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>tfw you realize you are ACTUALLY going to be alone forever

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>tfw you realize you are ACTUALLY going to be alone forever and it isn't just a joke or a meme
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It ain't so bad. The older you get the less you care.
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Oh, man. Only about sixty or so more years before I'm free.
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Anyone else go through so much out of the norm that it's impossible to emotionally connect with other people? I can be friendly and accommodating, but I think I lack the spark in me that makes relationships worth having. The INTP personality doesn't help.
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>>37092095
>INTP personality
Stop using fucking renaissance-age magick to define your personality
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This is usually untrue
You'll notice r9k is mostly 16-18yos pretending to be sad 20-25yos
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>>37092071

translation: the older you get the more apathetic and dead inside you become
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prove it.
>photos
>employment or education status
>wage
>hobbies
>etc.
i'll check this post in 10 min, faggot
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>>37092095
Kekk.
Iktf.
I look at zeemaps.
Think about being the friend of someone who contacts me.

Never ever think about contacting them.
Seeking relationships is mot in my nature, but I can probably accommodate them after scanning you for what kind you need.

Also have impulsive fantasies about acting out idealistic camaraderic encounters with strangers just for the purity and absurdity of seeing and meeting a human to join in an activity simplt because we are human and we exist simultaneously without resistance.

Its hard to d plane
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>>37092095
Same. I could probably befriend someone but there's just no reason to.
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>>37092137
The majority here know what it stands for. It's a shorter way to say that someone is cold, detached, and analytic, but it also signifies that they're this way despite feeling that they might prefer not to be.
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>>37092157
But I'm a 22 year old loser working in retail with zero prospects for the future.

My one and only perk is that I don't live with my parents, otherwise I am a totally worthless low-value peasant. I couldn't provide for any woman, I'd never be able to afford children even if by some miracle a woman decided to marry my worthless ass.

I am a modern serf, in fact I think I am even lower, as serfs generally had no problem finding wives.
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>>37092137
>test asks if you're introverted
>say yes
>test says congrats, you're an introverted!
>people are angry about this
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>>37092157
>tfw actually a sad 20yo
>>37092255
I love you
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>>37092239
It's a way to make excuses and blame the way that you are instead of actually doing something about it.
People who use MBTI are faggots
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>>37092210
Not posting a photo, but I work full time in a grocery store, I dropped out of college, I make just above minimum wage and I have no hobbies besides porn, posting on 4chan and occasionally playing video games.

And no I am not going back to fucking college I will never go back to fucking college, I'm too broke and too stupid.
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>>37091656

everyone is born alone and everyone dies alone
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>>37092289
You sound like a normalfag. I have actual problems, but my personality is mostly separate from that. Of course there's narcissism, which is a tangible flaw, but the tendency to over-analyze and the lack of emotional sensitivity is simply how I am. I've had it since childhood, and it will remain 'til I die.
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>>37091656
Hahaha, make peace with it now, boih, it def does not get easier as time goes on

t. 33y/o wizard
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>>37092357
You sound like an insufferable faggot, doomed to live in arrested development because you get too caught up in labeling yourself and others.
Have fun dying alone.
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Since I don't like life and the universe is cruel, I'm convinced I'm essentially immortal.
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It keeps me up at night knowing I will most likely die a kissless virgin. I'm usually good at problem solving, I've gotten myself out of a lot using my wits. I cannot think of ANYWAY possible to change my fate. I got into the best shape of my life, I dress nice, I got a job, I tried working on my social skills and talking to girls. I just can't do it guys, I fucking can't. I actually tried unlike a lot of you, and I failed miserably. My only hope in this life is that I move to a different country and use the language barrier as a disguise for my obvious lack of social skills and autism.
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>>37091656
I'm 35 going on 36. Once you hit your mid thirties you get used to it. You'll get some autistic hobby and you'll be slightly satisfied for a while.

I'm into model trains.

Sometimes I have those nights where I'm afraid but I just drink a shot of vodka.
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>>37092387
who the fuck let this normie in here
please escort him out
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>>37092311
start lifting
I SWEAR TO GOD IT MAKES SHIT BETTER FFS NO ONE ON THIS WEEB BOARD BELIEVES ME
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>>37092095

Yep

its what hurts the most

I just want someone who I can really relate to, but I don't think they exist, even the friends I have I can't really relate to other than the fact we're a bunch of directionless young adults

I guess its my own fault to some extent for digging into all my interests so deeply autistically, causing me to distance myself unintentionally from others, but I'd love nothing more than to find another person like me to share those interests with

plus I've been out of contact with females and prospects of romance so long that I don't even think I can function in a way that most women would be able to find attractive(within the confines of a close relationship, insecurity doesn't help)

sure I can put up a facade, but I don't want to do that, I actually do want to "b myself"

if its not genuine then its not worth the time

also I'm an INTP as well
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>>37092095
I've gotten even worse. I have lost all empathy. If someone tells me something sad or important about them I only think about myself and how boring what they are telling me is.
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>>37092461
You get out. Shoo.
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>>37092442
If I hit my 30s without having gained any kind of relationship I will become a monk and go live in a monastery, I can see no other solution to save myself the humiliation of being an aging bachelor.
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>>37092481
thanks for the (You)
>>37092475
at some point you just realize that no one wants the real you and only the pieces that they thought were ok
you're your own friend, really
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>>37092509
Leave, reddit trash.
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>>37092530
oh shit an insult, yes sir right away sir
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>>37092409

You bet you didnt even tried faggot. Did you ask them out? "Hey do you wanna catch a movie"? "Hey do you wanna get a drink?" Fuck off
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>>37091656
It's tolerable in your 20's. You still have hope somewhat.

When you get into your 30's you really start to fucking despair. I don't care how naturally positive you are. This stage will break you if you're still a virgin nearing your mid 30's.
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>>37092197
>>37092071
This

I'm 25 now and I'm starting to care less. I'm really more interested in my hobbies and video games than women

It kind of helps if I play out the scenario in my head. I mean, if I actually get a gf, then the pros are that i'll get to have steady sex, but the cons far outweigh the pros. Like, she'll probably want me to do things that I don't want to do, like be healthy or socialize or meet her family and her friends. Then I'd sperg out somehow and ruin everything in one way or another. Plus I'd have to constantly cater to her attention in order for her to not get upset with me.
It's just not worth it.

Once I get a job and a car though, I'm going to save up and go to Nevada and get myself a legal hooker and fuck her
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I dont have a gf and I never will. The only reason ill survive is because I have a small and loyal group of friends. If I lose my only 3 friends, ill be fucked
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>>37091656
>>37092197
d e l e t e
organellle
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>>37092556

You could not be more wrong. I got a bunch of "I have a boyfriend sorry", and "no thanks" and "i'm not looking for a relationship right now sorry" type responses, if they even gave me a response at all. One girl gave me her number, I texted her once and she never responded.
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>>37091656
keep joking laughter is how we make due
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>>37092530

you do realize that regardless of your dislike of MBTI, that jung's work(which the mbti is based upon) about functions and personalities and processes of processing information are really quite spot on

sure its still psychology, but jung was on some next level shit
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>>37092387
Why do you assume this is a problem? These traits are real and have been proven in the medical world, not just as disorders like with SPD, but simply as truths common to specific people. I use the term "INTP" because it's a quick and accurate way of labeling myself, though I learned the term well after I firmly understood my personality.

If I were really obsessed with labeling, I might call myself Schizo since I fit several of the symptoms, but I don't because I have no elaborate fantasy world, and I have enjoyed talking to people in the past. Still, I tell the truth when I say that I am unresponsive to praise. My emotions are muted, and I almost never talk outside of my interests because it's not enjoyable. The only friends I've ever had were due to a mutual interest in video games as a kid.

I'm really curious to learn how this is a bad thing, and why you think I can feel like everyone else simply by doing the same activities as them. I've tried it all before, and despite my best efforts, it didn't work. If there's no point in talking to people other than feeling pleasure, and I feel more pleasure by going through the thoughts in my head, why should I ever start a conversation? The same applies to every trace of my personality. I'm sure I am enjoying life less, but that's how it is. It no longer upsets me, I've just come to know that that's how it is.
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Man you people have no idea of what youre missing. When she looks at you like youre the greatest man in the world and she's fully happy in being your little whore its just the greatest feeling in the world

God its fucking amazing
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>>37092585
>Nevada
bucket list updated, I can't believe I missed this. Thanks anon, be sure to use protection.
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>>37092623
>sure its still psychology, but jung was on some next level shit
The field as a whole is mostly credible but Jung was mostly a hack. You have your opinion backwards.
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>>37092585

Complete opposite for me, I'm 26 and care even more now. Video games stopped working on me years ago, I have no hobbies outside work besides exercise/fitness. The pain I feel every day I cannot describe. I feel sick to my stomach about this, it gets so unbearable at times that I feel like screaming as loud as I can at the sky. I legit want to die every day on my way to work I pray someone T bones my car at an intersection. I am in actual physical pain when I go out and see young couples.
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>>37092651

that sounds real nice, but that's probably not an option for a lot of people here

if you're a genetic fuck up women will treat you poorly

hell people in general will treat you poorly, that's just how living organisms are

If what you're saying is a flame that you can keep lit, that's a pretty thought

but honestly what you're saying seems as fleeting as the happiness you can gain from it
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>>37092607

Then what the fuck? What is it that you are doing wrong?
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>>37092633
>"I can't feel feelings" guy
I dunno, have you tried smoking weed?
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>>37092664

>the field as a whole is mostly credible

o am i laffin
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>>37092239
It's a shorter way to say that someone believes in MBTI, is likely an idiot, but it also signifies that they feel they're special enough to warrant a label.
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>>37092651

Must be nice, no woman above maybe a 3/10 would ever look at me like that, its impossible. Only fats have showed even the slightest interest in me. I have been ignored my entire life by attractive women, except when they were forced to interact with me in high school and they scorned me for being born.
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Depression helps numb the pain. An upside is that depression makes you not fear dying.
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>>37092713

not the guy you responded to, and you're right about feeling feelings on weed, but it still doesn't change your default sober state

as a result you start to become more and more dependent on that external substance to feel anything

just a warning
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>thinking it was ever a meme and that he actually had a chance

NORRRRRRRMOOOOOOOOOSSSS GEEEEEEEET OOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
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>>37092705

I'm not doing anything wrong, its absurdly hard to get a girlfriend if you're not model tier where I live.
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>>37092746
>it still doesn't change your default sober state
It can, after a while.
Just a warning.
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>>37092673
In the beginning, all Robots are alike. But as the years go on, something is revealed in their character, you are put on a path beyond conscious choice: entrenchment, or exile.

You tread now the path to normiedom, whether you like it or not. In this, you are exiled. You will shed the Robot's burden, but so too his mind.

The sooner you leave this place the better for all of us.
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>>37092743

>not fear dying

are you sure you don't mean death anon?

because dying is pretty challenging, especially if you're aware long enough to feel pain
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>>37092752
It was more of a coping mechanism for me, to make light of my situation with memes and jokes in order to try to minimize the effect it had on my life, but over time I am beginning to realize that joking and memeing is just attempting to cover up the fact that I am terribly lonely and will likely be lonely until I die.
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>>37092746

Not only that, but if you get high and start dwelling on the fact that you're going to be alone your entire life you will freak the fuck out.
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>be 10 - 11 years old
>some friends are starting to show interest in girls even dating them
>I dont have this interests
>"oh thats alright Im sure I am a late bloomer and eventually I will have interest in going after girls"
>10 years later
>still no interest

Is it low test? Because I do think girls are hot and I jerk off and everything but I just cant bother chasing them
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>>37092774

if by change you mean make you feel emotions in general as your base state, I think you're wrong

I would agree it can change your sober state to some extent, but not in that way, at least not for me

the only thing I saw change was some of my opinions because my perception was temporarily shifted from its go to route and I saw something about my logic I didn't see before

source: smoking weed multiple times every day for 5 years
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>>37092713
No.
>>37092729
Would you deny the existence of the other traits I listed? MBTI has obvious flaws - it cleaves to stereotypes too quickly (Not all INTPs are obsessed with models or complex thinking), and many people don't fit neatly into just one type. It's still useful to describe one type of person and their general world-view without having to assemble it right there yourself.
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https://youtu.be/WVf_hy2eByE
A day to remember-Another song about the weekend
This -might- help.
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>>37092633

Not the guy you're responding to, but "INTP" is part of the Myers-Briggs test, which was created literally by two roasties who were attempting to create a system for marketing women for the workforce, in other words - they were an earlier version of 'wage gap' propagandists. The MBTI thing is now a multi-billion dollar industry which got as big as it is today thanks to corporate and government parternships (I'm in Australia and after years of being a NEET and never once getting referred to a single job by my government-appointed job agency, they did send me [and everyone else on unemployment] to a full MBTI assessment, where some 50 year old roastie who could barely spell 'assessed' us, at the government's expense).

Apart from Introversion-Extroversion and some other very basic things that it asks you to describe about yourself, it's mostly made up bullshit.
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>>37092838
>ADTR
I am now death cringing at my emo years, thanks anon
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>>37092768

Well where do you live? Original
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>>37092633

>this post

wow you are way too much like me, been a while since i've read a post that spot on
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>>37092846
If that's the case, I'll stop using it. What about the test is bullshit?
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>>37092871
hehe oreganalli
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>>37092905

nothing really, he's right about the origins, but it doesn't really invalidate how one of the 16 cookie cutter personalities will probably match everyone in some way

it has more to do with the functions of how you process information than anything
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>>37092905
Not that guy but it's basically a glorified fortune cookie, where past the E/I divide everything is general (and positive - there are no negative results) that just about anyone can look at their descrption and say "lol that's so me XDDD :)".
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>>37092837
MBTI trivializes too many things. Those who have actually interacted with a relatively large amount of INTPs or ESFJs or any one type, know that the personality types give such a vague idea of the person that they're mostly useless in defining or even giving a rough idea of the person in question.
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>>37092673

>I am in actual physical pain when I go out and see young couples

I plan my routes to avoid the sight of couples but even one is enough to fuck my mood for the rest of the day.
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>>37092071
This. I don't really crave for a gf or sex. I just learned to not give a shit and managed to pour that wasted energy into my hobbies which has made life in general feel so much better.
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>>37092633
>My emotions are muted, and I almost never talk outside of my interests because it's not enjoyable. The only friends I've ever had were due to a mutual interest in video games as a kid.

I relate to this. I think I pass for a normie these days but I cannot make friends with or hold a conversation with anyone who does not share my interests or at least have a passion for their own interests and a desire to discuss them with me.
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>>37092846
>>37092944
>other people who realize MBTI is bullshit
wow, thank god. Why the fuck are there daily generals in here with people blamiing their troubles to their results in a test and saying things like "I'll only take a ENTP gf" or whatever?? This shit is modern astrology.
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>>37092509

>you're your own friend, really

INTPs can only find true companionship through tulpas
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>>37092810
Chasing girls is really difficult these days, everybody is very isolated and it is difficult to break through the barriers erected by comfortable social media interaction in order to initiate a meaningful personal interaction. Because it is so easy to communicate through a computer, it is less and less viable to build relationships in person, path of least resistance will dictate that because communication is easier when digital, conventional communication will no longer be prioritized.

This means people move around a lot more, because their personal connections can all be carried in their pockets. It means one can literally organize their personal life as if it were a spreadsheet before them. This micromanaging of social interaction, combined with the fact that people are all separated by such great physical distances these days, means that if you do not posses the modern electronic social media skillset necessary (few robots do) you will find it very hard to build modern relationships, there are no women nearby, people are no longer forced together due to economic or social circumstances as they had been since the dawn of man, and so your only real connection to the outside world is your phone, and if you don't use it you are the equivalent of a recluse, whether you actively "participate" in society or not.

In a way, our digital presences have become our true selves, and our physical presences have become mere avatars - a front for your unique digital interface, a burden used to do what is necessary to survive and nothing more. All other meaningful activity, meanwhile, is totally facilitated by the internet.
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>>37092944
>(and positive - there are no negative results)
this shows you just need a new thing to hate on and found a horoscope-like thingy that pushes all your buttons.
There's little positivity in being typed as "will never be able to connect to other people so just don't sweat it and keep autisming it up on your own". At least read a bit about it before you decide.
Also, is it even special snowflake if everyone gets a label?
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>>37092585
You get the right idea I think. It's obviously not the same for everyone, but I for example could not date anyone. They would get in the way of me living my life. I guess it would be nice to get the succ at least once in my life, but that's what whores are for. If I ever get desperate enough, I'll do that, but so far I've been content with just fapping.
Before I die, I want to visit some countries, go on an adventure on my own and experience things that some countries have to offer.
Someone on my side would only get in the way. Maybe its a byproduct of being on imageboards for about 10 years, but all the people I need to share shit with are on 4chan. Not on /r9k/, but on other boards. I don't need any irl companionship I feel.
This kind of reminds me. It's funny how the older I get, the more I learn to appreciate my hobbies, the more passionate I am about them and I find myself appreciating the simpler things more.
Like last summer I went to a lake on a boat and just sat there, stared at the water and thought about random things. It felt incredible. The younger me would have felt "bored". It's odd how you change overtime.
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>>37091656
funny story, i looked like shit today, sat in front of a couple on a train, and the bf tells the gf you look hot, and i think she mutters i know, and then while theyre leaving for their stop the gf says dont touch me.

i was thinking damn, i wouldnt want to be that guy. this is why im hesitant on relationships now. so much bs.
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>>37092464
i lifted at the gym once, it gave me a false sense of confidence of what i really was, almost narcisstic. i only like the truth about what i really am, so i didnt like the experience.
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>>37093032

Thankyou, episode of Beyond 2000.

In reality... you as a male now have access to all the information in the world on getting your life in order, getting decent nutrition and exercise, and you now have access to women from all around the planet, 24/7. You can literally hop onto your computer at any time in the day - 11am, 5pm, 3am, 6am and find someone to talk to.

In the past you had to gain access to women through social vetting, and the amount of choice you had was significantly limited.
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>>37092651
because youre feeding her you daft cunt!
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>>37093076
INTP with a gf here. It's quite true that they get in the way. Especially when you realize that other people "miss you" (feel bad about not being with you, I think?) and you don't, or that you offend them by not saying hello to other people, that kind of stuff that you simply don't notice anymore. I imagine it's hard for her to even live with me. Unless you find the most understanding woman in your country, there's no point in trying to interact with others.
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>>37093036
So let me see if I got this straight, you're saying I don't have a valid criticism because if some types were inherently "undesirable" no one would use the test?

By that logic, we should just ban the BDI because it might say some people are depressed and we can't have that because that isn't sunshine and rainbows.

>Also, is it even special snowflake if everyone gets a label?
Sure if you get a super obscure type like INFJ as opposed to the fairly common ISFJ.
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>>37092978
why split your bowl in half or pay double when you can have it all for your self?
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>>37093199
>Sure if you get a super obscure type like INFJ as opposed to the fairly common ISFJ.
That's as "special snowflake" as having an uncommon surname. All I'm saying is that you sem to base your criticism on the shit memes you see here instead of looking at the thing itself. For instance the "I only want ENTP gf". That one's very obviously a joke.
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>>37093172

>you now have access to women from all around the planet, 24/7

So they can now reject robots en masse with maximum efficiency.
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>>37093188

I have this problem a lot

I like to avoid pointless pleasantries that don't really lead to anything

that's the only way I can see them, as a pointless waste of breath

but after experiencing others, its very clear that it is meaningful for them to hear that

like I have no issue thanking people for gifts, but I think its kind of silly on some level

I guess its an indication of enjoyment, and when I buy a gift for someone, that's what my intent is, for them to enjoy it

but I don't really want praise, if I did something altruistic, it was because it made me feel happy to see you happy because I appreciate you

I don't want praise for it, and that's how I feel about a lot of people, you know? they want to hear a thank your or hear about how appreciative you are

it feels like something I'm obligated to do rather than something that comes from the heart
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>>37093172
>In reality... you as a male now have access to all the information in the world on getting your life in order, getting decent nutrition and exercise, and you now have access to women from all around the planet, 24/7.
This is exactly what I'm talking about, this is a BAD thing. You are now competing with the world's entire male population, geography is nigh irrelevant in modern dating, and furthermore everyone now has access to all the same resources such that any social "trump cards" you thought you may have had are all worthless, there are a million others across the globe all just as easily accessible. Even the village idiot, in past times, could marry and live a normal life due to the simple fact that there was a limited pool of mates to choose from.
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>>37093346
Lots of things in the INTP's life are like that. I've had to memorize patterns in her behavior so that I know when to ask what's wrong, and I have to push myself to ask when I'd rather let her be sad on her own and see her later when she's more pleasant. It wouldn't be worth it with lesser women.
Then there's the family, which I'm sure I'll leave at some point simply because it's too much of a hassle. Coworkers are easier to deal with.
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>>37093172

the key flaw in your logic, as other anons have pointed out in one way or another, is that females are the sexual selectors for the most part

sure it aids some males, but its a lot better for women since, unless they're irredeemably ugly, will always be able to find a shoulder to cry on
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>>37093346
In a world where nobody cares about anybody or anything for any reason this is not uncommon. When you have a real friend, or someone you truly appreciate, these things begin to matter.
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>>37093353

>You are now competing with the world's entire male population...

You can say that women are all competing against the entire female population too. In reality, different people have different values, there are normies and roasties and women who'll harshly reject you.... but then there is also a constant supply of young, virgin girls who want love. I talk to 16-21 year old virgin girls all the time, many of them are hot as fuck, and they want a partner. Without the internet I wouldn't even know this women exist.

>Even the village idiot, in past times, could marry and live a normal life due to the simple fact that there was a limited pool of mates to choose from.

Just think about what you've said. A man gets the title 'village idiot' because he's unable to escape the social evaluations of those around him. Today, the odds are you simply don't have to settle for a life of walking around a village where everyone literally refers to you as an idiot. Today you can ghost, you can move somewhere else, you can meet people online and have some degree of social interaction based on things other than looks. You could also use the internet to improve yourself and become less of an idiot. Even the 1980's were so much worse than today because of the limitations of geography.
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>>37093346

>if I did something altruistic, it was because it made me feel happy to see you happy
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>>37093449
How do you find people like that, then? Why are normies more successful at finding such people?
Moreover, this kind of implies that any friends we had in the past and don't miss right now were simply never our friends.
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>>37092071

27. This anon is right, you stop giving a shit at a certain point.
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>>37093491

normies are content with shallow, passing relationships
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>>37092810
could be low test, i have extremely low test (<= 5th percentile) and I still think girls are hot and jerk off, but I don't chase them either
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>>37093507
Why? What makes the robot yearn for true relationships and not be content with the shallow?
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>>37093480
>You can say that women are all competing against the entire female population too
Women are the gatekeepers of the dating world, men do not get to choose unless they are very high on the social ladder or otherwise extremely socially adept. This is the case with all other species of ape as well, the women select for the best mate, the males all compete for the female attention.

And I wonder, with regards to your second paragraph, whether it would be worse to be the village idiot or an involuntary ghost in modern society. I think I would prefer to be the idiot, at the very least I would exist, I don't want to be a ghost, I want to be a part of a community.
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>>37093480

Women don't have to compete for anyone besides the "prize" rich Chads. 99% of 5/10 women could approach a 7/10 male and receive sex within minutes if they wanted.
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>>37093540

because we're so weird that the only way we can have functioning relationships is if they are with people who truly care about us and are willing to put the effort in to be our friend

(not trying to imply one-sidedness here, that disgusts me, the robot should have to put work in too)
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>>37093441

>sure it aids some males, but its a lot better for women since, unless they're irredeemably ugly, will always be able to find a shoulder to cry on

I don't believe this is true, and the degree to which it might be true is ENTIRELY a result of what you've already mentioned - that women are the sexual selectors - and this is not changed by modern conveniences. Women ALWAYS held this massive power to fuck men over, and to play the victim and get sympathy. Women have always been more highly valued. The difference is today that global society is open and liberal enough that you can literally ghost roasties as I do - I don't talk to female relatives or grandparents, or women over 30 because all of them have contributed to making my life shit through their being roasties. I can ignore then and find girls who are young and far more decent if I wish to.

The internet, technology, all of these things only help balance the equation. Look at what r9k is - it's full of information that in the past would have been repressed. 50 years ago you'd have some cuck priest brainwashing you every week into believing that being a cuck to a roastie is a good plan. Today you can become fully red-pilled.
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>>37092673

Are you me? I deal with this dread daily. Anon... it feels so good to not be alone in the pain
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>>37093578
it's almost as if
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>>37093610
there are diff women with diff standards
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>Tfw feel okay about being alone unless I see one of those cuddle threads

If I ignore it, it goes away
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>>37093491
Well family members are an obvious example, I care a lot about my brother and I like to let him know I appreciate him, and he feels the same about me.

To form meaningful relationships, in my experience, a certain degree of mutual dependence is required. I make very good friends with my coworkers for example, because at work I need them and they need me, and we are all interested in maintaining a cooperative and positive work environment so going to work does not destroy our soul, it is almost necessary for our very survival to be friends.

I would also say that if you do not miss someone who you believed to be your friend in the past, perhaps they were not such fantastic friends, I miss my friends all the time, many who I have not seen in years.
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>>37093626

>YOU have to be proactive in defending women, black people, transgendered people
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>>37093429
Why put yourself through this? You're faking emotional connection. Surely she's smart enough to realize this. Do you really want to live a lie?
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>>37093655
i would think the tru robot would fall into the rejected by families trope, how many threads do we see daily with the crowd-around-the-table "well look who came out of his cave" caption?
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>>37093626
>blacks women and trannies all lumped together

the fuck lmao.

also gay people are yesterdays dogshit i guess.
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>>37093741

that whole screencap is such a meme its unreal

sounds like something straight off of tumblr
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>>37093562

>I would rather be the laughing stock of an entire village of people rather than connect with people in more meaningful ways online
>t. normie

>>37093577

So you're not concerned about love at all, then. I get it. You're concerned that you can't get a 10/10 Stacey. In reality, many women aren't complete sluts - they want a relationship, but I wouldn't recommend them getting into one with you, because you're the very type of male who, the moment he gets a chance at a better looking woman will drop her for the chance.
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>>37093655
>mutual dependence
this is probably the hardest part and I'm glad I've learned so much by now. Being dependent on others is mostly a foreign notion to me. Coworkers, for instance, fulfill their job and I fulfill mine, and if something breaks whoever can solve it will solve it, but it seems they need me in their lives, not just my skills. That's very strange to me, but I have to smile and perform pleasantries because...
>>37093688
Because it's easier for them, and if others are happy I won't be bothered. My gf is a very special case, since I do "need" her, but she needs me far, far more. I have to take care of a great number of her needs because I do enjoy her company. It's hard to give a shit, but she deserves it I guess? If you don't take care of it, that relationship will wither.
Here's the thing though: she's the one that has taught me the most in "people shit" and the one who understands me the most. No other people have reached this degree of importance to me, to the point that every time someone says "gfs come and go, friendship lasts forever" I have to wonder what kind of gf-like friends the poster has.
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>>37093695
I honestly think that in those cases, robots are truly in a hellish nightmare scenario that ought not exist in the natural world. The family is the nucleus of human life, the lone reason for human existence, it is supposed to be that even if you were to lose everything in the world, you would still have your family, but somehow by some horrible circumstance this just isn't true for some (or even many) people in the modern world.

Familial love can be observed clearly in all sorts of apes, it is a real shame when humans truly fall below the standard set by a typical family of chimpanzees, those "families" or the individuals responsible for the sad state of the "families" should probably be eradicated from the gene pool entirely.
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>>37093763

>all those assumptions made based solely from the fact that he pointed out women can get sex more easily than men

confirmed for toasty roastie or butthurt cuck
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>>37093792

the problem with the modern world is its defiance of nature

people like to think humans special, above other animals

but we're just apes, you can't just get rid of thousands of years of naturally selected traits (including thought patterns)

society is pushing all sorts of trends the alienate us from our nature, the results you can see for yourself
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>>37093953
I believe the key part is the frustration that we can't really know anything. Sure, we have relationships and love and they feel important, but at the end they're just pleasure, and we don't know why they're good other than that we like to have them. Despite thousands of years of technological advancement, we've really only been able to maximize the sense pleasures and minimize basic pain, but even then pain has found a way back in via boredom and overstimulation.

There's no way to win. That's why we're pessimistic.
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>>37094010

Do you know how bad its going to look when you're in your 30's, still alone, still a virgin, no gf ever, your parents have never seen you with a girl. Its not just pleasure, when you get older in the professional job market an older single guy is looked down upon. The alphas now have families and kids, furthering their legacy.
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>>37092673
>>37093591

Thanks for sharing. I too know this pain. I have to be nice and sympathetic to people at work but everyday there's a voice yelling inside my head that just keeps getting louder that I should just die.

Life is just empty. I'd never be able to kill myself though so I pray for something outside of my control to happen that will just make everything end. I'm getting a lot more paranoid about people too.

I don't believe they're actually happy. How could anyone enjoy doing this everyday? they have to be lying and the fact that they're so convincing just makes me hate people even more.
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>>37092157
I'm about to turn 26. You come to terms with it. No tears, only dreams now
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26 year old kissless virgin. I'm content on dying alone.
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>>37091656
23yo loser here

The worst is when you come to terms with the fact that you're too weak to do anything to change your conditions and too cowardly to just end it.

I just want to be brave for a half hour. This is torture.
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>>37094105
I'll do fine. I'm on a successful path right now, and if I make the right connections in the next few years, my basic competence alone should secure my career. Even if I fail, though, it won't be that bad. A big house, expensive car, and wife/kids have never appealed to me. It's trite, but happiness is often more how you view your situation than the one you're actually experiencing. That means if I find some hobby which makes my life fulfilling, the other things won't be an issue. Currently, philosophy seems promising. I used to settle for apathy as the dominating law of life, and took sitcom-level existentialism as the basis for my world-view, but now I want to know more. Even if life is shitty, I want to know why that is and why it can't be any other way. I've been suppressing that natural questioning urge within me for so long that I've come to feel dead inside, and embracing it now is liberating. Art feels hollow to me, and that's a fact, but if I can know why it's hollow then I'll be happy.
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>>37091656
Anyone else considering becoming gay/ into traps just out of sheer desperation? I know I have no chance with any woman ever, but is it just my autism making me consider the homopill?
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>>37094229
We're peasants senpai, we have no power, not an ounce of natural talent in our entire bodies, we couldn't change even if we mustered everything we have.

Modern liberal democracy and its utopian ideals has fooled the human race into believing an underclass does not truly exist, that all men possess infinite and equal potential and are only truly inhibited by circumstance and self-motivation, but this is a new thought, throughout the majority of human history, people like us were simply of a lesser stock, and it was an inescapable fact.

In any other age our destiny would be set in stone - we toil, we enjoy what we can while we can, and we die, but in this modern world we are not even afforded enjoyment. Enjoyment is reserved for the "go-getters", those who "deserve it", the world holds us to impossible standards, the standards of a greater stock than we truly are, and will refuse to afford us even the slightest relief unless we meet these standards. We have no place in this society.
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>27
>fit and ok looking
>but disabled and probably shouldn't/can't work
>lives with parents, probably wont ever be able to afford an apartment
>wont settle for being a stepdad or the totally insane
>cucked by all two girlfriends I've had, I don't trust as well as I used to
>lock up like a sperg even in casual conversation
>have some sort of strange fetishes

Sometimes for long periods of time it feels really fucking bad but if it's a choice between that or dealing with some chad's kids or someone without a moderate sense of self awareness or at least the want to do better in life I'd rather be single.
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>>37094447
also raised in a religious cult so there's a bunch weird shit that comes up with intimacy for me in general
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>>37094332
I'll never be sucking dick desperate. I think you just might be gay
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>>37094504
I don't mean suck dick, but letting a trap suck your dick
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>>37092095
ISTP here, similar problem, i brought my own house at 21, have a close friend from highschool days renting with me to cover mortgage payments
he just out of the blue one day asks ''do you actually even have emotions?'' there was no weird or deep prior conversation a few days beforehand or anything
iv basically given up any hope of having an actual relationship, i just cant seem to ever be more than friendly with anyone, i dont even know how to aproach or start being close with people
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>>37093763
>many women aren't complete sluts

lollllllllllll cuck
have fun getting cucked
cuck
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>>37094447
this is exactly me
originalshizz
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>>37092776
lol do you know how weird you sound m8
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>>37094550
people notice man even before we do, they realize the lack of actual feels, this is why I don't have a gf the lack of ''tact'' or ''sensitivity''
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>>37091656
Tfw youmurder any chance of being happy just to protect yourself from the world
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