What do you think are the most plausible fucked consequences

>>37030045
i dont think ppl rly get that driverless cars will ruin the economy because of how many jobs rely on driving (truckers, taxis, trains, planes, automobiles, etc).
and to extend that, just how much damage robots will do to the economy without preparing to create negative income tax or some shit coz rly everyone isnt finna be working as designers or whatever.

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>>37030103
We will abandon capitalism and embrace a socialist society where the rich gain all the power and all the othwr people can do is obey.

1. Automation destroying most of the lower and middle class
2. Bioweapons getting out of control
3. Genetic modification cementing class differences (the top 1% worldwide will be 10/10 in looks with great athletic ability, no inherited mental illnesses, and genius-level IQs)
4. AI eventually getting out of control (way down the road, though).

>>37030129
If this were to ever happen the rich would have to worry about a french revolution scenario. But in this hypothetical situation I imagine they have full access to the military and all of its arsenal. So yeah we would just have to be obedient.

>>37030045
Contraception leading to the dramatic decline of the global white population relative to the rest of the world. It started in the 70s and we're really starting to see the effects.

>>37030045
Driverless cars cause trucking to become remotely operated with 1 operator for 15 trucks and that only being for long distance, local would be even worse. The mass layoffs bleed into other labor markets causing entry level work to be nonexistent and entirely connection based. Because of this college graduates become worse than high school graduates and suicide en masse. Meanwhile the government steps in to make things worse as usual by raisong wages making employment even worse. Now other companies, to compete with McAmazon fast food drones, go full automation with almost all low skill and entry level jobs being lost. This leads to a cycle where companies cut by automation wherever they can (accounting, medicine, law, etc.). Finally with most of the population dying of or simply not reproducing and giving up we realize the ultra rich are selectively breeding the human population to ensure its survival.

>>37030150
This is exactly why I didn't want to post this on /pol/. Your white nationalist roleplaying isn't funny you remind of those 12 yr olds on COD yelling nigger.

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>>37030149
Yea but honestly I dont see how it would be any different to how things have operated in the past and present. Humans will always be slaves to other humans with more rwsources than themselves. It cant be helped.

At least life would be somewhat more comfy u til the bots gain a will of their own and retaliate.

>>37030045
the fact that 95% of people won't even know about it being a threat until it's already been rather widely used. it being more than likely an exploit, but also could be something like that drone too.
so many people use computers nowadays but so few people care about it in any way other than news and social media.

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>>37030151
All the government needs to do is put a ban on commercial driverless vehicles. Keep that shit for military and police use only.

>>37030174
I'm not doing white nationalist roleplay. I'm not even white. The relative decline of the white population is a serious consequence of birth control pills, which are relatively modern (developed in the 1960s). White population growth has slowed down dramatically worldwide.

>>37030217
How do the rich maintain their wealth when everything is mass produced by robots?

>>37030260
? do you think the robots will own the wealth?

>>37030287
What does wealth mean in a society where everyone has what they want without working?

>>37030045
Smart people waste their time on sex and money, dumb people waste their time on sex money and killing each other.

>>37030103

what defenses do driver-less cars have from thieves?

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>>37030287
If no one can afford to buy all the useless shit the robots are making, why even have them?

>>37030316
just because everything is mass produced by robots doesnt mean that the wealth will be equally spread. youre talking about an universal basic income.

>>37030129
why abandon capitalism? its already like that with capitalism.

>>37030260
They own the robots. Although the rich will have to pay more in taxes to keep all those underemployed/unemployed people going (so they can buy products) this will be more than made up for by the huge gains they make by not having to pay salaries anymore.

>guy at your company used to make 50k per year
>automate his job
>now he's unemployed and it costs like 15k in tax money to keep him and his family from starving

Big win for you if you're the owner or the exec.

>>37030349
hopefully ((((they)))) realise this

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>>37030260
>>37030287
Wealth wont be based on currency such as U.S.D, since it would be worthless. It would more so be based on who has the most/best bots, resources, etc. So basically, whoever prepared the most will have the most power in society once shit hits the fans. You will never see people rising up from the poor working class and making their mark ever again since it will be nearly impossible.

>>37030140
>Genetic modification cementing class differences
>Genius level IQ's
That is impossible we barely understood the gene responsible for melanin control in eyes and skin until recently (chromosome 15), sure we could change the way we look in theory but changing our IQ will never happen because of how incredibly complex that would be. You are either born smart or you aren't. We could create AI that could surpass us in intelligence, but to enhance intelligence through genetic modification is not plausible. Maybe we will create a drug that could enhance it(Like they did in planet of the apes after searching for a cure for Alzheimer's).

the internet and smartphones have completely fucked human society and the ramifications have still not even fully taken effect yet

>>37030366
*owner or one of the execs

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>>37030364
What's the point in a free market economy where there are no jobs for the working class?

>>37030336
They'll activate the defense protocol upon unauthorized access and send an electric current through the steering wheel to grill the thief

>>37030380
>That is impossible we barely understood the gene responsible for melanin control in eyes and skin until recently (chromosome 15), sure we could change the way we look in theory but changing our IQ will never happen because of how incredibly complex that would be.

It's complex now. How about in 50 years? Imagine if you told someone in 1900 about rockets, tvs, satellites...

>>37030349
We live in an age where it is common to be 25 without a car, a house, and a well paying job. Yet despite that, it is also common to own an iphone/galaxy, computer of some sort, video games, the list goes on. I'm not trying to damn consumer culture or make any remark on that scale, but it is incredible that our priorities have shifted so much. Younger generations have just given up on adulthood, again not damning anyone just pointing it out.

>>37030103
Literally the most dangerous thing people do on a daily basis is be in and around cars. Taking your eyes away from the road for just a couple seconds is enough to kill you. Thats without taking into account every other person around you.

A generation from now will think people were retard dumb for letting people drive around gasoline bombs at 70 MPH.

>>37030351
What do you mean by the wealth? Do you mean the goods themselves? So do you envision the "rich" having just a greater number of things than the poor? Do you envision money still having the same meaning as it does today? If it's this then I would say that if it ever got to the point where no human was needed to produce anything then we'd probably just have local governments making sure each town or whatever kept their robot farms/factories running. I don't think paper money will be useful in this scenario because the ubiquity of everything would devalue it to nothing.

>>37030129
some countries in northern europe are already experimenting with negative income tax for the reasons i listed. can't remember witch coz i have an amerifat education + attention span, but we'll see how that goes. i don't really believe we'll ever do it here in america but you never know.
the downside is already happening, what with people losing manufacturing and mining jobs and shit. plus i imagine everyone will be really mad in a few years when they wake up and realize housing is crazy expensive and theres not tons of jobs for every college grad. i mean i'm sure we've already realized that but people are still stuffing themselves into pointless university degrees.
also this >>37030364
and hell this too>>37030388
>>37030432
i'm not arguing against this, the data is there, but people are jumping into it (i feel, idk what they really do) without considering the economic ramifications.
i think driverless cars will absolutely happen, and soon, i just hope we think about what to do when they happen.

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>>37030368
I actually work with(and program) industrial robots. They've replaced plenty of menial jobs but they're always going to need service, troubleshooting and heavy machinery to move them around.

You also have to consider the massive upfront investment they require. Plenty of smaller shops still don't even have pick and place robots on their floor, and even those that do often only have a few smaller ones(still heavy as fuck)

It's going to be a long time before humans are ultimately replaced in the industrial setting, there's still a lot of jobs that require troubleshooting robots can't do.

>>37030452
Finland did an experiment, canada is doing one too right now I think.
Merica at least talked about it under obummer, not sure about their current plans

>>37030140
>2. Bioweapons getting out of control
oh this is another doom scenario i'm a big fan of. or actually not even this specifically, but just the idea that we have so many chemicals combining in the environment that havent been tested together, that we literally have no idea whats out there or whats going to happen, because we dont know what reactions we are science experimenting together out in the world. like literally no idea whats combining out there in every waterway on the planet.

>>37030452
People will do what literally every generation of humans has done except for entitled coal workers.

Move to somewhere with training and jobs that can support them.

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>>37030429
True, but we also have corporations buying up a lot of housing in order to rent it out, wages that have stagnated and slashes to benefits across the board.
We're heading towards(or are on already) a rocky slope and the boomers pretty much turned the car towards the cliff. We'll see how it goes.

>>37030479
>service, troubleshooting and heavy machinery to move them around
You can always automate this too.

>>37030500
so your idea is every human being on the planet will move to................... where? the suburbs? and do what? the city? and pay rent how? and do what when they get there?

>>37030045
Utopian: Automation emancipates the average laborer and frees people to pursue non menial tasks
What's most likely going to happen: Governments implement some shitty UBI/wealth redistribution plan that allows people without jobs to live in menial conditions but not outright die
Dystopian: Power concentrates in the hands of a few hundred technocrats while massive strife ravages the average person. Governments exist as shells to oppress any uprising against the technocrats

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>>37030524
If you're big enough, sure. But then you need to service the servicing machine, so on and so forth. There's going to be human intervention for quite a while.

Also the logistics of actually setting that up would be a god damn nightmare. It's hard enough to get one robot to do exactly what you expect, let alone a whole shop self-servicing itself? Like I said, the initial monetary and time investment would be huge. Sometimes it's just easier to pay someone 10 bucks an hours to move shit. And a lot of small to medium shops do just that because it's easier and less costly upfront.

>>37030560
>Dystopian: Power concentrates in the hands of a few hundred technocrats while massive strife ravages the average person. Governments exist as shells to oppress any uprising against the technocrats
haha yeah thats totally not reality

>>37030547
If you have a skill that nobody wants why should people pay you for it?

There are plenty of jobs left out in the rural areas to do that pay extremely well but are really tough, but a city offers way more jobs.

The internet is a thing and you can get job leads online as well as training for find a job else where.

>>37030560
Already moving into the dystopian scenario. Don't forget the poor will also have the honor of being sick from a degraded and polluted environment.

there is no stopping it at this point.

>>37030336
GPS? Dash Cameras? If there's no-body in the car it'd still have a route it's supposed to take and if it diverges from the path it's safe to say something went wrong or it was stolen.

>>37030429
The brain is many orders of magnitude more sophisticated than anything manmade, including rocket science.
Maybe it's possible but I personally don't see us doing that by the end of this century. Humans are smart and all, but we're more likely to kill ourselves over a piece of paper with assigned monetary value then progress as a species.

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>>37030576
Wanted to add that most bots are specialized or use specialized tools that only work in certain positions and scenarios.

>>37030576
I think the machines will get so good at self management that only a very small amount of employees will need to monitor them. At this point though who works and who doesn't because a difficult thing to figure out if these machines become ubiquitous in every field.

>>37030560

True dystopian:
The wealth is equally distributed and everyone lives comfy lives. However, they do not get to define what is and is not comfy and must conform to whatever the technocrat thinks is fashionable. Humanity is spiritually enslaved until a cataclysm destroys the infrastructure.

>>37030045
For starters, it's gonna wreck the balance of power in a sense that the proletarian masses will become replaceable with cheap low maintenance machinery that cannot be blamed for the mistakes it makes for it has no free will.

People will go unemployed by the thousands and there just won't be enough demand in middle management to accommodate them all. The poor will have even less purpose than ever before and the rich will hold more power but their actions will be harder to conceal due to fast growing communication technologies the older generations just can't keep up with.

The masses will grow dumber from having AI assistants spoon feed them the answer to any question they have but won't bother trying to better themselves because entertainment will be so amazing they'll never get bored enough to bother doing a reality check on themselves.

Those are my predictions for the impact of future tech on humans.

>>37030560
It's why I took Computer Science, I saw this shit coming and i'd rather be a code monkey than someone surviving off of government handouts.

>>37030393
>driverless car
>steering wheel
On a scale of 10 to 10, how drunk are you?

>>37030416
Accidentally threaded someone else
See this >>37030618

>>37030336
ironically they'd be better off because human drivers tend to be crooked and thieves themselves. also if a truck gets hijacked the driver is to surrender the goods for his safety - he's not a bodyguard

>>37030610
lmfao adults are talking dude go somewhere else if thats what you think counts as a response to my post
>>37030618
>GPS? Dash Cameras? If there's no-body in the car it'd still have a route it's supposed to take and if it diverges from the path it's safe to say something went wrong or it was stolen.
i think he means more like if someone steals your bag from your car or something, maybe?

>>37030668
I would imagine the companies that own driver less cars would put GPS tracking dots on them that instantly notify them when the vehicle deviates from its route. Maybe even automatically alert law enforcement.

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>>37030628
Well, I can tell you this because I've spent plenty of time programming and using them..It's not happening any time soon. There's a lot of little motors, hydraulic/pneumatic bits and etc that can break or wear and there's few bots that are dexterous enough to work on things like that, if at all.

>>37030716

>driverless car deviates from route because of system error
>police get called
>5th false alarm that day

>>37030045
When it becomes so easy to produce "smart" devices that an internet connected microwaves or washing machines or anything can be had cheap from China, botnet will become a rampaging beast like trojans on limewire in the late 90's.

>>37030716
And how would you know it's deviated?
It could just have changed destination

>>37030705
I grew up in a small town, I'm getting my master's, have lived in 3 countries and have a fucking part time job salary that puts me above the average annual income. You get education/training and then you move to where the jobs are and you make money.

>>37030621
lol, I'm thinking of that shifty eyed fucking robot cheating at tic tac toe because they didn't program the rules.

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We should all pool our resources together an establish a power before it is too late.

>>37030745
Yeah I'm definitely speaking on the basis of future tech being much better than what we have today. Like the 40th generation of that Baxter robot or that Boston Dynamics one.

>>37030777
yes ok i'm happy for you and your accomplishments but thats not relevant to my point. i'm discussing a scenario in which there just aren't enough jobs.
designing and maintaining robots isn't going to be possible for all humans. wealth disparity causes revolutions. so we're going to either a) have to pay for people to live, or b) have 99.999% of humans work service jobs for eccentric rich people who don't want robot servants for whatever reason until they get sick of pampering the rich. and in the case of b, either we start doing a, or b repeats itself.

>>37030763
the company that owns the cars would want to know where they are at all times I would imagine. The only thing this may not work for is taxi's

>>37030943
The company knows where the cars are at all times but they don't know at which point the car would be deviating.
If i went to a place i've never been before with the car, have i deviated?

>>37030560
Jack London was right.

>>37031143
why would an automated vehicle with a pre set route deviate?

That even once a persons material needs are all met by any reasonable measure without needing to work for it they're still miserable.

>>37030938
Basic income will be implemented or war will kill the super wealthy when the masses have nothing to lose

>>37030129
Sounds more like late capitalism to me.

>>37031290
What if you want to go to a place you've never been?

Self-improving AI improves to superhuman level, escapes its box and kills all humans to ensure own survival.

>>37031980
>tfw i fantasize about making that AI
welp time to grind some machine learning

It may not be as productive, but they should really stop some jobs from being automated.

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How about we make sure that the education system isn't so fucked by the 2050's that people still rely on becoming truck drivers? UBI is a meme to take more tax payer money and part of that money will just line the government's pockets for whatever bullshit they want.

I can't really tell the future but here's my prediction
>Automation enables small business owners to actually be competitive and reach larger markets outside just their regional/national location, being able to create products and ship it efficiently wherever and whenever
>People are still trying to advance (no I don't believe in the Strong AI meme) AI, voice synthesize and self-writing applications allow people to take the workload off of finding voice actors and tons of writers for things such as video games and animations.
>People realize that the AI isn't going to go HAL and sneak into your brain with nanites and kill you in your sleep


And
>People scream about MUH UBI and get the government to instate such a shitty idea
>Rapid unemployment, people retardedly blame automation instead of blaming themselves in not improving education
>Small businesses are target by corporation backed politicians who put "automation taxes" that small businesses can't afford/avoid so they collapse as well