>finally figure out what "just be yourself" actually

I don't like dressing well. I like my faded high school death metal t shirts and jeans.

>>37027543
>literally just dress well and be clean

Then you aren't just "being yourself", you're conforming to social norms to give you an advantage at getting laid.

>>37027573
>Then you aren't just "being yourself", you're conforming to social norms to give you an advantage at getting laid.
So you're saying you would rather be aesthetically unpleasing for what reason?

>>37027543
>You literally don't have to be even remotely attractive to get women
You probably have some attractive features. What is your body type?
Height
Width of shoulders
Wrist circumference
Dick size
Facial aesthetics on a scale of 1-10

>>37027543
Yeah, "be yourself" is just another way of saying "be confident in who you are". Getting girls is easy, getting a good girl is nigh impossible in the current state of western society, so just pump and dump

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>>37027711
or just quit working and start doing drugs and play videogames all day

>>37027666
for the reason of beeing myself

>>37027672
>5'11
>never measured
>never measured
>around 6"
>been told I'm an 8 by some, been told I'm a 6 by others, gonna go with 6 since they were being honest and not trying to flatter me
How'd I do?

>>37027711
>"be confident in who you are".

NO wonder robots can't get laid. It would axtually be much easier to be fake and wearing a normie mask than to restructure your own beliefs about yourself.

>>37027737
Didn't matter who he was, he had chemical confidence to ride on.

>>37027672
>Height
6'2" I think
>Width of shoulders
20" across
>Wrist circumference
7"
>Dick size
6.5" long, not sure about girth
>Facial aesthetics on a scale of 1-10
Can't rate that honestly. People have said I'm a 6 before, so

>>37027711
>getting a good girl is nigh impossible in the current state of western society, so just pump and dump
Literally what are you talking about?

>>37027543
No one will ever like me for being myself.
I give up.

>>37027543
cow slut have a name?

>>37027751
>average height
>at least a 6
fuck outta here with that "bee yourself" shit then

>>37027846
>excuses
>excuses
>excuses
Yeah, why bother trying when literally everything is stacked against you for no fault of your own, right? It's so much easier that way.

>>37027784
>Height
>6'2" I think
>Width of shoulders
>20" across
>Wrist circumference
>7"
>Dick size
>6.5" long, not sure about girth
>Facial aesthetics on a scale of 1-10
>Can't rate that honestly. People have said I'm a 6 before, so

>don't need to be attractive at all
>measurements are all above average
>literally Chad proportions
>just be yourself
Fuck off.

>>37027873
Literally, just fuck outta here.

This thread is stale ass pasta that's been posted a million times. Always the same average dudes talking about how everything is so easy.

>>37027846
Yeah, /fit/ would just make fun of me for being a manlet, and here you are saying I'm tall. I appreciate the flattery, but hate hearing people say self degrading things.

The same advice goes, be confident in who you are

>>37027976
>be confident in who you are

easier said than done. this is the hardest thing for a robot to do.

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>>37027543
who is this cowtit?

>>37027543
This is the fucking dumbest shit I've ever heard. You wanna know who I am? I'm a depressed, self hating, socially retarded loser with absolutely NO drive or motivation and a terrible sense of humor. I'm also a budding alcoholic who dabbles in hard drugs. Women aren't attracted to any of those things and they never will be. And if there was one who was, I wouldn't want anything to do with her because she's probably more fucked than I am. So go to hell with that shit. This is probably bait anyway but it worked so go fuck yourself.

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>>37028128
Just be confident and stop making excuses, Anon! :^)

>>37027742
a better phrase would be, "the best possible version of yourself"

>>37028013
>be young and autistic
>have trouble approaching and talking to people
>my dad somehow noticed this even though he only sees me after work at around 9 or 10pm
>summer break hits, and he forces me to come to his office with him
>takes me to events and meetings and simply makes me watch what he does and how he does it
>dad runs a successful clothing industry with 5 factories, so he's doing really well
>realize the greatest Chad Thundercock, was none other than my dad
>start taking note of him
>try to approach people like him and have conversations
>find similar topics and discuss things in detail with people
>no longer dripping spaghetti, can even confidently talk to girls now
>break ends
>go back to school
>somehow build up to become one of the Chads despite my autistic past
You just need to build yourself up and approach, given your past here, discussing anything should be relatively easy. Just "be yourself"

>>37028201
Not even ironic, if that anon was confident, he probably would have gotten a girl.

>>37028339
Yeah, we didn't all have great parents to guide us in our formative years you fucking retard. Why can't you just admit that you got lucky and are the exception rather than the rule?

>>37028406
Because I am trying to guide you. The hardest part is the approach, once you do that, the rest you can already do since you can shitpost here

>>37028514
Money has nothing to do with this. It's about confidence. Half the shit you say doesn't matter as long as you say it with confidence.

>>37028515
I mean honestly do you literally have Down's syndrome? An entire summer gaining real world experience with your father is not something that can be duplicated with one night of online shitposting.

>>37027543
>5 inch dick
Yeah no, waste of time. They will laugh once I pull that out.

>>37028339
>try to approach people and have conversations
>Awkward, can never think of what to say next, stomach is in a knot
>It never improves
>Actually got worse after working as a cashier for two years

>>37027543
>The rest is all talk.


Please tell us more about the talk OP.

How do you talk? What do you talk about? When do you talk about it?

>>37028515

No one needs or wants your guidance, that's the problem. You arrogant, narcissistic, spoiled, little goose cunt normie.

>>37028571
It doesn't need to. My dad may have forced me, and I can't do that to you, and I haven't shitposted her just one night, but many nights. I want to see you grow to be better people. I want you to understand that what you wish you had is within reach, all you need to do is stretch your hand out.

>>37027899
>>37027910
>be a fat robot NEET all my life
>finally figure out the very simple principles to getting laid
>suddenly I'm a chad on easy mode

Lol. It really is easy guys. Everything you're doing to impede yourself is only making it more difficult.

>>37028128
You don't get it. There's a reason people that get laid say "just be yourself". It doesn't mean what you think it means. Also, stop acting like your laundry list of solvable problems is what's stopping you from moving forward. It's your reluctance to put any effort that's stopping you, and nothing else.

>>37027543

>The rest is all talk.

Wow if only I had known. It's not like I'm socially inept or anything.

>>37027751
>>37027784
>not manlet or dicklet
Kek of course you can "be yourself" you stupid fuck.

>>37028626
Years of depression and being beaten down by the world aren't just going to go away because I read your stupid fucking threads. If you think otherwise, you can't relate in any way to my experiences or those of a vast majority of your target audience.

>>37028616
Not OP but let me ask you, what do you talk about here? Or any other board? Do you go to /pol/? /v/? /ck/? Any of the hobby boards? You discuss things there right? It's the same. Bring up a topic with a smile and a confident voice and something will definitely come out of it.

>>37028634
>It really is easy guys.
It's really easy because you were literally Zyzz, a Chad that didn't exploit his potential but when he did he became a Chad like all others.

>>37028639
>5'11
>not manlet
Sure buddy

>>37028616
>How do you talk? What do you talk about? When do you talk about it?

I talk about whatever I want to talk about in whatever way I want to talk about it, whenever I want to talk about it. You guys are acting like attractive women are a minefield you need to navigate, which makes you look like a pussy and gives the woman all the power. Once you start walking on landmines without giving a fuck, subsequently demonstrating that you don't care what that woman thinks, you take away their power and don't look like a pussy.

An ugly woman and an attractive woman are the same thing, a woman. It's just that guys are typically a lot more confident around ugly women because they feel above them, and it seriously increases their chances. Just do that with attractive women. Act like you're above them, which you are.

>>37028689
By that logic, how do you know you're not a Chad with unused potential?

>>37028634
>it doesn't mean what you think it means

Thank you for doing your part to spread sanity in this hellhole.

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>>37028639
It's ok, just believe in ur confidence and be super confident as confidently as you can be :^)

I used to be a autistic neet too but then I realized all you gotta do is beeeeee yourself,. That's it

>>37027976
>Yeah, /fit/ would just make fun of me for being a manlet
Because you are so stupid you actually tell them you are 5'11 so they can laugh at you. You can tell them you are 6'0 and they will stop laughing.

>>37028634
If you were short and ugly you would still be a virgin.

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Funniest post I've read today.

I dress well, and I never go out in public looking scraggly. In other words, I'm always clean and shaved.

Too bad I'm fucking 5'7". I'll keep trying though because I'd rathe get rejected 500 more times than live a life of self-pity.

>>37028639
This is why I always ask for objective measurements when I see a "just be yourself" or "you dont need to be attractive" thread. It doesn't work if you're a manlet with feminine proportions (narrow shoulders, etc)

>>37027873
Yeah call me back when you can increaee my height from 5'6 to 5'11 and my dick from 5.5 to 6.5.

>>37028727

> 5'11"
> manlet

Try 5'5" on for size. Lamao. I was doomed from birth.

>>37028719
Every hot girl has a million more attractive, more intelligent, more competent guys chasing her.

>>37028722
Yet he never explains what it means.

"Confident" is such a meaningless buzzword. At this point Im starting to think it actually means "not a virgin" and that's all.

>>37028717
>literally can say you are 6'0 and nobody will notice
Retard.

>>37028749
None of that matters dumbass
Be confident in who you are.

>>37028719
>By that logic, how do you know you're not a Chad with unused potential?
Because I am 5'5 with a 5 inch dick, that's why. You think Zyzz suddenly increased his height when he started working out?

>>37028769
It means to understand, acknowledge and be positive in your own identity. Not to think of failure before even trying but thinking of the next step after success.

>>37028776
>it worked for me so it should work for everyone else
You should really put
>:^)
at the end of all your posts you ignorant fuck

>>37028776
>Said the tall guy with a big dick

>>37028769
I'm >>37028722. "Just be yourself" basically means to be your best, assertive, unapologetic self. It means to be exactly the person you believe you were meant to be. For example, if you're beta and you just go with things you're not okay with, you're not being yourself. To be yourself means to listen to yourself and to do what's best for you even if it's scary or difficult or whatever. If someone replies to me saying something like "well myself is a depressed KV loser" or something, that's not really them being themselves, those negative qualities are inhibitions on the real them.

>>37028730
I know short and ugly guys that aren't virgins, don't know why I would be.

>>37028733
>>37028749
>have problem that is incredibly easy to work around or compensate for
>might as well give up lol
Well, it's your life man

>>37028769
>Every hot girl has a million more attractive, more intelligent, more competent guys chasing her.
First of all, no. Seriously, no. You have seriously blown up how much power pussy has. And not a lot of guys go after attractive women because they all have this "I'm so scared of trying because of how great she is and shitty I am" attitude you guys are adopting.

>Yet he never explains what it means.
It means don't take other people's opinion into account when you're choosing to do or say something. You're all considering "oh what will she think of me if I say this" and it's taking away from you. Just say what you want to say, do what you want to do, and stop caring. "Girl, I don't care if I'm 5'4", I'm still way above you".

I wish I could meet one of you sorry fucks and force you into the Chad regiment.

>>37028832
>compensate
Meaning I will get cucked down the road for somebody who doesn't need to compensate.

>>37028799
So.. what? Give up then? Just, forever, fuck it all?

>>37028918
>why fuck women if those women will eventually want to fuck someone else
I don't think you know what "cuck" means

>>37028923
>Give up then?
Pretty much. I can still try to enjoy life doing other shit.

>>37028832
>And not a lot of guys go after attractive women because they all have this "I'm so scared of trying because of how great she is and shitty I am" attitude you guys are adopting.

Fuck off, PLENTY of guys go after the hottest girls. The average normie definitely will. Every femanon I talk to has at least one guy orbiting them. Have you ever seen what a female dating site profile looks like? Dozens of messages daily.

>It means don't take other people's opinion into account when you're choosing to do or say something. You're all considering "oh what will she think of me if I say this" and it's taking away from you. Just say what you want to say, do what you want to do, and stop caring. "Girl, I don't care if I'm 5'4", I'm still way above you".

So you take a shit on the floor when you need the bathroom because you shouldn't care how others judge you?

>>37028941
I would understand it if it was just a random one night stand or a whore, but if it's a girl you loved for real, it will be sad, not only in fear that she will leave, but also over the fact that you are not good enough to satisfy her as much as you would have liked.

>>37028858
I'm not someone who sits around in self pity making excuses but evidently I can't into a relationship. I say that as an ongoing soon 28 y/o ongoing virgin forever alone. I'm not interested in going around banging sloots

>>37028947
>Fuck off, PLENTY of guys go after the hottest girls. The average normie definitely will.
Nope.
>Every femanon I talk to has at least one guy orbiting them.
Orbiting is the exact opposite of "going after".
>Have you ever seen what a female dating site profile looks like? Dozens of messages daily.
You, the guy who only has the confidence to talk to people on the internet, is saying that real life interactions are no different to ones on the internet. Well, nigger, what's stopping you from talking to women with the same confidence you're arguing with me with?
>So you take a shit on the floor when you need the bathroom because you shouldn't care how others judge you?
Are you intentionally trying to be retarded? You're doing mental gymnastics to give you excuses to not try to correct your shitty situation. You know very well what I'm talking about and are trying and failing to argue with a strawman.

>>37029007
See, you got to let go of your ego. Shit like
>but if it's a girl you loved for real, it will be sad, not only in fear that she will leave, but also over the fact that you are not good enough to satisfy her as much as you would have liked.
is what gives women power over you. If you're with a girl, and she fucks someone else, go get another girl. The fact that you are deathly afraid this hypothetical woman won't view you in high enough regard is what keeps you jumping through her hoops.

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>>37028858

What's the Chad regiment?

Also, look, GUYS, if Ryan Gosling could become a Chad then so can you!

>>37029062
I honestly think that you're either just a fucking idiot who's flat out lying or an underage high school kid who's excited cuz a pretty girl smiled at him and now he thinks he's figured it all out. You clearly have no real world experience and underestimate just how entitled women are and how they actually feel about bottom of the barrel men like us.

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>it's "a some autistic asshole doesn't realize he's average-moderately attractive and mistakes that as "confidence" and "bee yourself" that applies to everyone's personal circumstances and tries to parrot it on /r9k/ to "help" other anons but just wants attention and some "yous" episode again
I hate summer reruns. This thread has been done probably thousands of times at this point

>>37029062
>If you're with a girl, and she fucks someone else, go get another girl
You misunderstood. That's just part of the problem. If she fucks another person, she was a bitch indeed, even if only deep down.

The problem for me also comes if I find a loyal girl I like, and know that she would be much more satisfied if she was with someone else that had better stats.

robots think this is bait because they've been trolled so much but this literally got me pussy for the first time irl and a gf

>be yourself
>make eye contact
>dont overthink things

If I turn off my filter and b myself, I almost immediately launch into complaints. About the music, the weather, my life etc.

>>37029062
>Nope.

Every hot girl complains about getting hit on everywhere she goes.

>Well, nigger, what's stopping you from talking to women with the same confidence you're arguing with me with?

I want them to like me and don't want to be rejected. I can say whatever to you because I want you to die in a fire. I can't get over rejection and there's nothing I can do about it. Embarrassing memories flood my mind every night and prevent me from sleeping. Each attempt doesn't make the next one easier, it only gives my brain more ammunition to use against me.

>>37029279
Fuck anon I relate to every word of what you said. Honestly baffling that these people don't get that.

>>37029235

> be yourself
What does even mean anon? Define it in your words and how you've "bee yourself."
>make eye contact
Have hideous dark eyes, people actually avert gaze when I look them in the eye.
>don't overthink things
Once again.. can we get some actual examples of this?

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>>37029235
>>make eye contact

oops

>>37029235
Being myself is not going to stop her from laugh at my 5 inch dick and spreading rumors.

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>>37029279
>>37029421
it only gets worse and worse

>>37029143
Okay, whatever you say man
>>37029202
Bro, we would all be happier if we had better than what we have now. It doesn't matter if she'd be happier with a better person because you would have proven you're the best she could get.
>>37029279
>Every hot girl complains about getting hit on everywhere she goes.
Oh yeah? How many hot girls do you talk to regularly?
>I want them to like me and don't want to be rejected.
Well then stop caring. Congrats, you've found the secret. Stop caring about this exact thing in particular. Just turn it off.
>>37029426
>What does even mean anon? Define it in your words and how you've "bee yourself."
Act according to your personality. Don't act according to how other people would prefer your personality to be.

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>>37029562
>Well then stop caring. Congrats, you've found the secret. Stop caring about this exact thing in particular. Just turn it off.

WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S THAT EASY
IF I COULD DO THIS I WOULD, HOLY SHIT
DO YOU THINK I WANT TO BE EATEN ALIVE BY THIS SHIT

>>37029631
What's stopping you? What is stopping you from just saying "I have this fear, but I am not going to take it into account for my further actions"?

>>37029562
>Act according to your personality.

I don't even know what this is. If I acted the same around my coworkers as I do with my online friends I would be known as the guy who speaks in memes and racist jokes.

>>37029674
Umm, not the guy you were replying to, but maybe like legitimate anxiety problems and mental illness?
Holy fuck. You just lost all of your validity.

>>37029674
It's not the fear, it's the IMPACT that rejection leaves. It's like saying you're going to cut your finger off but not lose your finger.

>can only wear sweatpants because of autism related clothing sensitivities
>hair looks unkempt no matter how much I gel and comb it
>look ugly as fuck clean shaven and with short buzz cut

Nothing will change once you guys get laid. My mind is actually blown that some of you care about putting your dick in pussy once to lose some title you put your integrity to. If your goal is an intimate long-lasting relationship then fine, but being a virgin doesn't matter in the least.

>>37029691
>If I acted the same around my coworkers as I do with my online friends I would be known as the guy who speaks in memes and racist jokes.
This is exactly what I mean. Just don't be afraid to speak in memes and racist jokes.
>>37029703
>Umm
You're stuttering while typing. You're a retard. Feel free to leave.
>>37029718
>It's like saying you're going to cut your finger off but not lose your finger.
Except it's not like that. Getting rejected doesn't actually do anything. You before being rejected is exactly the same as you after being rejected. What's the worst that could happen? Nothing. Nothing is what will happen.

Explain to me exactly what will happen to you if you get rejected. None of this "my fee fees get hurt" bullshit. The entire reason you're getting rejected is because you're not acting like a man, and you say you're not acting like a man because you're getting rejected. Fucking fix yourself.

>>37029743
This is pretty true. Getting laid is a fun recreational activity at most.

>>37029743
One normie said he lost his virginity last year at 30 and since then he'd fucked 20 girls because getting laid made him realize how much easier it was than he thought.

>>37029562
>It doesn't matter if she'd be happier with a better person because you would have proven you're the best she could get
Not really, maybe better guys have proposed but since she is loyal now she would be attached to me by force.

>>37028682
>what do you talk about here?
Usually just my pathetic life. Racial bantz.

IRL people just laugh at me or call me sad when I talk about those things. I chuckle along with them and everyone seems to have a good time, but nobody ever wants to be a close friend.

>>37027784
>Literally what are you talking about?
Getting a long term girlfriend who wasn't a whore in the past.

>>37029765
>the "you're stuttering while typing" bit
Thanks. You just confirmed my suspicions that you're a troll. Have a good one, buddy.

>>37029790
>Not really, maybe better guys have proposed but since she is loyal now she would be attached to me by force.
See, that is what we call straight up delusion. You're implying you shouldn't have to try to be better than other guys who want her because you've already got her locked down. That's the same mentality women use to justify getting fat after marriage.

>>37029765
>Explain to me exactly what will happen to you if you get rejected.

The memory intrudes my thoughts for years and years, keeping me awake at night and keeping me from thinking about anything else until it decides to go away.

>Just don't be afraid to speak in memes and racist jokes.

I should become a social pariah who would be seen as the racist who makes jokes that nobody gets.

>>37029793
>IRL people just laugh at me or call me sad when I talk about those things. I chuckle along with them and everyone seems to have a good time, but nobody ever wants to be a close friend.

I know that feel man. All in high school and college I'd sit with te guys and make them laugh but they wouldn't invite me anywhere.

>>37028339
I could never reach the levels of Chadness my dad did. I mean still, if I need to talk to someone, I do it without an issue but I can't really get myself to approach someone with the sole purpose of small talk and getting friendly with them.

I once got in a girls pants pretending to be mute because of a thyroidectomy
Literally didn't have to say a thing, just wrote it all done

>>37029840
My dad's a regular normie but thinks social competence just comes to everyone naturally. He can't grasp the concept that I'm afraid to talk to girls, he thinks I'm just not interested.

>>37029819
>Getting a long term girlfriend who wasn't a whore in the past.
Why do you care what she was in the past? Will your fragile ego get a bruise? What if she wants a guy who wasn't a total neckbeard pussy in the past?

>>37029826
k

>>37029829
>The memory intrudes my thoughts for years and years, keeping me awake at night and keeping me from thinking about anything else until it decides to go away.
I guarantee it'll stop if you nut up and land a bitch.
>I should become a social pariah who would be seen as the racist who makes jokes that nobody gets.
Women with a good sense of humor respect a guy who can pull off an edgy joke. Too many guys try to be edgy and come off as phony, so if you really are into edgy racist jokes then roll with it and play it up. Be genuine. I offhandedly call women "bitch" all the time and because I'm being genuine they respect it.

>>37029859
>Chad needlessly brags as always

>>37029718
Well anon, rejection only really hurts you if it's one of the girls that you will have to keep seeing every day and interacting with. Or a girl from your environment that has mutual friends with you and she can (and will) talk about it with them.

Otherwise rejection doesn't hurt at all. I mean yeah, it does hurt when 20 girls in a row reject you but every individual rejection feels like nothing. Nothing at all.

>>37029892
>Well anon, rejection only really hurts you if it's one of the girls that you will have to keep seeing every day and interacting with.

Not to me.

>every individual rejection feels like nothing. Nothing at all.

Not to me.

>>37029872
Back in school when I knew people who shared my humour, all the guys thought I was hilarious whereas all the girls thought I was disgusting.

>>37029865
Well girls probably think that too. I've noticed that girls tend to overthink things and the way they think is very schematic, you can literally learn them.

For example, I noticed that if I meet a girl off of tinder it's the only way for me really and don't attempt to do anything sexual with her, even if we both know she'll say NO to this attempt, she'll think I'm not interested and won't want to hang out with me. On the other hand, if I do try something like this, she will think I'm interested and she might let me do more later.

But yeah, my dad also thinks it's weird I don't just talk to people. He can literally approach anyone for small talk. I don't know how he does it.

>>37029914
>Back in school when I knew people who shared my humour, all the guys thought I was hilarious whereas all the girls thought I was disgusting.
>Back in school

Oh well case closed then.

>>37027822
>>37028097
abby darkstar

>>37029934
The only difference now is that all my coworkers are old ladies and normie teenage girls who seem to exist in another dimension.

>>37029872
>Why do you care what she was in the past? Will your fragile ego get a bruise? What if she wants a guy who wasn't a total neckbeard pussy in the past?
Uhh... You ask me why do I care what she was in the past but ask me about her caring about the guy's past?

Either way, it's not about my ego. It's just about predicting what will she do. I've already tried going for the girls with the past and truth is that they're fucking garbage. They never love you like they did their past 10 boyfriends and they're prone to just moving on to another one the second a better one shows.

>>37029914
Have you ever actually tried being rejected for once in your life? You gotta practice that shit man. Desentisize yourself to it. That's what I did. I've been rejected a countless times now. Yeah it sucks because I failed pretty much every single time. But at least it doesn't even hurt that much anymore.

>>37029980
>They never love you like they did their past 10 boyfriends and they're prone to just moving on to another one the second a better one shows.
Well then just be better then. She can't move on to someone better if everyone better than you is going after women better than her. Either way, if she goes out and fucks another dude, give some other girl your attention. Dudes want sex, women want attention, that's how it works.

>>37029960
Any of the old ladies hot?

>>37029827
>shouldn't have to try to be better than other guys who want her
I CAN'T be better. Some people simply have more potential. Also things like dick and height cannot be inproved either.

>>37030014
>Well then just be better then. She can't move on to someone better if everyone better than you is going after women better than her. Either way, if she goes out and fucks another dude, give some other girl your attention. Dudes want sex, women want attention, that's how it works.
Dude are you dumb? There's always someone better than you. Always. And if you're giving your attention to another girl then what's the point?

Playing those retarded mind games with those girls is pathetic.

>>37029771
Sounds like a one in ten million story. Getting a job changes you more than losing your virginity does. Even making a friend can be more impactful.

Sex is nice, but half the popular drugs out there feel better if you're just being a hedonist.

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>>37030014
>Well then just be better then. She can't move on to someone better if everyone better than you is going after women better than her.
Sometimes hoes are just hoes man. Everything can be perfect and they will still fuck some other dude.

>>37027742
>I am unclean and unhygenic
>No i dont want to fix it its what makes me me lol

Fucking leave

>>37027761
It's sadder than you think. Your chances multiply when you dont hate yourself and you are able to convince yourself that every girl you talk to wants you just as much as you want her.

Those two things alone step up your social game 100x.
Then all you have to do is show you are comfortable being yourself(so no fake behaviour, no fake opinions, no fake compliance)

Confidence =\= I love me!!!!!
Confidence = This is who I am and im not diluting it.


That being said, being a dick =\= confidence. You can be a confident douche and an unconfident douche, both wont get you men.

Respect, confidence, and self-discipline are what make women idolise you.

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>>37027543
>ywn meet cute at a costume party

>>37030025
>I CAN'T be better.
And that's why you can't get laid. Not because you actually can't be better, but because you're resigned to being beta bitch boy.

>>37030039
>Dude are you dumb? There's always someone better than you. Always.
Pay attention. Be so good that the only dudes better than you are chasing girls better than the one you got.
>And if you're giving your attention to another girl then what's the point?
Dudes want sex, women want attention. Woman starts giving her sex to a guy other than you, flip it on her and give another girl your attention.

>>37030056
Yeah, exactly. It's part of living that kind of life. It very well may happen, there's a decent chance of it, so don't go acting like it's not worth it. You're bound to get food poisoning every now and again, doesn't mean you have to avoid all the food in the world to protect yourself. Eat the food, roll the dice, and if you get food poisoning take a big violent shit and move on to a different restaurant.

>>37030122
>you are able to convince yourself that every girl you talk to wants you just as much as you want her.

I think one of the main differences between normalfags and robots is that normies are able to believe the lies they tell themselves.

>>37030142
>>37030142
>Yeah, exactly. It's part of living that kind of life
I know. I'm getting pretty good at distinguishing between women and hoes but it is pretty hard. I just notice certain shit that I didn't notice before. Most of the time it is very obvious what type of girl she is and if you should pump and dump or try to cuff her.

>>37030199
The way I see it, just don't elevate things. If she's a hoe, she'll stick with the casual fun. If she's a good girl, she'll want to take things to the "next level" or whatever.

>>37030122
I realize now that this is cult thinking. Hurt yourself while lifting? You didn't know what you were doing. Ruined your reputation hitting on girls? You weren't being yourself. Malnutrition due to a vegan diet? You didn't do enough research. Lost your shirt from investing? Should have picked some other index fund.

Anything to take the blame off a faultless anonymous community. Reddit does this to a T, but any community that gives risky advice will act like this.

>>37029771
Yeah well the thing is that when you hit 30 you are FAR more desirable to women than you'd be at 20. At 20 girls only look at Chads, but at 30, when they suddenly realize that they're lonely as fuck and Chad goes for younger girls, they tend to look at 30 year old normal guys and they are really into doing literally everything to lock down a guy with a stable job. The sex they give is amazing.

but I don't want be clean

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>>37030014
>Any of the old ladies hot?

They have grandchildren.

>>37030142
>Pay attention. Be so good that the only dudes better than you are chasing girls better than the one you got.
It's 2017, anon, this shit is not possible. Even ugly girls want Chad and they always get one. You can't be the best guy out there.

>Dudes want sex, women want attention. Woman starts giving her sex to a guy other than you, flip it on her and give another girl your attention.
Again, what's the point then? I don't want a girl like this I want a normal girl who will give a shit about me and be loyal to me.

>>37028128
You could easily get a girl with daddy issues, if you actually tried that is.

>>37029723
get a beard trimmer and trim on the lowest height.
You want that 1-2 day stubble look.

Get shampoo and conditioner with argan oil. Use daily in small amounts.
Only ever use a small amount of gel ever. I'm sure you are using gel as a catch-term, but gel is the worst looking hair product imo. Gel's make you look creepy or tryhard 95% of the time. I recommend pomade or some hair wax.

Sweatpants and hoodies can still be fashionable as long as you put in the effort to make sure they are kept clean. Dont wear video game, movie, or comic sweatpants/hoodies, AVOID GRAPHIC TEES.
Invest in having 2-3 pairs of nice lookshoes. Match sweatpants and hoodies to those choose. Create a couple different "fits", then bam! you can still wear sweatpants 24/7 and still be considered good looking/fashionable. Also, Dark blacks, milky grey, salt/pepper, and snow white are all pleasing shades that work with baggy sweatpants clothing. For color throw in some pure red, pure yellow, or ppure cyan clothing. Avoid heavy patterns with baggy clothes.


you can do this

>>37030249
I'm 24, live with my parents, am overweight, and make less than $200 a week. Guess I'll just wait six years and rake in the pussy.

>>37030224
Honestly I just don't want to waste my time with hoes anymore. I would just rather be alone. I don't see why people waste their time pretending to care about people. I got too much other stuff to do. My personality just makes me prefer to just have some thing stable with a one women.

>>37030296
Get a job first and foremost. Girls won't care about you being overweight really but at 30 the "date your league" starts to actually work. If you can lose weight, you'll get more and better quality girls.

Either way, you will be getting girls. You should already be seeing some results at around 25-26.

>>37030330
Yeah same here but too bad that no woman actually wants me for an actual relationship. One where she sometimes initiates things too. I can't keep the initiative on me all the fucking time. I don't really have the time to talk to girls 24/7 and then do cool shit with them.

>>37030279
>It's 2017, anon, this shit is not possible.
Yeah, I mean, it is the CURRENT YEAR.
>Even ugly girls want Chad and they always get one.
Ugly girls fuck a lot because guys can be more confident around them, making them easy. If you're confident around more attractive women, you'll have less competition, because not many guys are. It's a problem that solves itself.
>You can't be the best guy out there.
Someone has to be.
>Again, what's the point then? I don't want a girl like this
That sucks
>I want a normal girl who will give a shit about me and be loyal to me.
Loyalty is not a factor here. You're trying to find a mate, not a friend. A friend will stick around because they like your personality. A mate will stick around because you've proven yourself to be a good enough mate yourself. If you're a shitty mate, your potential mate won't stick around. You don't get to have loyalty from women, you have to earn women sticking around. You have to earn a woman picking you over another guy. That's the nature of being a man.

The problem is that you've let anime fuck with your perception. You've gotten the idea that regardless of how good you are, some great bitches will become diehard loyal to you if you have good enough intentions. That is not how that shit works. Your potential mate will stick around and do what you want if you prove that you're worth it, you have to prove that they benefit from sticking by you. Loyalty is not a factor. Get over it.

>>37030370
Already have a job but looking for a second because I'm only getting like 15 hours a week.

>Either way, you will be getting girls. You should already be seeing some results at around 25-26.

Without even trying? Neat.

>>37030330
I can respect that. Like I said, fucking is just a recreational activity, that's it. If it's too much work in your opinion, or you don't value it that much, feel free to not go after it. I just feel it's worth explaining how easy it is to the people who want it and can't seem to get it.

>>37030395
>Ugly girls fuck a lot because guys can be more confident around them, making them easy. If you're confident around more attractive women, you'll have less competition, because not many guys are. It's a problem that solves itself.
Kek are you for real? This might only work if you're already attractive as fuck, anon. If you're not, then confidence won't work. I'm a guy who tried this shit and it just didn't work. But I noticed that attractive girls have autism too which is funny.

>Someone has to be.
Part of growing up is realizing you're not gonna be the guy. Not everyone gets to be the astronaut.

>Loyalty is not a factor here. You're trying to find a mate, not a friend. A friend will stick around because they like your personality. A mate will stick around because you've proven yourself to be a good enough mate yourself. If you're a shitty mate, your potential mate won't stick around. You don't get to have loyalty from women, you have to earn women sticking around. You have to earn a woman picking you over another guy. That's the nature of being a man.
I agree to some point although loyalty is the factor here too. Women can stick around only for so long until another guy appears. Then it's up to their loyalty to tell the guy to fuck off because she already has you, even if you're objectively worse. My mom is one of those loyal women but then again, she's old as fuck and it was different times back then.

>>37030414
>Without even trying? Neat.
For the most part, yeah. But you might need to be at least receptive, anon, and when they give you signals, take the opportunity.

Don't worry though, the signals will be obvious as fuck. You can't miss them.

>>37030449
>If it's easy for me it's easy for everyone

>Lol unoriginal

Holy shit how retarded are all of you?

Be yourself does NOT mean be yourself. Because the yourself you have, is hideous and repulsive. Are you all seriously this dense?

>>37030546
>Be yourself does NOT mean be yourself.

Then why don't they say something different?

>>37030238
Eaxactly.
Like, /r9k/ one day tells you that all women are dumb whores and that you need to be chad thundercock in order to get them.
So from then on you think that in order to get with most women, you need to be more like chad thundercock.
This is you starting to be insecure/dishonest about yourself without you realizing it.
Because now you arent behaving yourself, you arent going to find a woman attracted to you because not all woman are attracted to the same qualities.
Since you view women as dumb whores who only like chad thundercocks, you are training yourself to only behave in a way that allows you to cater to/attract dumb whores who only like chad thundercock.

One problem now, is that you arent chad thundercock. And since you arent being Anon now either, you arent a real person at all.

Rejection is good. For the confident man, a rejection isnt being "not good enough" its a litheness test.
If you treat all women like they are interested in you, and are capable of being more than shallow whores, you will behave in a way that can only attract the kind of woman that would like you for who you are. And to women what type of person you are really doesnt matter a lot as long as you come off as "high value"

Confidence shows high value. Being insecure and dependant on others opinions of you, shows low value.

Its so simple but so easy to not see the forest through the trees.

>>37030395
>>37030395
>Loyalty is not a factor here
It is most certainly a factor. Some women just aren't loyal and some won't even be honest to you about it. Men and Women do this actually. They can have the perfect relationship and still want to fuck around because people are greedy. I just want to weed through these hoes and hopefully find a women that is worth it.

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>>37027543
>You literally don't have to be even remotely attractive to get women
>mfw
>literally just dress well and be clean.
Isn't that part of being attractive?

>>37030562
Because people dont want to appear mean.

>>37030583
But Chad gets girls because he's confident and all girls apparently like confidence. 90% of normies suggest "faking" confidence until you believe it somehow.

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>>37030481
>This might only work if you're already attractive as fuck, anon. If you're not, then confidence won't work.
If you're saying your confidence won't work then it sounds like you were never confident to begin with.
>But I noticed that attractive girls have autism too which is funny.
That's exactly what the fuck I'm talking about. Autists can easily deal with other autists but sputter and break down when interacting with a non-autist. Be confident, nigga.
>Part of growing up is realizing you're not gonna be the guy.
No the fuck it aint. Part of growing up is figuring out how you're gonna be that guy.
>Not everyone gets to be the astronaut.
Someone fucking has to be.
>I agree to some point although loyalty is the factor here too. Women can stick around only for so long until another guy appears. Then it's up to their loyalty to tell the guy to fuck off because she already has you, even if you're objectively worse.
No, it is not loyalty. You've demonstrated that it benefits her to stick with you in one way or another. Establish your dominance, faggot. Stop being such a faggy faggot, faggot. Show that bitch how much better than her you are.

>>37030612
>They can have the perfect relationship and still want to fuck around because people are greedy.
It's not greed, faggot. People are animals, animals want to fuck. Stop trying to deny it. You are not so great as to find a woman who will give up her fake purity just for you. You are not that special, stop letting your ego get in the way of getting what you want.

>>37030635
"Faking" can have its consequences if you ever decide to be in a serious relationship.

>>37030664
They all say by that point you'll have convinced yourself of your confidence. I don't get it (nor do I get the notion of not caring what other people think of you) but whatever the fuck.

>>37030653
>Someone fucking has to be.

You can only be an astronaut if you were born within a certain height range.

>>37027543
>it's a Normie figures out he's been a Normie all along episode
Just as bad as the "I used to be a robot" reruns

>>37030653
>It's not greed, faggot. People are animals, animals want to fuck
If that isn't greed what is it? We're humans, stop acting like we are dogs in the street. I can get casual sex, finding someone worth a relationship is the hard part obviously. Just because I want to fuck someone, doesn't mean I want to be in a relationship with them.

>>37030081
>Fucking leave
i can't. i'm here forever

>>37030142
>Not because you actually can't be better, but because you're resigned to being beta bitch boy.
Again, call me when I can change my height and dick size, fucking retard.

>>37028339
I think my dad tried his damndest to pull the autism from my bones as a child. He really did.

I think living with my mom fucked me up a little.

>>37030735
Who gives a fuck? There is millions of bitches out here. You just got to wave through the shit to find someone. If she doesn't like you then so fucking what? Fuck that bitch and on to the next one.

>>37030692
Well then be some other great shit. Astronaut is not the greatest thing there ever was. There is no objectively best man just like there is no objectively best profession. Try to be the best at whatever you are. If you're under 6' tall, try to be the best under 6' tall fucker you can be.

I have a bad case of murder face. I got greasy hair and bags under my eyes, I look very pepper-sprayable and rapey. So I work with it. I try to be the best rape-face lookin guy I can be.

>>37030726
>Just because I want to fuck someone, doesn't mean I want to be in a relationship with them.
Fucking duh. And just because the girl you're with wants to fuck another dude, doesn't mean that she picks that other dude over you. You can fuck some other girls, she can fuck some other guys, past, present, future, whatever. Stop letting your ego get in the way.

>>37030735
>no woman has literally ever been with a short guy with a below average dick
Yeah, fucking give up, pussy. If you're gonna let some insignificant shit like that get in the way then you deserve all that nothing you get.

>>37030768
>fucking give up
i already did though

>>37030768
>And just because the girl you're with wants to fuck another dude, doesn't mean that she picks that other dude over you. You can fuck some other girls, she can fuck some other guys, past, present, future, whatever. Stop letting your ego get in the way.
Nah that's the waste of time I'm talking about. Bitches want to be hoes but be treated like ladies. Fuck outta here. Like I said, fuck wasting my time on a woman like that when I can find one good one that will improve my life instead of waste my time. Fuck kinda being a relationship or fwb or all that stupid shit. It's a waste of time and energy.

>>37027543
Being myself means being nervous to approach women because I have crippling self confidence issues

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>>37028634
>finally figure out the very simple principles to getting laid
All you had to do was lose some weight. You were already tall, and you had a good face underneath your fat. I'm also taking a shot in the dark and assuming you're not balding either.

You see, when you're a manlet pic related happens (not him but I've had a similar, less extreme experience).

>>37030735
finally, a post i can understand.

>>37030768
>bags under my eyes

y'know there's ointment/cream for that.

>>37028515
Lol no
You're just a condending fag memeing like the hundreds before you

>>37030818
just fake it till you make it breh

>>37030818
>Now for the part where OP distorts the meaning of those two words

>>37030768
>no woman has literally ever been with a short guy with a below average dick
Not unless the guy is exceptionally good looking, has power (i.e. is the son of a politician) or rich. Fuck off.

>>37028626
I won't ever get what I want because I wasn't lucky or genetically gifted for it

Don't respond, I know your continue with your just world fallacies. You all do.

>>37030735
Stop complaining about stuff you can't control and make the best out of the situation and improve yourself instead of being a little bitch about it. Life has bumps in the road. You just going to lay down the minute it gets hard?

>>37028858
come visit me. i'm from socal

>>37030879
>You just going to lay down the minute it gets hard?
y-yes ;_;

>>37030635
you misunderstand what confidence means.
Its IMPOSSIBLE to fake confidence in the sense you are using it.

Confidence is literally being yourself without changing how you act/talk out of fear of others opinions.
Confidence is admitting you like anime when most people would hide it out of fear of being laughed at by normies.
Confidence IS NOT thinking you are the best and you cant fail.
Confidence IS not caring if you arent the best or that you failed, but being ok with it.
Confidence isnt being loud and the center of attention.
Confidence is being comfortable in any circumstance, not worrying too much over failure or people judging.


Confidence is you walking up to that QT and telling her EXACTLY what you want to tell her without changing it out of fear for coming across weird or being rejected. Confidence is not acting ashamed of your interests in animes/video games/etc when the topic is brought up. Confidence is looking like you are enjoying the opportunity to talk to her, but not being upset or dependent on her approval.

I am talking from expereince when I say I get better treatment from women now that I've stopped hiding my powerlevels. I dont go out of my way to show off, but I do not hide or dilute my feelings anymore.

>>37030812
>Nah that's the waste of time I'm talking about. Bitches want to be hoes but be treated like ladies.
Well it's not a guarantee, m8. If they act like ladies, treat em like ladies if you really want. I treat them like hoes regardless. Again, a big problem you guys have is putting pussy on a pedestal.
>fuck wasting my time on a woman like that when I can find one good one that will improve my life instead of waste my time
The fuck does that mean? If you enjoy having a woman around, have her around. Why does all that past enjoyment you got from having her around suddenly become null and void if she wants to act on her nature?
>Fuck kinda being a relationship or fwb or all that stupid shit. It's a waste of time and energy.
Well then don't do it, I guess.

>>37030822
I haven't lost any weight, I've gained actually. And like I said previously, I have really bad rape face. I'm a mix between Evan Peters and Henry Lee Lucas.

>>37030870
>Not unless the guy is exceptionally good looking, has power (i.e. is the son of a politician) or rich.
Can you prove that? Go ahead, prove it. Prove that your personality literally has no impact whatsoever.

>>37030932
I've never concealed my interests, but I don't talk about it much either because I'm not good at making them seem interesting so nobody wants to listen. I'm not going to be that rambling autist who keeps talking about Final Fantasy even though nobody in the room even wants to know what it is.

>>37030959
>I haven't lost any weight, I've gained actually. And like I said previously, I have really bad rape face. I'm a mix between Evan Peters and Henry Lee Lucas.
Being that as it may, you're still 6'2. That puts you leagues above any manlets or even average height men. You cannot deny this, unless you're just that dense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbG05ePWRQE

>>37031013
My brother is 5'8" and he never had any trouble getting laid his whole life. I only recently figured it out. You're acting like you not being tall or whatever is the nail in the coffin. It's not. You can work around it easily, but you won't because then you won't have any excuses. You just gotta keep looking for more excuses.

>>37028339
Is this bait

>just gotta be yourself
>don't mind the fact i have a dad who is a extremely successful businessman and thus incredibly socially skilled

I think personal responsibility is a thing but your post is still gay as fuck

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>>37030932
slow down there autismo

>>37027543
>the rest is all talk

That's the issue

>>37031057
>You're acting like you not being tall or whatever is the nail in the coffin
It's not the only thing. I'm also bald and have acne scars all over my face & body. And I have flat out been rejected due to my height before. Your comments are as insipid as listening to some rich fag talk about how awful his life is and that money doesn't buy you happiness.

>>37030674
>>37030635
to continue,


When people tell you to fake confidence, they dont mean it like you think.

Its seems you are taking it as "be confident, be like chad, act like a frat boy who is smug and prideful 24/7"

Faking confidence means that, even though you feel like this girl will laugh at you for liking anime or that you have 0 chance with a girl, you tell yourself otherwise anyways and try it.

The goal of "Faking confidence" isnt to be someone else, but the opposite. Its about being yourself even when you think you will get laughed at or that yourself isnt good enough.


>Real confidence
Thoughts: I'm a valuable person who is doesnt need to pretend to be someone else or feel ashamed of who I am.
Actions: Hi this is 100% who I am, not pretending to be anyone else

>Faking confidence
Thoughts: I'm think flawed and not good enough for people im attracted to, but they dont need to know that I think that.
Actions: Hi this is 100% who I am, not pretending to be anyone else

>fake confidence(the kind you are mistaking)

Thoughts: Women/society all have a standard I dont fit, but If I just improve my game and be more like chad/manlier I'll get women
Actions: Hi, this isnt the real me but you wont know that until getting to know me. That is if you stay around long enough and not see through the inconsistent act im putting on.

>>37030822
>blaming bad genetics

manlets never learn

>>37031156
>I'm also bald and have acne scars all over my face & body.
So do a lot of people. You can get that treated if it really bothers you.
>And I have flat out been rejected due to my height before.
Oh yeah? How many times? Specifically how many times?
>Your comments are as insipid as listening to some rich fag talk about how awful his life is and that money doesn't buy you happiness.
You suck at analogies. How is me saying "this thing is super easy to achieve if you have this simple switch in mindset" in anyway like that? Draw me a fucking line linking the two.

>>37028719
What are you, fucking stupid?
An ugly girl doesn't have a million guys trying to fuck her. You know what happens when you play the I'm better then you card?

Nothing

Because she has a million better looking guys she could fuck or date or the other 4 million who will eat her shit straight from her ass

>>37031196
Yeah bro people are manlets by choice.

>>37031176
Dude stop giving advice because its awful.

>>37028832
No?
Nigga how stupid are you?
How in the FUCK can you say some shit like that in this age and time?

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>>37031236
>An ugly girl doesn't have a million guys trying to fuck her.
>Because she has a million better looking guys she could fuck
Bro do you read what you type?

>>37031306
I said multiple things to multiple different people. You're gonna have to be more specific.

>>37028832
And then she laughs, walks away and fucks Chad telling him about how some loser thought he was "Alpha"

>>37027572
I'm 38 khv and I still dress like that lol

Don't end up like me dude

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>>37031340
That's some self perpetuating shit. You think you're pathetic because she rejects you, she rejects you because you think you're pathetic. There's an easy way out.

If Rich Evens can get laid, so can you.

>>37031317
You're such a bottom feeder you believe ugly girls don't get laid? Seriously do you have any friends. Let alone girls who are friends?

>>37031367
Boy you must be a special kind of retarded to have reading comprehension this bad. I have said the exact opposite of what you're accusing me of saying, numerous times, throughout the entire fucking thread, and here you are with your dumb ass.

Fucking pick up a book, nigga, you dumb as shit.

>>37031362
>she rejects you because you think you're pathetic.

Whatever you say.

>>37031384
Yea that was bad, misread. Still you are pathetic as fuck

>>37031413
Sounds like you just fear failure more than you want to succeed. Stop dwelling on the bitch that doesn't like you and go talk to some other girl.

>>37031419
>Figure out that interacting with women and getting laid is easy
>Try to help robots by explaining how easy it is and show them there is no reason they can't get what they want
>but I'm pathetic

Alright boyo

>>37031413
I'm more referring to women in general. 1 out of 10 women will reject you cause you're short or whatever, 10 out of 10 women will reject you because you're a huge pussy who's scared of making a fucking effort.

>>37030988
if you are talking about final fantasy in a room full of normies, that isnt confidence, its a lack of awareness. which is low value behaviour, which is unattractive.


My above post was trying to show the difference between confidence that attracts people, and the fake confidence that doesnt work and that frusterates most robots.

Confidence, in your setting, would you not being ashamed or acting weird if another another coworker mentions or grills you for liking final fantasy.
insecurity is telling your coworkers you dont like or play video games because you dont want them to think you are the loser that you are afraid they'll think you are.

Its not just about concealing/opening up, its the fact that you are comfortable with it that makes in you confident.

Fake confidence "BY the way guys, I love final fantasy, im such a nerd. And even though you all dont want to talk about it, im alpha so that means I should still talk about it"

Real confidence "Hobbies? Nothing impressive, I'm honestly really into anime and video games." "Thats kinda lame anon, playing call of duty in your basement all day" "Haha no its even worse than that, I'm into games like final fantasy."... Than you transition with a joke about it and move onto talking about her.


First example isnt aware of social settings/stigmas, therefore his confidence is coming across as clueless and stupidity.
Second example is confident and not ashamed, but aware of the social stigma against video games so he acknowledges the stigma with a self-depreciating/shamleess joke

>>37031294
its not awful and its not my advice. I'm passing on advice that changed my life. You can be skeptical all you want, but you are nothing but a spineless moron if you are doubting what ive been saying.
I'm not even giving much advice, im more so clarifying the confidence misunderstanding that trsp so many men into failure without understand about what confidence really is.


Read Models: Attracting Women through Honesty if you really care.

>>37031454
If you put yourself in a position where you can be rejected, you're making an effort.

>>37031494
I can't think of jokes around girls.

>>37031536
Yea it sounds like you really have it figured out

>>37031560
>If you put yourself in a position where you can be rejected, you're making an effort.
Yeah sure

>>37031454
>If getting laid is easy for me it must be easy for everyone

I can't not care what others think of me. It's not a thing I can shut off or lessen in any way. Trying only makes it more severe.

>>37027543
>The rest is all talk.
this is where the problem is my man

if you could get women by not saying a word, life would be so much easier

>>37031575
ou have to show interest and open yourself to the possibility of it not being reciprocated in order to be rejected.

>>37031586
>if you could get women by not saying a word, life would be so much easier

A girl approached me in the library once and I couldn't say a word. We are doomed.

>>37031494

why is anime more socially accpetable than video games these days

>>37031582
>I had trouble doing a thing because I didn't know how to do it
>Now I've learned how to do it
>Here's how to do it
>NUH UHHHH CLEARLY YOU'VE HAD A MAGIC DICK THIS WHOLE TIME AND ONLY RECENTLY UNLOCKED IT'S SECRETS CHECK YOUR CHAD PRIVILEGE

>>37031494
I don't have shit to talk about with normies besides work and the weather.

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>>37027543
>>37027751
>You literally don't have to be even remotely attractive to get women
>is attractive
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
every fucking time

>>37031638
>Probably never gave a shit what others thought of him to begin with

>>37031582
This is such a toxic mantra around shit internet forums. You aren't special. The reason you don't get laid is because of you. Stop whining, stop complaining. We all experience the world and have hardships. Comparing them is pointless. I could compare your suffering to starving children in Africa, or let alone rape victims, or people persecuted for their religious beliefs. Fucking do something with your life instead of bitching all the time, my god.

>>37031655
What're you laughing about?

A lot of guys kinda default to just agreeing with girls, and acting like they like all the same things, which is dumb. Negging girls is equally dumb, though. That's just overcompensation. You really just should be yourself, or maybe realize that a certain good-natured contrarianism is part of flirting.

Just be yourself

>I want to fuck this girl, but she has a goofy ass haircut
>"Hey girl, just so you know, you're attractive enough that I want to have sex with you, but I don't know if I like your goofy ass haircut"

Then move forward from there

>>37031638
>literally Zyzz who always had it in him, just needed a push
>COME ON MAN U ARE NOT AS TALL AND YOUR DICK IS HALF THE SIZE OF MINE BUT HEY WE ALL GONNA MAKE IT RIGHT?
Kill yourself.

>>37027543
I'm 5'5" and have failed in literally over 50 encounters

Wanna know when I've actually been successful? With Tinder experiments where I put myself down as 5'10-6'2, only online of course.

I guarantee that you're in that height range.

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When will attractive people realize that they wouldn't be treated the same if they weren't attractive?
Is this such a hard concept to grasp?

>>37031756
But that's not something myself would say.

>Just be yourself means saying things that anon thinks you should say

>>37031713
>You really just should be yourself, or maybe realize that a certain good-natured contrarianism is part of flirting.

Being yourself is no good if you have severe low self esteem. Its not like some switch where you turn your personality into something attractive.

>>37028291
>the best possible version of yourself
By whose standards?

>>37031756
"Being yourself" in colloquial terms, doesn't mean acting like you're an unfiltered drunk.

>>37031787
It's something I would think, and subsequently say. If you think a woman has nice tits, use that.

>>37031799
Being honest works for me. What method do you use?

>>37027672
>Height
5'4"

>Width of shoulders
Within average for height of girl

>Wrist circumference
Very small

>Dick size
6"

>Facial aesthetics on a scale of 1-10
In general, probably like a 7 facially. But for a trans girl, that makes me like a 10. Small, Asian, passing, good voice, dress well, get bwc

>>37031756
>Shit that works if you're good looking

>>37031317
I forgot to include that happens when you play that card with a good looking girl

>>37031816
Can I suck your fem weiner?

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>>37031808
>Being honest works for me.

So how much longer until this pans out?

>>37031816
Oh shit we got a trap

>>37031317
Specific in what sense?
That good looking women aren't showed with attention from millions of guys?
That even if one guy tries to neg her, she can just disregard him and continue on as if nothing happened?

>>37027543
I dress well, I don't smell, I am 5'11" tall, my hair is well kempt

Females don't approach me because they sniff the autism

>>37027543
>The rest is all talk.
When's the last time you tried talking while being MY self?

>>37031362
She thinks you're pathetic because you come off as a faggot poser

>>37031882
>Females don't approach me

They don't approach period unless you are chad.

>>37031871
>That good looking women aren't showed with attention from millions of guys?
Attention =/= fucking. A lot of dudes orbiting her and feeding her ego is what's giving her power. You ever notice how all these guys that show her all the attention she wants never get to fuck her? They're demonstrating they're below her. Demonstrate you're above her, that's what matters.

>>37031892
What would I be posing as? A guy who doesn't give a fuck about her opinion? I don't, and neither should you

>>37031852
No I have a boyfriend, I was a virgin before him so I must remain steadfastly decent with other people

>>37031882
>not doing the approach yourself
You only have yourself to blame.

>>37031454
>its so easy gais
>oh, btw I and a Chad mentor and have above average stats

Every. Time.

>>37031816
please post a pic cutie boi

>>37031454
>1 out of 10
More like 8

Chads literally can't comprehend this. They think anyone can get laid. The only way to get them to open their eyes is to show them firsthand experiences.

I have a Chad friend who wanted to get me to lose my virginity and gave the same dumb talks as OP, so he took me to a party. He introduced me to several girls, and right from the get-go they were giving off signals that they were uncomfortable. I kept going to prove a point. Keep in mind that I don't sound like an autist, and I'm assertive. (I did some freelance voice acting shit)

My Chad friend caught on and after I went for some drinks, he asked them what was wrong with me. Within earshot, they said that I was "creepy," "weird," "kinda ugly," "short," etc. He was fucking blown away. You should have seen his face.

After the party, he apologized to me profusely and told me not worry, and that not all women are cunts. He's a good guy, at heart.

>>37031937
FUck you Chad, would they not do this tedious job if they liked me?

>>37031898
This

>>37031677
Yeah and what you're doing is telling the starving child to just eat something you retarded piece of shit.

>>37031863
Love how he ignored this dude

>>37031959
fuck i wish i had friends..

appricate him anon..

>>37031959
I cannot handle how retarded you must be

>>37031816
>trap has a bigger dick that mine BY 2 INCHES
THAT'S IT, I'M KILLING MYSELF

>>37032002
How is he retarded for being short/unattractive/awkward?

>>37032002
you're still falling for the "le women are le attracted to le personality" meme?

>>37031987
I guess you both have the issue of being too fucking stupid to get the food. But blame it on other people

>>37032024
I'm sorry Anon, I can't make my dick smaller

>>37031783
For them it is.
They never lived on the other side of the fence, so it's literally impossible for them to comprehend it.

It's sad how they lack self awareness.
But then again, I guess that the greatest gift of being a normalfag

>>37032025
None of those are excuses. It sounds like he said some dumb shit and made it weird

>>37031788
I guess you're right. I suppose you just have to find some way to get comfortable around girls, or maybe try to use cute/awkwardness to your advantage.The thing about girls, is they can be rapidly shifting in what they think of guy, so don't think you're automatically put into a desirable/undesirable slot.

You also have to pay attention to the vibes a girl is giving off. You can usually kinda feel it if a girl is into you, or isn't. Our bodies kinda communicate interest or lack thereof on a level you have to try to tune yourself to.

>>37032002
Epic. The only women I can have fun with are discord sluts, since they don't know what I look like.

>>37031959
>"creepy," "weird," "kinda ugly," "short," etc
Reminds me of when I used to get such "compliments". I wasn't always a Chad, but i do know this. Back in the day, I'd always have a frown on my face, I'd look down in shame for whatever reason, and I could barely form sentences around girls. That's why I got such remarks.

Also, error on chad's part, he shouldn't have introduced you, but rather made you go introduce yourself. Think of it like a business meeting, or selling yourself in a brothel, you want to be the one to give impressions of yourself, or you want to hear about the person from the person rather than someone else.

>>37032039
That's literally what I'm saying. "What's wrong, child? Are you hungry? Starving, even? Don't worry just eat something and you'll be good to go! Look, if I can have a sandwhich then so can you!"

Have you ever thought about how there are circumstances that are beyond your control? Fucking twat.

>>37032027
Are you so bitter you can't understand that women might like a guy's personality

>>37032085
you mean like my chad's friend who literally spouts memes at girls and they think it's cute?

Physical attraction is the first filter, dude. I'm not even complaining about women. That's just how things are, and I know my place.

>>37031783
yep, people just don't get it

as someone who was skinny and attractive as a kid/early teens, then became fat in my late teens, and now thin again, i can tell you the behavior of people toward you is very different, not just new people, but people that have known you your whole life, it's like they have amnesia

>>37031912
That's exactly what I was trying to say. You can pretend your above her all you want.

Unless you have the looks for it, it won't matter at all. You can be the most charismatic asshole she ever met, it won't make a difference. In the end, in her eyes, you'll be exactly like every one of those thirsty guys.

You can only get away with shit like that when you have the looks to back it up.

>>37032122
Of course shit is different for everyone. That's how life works. But complaining about it isn't going to help. Especially on this shit show of a site. Honestly it's probably making things worse

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>>37031912
This is kind of toxic advice, actually. I'm a woman and I'll be honest, I'm no fembot. If I like a guy, I approach him, and if a dude I'm not into isn't trying to get with me, I'm not going to magically be attracted to him. I can tell if I like a guy within 5 minutes. This place has some pretty rotten ideas about women, but you're spreading some misinformation too

>>37032123
girls might like a certain personality but only as long as it's attached to a guy they physically find attractive(that usually means tall)

>>37032131
Yea fair enough. It's harder for uglier guys to get to the same level with girls but its still possible. Just gotta try and fail like the rest of us

>>37032176
>If I like a guy, I approach him

I mostly agree with you, but most girls don't do this.

>>37032176
Asserting that women are just as superficial as men isn't misogynistic.

>>37032228
>misinformation

>>37032157
>You can pretend your above her all you want.
I'm not pretending, I am above her. I dress well, I make money, I got a nice car and place, I make her laugh, I got all that shit. Literally all she brings to the table is I want to fuck her. If I don't let her use her pussy to gain leverage, I've got everything on her, and I know it.
>You can be the most charismatic asshole she ever met, it won't make a difference. In the end, in her eyes, you'll be exactly like every one of those thirsty guys.
That's a defeatist attitude, right there. That's why you don't get laid.

>>37032176
>woman trying to include herself on a discussion on getting women
I'm not gonna ask my dog on what method I should use to effectively train dogs, because A) my dog has no idea what it's like to train dogs as he's never had to and B) they're biased towards the dogs because they're dogs.

>the rest is talk
And this is where I'm stuck. I've noticed that when people talk to someone they like, they actually really aren't half the shit they pretend to be. Girls love the other side of them, but I fucking despise it. If getting laid means hating myself for it, I guess I'd rather not get laid.

>>37032176
Gonna be honest, if you're a girl who uses this site you're already a fembot

>>37032248
neither is it that, but i was referring to
>This place has some pretty rotten ideas about women

>>37032161
You struggled and things got better for you. That's real nice for you. Really, I mean it. But then you go on and think that people who aren't getting better haven't struggled enough and have to put more effort into it. Surely if it changed for you then it can change for everyone. And that's where you're wrong. I don't even buy into the alpha/beta/roastie memes but the chad meme is real - attractive people get treated better.

>>37032176

let me tongue the innards of your anus

>>37032250
>I dress well, I make money, I got a nice car and place, I make her laugh, I got all that shit.

And what if you were none of this?

>>37032250
How would >>37031863 be able to feel above a girl?

>>37032286
I was none of this at one point. I worked hard, and gained all of this. Demonstrating you can work hard and win is something chicks like, they don't want a loser.

>>37032298
See above. Get a job, work out, groom yourself, learn comedic timing, a whole bunch of shit. Like I said, work hard and become a winner, then you'll look like a hard worker and a winner. Women do not have to work hard or be a winner to get laid, so you automatically get to put yourself above them because you earned it.

>>37032250
>I dress well, I make money, I got a nice car and place, I make her laugh, I got all that shit.
Ah the ghost of Elliot Rodger, and he finally got laid. How's heaven treatin' ya?

>>37028291
>most cucked version of yourself

>>37032328
But OP said all that matters is that you dress well, be clean, and "talk".

>>37032332
Elliot Rodger had a crippling fear of talking to women and thought they should just be throwing themselves at him because of his daddy's money. He didn't work for shit and was a loser. He didn't make money, he was given money. You see the difference?

>>37032277
In some tiny way I hope yall don't end up killing yourselves. So when I see bullshit spread around about getting laid or women I say something

>>37032328
>Get a job, work out, groom yourself, learn comedic timing, a whole bunch of shit. Like I said, work hard and become a winner, then you'll look like a hard worker and a winner.

Okay. Then say all that, not just be yourself, which doesn't work if you're not already attractive from having those things.

>>37032328
>See women as beneath you

>>37030122
>Respect, confidence, and self-discipline are what make women idolise you.

>>37032328
What is the just world fallacy

geez you're retarded beyond redemption.

>>37032250
That's YOU though
Your projecting your Chad like persona to everyone else.
If you were ugly and short, they only thing you would be having for you is your money, which plenty of other guys have. You can be above her all you want, doesn't mean she will fuck you.

Your assuming sick status alone nets you unlimited pussy.

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>>37030122
>This is who I am and im not diluting it

>it's a tall guys think short guys can get laid by being themselves episode

>>37028749
You're an idiot. It has been scientifically proven that 5'6" is the optimum height for getting girls. If you are a virgin at that height you have NO excuse.

>>37032250
>>37032328
Everyone says you shouldn't compare yourself to others because it'll ruin your self-esteem, but you're supposed to compare yourself to the woman you're talking to?

>>37027543
Once I do the "dress well and be clean" thing then what? Will women just approach me? Do i have to go up to them? This is literally
1. Dress well
2. Be clean
3.?
4.profit

>>37032361
But the thing is, is your advice universal or is it exclusive to you? If you are above average in terms of looks, does your story help those who are below average? Does it help those that already have gone somewhat crazy? You have to understand that humans have a natural aversion against loss and pain. The same mechanism that teaches you to not touch that hot plate again is the same that will eventually lead you to give up on life if all you ever get out of trying and struggling is even more kicks to your face.

>>37027543
How do i talk

>>37032380
>le just world meme

It's so much easier to whine than actually do something about fixing your life.

>>37032350

He fucking lied! The truth is the mating game is harsh and unforgiving as hell. The taller you are, the bigger your dick, the squarer your jaw, the more money you have, the fancier your cloths, and the faster your car, the better.

While its not impossible to get laid without these things, you're still at a huge disadvantage.

>>37032422
>it's a short guy thinks he can't get laid because of his height and he would be swimming in pussy if he were tall episode

>>37027873
most of us are at MOST 5
which makes us basically invisible
so fuck off purdy boy

>>37032467
You're lying. All those things you mention have minimal if any effect on how attractive you are to girls. It's all about the nonmaterial and nonphysical things.

>>37032446
Everyone gets rejected, giving up is the only way you lose

>>37032400
Being this ugly is pretty rare and it smacks of pride to think you're that special. 'Pride in reverse', as one book I've read termed it

I'll of course eat my words if you'd post a pic to prove it, but we both know you're too afraid of having your 'ace in the hole' excuse for not trying with girls destroyed, so you won't.

>>37032476
honestly i would have 0 problems getting laid if i was above 5'11'

>>37032350
You can do other things too. Do things to make you better than her, and it will come through when you talk.

>>37032369
Alright, fair enough. Maybe the better thing to say would be "make yourself better, then be that better you" I guess.

>>37032386
You don't have to be the only guy with money to attract a woman with your money. Donald Trump is a fat old man covered in spray paint, but he's a fucking winner nonetheless and consistently gets dime pieces. But hey, man, wallow in misery if you like, but self improvement is a lot easier than all these losers make it out to be.

>>37032428
>>37032437
Like I said before, women don't have to do anything in order to get laid. They just have to be there and have a vagina. So, if you improve yourself and bring something to the table that they can't match, and act accordingly, women respect you a hell of a lot more. That woman doesn't have to dress nice or be successful or work out or tell jokes or whatever, so the fact that you do at least some of that means you've got more than she's got. How much better you are is what gives you confidence.

>Yeah you might be hot, but bitch you ain't funny. You ain't got money, no nice clothes or car or nothing. What've you got, a vagina? Shit, those are everywhere. You are way more replaceable than me, so I'm not gonna let you push me around. I'll say and do what I want and if you don't like it then bounce.

That's the mentality. That's the mentality Chads ride off of. Women are hot, but Chads are hot AND funny, or hot AND successful, or some shit, so they got to work less, but still got to work. So if you're not hot, but funny and successful, and all she is is hot, then you're better than her.

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>>37032501
>It's all about the nonmaterial and nonphysical things.

I got trolled.

>>37031347
>khv
>h

You've never held hands with a girl? Im pathetic as fuck, hardly a 2/10 and even I have held hands with someone.

>>37032464
Says the person whose been born lucky
I hope someone throw acid in your face, we'll see how far your hard work gets you then.

>>37032534
>Feeling superior to others = confidence

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>>37032511
Where do you think you are, you fuck? Why do you think so many people here are reacting so fucking negatively to this "just bee urself" bullshit?
And no, I'm not gonna dox myself just to prove a point on an anonymous fly fishing forum.

>>37032422
how many women have you talked to in the last 2 weeks? ill even go a month to be fair. How can you say short people cant get laid at all? This board cares about height more than actual women do. Women can talk shit all day about demanding a 6'2 greek god, but they wouldnt turn down someone they found attractive because he isnt 6'2 or even 6 foot at all. For women, its the same thing as a guy saying he wants a girl with a big ass or big tits. its preference. It just bothers us more to feel inadequate because men work infinitely harder than women to get laid.

You arent having sex because youre an autist. simple fact. unless youre around 5'2 and youre hitting on 6 foot amazonians, it doesnt matter as much as you think it does if you know how to talk to women.

>>37031787
you have to roleplay yourself, you arent being honest about yourself.

Its not about acting how you would normally act.
Its about acting and being comfortable with how you feel/think.


Dishonesty isnt just lying. Dishonestly is not telling the full truth.
When you dont tell that chick you think her hair is goofy, you are being dishonest to yourself and to her.
When you tell her EXACTLY how you feel and what you are thinking, its very attractive.
Its genuine. It polarizes people. Forces them to decide if they like or dislike you. Not polarizing people, lands you in the friendzone because you dont stand out/are playing it safe which is unattractive.

Now she me hate you, or she may laugh.
If she hates you, congrats you now no longer have to waste time on someone who doesn't have your sense of humour.
If she laughs and keeps talking, you did it lad. You broke the ice in a unique, funny, and honest way.
Women are far more emotional creatures than men. If you use your confidence and honestly to genuine show and create emotions between you two, you win.

>>37032564
How the fuck are you not confident when dealing with people that you know for a fact are below you? You think the king is nervous when dealing with his subjects?

>>37032559
Does it have to be in a romantic/affectionate context? I've only held hands with girls during group activities in elementary school where we were required to join hands with those next to us.

>>37032427
5 foot 6? I don't know if u believe that, seems a little short

>>37032518
No you wouldn't, liar. How tall are you and how many girls have you fucked?

>>37032537
So what is your excuse for being a pathetic virgin? What is preventing you from getting laid?

>>37032574
Having shitty self-esteem makes everyone seem above you.

>At least that guy is comfortable making conversation with people
>At least she has IRL friends

>>37032511
Are you serious lmao

If that is absolute 1/10 for you, I'm in the negatives

>>37032561
I have been through many more hardships than you ever will, you worthless piece of dog shit. You were born in a middle class family and given everything and you still chose to shut yourself in the basement and do nothing but fap to animu all day long.

>>37032584
You are the one that decides what counts and what doesn't. Although, I somehow doubt it you've never held hands with someone outside of those activities.

It does not matyer though. What matters is what are you doint to change it?

>>37032464
See, you're still going in circles. Just work hard, it will get better! If it doesn't get better, you simply haven't worked enough. Not every life can be fixed, friendo. I'm not saying that everyone here is a lost cause but for those that are your words are not very kind.
>>37032507
Yes, getting rejected is normal for everyone. Getting rejected all the time no matter what you do isn't.

>>37032610
Well then do some shit that will objectively place you above them.

>>37032586
Do you know any 5'6" men who are virgins? I don't. The only virgins I know are awkward lanky tallfags.

>>37032570
So I should walk up to girls and say,
>You would be hot if not for your slutty tattoos, to be honest I find non-virginity very unattractive
>Holy shit you're such a butterface
>You'd be cute if you lose 100 pounds

>>37032637
Why haven't you killed yourself yet if you're confident your life will never get better and your situation is completely out of your hands?

>>37032602
>>It's all about the nonmaterial and nonphysical things.

I'm not interested enough try.

>>37032646
I'm 5'6 and virgin because I have a 5 inch dick.

>>37032646
Uhh yeah. Me.

>>37032610
shitty self-esteem isn't the cause, it's a symptom. In order to fix that you have to fix what's responsible for your low self-esteem in the first place and not all of these things can be fixed.

>>37032621
Lmao riiiight buddy, sure you have
Some nice projecting there bozo

>>37032636
>Although, I somehow doubt it you've never held hands with someone outside of those activities.

How would I have held hands with a girl in any other circumstance? I've never been on a date, I've never shown interest in a girl IRL or had one show interest in me.

>>37032674
Symptom of what?

>>37032668
Perhaps your height isn't the cause of your virginity. And your dick size totally isnt unless you went to be with someone and she stopped after seng your dick size

>>37032660
I'm not done with trying just yet, don't want to make my parents sad and I'm also afraid of dying.

>>37032646
>Do you know any 5'6" men who are virgins?
This anon >>37028749

>Getting fit, look fine
>Get good haircut that suits my face
>Own a modern car and a motorcycle
>Dress nicely
>Have plenty of savings
>Currently at uni doing well in a respected field
>Graduating soon, have a job lined up where I'll be earning just over 100k
>Legit confidence out the ass as a result of placements in my field and having to deal with shit
>Able to get along well with anyone I meet
>Trained to lead, able to
>Struggled through early life with a lot of bullshit thrown my way, know how to deal with pain, abuse and prolonged suffering
>Still tfw no gf

God damn I'm turning 24 at the end of this year and I've never gotten further than a platonic hug. It really hurts because I try so fucking hard and succeed at everything else, but can't figure out the mystery of human relationships. It makes me feel like I function incorrectly. Like despite my success something is fucked up that I can't fix. It's difficult to live with material gratification but not a scrap of it emotionally. I've got friend groups, but I don't feel an actual connection with anyone, not even my family. It feels hollow.