Abortion

>>36891423
Yes. It's not sentient in the same way as you an me. It's a glorified dog that gets to talk with age. I wouldn't have mind being aborted desu. Life isn't MUH SPECIAL GIFT.

You wouldn't feel the same way if you never met your daughter. You are romanticizing. And I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt regarding any assertions you have to make about whether or not you made the right choice. Come back and talk about this with us when your daughter is dumping her nonverbal 6 year old mixed race baby on you and your wife every weekend so she can go out with the girls on "mom's night out"

>>36891423
I'm not sure what I'd do if it was retarded or the chances were high, but if she wanted an abortion for other reasons/circumstances I'd probably divorce that whore. Ideally, she and I would be in an agreement on this type of stuff- kinda a deal breaker for people for people of one opinion or the other

>muh morals
>muh pro life

fuck off to reddit

>>36891520
>I'd probably divorce that whore

You'd consider your steady wife/gf a whore for wanting an abortion?

I did with my ex girlfriend when we were 17/18. Had to forge her dad's signature on a form and we went to planned Parenthood and they have her a pill.

Now I'm 29 and married. If she got pregnant, I'm sure we'd just keep it at this point. We can barely take care of ourselves financially right now but luckily we have a good support system between our parents.

>>36891574
> luckily we have a good support system between our parents.

I know in most parts of the world other than the US, this is normal, but only out of necessity.

It's not right to pawn your kids off on their grandparents when they spent their entire adult life taking care of you.

>>36891423
She wasnt a good women to me.
A women who chooses to kill her child is a lost cause and do not deserve kids.
Nothing lost.

>>36891478
>36891478
Dont let your child suffer at the hands of those people.
Raise her right and teach her shes more then her cunt and maybe she will talk to dudes that respect her enough to treat her like a porn star.
And OP A girl sent me a song about deepthroating cocks and I realized who she was.

>>36891654
You think every single slut on the planet had a bad/absentee father?

>>36891611
>pawn your kids off on their grandparents when they spent their entire adult life taking care of you.
And I am taking care of my grandmother because she was a good women who didnt drink and whore around.
Far as I am concerned kids should stick with family.

>>36891551
Yeah, obviously she lied about her intent behind sex, not doin it the Christian way like she should've promised if she was my wife. If it's my gf and she tried to abort it id just break off from her.

Neither my wife or I want children, so if she happened to accidentally get pregnant (which is near impossible if she uses birth control correctly) we agreed we'd go the route of abortion, if it came to that.

Sometimes life is depressing and there aren't any real "good" routes to go down.

>>36891423
Well yeah. I got shit in my life, and so does the gf, i wanna do and kids are fucking anchors to that process.
Someday somewhere when we're both ready and decide we want one than yeah sure lets do this but until then if my apparent super sperm makes her ovulate despite the implant then that things getting scraped out of her as fast as my gf can get an appointment.
I'm actually glad i landed one with this mindset as there doesn't even need to be a discussion just a short "i'm pregnant..." "whens the appointment? I'll drive ya." "Tomorrow at 11." "Cool. We'll grab subway or something on the way back." (Its like right next door)

>>36891692
Shh you'll shatter the christbabies' world view.

>>36891675
No, But that kind of behavior has a root cause.
If a women like the porn start gianna michels wants to be a slut cuz she was a "good girl" through school then find go do you.
But most or some women dont want random dudes stick their cock in her because when shes pregnant they will peace or get her an abortion.
I would not stick around with a slut because that person would have no problem cheating on me.

>>36891692
You sound like a impotent beta male walking wallet. I hope your wife isn't fucking the local Chad bc the way you sound she probably is, and isn't satisfied.

>>36891692
This is what an adult does.
They talk about it and decide parent hood is not for them and they use protection.
Thats call responsibility.

>>36891680
>Far as I am concerned kids should stick with family.

I agree but people don't get to choose whether or not they have their families' support. White people, boomers in particular treat their kids like dog shit and completely ignore the fact that they have grandchildren.

>>36891423
>Would you go along with it?

Well, seeing as I am not a female, I don't really need to go along with anything.

>It wasn't an issue of retardation

I disagree.

>>36891745
And this is why we should put and effort on bring back family values.
But do what you want with your life.
There are billions reproducing.

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>>36891741
Or don't be mindless fuckwits and learn to value life and take responsibility for your hedonistic life styles
Lookin at you
>>36891703
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>>36891574
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>>36891423

Story time about this r9k.

>>had a smoking 9/10 gf huge titties
>>loved her very much
>>we talked about getting married
>>she got pregnant
>>she wanted an abortion but I basically said I wouldn't support it and I will take care of you.
>>we continue our life for the next 3 months she continually considers abortion but I say it isn't the right thing
>>she then miscarries at 4 months and theres
a pile of baby clothing and toys that we basically throw out
>>she breaks up with me.
>>moral of the story is
>>I should have let her get an abortion because
everything is fucking random as shit anyway and nothing matters.

>>36891796
>There are billions reproducing.

Doesn't make it justified in most cases, if anything this is just evidence that even death has a silver lining.

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Several years ago me and my ex aborted. We decided before we started having sex that if it accidentally happened we wouldn't hesitate to abort. We were stupid and didn't use birth control and thought pulling out was good enough (worked for 4+ years surprisingly). I don't regret it at all but I've never told anyone.

She had a history of mental retardation in her family (sister was pretty bad), I have shit medical issues and we were very broke. Kid would have been a mess.

Even now that I'm pretty well off me and my wife agreed we would abort if it came to it. We both just don't want to have kids.

>I think this lump of brainless cells is somehow a human
>therefore, I will decide what you can or cannot do with your own body

>>36891799
Dubs but really though most the women I got pregnant where dumb sluts and junkies.
I will not let my kid go through that and she kinda has her own legs to walk to a free clinic sucks thats get rid of your kid but her body her choice forcing a family is what destroyed the nuclear home.

>>36891767
What if it was your wife dumbass. Y'all live under the same roof and have to make decisions together. Heck so would you and your gf- you think if you had a gf and gave no input on what she should do, she would stick with you (regardless of what decision she makes)

>>36891839
>I think this lump of brainless cells is somehow a human

Must be relatable, somehow.

>>36891820
>Miscarries
How convenient

Either way you are retarded for not sorting out a plan before you had sex.

>>36891820
Im sorry bro my best time was with a girl with big tits and thick waist.
I though she would be good mommy because she was always taking care of kids.
But the miscarriages happen.
Either try again, make it work or leave.
The only options we have.

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>>36891423
>muh babies
kys

ps I would make said abortion myself If I could
ps2 It'll never happen to me anyway because I'm gonna get snipped :^)

Don't forget daily diaper changing time parentcuck

>>36891851

I would give my input, but at the end of the day, it's her choice and not mine.

Just because you live with me doesn't mean you get to make decisions about what I do with my body.

>>36891879
BINGO old enough to stick your cock in a women old enough to be a father.
Theres fuckers in favelas of brazil being dad at 16.
You should not have sex unless you are ready for a child.
This is why education is important.
Speaking of kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9dSYgd5Elk
Sure ill miss my friends and my dog but its time to pretend

>>36891879

As much as I hate to admit it man, you are right we should have had a better plan for a pregnancy. But I did have a great job and a solid income. Love often blinds people

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>>36891799
>first on the shitlist
>gf used to be christ-san incarnate
>never visits church anymore cause why bother
>now a strong advocate of birth control
>the 3 times we had a scare she already made the appointments before even telling me
>now thinks zealots are dumbasses inherently
I'm still naming my kids john or hannah cause they're nice names and i'm damn sure they're gonna learn native traditions and ethics.

>>36891941
>You should not have sex unless you are ready for a child.

This really has nothing to do with abortion though, people don't do what they are "supposed" to do all the time, including religious hypocrites. You can't just start persecuting grown, existing people for fucking outside of wedlock to prevent any possibility of them aborting a 12 week old fetus.

>>36891423
Why does this picture fill me with such joy, arousal, and a feeling that everything is gonna be ok?

>>36891848
Can you back up
>sluts
>junkies
Statements? Because I think you're somewhat right, but you aren't looking at tbe bigger picture. Cultural Marxism and Globalists are destroying the nuclear family. Cultural Marxists/Communists and Globalists and there pawns have always pushed pro choice viewpoints. They all want us to live in a sick world full of no responsibility http://www.conservapedia.com/Globalism

>>36891996
>You can't just start persecuting grown, existing people for fucking outside of wedlock to prevent any possibility of them aborting a 12 week old fetus.
Im not just action have consequences>>36891941
Wrong song I meant this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI

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>>36891981
That's good anon(conveying sincerity on the internet isn't easy) but please control your dick. Also pick better names- how many faggots named John are actually happy with it

>>36892029
Sluts and junkies only feel for what is hedoistic.
To give up the fun and drugs for starting a family is the adult thing to do.
go a head and kill your kid but dont act like you are an adult for bailing.
>A kids whos parents didnt want an abortion but fuck raising a kid.

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>>36892089
>Im not just action have consequences

Like the health risks associated with getting an abortion? Or not sucking up welfare / grandparents' retirement funds to buy hormone blockers because your kids' kindergarten teacher saw them using the pink crayon and will report you if you keep misgendering your child?

>>36891423
I have made women get abortions 6 infact zero fucks given

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>>36891423
Nonvirgin here.

You should ALWAYS disuss the choice of abortion with every person you sleep with BEFORE you have sex with them. If you don't agree, then I don't recommend sleeping with them. You don't want to be locked into caring for a child you don't want, or aborting a kid you wanted to keep.

Also, if a girl says she'd keep the baby and you don't want a kid, never trust that she is on birth control. Always wear a condom.

>>36892141
How do you fuck up 6 times?

Do you just purposely cum inside girls that aren't on the pill just so you can convince them to abort later?

>>36891996
No, I think people that have irresponsible sex should pay for it, children included, if it has to be that way. Usually, sex is consensual. If a man and a woman have consensual sex and the woman is pregnant, they should be forced to carry the human life and support it until its grown, or there's always adoption/CPS. But otherwise, the parents and their lives should be ruined. Over time hopefully society will learn from its mistakes. The kids will hopefully become smart enough to recognize their parents' failure and overcome them overtime. The government's role is to promote family values, education, and the value of a human life.

>>36892183
>No, I think people that have irresponsible sex should pay for it, children included,

That is just spiteful and contributes to the welfare problem. All to punish women that won't have sex with you. Only the child suffers.

>>36892132
Is worried the fuck out of me for a good month when she told me.
Like god forbid I yell at my kids for smoking a joint im a bad parent but let then chop off their dick? normal As fuck.
No I agree with you.
>>36892159
Found the man who probably 40 and has kids.
You sound like my uncle that didnt throw his life away at the bottle.

>>36892123
Why let people, willingly stand aside, and let human life be needlessly killed? Because that's your viewpoint as I see it

>>36892183

And people like you should be forced to get castrated.

Seeing as you think it's ok to force your beliefs upon other people, you should be fine with this.

>>36892095
Adam it is then. Deus Vult!

>>36892217
No, it's human life, which should be valued. I'm agnostic, nice try faggot

>>36892183
I want you to see.
>>36892203
He has A point I watch my buddy fist fight his dad because his dad got a junkie knock up and they wanted child welfare.
Let the people kill their children and let us start something.

>>36892217
Only supports the nanny state when it's getting involved with controlling women's bodies, what a pos.

>>36892203
>implying those mothers would get welfare
No, no anon women that get abortions through consensual sex should not be on welfare

>>36891423

The only time I'll ever accept an abortion is if my wife or girlfriend's life is threatened. Other than that, we're having it.

>>36892229
>No, it's human life

No, it's a lump of brainless cells that have no feelings or thoughts.

>I'm agnostic
I don't know if you're trolling or just retarded.

>>36892257

I don't even know what the fuck that means.

Not everyone here is an Amerifat, dumbass.

>>36892221
Kek well it's unique nowadays, but it felt more common when I was a kid. In this secular age of humanity, Adam seems like a nice and wholesome choice

If it for some real reason (as in kid's retarded and/or we are poorfags) yes.

If for some selfish reason (as in "i'm not ready for the kids") no.

>>36892273
Yeah but they're human brain cells

>>36892273
>No, it's a lump of brainless cells that have no feelings or thoughts.
As a man and a father you teach it self reliance and tough guy shit.
As a women and a mother you teach them to feel emotions and strive for something better.
And both of you tell them life isnt perfect and you gotta put in the time to get something good.
Im sorry but BOTH parents need to put in the effort.
Before the kids its all about you.
after that its all about the kids.
Take this how you will.

>>36892305
Being a poorfag is still a selfish reason. Just don't have sex, control yourself

>>36892292
>unenlightened europoor
>actively supporting the nanny state

>>36892318
> brain cells

Probably untrue, strictly speaking.

Either way, your point is irrelevant.

>>36892326

Yeah, unless you abort the fucking thing, in which case you have to do none of that shit.

>>36892336
I disagree. Having kids when you are unable to properly support them is selfish, not the other way around.

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>>36892336
Better yet get a job the both of you and stop spending your cash.
Kids dont need Iphones.
My grandmother played in the dirt with no shoes and went to piss in an outhouse.
Your are not too poor you dont need to give your kids flat screens and gold bars.
Give them love and parents that give a fuck.
>here come the fucking feels.

>>36892273
Oh pee here. I think it has to be the idea of wasting potential. Both my daughters have so much love to give, that it's unthinkable for me to have taken thst away. My ex is a raging cunt and took off with my daughter for another man. That was 3 years ago, and I can still hear her as a 1 year old asking dor dada, calling out for dada, and feeling abandoned when I'm not there to comfort her. Hearing her thoughts wondering "why doesn't dada love me anymore?" These things come to mind when I think of abortion. For anyone wondering, me and my ex are now on speaking terms and I see her regularly.

As for my second daughter, I'll never, ever leave her side. I'd sooner die than have her question dada's love for her.

>>36892374
It's still human life though. It's worse to kill it than not to. If all three of you have to suffer, so be it? Hopefully you can teach your kid to not make the same mistakes.

>>36892383
Great, give them life, then theycan be the poor sheltered weird kid at school and when they ask you why they are a virgin at 20 yo you can tell them to just b themselves.

>>36892356
Then get your fucking tubes tide and you ball sack cut and buy a box of condoms and go be you.
Fucking abortion is for idiots who can look into a day ahead.

I don't live in a 3rd world shithole, inhabited by inbreds, so I can kill all the fetuses I please.

And there ain't a damn thing you fags can do to stop me.

>>36892403

How about you go fuck yourself?

I'll kill all the fucking fetuses I want. Stop me if you can.

>>36892401
Then set up play dates with other parents and teach them how to be human instead of sitting them infront of a screen.
Go play ball with you kid and introduce you kids to other kids.
Or send him outside to hang out at the docks/mall/park and make buddys.
Or what the fuck is school and after school activitys.
BIG BROTHER PROGRAMS?
Dont have kids you dont know what to do.

>>36892383
>here come the feels
More like here come bluepill shills to defend their lack of responsibility and self discipline. Fucking idiot man children on r9k complain about roastie whores and how society is so degenerate, but come in this thread to defend the single most bluepilled idea in modern society. They don't realize birth control and condoms actively promote Stacy fucking Chad and Tyrone instead of them. Cultural Marxism created these mommy gf wanting little bitches

>>36892461
>Dont have kids you dont know what to do.

Unless your bitch is pregnant, in which case, you should just go ahead and have the kid, regardless of the fact that you will make a shit parent, and that the child will grow up to be a degenerate just like you.

>>36892431
So are you a shit skin or a Chad? Either way fuck of my board

>>36892431
/thread
oreganigger

>>36892431
I dont wanna jerk off today.
And you go ahead and do you.
Dont act like its righteous or good.
And people wonder why men dont want women anymore.
Well jeez you want to kill my kid because you cant wear a condom?
Fucking blowjobs or pulling out?

>>36892431
There it is. The issue for you isn't freedom of choice, but a deeper seated one.

>>36891423
>>I told my ex I couldn't live with myself, or her, if she went through with it. It wasn't an issue of retardation, just that she wasn't ready for a kid.

How did she respond when you said no?

>>36892502
Right, it's their own fault for
-not having any self control or self discipline
-having a lack of responsibility

>>36892398
>It's still human life though
It isn't really. At best it's very primitive animal.
> It's worse to kill it than not to
Not if it end up becoming miserable human that is strain on society.
>Hopefully you can teach your kid to not make the same mistakes.
additionally punishing oneself for the "sins"=lel
>>36892431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3MKSqUTr-A

>>36892523
She thought I was a peice of shit, raining on her women's rights. I told her that I resigned to the fact that I couldn't stop her, but that I wouldn't continue our relationship if she did. The huge irony is that she left me and took our kid, which she now has custody of.

>>36892401
You just proved my point- society is wrong, premarital sex is for normies.

>>36892474
>actively promote Stacy fucking Chad and Tyrone instead of them.
Yeah tottally nothing to do with the generation of drug addicts school shooters thugs and pedos.
Whatever do what you want but abortion is for the kids not ready and shouldnt breed.
>you will make a shit parent, and that the child will grow up to be a degenerate just like you.
When she told me she was pregnant I pulled double time at 16 go fuck off.
Maybe not everyone should have kids but abortion is something take has alternative.
Also fetuses can cure cancer so go ahead and kill your kids to save someone with cancer.
STEM CELL any one?
Im Sitting on the middle with this one.

>>36892520

Psycho analyze me all you want. This is a matter of freedom.

>>36892527

So you agree - they should still have the kid and poison our society further with their degenerate spawn.

>>36892547
BRAT BRAT KILL THAT NIGGA NIGGA
HOOD LIFE NIGGA.
My great grandfather got killed by nazis so you ass holes can kill children.

>>36892547
>at best it's a primitive animal
Can you elaborate? I know what I said was factually correct- when a woman is impregnated, unique life is given to the fertilized egg, and it's human because only a human male can produce life in a female. All animals have a lifecycle, if it starts out stupid well it's our species
>strain on society
>still supporting the nanny state
>not supporting family values over welfare

>>36892598
>This is a matter of freedom.
I can kill and rape doesnt mean I should.
Fuck I can do smack and blow my brains out I wont do that.
Just because you can dont mean you should?

>>36892557
Why would you start having sex regularly with someone and not have a plan for when/if this happened?

I don't understand how this can take a couple by surprise. Maybe a one night stand but thats it.

>>36892666
>I can kill and rape doesnt mean I should.

Your freedom ends where another persons freedom begins. And no, a bunch of unfeeling cells that have no thoughts do not qualify as a "person".

>Just because you can dont mean you should?

Only if you want to. If you want to do smack, I wouldn't presume to tell you not to, because I don't have the arrogance to tell you what to do with your life.

You are one stupid asshole. I understand English isn't your native tongue, but damn.

>>36892588
>>36892588
>drug addicts
Promoted through Globalist agenda and cultural Marxism
>pedos and school shooters
Can't speak for pedos, those are usually older dudes from a generation I can't speak for. School shooters? You know who else hates guns, loves gun control, doesn't explain gun safety or respect?
>Globalists peddling cultural Marxism

>>36892598
>still thinking I support the nanny state
>still thinking I wouldn't send criminals into massive prisons if society became that degenerate

>>36891941
>Theres fuckers in favelas of brazil being dad at 16.
look at how that is working out for them

>>36892713
Then what qualifies as a person? Why is it your opinion that decides what lives and what dies? Who gives you the right? You're just a big deluded faggot

Hell, I'd make a night of it by kicking it out of her womb and making her eat it with some crushed up antibiotics for the wild, bloody dialated cervix sex we'd be having.

>>36892383
NEVER do this, EVER, under any circumstances

>>36892666
>>satanic trips
Well the post content fits. Just stop posting

>>36892683
Different anon.

Most women know their cycles and as such know when its a safe day.
Some women have adverse reactions to birth control that may mean they don't consider its benefits enough of a positive to outweigh the negatives they experience.
Some people, gays and gals, are allergic to semen or condoms or both.
Birth control can be expensive for some.

Now combine all of that and the variability of the human body and maybe you guys rawdog on a day that you both thought was safe but really wasn't.

>>36892637
you couldn't be more wrong about who I am ameritard

>>36892655
>Can you elaborate
fetus has less brain than a house pet and operates entirerly based on instincts

> I know what I said was factually correct- when a woman is impregnated, unique life is given to the fertilized egg, and it's human because only a human male can produce life in a female. All animals have a lifecycle, if it starts out stupid well it's our species
My question for you is this: if you kill a caterpillar, does it count as killing butterfly?

>strain on society
>still supporting the nanny state
>not supporting family values over welfare
Unless we are talking about some magic Ancapistan, then kid will still use roads, public schools and police system etc.

I've had a vasectomy. That should tell you what my thoughts on abortion are. If you don't want it abort it. Get tied if you can.

>>36892786
>Why is it your opinion that decides what lives and what dies?

It isn't. If you want to have a 100 kids and start a clan - I don't care. If you want to get pregnant over and over and then keep getting abortions - I don't care.

YOU are the one who thinks they have the right to tell someone else how to live their lives.

>Then what qualifies as a person?

Self awareness, for one thing.

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>>36892830
Excellent well thought out and informative post. I think I should listen to this anon's great advice

>>36892865
i'm just talking out of personal experience, growing up very poor will fuck you up

>>36892864
You just don't value human life at all dude. I bet you avidly read Nietzsche like the bluepill cuck you are. There's no point in responding to someone with no value of human life.

>>36892861
I'd rather hold out till they make shit like vasalgel an effective reality.

>>36892786
Why is it okay to slaughter sperm cells and throw eggs in the trash can then?
>but it only has the full potential to develop into an adult once the egg is fertilized!
yes, except for the fact that it needs to directly parasite on the mother for quite a while

>>36892886
It's your own fault for not realizing your power/potential as an individual then. It sounds to me like you blame being poor on the way you turned out, when in fact many people, non famous ones included, have lead a good life or improved their standard of living despite growing up poor.

>>36892891

Sure. Just ignore whatever I said and throw insults at me. You really showed me what's what.

At least I have some respect for other people, instead of trying to force what I believe onto them.

>>36892839
>>based on instincts
Human ones
>>butterfly analogy
You aren't technically killing a butterfly, but you're preventing one. If you had said a crysalis or butterfly egg I'd say the same.
There's a reason we eat chicken eggs from unfertilized eggs.
>>ancapistan
The whole system is infected with cultural Marxism. In order to correct society, this particular issue happens to be very critical, and affects the justice system and the public transportation system. Degenerate children born to degenerates shouldn't be a strain insofar as committing crime goes- harsher penalties for drugs or gun related crimes for the lower class seems good. Obviously, kids born from consenting adults, and the parents trying to get welfare money for it should be denied.

>>36892474
>They don't realize birth control and condoms actively promote Stacy fucking Chad and Tyrone instead of them.

Beta NEETs are poor AND ugly anon. Anchoring humanity down is not the goal here. It needs refinement.

>>36892920
What do you think shlould be done? Banning condoms maybe?

>>36892928
>many people have lead a good life or improved their standard of living despite growing up poor.
a far lower percentage than people from the middle class and up

>>36892952
What you posted didn't qualify as anything I can respond to. You don't value human life you only pretend to. You probably participate in women hate threads and blogpost about shitty events in your life. Fortunately, not many people disregard human life like you do, the ones that care about politics don't usually hold such opinions, so it's not like you or others that hold such barren beliefs will affect anything anyways. There's no point in arguing with somenone so lacking in conviction.

>>36892523
>>36892557

Not what I expected!
How did she obtain custody?

What convinced her not to abort?
Has the issue come up since, has she admitted you were right?

>>36891423
I wouldnt hesitate or flinch.
I'm pro abortion to the extreme

>>36893090
Those people deserve to be poor then. We can't all be successful, but the poor in westernized countries at least have more luxuries than poors in other places

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>tfw had an abortion on friday
I was just under 8 weeks when they scooped that blueberry out of me. kind of mad me sad but it was the best decision.

RIP my uterus tho, its not very happy. still bleeding like a stuck pig and these cramps are awful. I got an IUD put in place so it shouldnt happen again

>>36893207
Shit man. Have some class.

>>36893060
Not all robots are ugly. The face threads are usually average. It's their own social ineptness (which their parents probably are to blame for, at least to a point) that prevents them, or their laziness. Yet they go and complain women and society in general are shitty. Why don't robots want a life where Stacy and her brainlet kids suffer?

>>36893135
>There's no point in responding to someone with no value of human life.

>There's no point in arguing with somenone so lacking in conviction.

This kind of rings hollow, now that you've said it twice, after responding to my posts two times.

>You probably participate in women hate threads and blogpost about shitty events in your life.

Ok. And you probably enjoy sucking feces out of your boyfriends asshole. See, anyone can make statements like this, you fucktard.

Without abortion(or with a poorly executed, failed abortion), we end up with people like you all over the place.

>>36893231
>Not all robots are ugly.

The ones that actually post their faces are not "robots" and you have to go back.

>>36893223
having class only matters if it can actually effect you or be tied to you in anyway, not when youre posting anon.

Yeah i'd go along with it then as soon as the abortion was complete break up with her. Dodged a bullet there

Do you get sad every time you blow your nose and throw the tissue down the toilet, or every time you jack off?
Shut the fuck up and stop being a little pansy. The world is disgustingly overpopulated as it is and more brats aren't going to solve the problem.

>>36893295
This isn't /r/TwoXChromosomes and literally nobody wants to talk about bleedinng vaginas outside of there.

>>36893046
>Human ones
so you are saying that that dog also has human instincts?

>you're preventing one
you are not preventing one, because there is no guarantee that it will become one

And the reason why we eat unfertilzed eggs is because, chicken fetuses aren't considered edible in western society

>we should allow degeneracy and then waste money on containing it because muh human life
double lel

>>36893207
You got an iud WHILE your shit was in that state?
You're gonna get a fucking cyst or scarring you idiot.

>>36893241
I already told you what's wrong with you and people like (you) yet here I am, typing yet again.
>>fucking feces out of your boyfriend's asshole
>>anyone can make posts like this
You aren't doing it very well, and you can't see past one thread on r9k to see how the whole of r9k is and it's patterns and intricacies. This place is shit and posters like you are shit for not seeing r9k for the way it is. You're not seeing the meta.
>>without abortion we end up with people like you all over the place
Then society and humans deserve to rot for not learning from their mistakes.

>>36893257
What about robots that self describe as 5/10, average?

>>36893348
>I already told you what's wrong with you and people like (you) yet here I am, typing yet again.

You did no such thing, you little bitch.

>You aren't doing it very well, and you can't see past one thread on r9k to see how the whole of r9k is and it's patterns and intricacies. This place is shit and posters like you are shit for not seeing r9k for the way it is. You're not seeing the meta.

Literally a non-sequitur. We are discussing a specific issue, and you just spew this shit out of your ass, that has nothing to do with this thread.

I certainly have no respect for human life when it comes to your ilk.

>>36893321
i literally shat a giant clot out of my vagina last night. sccchhhllluuuuurp

>>36893343
nigga you what, are you a surgeon? shit man and here I thought the three medical pressionals who have been doing this for over half of their life time would have an idea about whats safe to do.

aka shits perfectly fine, theres just a SLIGHTLY higher risk of your body rejecting the implant. no scarring or cyst you baby

>>36893340
No, I'm saying that the "instincts" you're referring to are human ones.
>>butterfly and human analogy
There's no guarantee a baby won't mature into an adolescent? Assuming poor at best circumstances? Will it just stop growing and die randomly? Will it spontaneously combust? You're reaching here.
>>the justice system
Needs refinement anyways

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>>36893398
Yes I did >>36893135
Here.
>>literally
Mhm

>>36891423
Think of it this way; miscarriages happen. What kind of a cruel God would give a miscarriaged baby a soul/ sentience? I personally think that children don't have "souls" until they pass that early term miscarriage window.

>>36893420
Get out you monstrosity

>>36893466

You told me that I "probably participate in women hate threads".

Yeah, that's a great argument, right there.

>>36893340
Or institute harsher sentences like life imprisonment for criminal drug dealers (not Tommy dealing to his school from his uncles' backyard bush)

>>36893512
>muh war on degeneracy

>>36893505
No, people that hold your opinion (not valuing human life, including a woman impregnated with a baby) are
>lacking in conviction
>numbers
Which is why talking to you makes no sense- you hold an opinion on human life so unpopular, it's pointless to bother with you because no one can outwardly have that much disrespect for human babies and get away with it in the public/political sphere.

>>36893433
If human life has enough value to not abort it, it has enough value to "waste" money on it.
If human life doesn't have enough value to "waste" money on it, then it doesn't have enough value to not abort it.

>>36893421
>No, I'm saying that the "instincts" you're referring to are human ones.
what makes them human, dog/cat etc. would react in same way

>There's no guarantee a baby won't mature into an adolescent
there is no guarantee that it will mature into happy human being

>>36893512
read a book nigger

>>36893556
>letting society degenerate into feudalistic anarchy
>disregard for humans

>>36893587
Surprisingly enough the "value" of human life in some countries like the US or pooland are in the negatives.

>>36893587
>>what makes human instincts human
>>equating a human's intelligence and potential intelligence to potatoes
Hmmmmmmmmmm well when you can show me animals as smart as humans, maybe I'll consider abortion since we kill other animal's offspring all the time.
>>no guarantee it will mature into a happy human being
You know who wants you to think like this? Globalists, who think personal happiness is the only important thing in life, even if it's someone else ie
>>as long as your happy I'm fine
You're feigning respect for human life but you really don't know how institutionalized you are.
>>read a book
How about you get a shred of honest morality you heathen

>>36893561
>people that hold your opinion are numbers

I enjoy our little discussion, because you are so good at not sounding like a retard, it's a real treat talking to you.

>people that hold your opinion are lacking in conviction

So, you mean to say that I don't really believe in what I say strongly? If so, wouldn't you consider it a good thing?

>disrespect for human babies

My contention is that the lump of cells in a womans stomach isn't a human baby, it's just a unfeeling mass of cells that has no thoughts.

>it's pointless to bother with you

Am I to assume you will keep saying this, even as you keep responding to me again and again?

>>36893561
So let the cities be flooded with poor mentally unstable unemployables because it's cool?

>>36893623
Yes and do you know who has that specific agenda, to make humans value life very little? Globalists and cultural marxists. The whole point of birth control and condoms is to get hummanity to descend into a selfish dystopia where we're all controlled by "the system". And that's just one of many tools

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>>36893688
>You're feigning respect for human life but you really don't know how institutionalized you are.

Says the shitstained moralist.

I totally would. I don't want to have a kid with a chick that doesn't want it, I know what that's like. If it's retarded I sure as hell am not gonna wipe some goofy bastard's ass until they die at 30.
Also, high chance I'm gonna walk out on them anyways and an abortion is cheaper than child support.

The last thing I'm gonna say is that I truly believe it is the woman's choice about whether or not she can blend that fucker up and shit it out. Ya, I know roasties are dumb, but they are the ones who are gonna be left with it when we probably ditch them, so they can make the choice.

>>36893742
Right so MORE PEOPLE to be born, live and die within the system is going to help. People committing to raising little bastards instead of holding these "marxists" or whatever you want to call them accountable for their actions.

>>36893706
Yes, because society and humans deserve it if the government in its entirety does everything non tyrannical to allow it. The government shouldn't force you to do anything, really. It has a responsibility to protect law abiding citizens- and if that means going borderline draconian until they finally understand, so be it. People should be able to live how they want until it harm themselves or others

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Also
>The amount of moralfags in this thread

>>36893779
>implying they wouldn't be put in jail for willfully endangering human lives
In all seriousness, humans should realize how evil they are if they get red pilled, and by human choice no longer listen to them

>>36893829
You're not making any sense woman.

>>36893623
what do you originally mean by this?

>>36893688
>Hmmmmmmmmmm well when you can show me animals as smart as humans, maybe I'll consider abortion since we kill other animal's offspring all the time.
literally every adult mammal is smarter than human fetus

>You know who wants you to think like this? Globalists, who think personal happiness is the only important thing in life, even if it's someone else ie
So what is the most important thing in life? Bronze age fairytale?

>You're feigning respect for human life
>human life has value as long is in the womb

>How about you get a shred of honest morality you heathen
morality is nothing but a spook, if it doesn't work there is no point of following it


Also I soo fucking done with you christcuck infiltrators

>>36893690
No, I mean, people that are of your opinion are far and few between- even if you all banded together as one unit, you couldn't do anything because no one would listen to your opinions. If you infiltrated another political party it might work but I doubt you've got the manpower or will. An example of infiltrating anothe political party- current "rinos" in the Republican Party represent our political axis sliding to the "left" so that even our "right wingers" are "liberal".
>>pointless to respond
You will eventually understand what I'm saying. At least I hope- I can only repeat what I'm saying more concisely so many times

>>36893879
>what do you originally mean by this?

That the subjective, moral "value" of human life is only a convenient bargaining chip for christcucks until it costs them money. Then they wanna talk numbers.

>>36893934
yeah totally agree, I'm so fucking tired by this hypocrites

>>36893879
>>adult mammal with human fetus
You can't compare the two they aren't in the same stage of life.
>>Bronze Age fairytale
You just aren't paying attention.
>>morality is nothing but a spook
Not only are you failing to defend abortion, you are an amoral brainlet.
>>done with christfucks
Go away. Make your own 8ch*n board. Be autistic someplace else

>>36893934
>>36893968
I can't speak for all Christians, but there are plenty people that deserve to be poor. Cut them off, only the people that need welfare should be on it.

>>36891423
Don't feel too bad OP, the daughter will ALWAYS end up like her mother, she would have been just as shallow and heartless.
Mother=daughter

>>36894022
Jesus would rape you for saying such a thing.

>>36893976
>You can't compare the two they aren't in the same stage of life.
we kill adult mammals, so killing creatures that are intelecually inferior or equal should be a problem

>You just aren't paying attention.
So enlighten me.

>le morality
>human life is precious, but we totally should imprison people and/or let them rot in poverty

>Go away. Make your own 8ch*n board. Be autistic someplace else
>Be autistic someplace else
>autistic
>someplace else
do you know what board are you christcuck

>>36894022
read a bible nigger

>>36893913

I have no ambition of infiltrating the government and changing policies. I suppose you could call that a lack of conviction, sure.

I'm just trying to convey to you what is right and just. I'm not actively trying to start a movement. So throwing around American political slang doesn't do you any favours.

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>>36891423
If they are going to have a difficult life and be laughed at from day 1 to the end, I think it's fine.

Abortion is fine, don't let /pol/ retards tell you different. If you are so against ending a life, why aren't you protesting meat factories?

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I'm going to wait a couple years and make a lot of money and be teenage girl's sugar daddies and make them have 5 kids each.

>>36894235
>I'm just trying to convey to you what is right and just.

Do. A. Better. Job. Or don't pretend to be an authority on a subject of which you have no understanding or insight.

>>36891423
I would fucking abort her.

>>36892727
All school shooters are domcrasts.
I dunno fuckers go do what you want I dont fucking care.
I just want something to care about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AwaV-lwDmc

>>36892839
who I am ameritard
I AM IN EUROPE HOLLY FUCK SHIT.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPGOaYR6Fuw

>>36894310
>I just want something to care about

Good luck, faggot

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>>36894345
YEAH FUCK IT ALL JUST BE AN OUTLAW LIKE THE REST OF MY FAMILY
JUST BE A DRUNK YOUR WHOLE LIFE
Just fuck me up senpai...

>>36894310
>>idk
>>I don't know
>>just want somethin to care about desu
Anon.........

>>36894264
>Abortion is fine, don't let /pol/ retards tell you different. If you are so against ending a life, why aren't you protesting meat factories?
A human life is now equivalent to an animal life. Sure buddy. I want vegans to leave.

>>36894235
He >>36894299
Said it for me

>>36894299
>Do. A. Better. Job.

I have told you exactly what I think, in simple and easy to understand terms. You are the one who goes spastic and accuses me of hating women and other shit that has nothing to do with anything.

>Or don't pretend to be an authority on a subject of which you have no understanding or insight.

That's rich, coming from you. What insights have you provided us with? You can't even respond to my arguments.

Here, I'll extend an olive branch and briefly summarize what I have already said several times:

1. Fetuses literally have no feelings or thoughts, therefore abortion can not be equated to killing a human being.

2. You do not have the right to force your personal beliefs on others. You might think abortion is immoral, but you don't get to force a female to have a child.

Thus far, you have not addressed any of this. All you've done is accuse me of hating women. You haven't even alluded to the things I say.

So, please, give us the insight which you claim to posses.

>>36894368
You seem more drunk than I am fampie.

>>36894197
The animal being intellectually inferior isn't why they are killed. Holy shit you are a brainlet. Those are two different stages of life. I bet you hate on sjws for not understanding biology yet here you are, making a fool out of yourself

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>>36894400
A bunch of unwanted cells are more important than a living creature that feels pain and emotion?

>>36894101
>>36894197
You're confusing the role of government with the role of society and family. It's their responsibility to care for the poor primarily, but they have to be willing. The government can only support so many blind autistics and physically fragile spergs, and hell the morbidly obese. They don't deserve welfare

>>36894524
The government is literally only there to take a cut of whatever you make and do with the money as they see fit. Only consistent thing any system of government has ever done, throughout history, is make sure people are happy little goys.

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>>36894481
>>unwanted cells
>>not living

>>36894524
>The government can only support so many blind autistics and physically fragile spergs, and hell the morbidly obese. They don't deserve welfare

So they deserve to be born, but they deserve to die. And you're the one who's not retarded?

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>>36894445
>>baby's have no feelings
Can you support this?
>>force beliefs on others
Humans should value human life, and most do, unlike you.
>>force a woman to have a child
>>that she got from consensual sex

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>>36894556
Did I say the cells aren't living? They can't feel pain though, unlike animals.

>>36894641
>Humans should value human life, and most do, unlike you.

You know a place where they "value" human life most of all? India.

>>36894621
No, their family should take care of them. Their family should love the little autistic they berthed- if the parents tried again for Chad/Stacy or at least a normie/high functioning incel, the retard probably won't understand, it will just love its siblings. Now, if two consenting adults berth a retard...that's a different story I don't have the answer to>>36891520

>>36894676
>>referencing a poo in the loo 3rd world shithole
They also follow a religion that's devil worship (idolatry, nature "spirits")

>>36894701
>Their family should love the little autistic they berthed

Look you fucking moron. If they had this kid for moral reasons in the first place, FORCE themselves to love them - yes, force - only to get frustrated and stop caring for them emotionally midway through their development it's a net loss. You can't make people play house with you, faggot.

>>36894732
Well I guess them and the US have that in common after all.

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>>36894654
>>36894481
>>a bunch of unwanted cells are more important than a living creature that feels pain an emotion
No but you implied it

>>36894732
spoken like a true christfag

>>36894765
No, the United States doesn't have anything like India. There is no national religion.

>>36894479
>smarter than other people
>christcuck
one of those things is not like the other

>>36894778
Well I didn't mean to :3

>>36894802
>There is no national religion.

Nice try, crypto kike

>>36891423
What's with the pic? wtf how does this relate to abortion? also if she truly wasn't ready (like I'm 15 and I hate school lmao instagram!) then she should have. Based on your post, you kept her and you were fine but I think that people who truly aren't ready can have them (theres a difference for not ready financially, and emotionally).

>>36894742
>>you can't make people play house
>>net loss
How many parents of a retard have you met/known of that hated their child, and what did they do with it? You simply aren't/won't ever be a parent that can truly live their child if you couldn't love it even if it was mentally challenged. You're probably a 20 something uni fag who isn't thinking about the future or what a family of your own is really like- you dream x girl and fucking but that's it. You're shortsighted

>>36891423
My six years younger brother got a girl pregnant when he was in 11th grade. It was a one-night stand he had at a party. He came to me scared and in tears when he found out and scared to death our parents would kill him (they would have).

I had no idea he'd been having sex. Just a year or two before he was doing shit like playing video games. The girl got an abortion not long after, and our parents never found out about it.

>>36894641
>>baby's have no feelings
>Can you support this?

Can you support the supposition that a lump of cells is somehow capable of feeling emotions and having thoughts? If you can, then next you can go ahead and prove to us that rocks have feelings.

>Humans should value human life, and most do, unlike you.

A piece of meat is not a human.

ALSO, SEEING AS ABORTION IS LEGAL IN MOST PLACES, IT IS CLEAR THAT MOST PEOPLE DO NOT VALUE LIFE IN THE SAME FUCKED UP WAY THAT YOU DO.

^I had to capitalize that, just to make sure you wouldn't ignore it in your stupid response. (not that it's a guarantee, you just post whatever pops into your empty head)

>>force a woman to have a child
>>that she got from consensual sex

So, does your stance differ on pregnancies that are a result of rape? If they don't then this is a moot point.

>>36894832
You obviously haven't followed my line of posts, maybe my posting style isn't distinct enough so lll stop you there- I hate globalism and cultural Marxism and have posted repeatedly about it.

>>36894879
My brother is very VERY autistic and cannot talk or clean himself. I don't think he should have never been born, but my family was completely destroyed over it.

>>36894919
>maybe my posting style isn't distinct enough

How'd you guess? You used to people pointing out how much of a cookie cutter memelord you are?

>>36894910
>>in instances of rape
Not relevant right now but yes
>>baby's feelings and emotions
Sure http://www.doctorsonfetalpain.com/fetal-pain-the-evidence/
>>piece of meat is not human
No it is human "meat" that becomes an adult
>>abortion is legal in most places
Can you show me (in America if possible) where the people elected this decision?

>>36891799
DEUS VULT
NIGGERS

>>36895006
>http://www.doctorsonfetalpain.com/fetal-pain-the-evidence/

So, do I need to explain to you the difference between pain receptors and feelings/thoughts?

>>in instances of rape
>Not relevant right now but yes

So, it's ok to murder a human being if the circumstances that led up to his existance involved rape? Alright.

>No it is human "meat" that becomes an adult

Unless its aborted. Then its just meat.

>Can you show me (in America if possible) where the people elected this decision?

Yes, I can, but I'm not doing your homework for you. If you care, I'm sure you can look it up.

Unless you are saying that abortion is illegal in most of the world, you don't have a point.

I know it's hard to stomach, but the world consists of more than America, you redneck.

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>>36894935
>>personal anecdote
>> 1
Regrettably discarded
>>36894974
If you can prove I'm a cookie cutter memelord with an ngram like pic related or something similar, post and poster discarded

>>36895175
>redneck

Rednecks don't go on anime imageboards, just fat LARPers from flyover states who are pissed that their mom didn't buy the right chicken tendies. They scream and cry about muh human life because their body pillow is infertile.

>>36895175
>>pain
>>not a feeling
Really gets my neurons firing
>>not doing my hwk for me
What you really meant
>>I'm too lazy to support my claim

>>36895306
>>willfully falling for the tendies meme
I want summer to go

>>36895289
Looks like you're out of steam buddy. Just walk away, at least pretend to have some dignity.

>>36895382
>>looks like your out of steam
You two are inconsequential vultures. All you are here to do is bait. Cast away faggot

>>36895345
http://abortion-clinics.eu/abortion-europe/abortion-prohibited/

Here, you retard.

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>>36895422
You'll probably pee your 4XL rubber pajamas tonight.

>>36895175
>>unless it's aborted, than it's just meat
Further proof you're under the shroud of the globalist agenda. Unconsciously consuming from various fast food establishments, piddling around on the internet, wasting your time on a futile and increasingly immoral argument you supposed. Getting fatter. I bet you'd eat wingstop even if the local one was caught putting rat meat in it. You'd just go one to the next one, putting filthy contaminants in yourself.
>>my position on rape
I said it was different, but that doesn't mean abortion

>>36895006
>>36895175
E L E C T E D
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States
Couldn't find anything for Europe
https://www.loc.gov/law/help/abortion-legislation/europe.php

Besides, Europe is already controlled by Globalists and is being repatedly fucked by rapefugees- what will happen to America if action isn't taken. The only reason Globalists have power is because euros blindly put them there.

>>36895523
>I said it was different, but that doesn't mean abortion

We are talking about abortion, in case you're having trouble keeping up. In case of a rape, you think abortion should either be legal or illegal.

>the rest of your post

I rarely partake in fast food(if we assume, for a moment, that it has anything to do with the topic we are discussing).

>globalist agenda

Yeah. I came to the conclusion that one human being shouldn't tell another what to do, because I'm brainwashed by some vague entity like "globalist agenda". It's not because I have opinions that I formed by being alive for an extended period of time.

>>36891423
THOSE FUCKING TITS HOLY SHIT

>>36895732

I forgot America is a shithole.

>>36895781
>>formed your own opinions by being alive for an extended period of time
>>globalist agenda and "kikes"
>>vague
The thread is more imminent than you think.
>>post on meat
Anyone can claim they don't eat fast food.
>>in case of rape
Im not obligated to share, this entire time it's been about consensual sex and the result of life in the mom.

>>36895843
>>36894974
>>36894732
Same fag?
>>original post pleas

>>36891423
Who the fuck is this giant titty goddess

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My ex got pregnant, we had to scramble the babies brains through aborting. I didn't, and wouldn't think twice about doing it again.

>>36895894
>Anyone can claim they don't eat fast food.

That would include you. Meaning, I would be equally as justified of accusing you of stuffing your face with burgers on a daily basis.
>this entire time it's been about consensual sex and the result of life in the mom.
Apparently, it hasn't. You have also seen fit to stick misogyny, fast food and "globalist agenda" into this discussion.

>Im not obligated to share
Sure. Oddly evasive answer though, which makes me suspect that on some level, you yourself understand how stupid your opinion is.

And already we have drifted from the subject in question.

>>36896034
Re read the chain of replies
>misogyny
More like contempt for stupid people, or ones that can't control themselves.
>fast food point
Yes
>oddly evasive answer
>>36891423
>>drifted from the question. Ok, then reset? Some how?

>>36896120
>Re read the chain of replies

I promise you I have a better recollection of them than you do.

>More like contempt for stupid people, or ones that can't control themselves.

No, I was referring to when you literally accused me of hating women, because of my stance on abortion.

>>36896179
>>accused you of hating wymn
I'm sorry. I wasn't accusing you- I was generalizing you and the "meta" of r9k- where Christian general threads and women hate general threads share the same board. Maybe you don't participate in those or blog posts, but I was/am highly doubtful.

>>36896274

If I held such opinions, I wouldn't feel the need to hide them now. When arguing with someone, just argue with what they say, don't prematurely lump them in some group, and then argue against that.

Besides, being anti-abortion seems more misogynistic to me then the alternative.

>>36896331
I'm not certain I argued against you using that, but ok. I only said that after I said everything else. Honestly, I just want society to learn from their mistakes, but I can't force them to because I'm just one dude. I think that
>>preserving human life is important
>>education is important
I don't want to force my beliefs on others, but I've read about past societies/civilizations that have fallen due to similar mistakes. I don't want a government that forces you to do anything, I just want it to prod people in the right direction, and be less flexible on crime.

>>36891423
Do not associate goddess Yulia Nova with such ugly language, anon. It's blasphemous.

>>36891423
I wouldn't want to have a kid with someone who wasn't ready. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

>>36896459
>I can't force them to because I'm just one dude

Well, same here. In case you thought I was secretary of state or something.

>>preserving human life is important

You think abortion has any considerable impact? Unless you mean "preserving ALL human life", then abortion isn't even worth mentioning.

> I've read about past societies/civilizations that have fallen due to similar mistakes

I don't claim to be an expert, but if there is a civilization that fell due to abortion laws, I'd love to hear of it.

> I don't want a government that forces you to do anything, I just want it to prod people in the right direction, and be less flexible on crime.

Well, it's kind of a conflict of interests, to some degree. When it comes to abortion, it's either "everyone can make their own decision", or "we will make the decision for this person". I don't know if you can find a middle ground there.

Not gonna read 200+ posts.

Abortion debates are always dishonest.

Pro-choice people just dehumanize the fetus, and or deny basic biology, 'It's not a life!'. Or if they're honest enough to admit that it is, then they say, their rights to have a free and unmolested life supersedes the right of a growing human life to become viable.

Pro-lifers obviously throw religion, hyperbole, and name calling into the mix, and then it just becomes ugly and the other side wants to pick up the ball and go home.

The lack of honesty comes into play, on the ethical implications of a pro or con position, and how society and human life is demeaned by either position. No one really talks about why you shouldn't do X because it has an effect on Y. Or the reversal.

>>36897209
Well if ya read the fucking posts you'd see that cause and effect WAS discussed.

>>36891611
I didn't say anything about pawning them off on my parents or grandparents. I just meant we would get help when we needed it, because both of our families actually love and care for us.

My mother-in-law has been pushing for us to have a baby since the second year we were dating. And seeing as how she's a doctor, she has made the offer for financial support if we want/need it for a child. Even including day care costs and private school tuition, because she was dirt poor when she was a young mother and doesn't want her daughter and grandson/daughter struggling.

>>36894903
Ew, highschool abortions seem to be pretty commonplace nowadays, your bother dodged a bullet tho

>>36897499
Why don't you stop being a cuck faggot and put a son in that girl? If you're not gonna do it, then hand her over to me, and I'll do it.

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I'd say it was up to her, and if she aborted it I would leave her.

One needs to have standards in this life.

abort all tards

>>36897668
He definitely wasn't ready to have a kid, no.

I'm kind of jealous that he was screwing girls left and right though, when so far my only sexual experience has been two times with prostitutes.

>>36891839
you are going to trigger religioncucks

>Retardation
100% abortion i'll walk out on the relationship if she even considered it. I personally could not live with myself with such an ailment.

>Unplanned

>>36899246
Fuck accidental post

>Unplanned
Depending if my parents would help until I finish university.