Modern parenting destroyed a generation

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i'm sure it will get better *snickers*

>>36945952
>tfw 20
>tfw still live with parents
FUCK

>>36945663
Yes. Blame others for your own failures. Good goy.

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>>36945663
My father and mother have this sort of conversation relatively frequently with me. It's bizarre that they expect you to be able to socialise normally when they fail to socialise you. I'm not completely non-functioning but it takes a lot of effort and battling constant depression/suicidal thoughts.

>>36946013
i can't remember a single time when my parents invited a friend over or just had a casual conversation with a friend on the phone.

how the fuck am i suppose to learn social skills?

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>>36945663
>implying grades weren't always priority numero uno in previous generations

>implying grades aren't even more of a priority in other cultures like east Asia

really makes you think

>>36945663
I feel you. It wasn't this bad but I had similar experiences. The hard part is to try and overcome their conditioning.

>>36946045
I feel your pain. It wasn't that bad for me but it has still proven difficult. I can truly empathise with your experience though.

I'm not sure what the solution is. I would suggest going to Church but that really depends on if you believe or want to believe in God.

>broken people turning to God cliche

It helps.

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>>36945952
Well, I've never been to Heaven, but I've been told,
Hand me down my silver trumpet, Gabriel...
The gates are made of pearl and the streets are made of gold,
Hand me down my silver trumpet Lord!

>Can i join martial art club?
>No somebody could hit you there

LMAO

What you wrote is often combined with women using mental bully as raising skill. Women often confuse methods used for pussy whipping their man as a proper way to raise boy.

>Can I do x?
>Do what you want

and then if kid did not choose what mother wants, she would be cold and avoiding you for hours/days.

Kid learns very fast that doing what your mother/parents wish is the right thing to do and will be unable in future to decide about himself + doubt his decisions every time.

Then after 20 years
>We did not raise you this way
>You are adult, you should know what you want.

kek

>>36946115
>if you believe or want to believe in God
I could never do that but reading different philosophers is also quite soothing

>>36945663

>all my friends kids are getting married and advancing in their careers and you don't even have a job

Now, just wait a second, how does that work?

"Modern parenting" means parenting in general, right? So all this would apply to their friends' kids too, right?
If this is modern parenting in general, then why are most people of this generation socialised, etc?

>>36946255
wow you are literally me

>Can i join the martial art club?
no
>>Can i join the soccer club?
no, you are a girl
and so on

>>36945663
>tfw homeschooled
You only know the tip of the iceberg, friend

>>36945663
I agree with you OP but I don't think ot was the helicopter parents that did it
>are you gonna put your kid in a sport?
I want him to figure out what he likes by himself
>what are you making for dinner tonight?
I don't have time to cook I'll just pick up McDonald's
>do you pick your kid up from school?
I dont stop working until 5 so my kid is home alone until then

I honestly think it was a Generation X that convinced itself they wanted kids even though once they had them they obviously wanted nothing to do with them. This made the Millenials who all have daddy/mommy issues and have kids who they never let out of their sight because they are terrified of abandonment.

>>36945663
It's not modern parenting, we just suck in the market of men.

>>36945663
Having met the parents of today, who grew up under such bad parenting, it only getting worse anon, this going to keep happening for a few generations I guess until something stops it.

>>36946273
Fair enough lad, I was just thinking because a Church would actually have a community associated with it.

>>36946448
M parents put me in balletand I had to learn an insturment. I hated it because I wanted to learn material arts and play soccer.

>>36945663
Helicopter parents ruin lives.

>>36946515
Lol they wanted a girl

>>36946515
These are all generalizations but I think the attention seeking whores and the 25 year old virgins of the Millenial generation are mostly due to emotional neglect.

>>36946576
I am a girl. They just didn't care for what I wanted or my interests.

>>36945663
>You can't get a job, school is your job!

>>36946632
You're a very bad girl if you wanted to do martial arts and soccer over based ballet. All the best women were ballerinas or gymnasts in their youth

>>36945663
My parents encouraged me to do clubs, but i didn't like them.

I was more harsh on myself over grades then my parents.

My parents were ok with going over, it was the other parents that wouldn't let me :/

Again, encouraged

Never talked to my parents, in retrospect.
>inb4 i'm socially retarded and depressed because i disconnected myself from my parents and society and not the other way around

>>36946652
>bad girl
I don't care if it's defined as good or bad. I just wanted to pursue my interests instead of shit I hated.

>>36946673
I know you don't care about being a good girl. That's why you're bad

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>>36945964
Iktf. Everyone is either studying or working, I have no interest in either and just sit here playing vidya or masturbate all day long.

>tfw never been with a girl
>tfw depression has made vidya and masturbating boring
>tfw you don't care anymore about what happens to you
>1/5th of your life was shit and you still have around 65 - 80 years to go
Wouldn't mind dying 2bh.

>>36946682
Well define it as you wish. I don't want to discuss about stereotypes here. This tread is actually interesting. I really can relate with you guys regarding this topic.

>>36946760
I feel bad for your parents. Three posts with you and I can tell you were a rotten little turd to them

>>36946521
they do, my brother could do whatever he wanted, i'm going out. ok. i'm going here who are you going with? i need to meet him.

>>36945663
I learned to play the piano. Never got something out of it but I like playing it. It's fun. You don't need something that is productive as your hobby. Videogames and shiposting is as much a hobb as playing an instrument.

>>36946827
Are you also the older sibling?

>>36946805
Three posts with you and I can tell you are a rotten little turd
now go and harvest (you)s somewhere else

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>>36945663
Anyone else get the rich liberal helicopter parents experience?
>You got a B?!? Unacceptable!
>Hey here's this extracurricular opportunity that you're going to do.
>We're not letting you go to private/public school and have normal social development, you're going to be homeschooled/go to a charter school instead.
>Sports are unimportant and dangerous, girls only care about intelligence and wealth anyways.
>Just do work at home while we're gone, be back at 5:00.
>No you can't go to that party/event.

then in high school
>You got a B?!? Unacceptable!
>You're 16, why haven't you had a gf/had sex?
>It's weird that you never go to parties.
>We're not helping pay for college, just take out a loan.
>Don't be racist, Tyrone is just poor that's all.

Parents are normie liberals who both got niche STEM jobs and make a high income. Murderously high academic expectations which made me completely fail their social expectations.
I think it's unusual for a form of rebellion to be to join the military but that's what I ended up doing. Also now I vote Republican and am starting to re-convert to Christianity.

>>36945663
>modern parenting

The whole "school and grades are all that matters" thing has been around for a while.
A century before, wealthy parents would literally lock their children in a routine of studying and didn't let them go out most of the time until they turn 20.

I'd say it's more the prevalence of screens replacing human interaction and a larger world full of strangers that created our social shortcomings.

>>36946946
Very clever. I see you posted exactly what I did to you even though it makes no sense in reverse. You're very intelligent, I can tell

A dumb bull dyke with a bad attitude. /golfclap you're the winner here

>>36946979
*later in high school

>>36947021
Anon sry to tell you, but you are

O B S E S S E D
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>>36945663
You then get the blame from your familly members who were raised proprely, for being such a failure as if your overprotected and overindulged childhood has nothing to do with it.

>>36947018
>screens replacing human interaction
This also plays an important role I'd say because it leads to emotional starvation.

>>36947141
Add narcissist to that list. Anyone who dares try to talk to you for any length of time must be obsessed. Sound logic, you'll go far

>>36947198
Are you talking about younger siblings?

>>36945663
show them your post

>>36947232
I'll stay with obsessed. Trying this hard just to talk to a female is a bit sad, anon.

>>36945964
Me too, 20, no big deal.

Shit happens, will probably move out when my little sister graduates next year.

I do feel like I am lacking necessary privacy living with family still, also feel a little stunted, but I am already about to graduate college so who gives a fuck.

>>36947300
Stupid cunt

>>>/tumblr/

>>36947365
If your parents are as exhausting as mine, you will feel free as soon as you move out and maybe even regain some of your drive. I can recommend it.

>>36946652
>>36946682
>>36946805
>you were a bad girl
>bad girl
>rotten girl
citation needed

>People are bad because they do not do what society tells them to do. I believe this because I am a conformist, and cannot formulate my own opinions.

>>36947300
So that's what a spinning hamster wheel looks like. The absolute inability to consider that a dumb bitch that wants to play at being a man who in all likelyhood is a fat whale too, could ever be anything other than desirable

Ooo, don't let all those mental problems come out at once. But for real, you must be a histrionic nightmare for anyone you know IRL. Pity is all I have for those unfortunate souls

>>36947430
Show me the document where society tells girls to be ballerinas. There's like 1 in 10,000 that ever even takes tap growing up. Most, ironically, get put into soccer

Lemme guess, you don't actually know what the fuck you're talking about do you?

>>36946255
>you should always be nice and kind to eveyone do not hit or hurt anyone
>defends you everytime you get bullied
>everyone mocks you for being such a mommy's boy
>lose the last shred of confidence and self esteem you have
>stops defending you at a certain age
>you can't defend yourself when others bully you because you never learned to
>become incredibly passive and weak

11 fucking years pass

>feel like a piece of shit everyday because of it
>you're an adult LOL, fix up your goddamned life and stop blaming others HAHA it's your fault sally

>>36945663
>2017
>Still thinks every parent raises their children the same
>Thinks technology has changed anything

You're delusional if you think a normie parent going in her phone every few minutes is destroying a child's development. Or how kids staying in constant contact will dictate their personality.

>>36947402
You should try >>>/trash/ . If you don't like it >>>/s4s/

>>36947440
The same goes for you.
Try >>>/trash/ angry anon.

>>36946047
>implying that implying that grades weren't a big deal in the past
>implying that East Asians arent spergs themselves

>>36947564
Very nice. You told posters to go somewhere else and then you called one of them angry. Solid quality. You said so much and we can really tell what a bottomless depth of character you have for chaining two cliches together

>>36947465
Do you still live with your parents? Or did you leave? If you moved out: How old where you then?

>>36947593
>>implying that East Asians arent spergs themselves
look at the suicidal rates and all those neets in east asia
they endure similar levels of stress I'd say

>>36947460
Ah, so you're reading comprehension is so poor that you don't even know what you posted? Okay, let me tell you what you said.

>>36946515
>I hated it because I wanted to learn material arts and play soccer.

>>36946576
>Lol they wanted a girl

>>36946652
>You're a very bad girl if you wanted to do martial arts and soccer over based ballet

She has an interest in more "manly" activities. This is wrong to you, so you say she was a "bad girl" for thinking in such a way. Now, how do I know that you are a slave to society's empty opinions? This:
>>36947440

>The absolute inability to consider that a dumb bitch that wants to play at being a man

>play at being a man

Martial Arts, and, somewhat, soccer, are considered to be "manly," or, rather, are not taken seriously is not preformed by men. This is due to the fact that men are physically stronger than women, and therefore can put on a better show.

Since these sports are "manly," they are bad to you. More "girly" activities, such as being ballerina, are okay, since they are, well, girly. This is merely subscribing to a rigid dogma of what people "should" be interested in. You are head over heals bound to what society deems are important or okay. Or, rather, since girls are not seen as important as men in those fields, they morally should not engage in such activities.

Do you understand what you wrote, now?

>>36947697
Living in a big house and being semi dependant on my mother makes me sick, i didn't leave yet but i'm planning on finding some part tme job during the summer so i can earn money, live like an adult and reverse the damage done.

>"Why would you want to sleep over at a friends hours? You have you own bed at home."
I kid you not, this is an actual quote.

>>36946515
Fuck you, I wish my parents encouraged me to learn an instrument.

>>36947779
nor reading this shit

>>36947864
It's an easy read, anon, though I'm not surprised a short paragraph (not even) frightens you.

>>36947779
So you missed the part where more girls are enrolled in soccer as compared to ballet. Yet somehow this same society is telling girls to be "girly" and do ballet. Even though most little girls actually do soccer

Hmm. Not really seeing your point here. I think you just want to be outraged, even if you don't know what you're supposedly outraged about

>>36947779
Thanks, anon. Sometimes I wonder if every single robot hates woman. Posts like your's make me feel better about anons.

>>36947954
Now that's some samefag if I ever saw it

>>36945964
aw, you're still a kid anon. That's not bad at all.

>>36947920
Well, ballerinas are considered "girly," and sports seems more manly. This does not prevent either gender from entering these fields. I did not know about the ratio of ballerinas to soccer players, so I will research this in the future. From my post:
>>36947779
>Or, rather, since girls are not seen as important as men in those fields, they morally should not engage in such activities.

My response was to this anon:
>>36946652

I'm trying to find his reasoning, which has basis in nothing. I do not believe society is gated based on gender, at least not anymore.

>>36945663
>paranoid/overprotective parenting is encouraged and made light of
>publicly shaming kids and destroying their stuff has become normalized
>treat them like toddlers up until the moment they turn 18, then dump all sorts of responsibilities on them
>not letting them experience natural consequences, even within reason (ex. grounding a kid for refusing to put on a coat rather than letting him go without one so he gets cold and actually understands why you need to put a coat on)
>act like they're being persecuted and/or you're being completely unreasonable when you critique their parenting
>deliberately deprive their kids of basic but critical social/life experience in their formative years and act like no extent of that is their fault ("you kids always blame everyone but yourselves!")
>complain about how this generation turned out

>>36946013
>>36946045
Are you guys me? Both my parents are introverted, cold and generally unfriendly yet they always chastise me for being exactly the way they are.

>be 9
>single mother still getting her degree
>"education is important anon"
>degree is in anthropology
>latch key kid for a few years
>mom finishes degree around middle school
>"i just have to snap my fingers and this degree will get me a great job, you'll see anon"
>immediately moves into government housing
>mom unemployed, bankruptcy to clear student loans
>try to hang out with neighborhood kids
>"this is a bad area anon, stay inside, come straight home after school"

>>36948072
Reasoning for what? Your argument used a strawman society that you say tells girls not to be soccer players and to be ballerinas. When, if you look at actual society, you'd see hardly any young girl even so much as takes dancing lessons but a shitton have been involved in youth soccer nonsense at some point

You can see how I might be confused by what you're saying, right? Ask yourself how many ballerinas you know. I don't know any. Some "societal" pressure that is

ITT: People rationalizing why they don't take any steps to better themselves.

>>36948242
no shit that's all /r9k/ is

>>36948242
Everyyyyybodyyy huuuuurrrtts

>>36946721

you should try mushrooms before that

>>36945964
Lol
You are like a little baby

Im 25 in June and live with my parents, havent started college either.

>>36946721

I wish I had the luxury of sitting on my fat ass and jerking it like a giant fag. but since I got kicked out at 18 into the real world I had to get a job and an education. r9k is fag city

>>this is now a normie board

>blaming your parents for everything

>>36948242
Not at all. I'm big on self improvement.

But some of us were dealt better hands earlier in life. I'm surprised I'm not the only one