, and I emailed them. Foregen is going to be in the movie. Also, I saw the trailers, it looks professional as fuck. This Brendon Mariota or whatever seems to be a smart guy.

>>37127061
They're still unbelievably incompetent. They've raised $170,000 and still haven't even attempted to regenerate a human foreskin yet. They've also changed their surgical procedure plan about 100 times, waaay back in 2011 Enzo said something about just putting stem cells in the scar line or some weird shit like that. Their response for "how will you reconnect all of those tiny blood vessels, the frenumul etc" is "dunno we'll talk to some good surgeons lol". Now all they have to show for these last 7 years is that they decellularized bull sheaths, and for what? What fucking purpose does that even serve?

What pisses me off the more than anything is their excuse that it's hard to find doctors to work on it because it's taboo. Who gives a flying fuck? If they're getting paid they won't care.

>>37127135
Dude, this stuff takes A LOT of money. Like a fuckton. Right now all they're trying to do is get some investors. And a paper is going to be released soon on decellularizing human foreskins. Like the end of the month.

>>37127135
And I mean like millions of dollars.

>>37127423
It doesn't take 7 years and $200,000 with nothing to show for it. They could have easily gotten the $3 million they were asking for if they actually went out and did anything for all these years. They had a handful of information booths and presentations and that was it. Anybody remember goatfucker? He dipped because he realized they would never actually accomplish anything with the rate they were going.

>>37127485
So from one moment you said $170,000, and now you're saying $200.000? They need labs(costs money), scientists(which are paid), materials(tissue collection agencies apparently were hard to work with, but now they have them doing stuff), and people actually aren't going to invest in this without some initial progress. It took a while at the start for a reason. No dumbass is going to drop $3 million into some random startup without any proof.

>>37115590
Low - loose.

>>37127630
Oh, and especially not dropping it into such an incredibly ambitious idea, without proof. But now they're on the road to actually succeeding.

>>37115590
i think mine was loose.

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>letting women make a decision

I'm not circumcised because my parents aren't stupid, thank you parents.

>>37127742
>snip
>not knowing it's adhered to the head at birth, so you're literally flaying it

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>>37117960
>dead to the touch
Mfw uncut and not a jew meme

>>37117930
>not signing up to volunteer for foregen

>>37119253

WOW

Nice company you're in there murrica! How does it feel sharing a cultural trait with fucking SANDNIGGERS.

>>37119253
>not having the red and blue be the other way around

>>37127630
Nearly $200k if you want to be that literal you fucking autist. I never said that I expected somebody to straight up invest $3m, I said if Foregen had actually been out advertising, and giving presentations about the immense profit to be made instead of telling these potential investors "this is bad and we want to stop it", they could have easily accumulated $3 million over the course of seven fucking years. Stop defending their shitty practices because nothing is ever going to get done if they keep it up.

>>37128255
I mean, they are working on it. Also, nice anger you have there.

>>37128336
I don't know if you've noticed but the majority are irritated with them or have stopped donating entirely because of how long it's taking. It could have already been done by now if there were competent people running it but instead we're all still sitting here waiting, and you're trying to defend them.

>>37128336
Literally kill yourself you retarded faggot. You're part of the reason it's not done yet.

>>37128404
>>37128422
Really? they're about to release some new studies and now you guys are getting upset? Only reason I'm not worried is because I'm working with them, and know some stuff that I can't say yet, as I'll easily be identified. It's going to be fine.

>>37128457
Why can't you say it? Transparency is another huge problem with you people. What are the studies about, decellularizing tissue? Because everybody already knows that works, and it's not impressive at all. Wrap it around your head that we're not "suddenly" pissed at them, we've been pissed because we've been waiting and donating for SEVEN YEARS with no results.

>>37128457
>working with them
what a surprise

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>>37128526
And we only recently started getting more donations, look. What we had in the beginning was certainly not enough to work with. It was only enough to get settled to start working.

>>37128558
Oh, and that's around the time the HUFO project was done. And I'm not "working" with them, I'm just a heavily involved volunteer.

>>37128558
I will reiterate for you;
>If foregen hadn't been sitting on its ass for years, and was out advertising and giving presentations based on the potential profit instead of ethical grounds, they would have already met the $3m mark by now

>>37128558
when you start growing foreskins you can shill all you want. you've made no real progress and i will never contemplate donating until you actually do something.

I want to cause my parents suffering for this. I'm not even in a country where it's encouraged by doctors and they just went and did it. They've tried the "muh standard procedure", the "muh abrahamic religions we don't follow", and the "better to have a botched circumcision than no circumcision" excuses, so they deserve some punishment.
How can I mentally fuck them up so badly that they'll never recover, without doing anything illegal or having them disown me? I want to see them face immeasurable emotional turmoil until their last breaths.

>>37128693
Cut ties with them. It's not worth the heartache, unless you sue them there's absolutely nothing to gain from it. Tell them flat out how much you fucking hate them, that you'll never forgive them for it and leave.

>>37128773
But they're rich and paying for my med school fees; I want them to suffer while still doing that.

>>37128653
Well, what can I expect from people. Expecting things to happen even without money.

>>37129121
Did you not reject pharma money?

>>37129204
What do you mean by this? Pharma money?

Why the fuck are you faggots crying about being cut? Sucks that you got circumsised unwillingly, but you can just restore your foreskin, google it.

>>37129810
It doesn't bring back the specialized nerves like Foregen will though.

>>37129810
Doesn't bring back the actual foreskin friend. All it does is give you some extra shaft skin.

Not a kike so none.

>>37126644
I'm not arguing that it's not a bad thing. All I'm saying is that I doubt these guys really took measurements in the first place. The only difference between a normal circumcision and the one that this guy alledgedly did is that they did a brain scan. He says the commitee that approves or disapproves publications for ethical reasons decided not to do so because they make too much money out of the status quo and decided to silence dissent. I call bullshit, I googled that guys name and it seems he is an engineer not a scientist qualified to make these sorts of measurements in the first place. Again I'm not saying circumcision on infants isn't a dumb idea but just because you read something on the internet doesn't make it true.

>>37129810

Anyone who cries about it and doesn't try to restore should, well, suck it up and start restoring, because it will make you feel better and the results are very worth it.

However, its not so easy as "just" restore, it takes tons of time and dedication. Been doing it for years and I'm still not where I want to be yet.

>>37129823

Might as well restore because by the time Foregen actually exists (IF IT EVER DOES!!!!) you could have had a restored foreskin which is 1000s of times the pleasure of cut. More likely you will just wait another 10 years and have nothing, because foreskin regeneration is probably impossible.

>>37129827

You get extra inner skin too if you were left with any. The glans and inner skin rever to their original pink, moist, sensitive state. And simply having mobile skin gives you tons more pleasure. Saying "All it does is give you extra shaft skin" is really minimizing and downplaying the benefit.

If it weren't for restoration i probably would have blown my brains out a long time ago. And I'm not even all the way there yet. It really does help you cope and heal on a inner level.

>>37129860
>Impossible

Dude, the same tech gave a guy a new trachea in 2011. Why can't they do this?

>>37129921
Because it involves the reconnection of tens of thousands of nerve endings, blood vessels and the frenulum

>>37129970
Dude, whole arms have been done before, with full function. Along with blood vessels.

>>37130158
>whole arms have been done before
No they fucking haven't. Stop talking out of your ass

Is foreskin restoration a meme or does it actually do anything for you?

I can't cum from anything other than fapping/sex. Be nice if that could change.

>>37130247
It works wonders and is absolutely worth it but you have to commit to it. It takes a looong time.

>>37130189
What?
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/05/496781581/former-marine-receives-double-arm-transplant

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/transplant/programs/reconstructive_transplant/hand_transplant.html#total_transplants

Dude, it says here:

"How many total hand/arm transplants have been performed worldwide?

More than 85 patients have received hand/arm transplants at institutions around the world. The longest surviving hand/arm transplant is the first U.S. recipient at 11 years."

They haven't? Stop talking out of YOUR ass.

>>37130321
Can you recommend some shit for me? Spoonfeed me?

How long are we talking?

>>37130362
It takes a few years, BUT it's not hard to do at all. I'd recommend the manual methods. Takes half an hour or so a day

>>37130403
Link me up, I have no idea what you're talking about and any research leads me to obscure devices that I'm 99% sure wont work.

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>>37118899
No white people circumcise except for Americans. Circumcision is explicitly not a white thing, as it has been what differentiated us from Jews in the past.

To reiterate, there is not a single white country where the majority of males are circumcised except for America and the vast majority of white people are uncircumcised. Perhaps this is what they mean by "American exceptionalism" ?

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started high and tight but im restoring
Prioritizing comfort and pleasure over coverage

low and loose
religious parents but my dad's a doctor so he knew better than to get me circumcised in a way that would be harmful.

>>37130431
http://www.restoringforeskin.org/public/manual-tugging/method-2

>>37124245
link to fic please? orig comment

>>37130496
sounds like youre are a cuck

>>37130566
sounds like youre are a BITCH

>>37130496

High leaves more inner foreskin nerve endings. So high and loose is probably better. And btw, look at foregen, if you havent already.

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>>37130463
it's more common than you think in other white countries. still not near as bad as america but in australia and canada it is a bit high probably due to amerijew influence. but in europe it's very low except in serbia and such.

>>37130359
Full function means mobility. Any time a body part is excised it loses all or most of its tactile sensation and can only feel hot/cold/pain, and that's because nerve endings have a very difficult time reconnecting. The purpose of foregen isn't just to slap on a flap of skin with less feeling than a restored foreskin, its purpose is to restore all feeling and even WFIRM will tell you that's not a realistic goal at all.

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>>37130762
Hes baiting pretty hard anon

>>37130927
oh, you mean >>37130762

Right? Or do you think I'm baiting? Legitimate question.

>>37130927
thats fukkin gross m8

>>37130927
Nice progress brah, I'm at about the same point. I have the same hairy shaft shit so a piece of advice never shave it because they turn into a thousand tiny knives. Just pluck them out with tweezers if you ever want to get rid of it.

Mine's worse because I have a giant fucking turkey neck on the bottom but it is what it is.

>>37130951
Naw tons of people shill retarded shit on 4chan when an actual topic of interest comes up
>>37131086
yeah dicks are gross
go back to schlicking yourself ya dyke normie cunt

>>37131182
u Iook like a tranny lmao

tfw intact white american because parents were hippies

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>>37131169
>but it is what it is
ReviewBrah is restoring his foreskin? Definitely seems like the kind of guy who'd be upset about it not all being there.

>>37131169
It's barely an issue when im hard because that skin retracts. If when i have more skin it's an issue (it should be less of one) ill devise a way to remove the upper ones

>>37131210
it is a dick

>>37130927

do u have that coverage while standing as well? or only when sitting/holding it forward?

seems pretty close to where i'm at. not a real ci-4 if it wont stay that way standing but a preview of whats to come at least.