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Are men getting less desperate?

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I am under the impression that men are growing a back bone? Beta providers seem to be a dying breed. The guy that married a woman after she rode the cock carousel in her 20s rather play video games now? Most men would date single mothers. No man, not even an incel virgin will raise another mans child now? I am not claiming that all men tuned Chad. But that more and more men choose virginity over roasties.

Am I imagining this? Are men less desperate?
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>>36843517
>Free full HD porn anywhere, anytime at the click of a button
>men less eaaily manipulated by sex
Gee, I wonder
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>>36843547
Don't forget about the sexbots.
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>>36843685

Women will never allow them.
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>>36843685
and traps

many beta and omega man are finding the joys in traps and other men over single mothers.
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>>36843517
Its nice that at least now some women will have to try to be love-able in order to be loved, instead of just checking their pussy card in and leaving with a free struggling beta under their arm.
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>>36843739
Then we won't allow women.
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>>36843754
I'm a trap and I don't want a beta I want chad
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>>36843837
I'm a trap and I want other traps, Chads, or cute shy nerdy betaboys.
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>Beta providers seem to be a dying breed.
Explosion of young female "asmrtists" on patreon seems to invalidate your argument.
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>>36843739
Women will lose their rights real fucking quick
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>After getting kicked off the cock carousel I need to find a beta to siphon cash from quick

Every goddamn time, it's almost like some kind of parody.
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>>36843885
But you're not allowed to date other girls that's gay
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Yup. I think it's because of the openly misogynistic ideologies that have sprung up in recent years, like MGTOW and different varieties of the alt right.

>Beta providers seem to be a dying breed.
This is definitely not true though. The majority of society is unaffected in their dating habits.
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>>36844161
this is the opposite side of the coin. women learned how to use the internet to snare beta providers without really owing them a damn thing, least of all sex
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>>36843517
Poor little Jenna Fischer
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>>36843517
Why do women make fun of "nice guys" who act like they're entitled to a gf, and then turn around and act the same way
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>>36843517
I'm not part of the MGTOW but I definitely stopped giving a shit about not having a gf and anything related to that

I'm perfectly fine with my current situation, my sadness is not caused by not having a gf
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>>36843739
>men not having sex with women is a threat to female independence
someone unironically believes in this opinion
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>>36844449
She's not acting like she's entitled to a partner, she's just expressing her frustration and sadness that she's having a hard time finding one. This would also be a fine point for a dude in her position to make. It can be a subtle distinction, but it's real. Not all women will get it, and some are bound to act hypocritically.
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>>36844521
But I've seen women (and men) make fun of guys who are just expressing their frustration like she is, telling them to get over it and that they have no right to complain.
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>>36843739
Those are for all the loosers that can't get a woman because they are worthless, aggressive bastards. I'm looking forward to the commercialisation of sexbots. Assholes can socialize with their robots, leave woman alone and don't have an offspring. Perfect solution.
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>>36843776
Has watching porn taught you that?
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>>36843795
>we won't allow women
>we
>allow
there is no we
also: you don't have the authority to allow or disallow things
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>>36843885
I'm not a trap but I want the same.
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>>36844580
I believe you, since like I said, many women don't understand the difference and will therefore act like hypocrites. Or even act like hypocrites because they are hypocrites. But still I wonder, are you sure you can recognise entitlement?
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>>36844210
Don't worry no woman besides your mum will enter your basement castle.
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>>36844635
youre contradicting yourself roastie
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>>36844864
I'm not. Even sexist scumbags are still out there, trying to get a woman. If they have a sexbot for socializing they will leave the woman alone. That is great and something to look forward to.
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>>36843517
Maybe so, but don't expect it to last. In about 10-15 years you'll see a MASSIVE propaganda effort to get males to "man up" and marry used-up women, and it will be at least partially successful.
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Not so much less desperate as less willing to put up with women just for the sake of companionship/pussy
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>>36843517
Every fucking time.

> being independent
> going from place to place, man to man

Fucking kek what a retard
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36844932
>hose are for all the loosers that can't get a woman
>leave woman alone and don't have an offspring
you fucking inbred
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>>36843685
Can't get here soon enough.
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>>36843517
Awww are you upset that you can't manipulate men Now? You are now literally a useless fuck hole like you where all along. Sad isn't it.
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>>36843739
capitalism will rule the day in my country (merica)

the eu, that's a different story
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>>36845057
>those are for all the loosers that can't get a woman

are you just pretending or are you really this dumb?

Just because someone can't get a woman doesn't mean they stop trying to get one and maybe some drunken, broken whore will even give them an offspring. But if there are sexbots all of this changes for the better.
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I really wish women would stop trying to be equal when there's plenty of evidence that they objectively aren't.
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>>36845211
What's the evidence? And why is equality something you have to earn? It isn't that for white guys.
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>>36845211
>I really wish...
Good thing no one cares for your wishes and your missinterpretations of reality.
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36845156
so, they can get woman after all
you fucking retard
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>>36845239
No, not on a regular base. Only if some woman errs fatally.
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>>36844504
you'd be surprised how many retarded opinions women, especially feminists, hold if you ever had the unfortune of having to talk with one.
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Personally, I'm not less desperate; I just have no illusions that I'll ever make it. Losing all hope is freedom.
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>are men getting less desperate?

I guess, i think people are just not as into sex as they we're in the past. Pic related. Women are going to make themselves more desirable outside of attractiveness because people are becoming numb towards the whole "fuck sluts and party" bullshit the mainstream media has been feeding them. They would rather have real relationships.
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>>36845234
>What's the evidence?
Have you ever met a woman?
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>>36843517
Men: I am growing stronger
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>>36843517
>choose virginity

Or they just, you know, don't get married/get them pregnant. You can still date them and have sex, anon. Just don't let them move in with you or get them pregnant and you're good.
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>>36846827
Several, and I've met many men too. What's the quality I'm supposed to be comparing? The one that justifies equality? I don't think I've ever noticed any thing that all men would be superior to all women at.
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>>36843517
Flip side of the massive leap in networking between the sexes. Women have used it to pursue multiple partners by trial and error, men just keep the knowledge in the back of their minds that hey can find something better than they could otherwise in their immediate surroundings.

These are also the behaviors their biologies support best. Women are time dependent, men aren't.
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>>36846925
Uhm hello? Physical strength and Endurance? Intelligence? You keep telling yourself that women are just as capable but it's simply not true. The only thing women are better at seem to be giving birth (obviously), nurturing and some jobs with a lot of human interaction.
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>>36847229
>Physical strength and Endurance?
Might be your best case. But it's pretty irrelevant to what rights a person should have. And you still can't use it as a justification for making the cut along gender lines. At the very least, you'll end up taking away the rights of an awful lot of men so you won't have to give them to any women. And all men will lose their rights as they age.
>Intelligence?
Two bell curves that overlap almost entirely. If you're going to make intelligence the condition for equality, you'll end up accepting roughly equal numbers of men and women into the master race, and relegating roughly equal amounts of them into the subhuman class.
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>>36847329
Simple fact is that in a meritocracy of proportional rights to work, a man will do more work than a woman by virtue of dimorphic traits.

We all see this already with the supposed wage gap. What appears to be discrimination is actually inherent to human behavior.

Can blind equality be said to be fair if it must diminish the value of mens work and promote the value of women's work?
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>>36843517
That and people don't know how to communicate anymore. I find even extroverts are shit at small talk. Compare the conversations of old men in bars versus Millennials and younger. People just don't want to or can't speak to each other in person or on the phone.
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>>36843739

Mr. Schlomoberg won't let feminism stand in between a billion-dollar industry. For once I can unironically say "Thank you, greatest ally." Plus, there is always Japan. Glorious Nippon will not bend to autistic feminist screeching over sexbots.
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>>36847553
I can't parse your first sentence, so I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. It doesn't seem to be very relevant to the point I tried to make twice before, and you seem to not understand that point, so I'll try one more time.

Pick a trait, any trait, that supposedly justifies giving someone rights. (Work productivity, or amount of work perhaps?)
Variation within the sexes is going to be much, much larger than variation between sexes.
Therefore, you literally cannot find a system that grants rights based on superiority, and grants them to all men while excluding all women from having them.

This is my contribution to the discussion, and you don't have to take an interest in it. You don't have to accept it, but I hope if you reject it you at least do so after having understood what I'm saying.

The wage gap and whether discrimination exists or not and whether something should be done about it are different topics. Discussing them would require going through evidence, which I've done a million times in similar contexts and find tiresome at this point. If this was the conversation you were trying to have all along, I apologise for having wasted your time, but you kinda brought it on yourself. Be clearer next time.
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>>36843517
can't say for others, but I surely am.

like seriously, it gets tiring having to cope with some bullshit.
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>>36847553
>>36847831
Ohh, I get the first sentence now.

No, a man will not always do more work than a woman. Not by virtue of dimorphic traits, or for any other reason. I refer you to the post before this one.
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>>36847878
Explain why women appear to earn 79% of what men earn, overall.
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>>36844161
those are a minority
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>>36847924
I'll take this bait.

Overall - because more women are in less paying jobs. And men do the hard work, which is paid more.
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>>36847985
If this is true the why are most college graduates now female?
Surely education correlates with salary?
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>>36843739
money is worth more than roastie's opinion
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>>36848021

Because women tend to get majors that don't pay well like women's studies and early childhood development while men go into STEM degrees.
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>>36848091
Are women stopped from pursuing STEM degrees?
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>>36843739
>women won't allow them

Fuck that. I will personally finance sexbots if it costs me for the rest of my life.
No wethole cunt is going to tell me that I can't put my dick into a machine.
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>>36846647
>I guess, i think people are just not as into sex as they we're in the past.
stress tends to do that
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>>36848134

No, STEM programs and companies in STEM fields bend over backwards for female applicants. Deciding a college major is 100% personal choice and women CHOOSE majors that aren't very desireable in the job market, then autistically screech about muh wage gap when a man who majored in petroleum engineering makes 5x more than the average woman.
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>>36848021
>>36848134
honestly, am not from US so I can't say
but if you actually look at jobs, more education =/= more money
there are still jobs like in public service that are needed to be done
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>>36847924
I don't think you want to know. If you did, you'd research it yourself. It's really not very hard. I think you're only asking this as a disingenuous debate tactic, to derail a conversation when I just said I'm making a different point entirely and not in the least interested in heading in this direction.
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>>36848021
Because the modern education system is always backed up by government trying to get as much people in college as possible, to make the numbers nice in time for the next election. And to push women in college they had to offer shit degrees.
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>>36844716
We the people. You aren't invincible, white knigh asshole
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>>36847924
I know this is bait but fuck it why not:

>More men in higher paid positions
>More men in dangerous positions
>Men naturally go after the things that make money, how many female plumbers/HVAC/electricians do you see? Because the number compared to men is borderline zero
>men are more likely to be dedicated full time to their jobs
>men are more likely to be competitive for promotions/advancements/raises, which nets more cash
Honestly if you really wanted there's info as to why that's out there and it's not because men are trying to "oppress" women for shits and giggles. Also you can't give someone less money solely on the basis that they're a woman, that's been illegal for decades now. And while of course there's exceptions to the rule, I from personal experience can testify that it's the men who go after the dirty jobs that pay well much much more than the women who go after college degrees, often with quite a nice scholarship because of bagina :DDD, and still somehow manage to bomb completely in terms of life and finances.
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>>36844635
Yet you're still posting on r9k, mr. pussy central
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Why do you guys think women choose to go to school, but to opt out of the higher salaries offered by STEM.
Why do they do this?

Are they different from men in that regard?

Perhaps some sort of dimorphic ttait is shaping their earning behavior.
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>>36848536
There are a lot of nice robots here and I hope those will get a nice irl girl soon. I was talking about the woman hating, aggressive idiots.
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Now why should earning affect rights you ask?
'Rights' has unfortunately come to mean 'access to resources'.
People talk about a right to not go hungry, a right to a home, a right to be educated.
All these things are access to resources.

And in a capitalist society like ours, resources are earned by work.

Your earnings decide your degree of freedom and rights.

And women mysteriously choose to work less than men without fail.

Choose? Or can only.
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>>36844635

> I'mma shame and insult you till you obey!

Women: So fucking boring.
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>>36848629

I don't understand the pointless woman hating too to be frank... I only hate the absolutely merciless, inhumane system that they create. I'd rape any woman and kill any man, but never because of their gender.
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>>36848546
STEM has an intimidating reputation, the majority of people of both sexes are made to feel like they're permanent outsiders to it and it's unattainable from an early age, so they don't really consider it. You have to be considered "intelligent" and treated like it, or it's very unlikely you'll develop that kind of self image, or that kind of skills. People are less likely to consider a girl intelligent, or treat her like she's intelligent, than they are an equally talented boy. This is even more pronounced when it comes to STEM type intelligence.

Also, STEM environments really are quite hostile to women.
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>>36848666
>> I'mma shame and insult you till you obey!
Thats the exact strategy those
>leave my board, roastie
spergs are trying to use
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>>36848713
I'd also get rid of subhumans like you anytime. It's not because of your gender but because of your words.
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>being nice and going all in for a chance at love is equal to not having a back bone

Men had enough.
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>>36846510
Soapandshower was based.
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>>36848725
I know a female software engineer.
Clearly very bright, she rakes in the fucking money and loves her job. None of this hostility you speak of.
What evidence do you offer for this perceived hostility?
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>>36848657
Work productivity isn't objectively measured. It's determined in a very political way, and basically is a function of your privilege. There's nobody in this society making unbiased measurements and calculations about whose work contributions benefited society or mankind most so that they could be compensated with proportional access to resources. So mostly it's people and groups with power and influence making things so that the sort of things they do are well paid, and the sort of things other people do aren't.
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Everyone knows he can just take a qt from thirld world.
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>>36843517
> and going from place to place and man to man

That made me laugh. The way she phrased it, it's obvious that she knows deep down exactly how she fucked up and how badly she fucked up.

How is it the case that 20 year old girls STILL don't know the right way to do it:
1: Don't be a slut.
2: You're at your most desirable point in your whole life.
3: Use your desirability to find a guy and settle down.

Is there someone going around telling women that everything will be okay if they just whore around for 20 years and then finally try to find a decent guy?
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>>36844779
You have to go back.
>>36844635
> you cant get woman because you are sexist
We are invaded.
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>>36848915
Fuck the fuck off, because that's exactly what money does. It's exchanged for goods and services based on their value to the recipient.

If market forces have been corrupted by meddling little cronie fuckos, it's because they're apportioning resources to compensate for poor workers. Like women. Like all the other net benefactors of socialist wealth redistribution.
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>>36848725
>really are quite hostile to women
So? It's hostile to literally everyone, women being no exception. They're regarded as being the best degrees to ever get, as well as some of the hardest, so why wouldn't they have that type of atmosphere? She can either step up to the plate and take the heat that's in the kitchen or she can go somewhere else, but I'll only consider one to actually be a "strong" woman, and it sure as hell won't be the one autistically screeching about gender. And guess what: the women who actually fully graduate with that kind of degree without getting completely coddled actually tend to do well in their field of work and rake in the money at the same time. STEM isn't more hostile to women just for the sake of it, its hostile to everyone to make sure the best and brightest get the degrees and move on from there, though if you're raised like a princess from day 1 of life I guess I can see why you would think that.
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>>36848905
None. I know plenty of women in STEM too, but let's face it, telling you about them and myself really isn't any kind of evidence. I have nothing to gain by starting research on online sources so I can offer a summary for you.
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>>36848995
>Fuck the fuck off, because that's exactly what money does.
In theory it would do this, in a society with perfect equality to begin with, so that established interests can't manipulate the situation to their benefit and everyone's ability to pay was similar.
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>>36848983
>We are invaded.
You are. And we will take you down little fuckers.
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>>36849027
Then you concede there's no hostility and that women are hesitant to pursue STEM for other reasons.
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>wants the beta at 30
>betas have noticed the marriage trap
>has to face competition
>NEVER had to face competition before, just needed to be 'available'
Welcome to the first half of our life and the rest of yours, bitches.
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>>36847924
Not per-hour, controlling for occupation. It's literally illegal to pay people less for the same work because of their gender.

It's because women, on the whole, do jobs that pay less, for a whole slew of factors we won't go into.
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>>36849073
It's almost as if perfect equality is an illusion isn't it.
If you think somehow that a dollar I hold is worth more than a dollar you or someone else holds, you're mistaken.
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>>36847329

>Two bell curves that overlap almost entirely

Yeah but wheres the peak? Men are on average smarter than women, deal with it.

Source: Jensen, A. R., & Reynolds, C. R. (1983)
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>>36849024
>It's hostile to literally everyone, women being no exception.
I was saying there it's more hostile to women than it is to men.

>And guess what: the women who actually fully graduate with that kind of degree without getting completely coddled actually tend to do well in their field of work and rake in the money at the same time.
Not exactly "rake in money", but I'm aware women do well in the field if they get in it.
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>>36849117
In your dreams
you willl stay a KHV forever scumbag
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>>36849081
I dont honestly care, I know I will always be able to start a robot-related thread, and your retarded baits are easily hided.
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>>36849193
We'll see to that.
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>>36849115
It is an obvious feminist troll.
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>>36843739
>Women will never allow them.

Well, women will never be able to prevent sexbots, because they're not in any position to stop them.

The men are in control of the sexbots, so men will get the sexbots they want.

That's one of the benefits of being the sex that does engineering.

Prediction: Some day, the cost of buying a sexbot will be coverable under medical insurance, because they'll be considered an effective treatment for depression caused by involuntary celibacy.
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>>36846647
>sexual partners 8
>tfw im 24 khv
Be honest, is it too late for me?
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>>36847329

>B-but muh gender studies!

Yeah lets look at a more recent paper on intelligence. Lynn, R., & Irwing, P. (2004)

Physically weaker AND mentally inferior, well at least you have useful holes.
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I'm desperate for my onitis

don't send help, I wanna die alone
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>>36849181
And you will be a perpetual single mother.
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>>36849115
Not at all. I offered an explanation to a question that was asked. One that I happen to believe to be true. I did not do so with any kind of interest in a hostile debate, and I'm not going to get into one with you. Obviously I'm not going to change my opinion on what the truth here is because you're asking me to do homework and I can't be bothered. The information on this is easily available, but it is a lot of work to process and present.
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>>36849181
Awww I am so hurt. Is roastie mad seeing all the evil friends posting those babypics?
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>>36843517
>going from man to man
>finally coem to a point where I'm ready to settle
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>>36849278
>Awww I am so hurt.
Glad I got you. You deserved it.
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>>36849156
>If you think somehow that a dollar I hold is worth more than a dollar you or someone else holds, you're mistaken.
Well, this isn't what I think.

>>36849160
I know. But how is it relevant? You seem to be responding to just one isolated sentence in an entire series of posts making a point.
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>>36849244
Yes, those would be the two bell curves I was talking about. What's your point?
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>>36849258
I don't think you can properly predict what my life will be after seeing a sole postings.
If you belive that, you are dumber than I thought.
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>>36847924

>Muh wage gap!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWBXbGVyQU

Really? this shit again?
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>>36849265
Present facts please.
Your beliefs won't persuade anybody.

Fact is that women are heavily incentivized to pursue STEM and overall still balk at it. It is evidently not hostile to women from both our anecdotal experiences and the policy of incentives.

And the simplest explanation is likely true. Women don't want to because women aren't behaviorally predisposed to it.
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>>36849363
Says the one who started the assumptions about others. Cute, is that what modern education boils down to?
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Women in western society are still completely protected and shilled for by men, 24/7.

The only real difference now is the "men who are opting out" are causing a huge rift in the demographics, because in the past, those guys would have been the "good guys" women tell to "man up" when they are 30 and Chad doesn't want to fuck them anymore.

I am so glad that the social shaming isn't working anymore. Young men shouldn't have to do something they don't want to.
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>>36849331

The curves overlap but they show men are smarter than women so your original premise is flawed.

Mentally inferior
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>>36849400
If women want men they should be foaming at the mouth as they rip up the welfare state.
I don't need to care for women because I'm forced to remotely and impersonally.
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>>36849400

Nope, those women are getting picked up by the non-white immigrants into the country. Why do you think the government allows mass immigration? It's so women get fucked and give birth.
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>>36844353
I always thought this woman looked like pam.
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>>36849312

Your trolling, or proving me correct by being too mentally inferior to understand how my statement relates to yours.
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>>36849393
Chances are good you are a KHY and stay one forever considering you are on /r9k/ and also a scumbag. Probability I got this correct is high.
You on the other haand don't have much facts at hand to make correct assumptions about me.
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>>36849243
>>sexual partners 8
>>tfw im 24 khv
>Be honest, is it too late for me?

No. You don't need 8 sexual partners -- you only need one.

I'm almost twice your age and I have had (and still have) only one sex partner. That's the only number I ever wanted or needed.
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>>36849449
>>36849476

These issue all tie into each other, it's complex. The disappearance of the so called "real man" had to do with many things, technology was a huge factor there. Immigrants replacing whites is what happens when pretty much everything that secured the existence of whites is stripped away. /pol/ is trying to resurrect something that has long died.
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>>36848134
the tech, it and other stem field are screaming for female employees because of the diversity meme so they have no freaking excuse to not go into those areas
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>>36849493
If everyone who can defeat you in an argument is a scumbag, you're in a world of scumbags honey.
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>>36849493
You are some bitch arguing on 4chan for feminism. That's pretty much a local catlady sign waiting to be stamped. But hey maybe my assumptions are as ill aimed as yours, time will tell.
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>>36843517
Red pill is just a meem
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>>36849437
>>36849488
Did you read the post you responded to originally at all? Can you paraphrase it for me so I see you understood it? Because I just can't figure out how what you're saying now is supposed to be any kind of counterargument to what I said in it.
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>>36843739
>women
>getting something done
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>>36846647
Marriage rate and general coupling is on the downswing too. More people are taking the red pill.
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>>36849550
I call you that because of your earlier statement. You are mixing two different things.
Also: Why do you think you defeated me little pest? Because you told me that I made an assumption myself? Fuck off.
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>>36846647

That's average. Chad skews the numbers. In reality, women average 400 partners in a lifetime while the average man only averages 3.
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>>36849666
>More people are taking the red pill

No, beta white men are getting left behind. Women are just getting with black and brown men. And guess what? Black and brown men don't marry, they just fuck and dump. So millions and millions of white women are just having mixed kids and being single mothers while living off the state.
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>>36849559

>arguing on 4chan
It's called shitposting

>for feminism
you even got this wrong
It's for equality you brainlet
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>>36849668
No, you are defeated because you have not a single argument but whining. But flail around more it is amusing to watch.
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>>36849384
I'm not trying to persuade anybody. By now I'm just pretty much trying to leave this conversation. An explanation was asked, I offered it. I did not do it to enter a debate or to prove my point. I interpreted the question as a sincere expression of curiosity, and offered a point of view and possible explanation.

>from both our anecdotal experiences
You're including me in this? Because I don't agree. It is not my experience, or the experience of most of the women in STEM I know.
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>>36849734
>defeated because you have not a single argument but whining
you also didn't use an argument as you stated
>Welcome to the first half of our life and the rest of yours, bitches
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>>36849476
No they aren't. Interracial marriages are a very small percentage.
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>>36849792

I just told you that black and brown men don't marry retard.
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>>36849668
Please try to appear coherent and argue evident facts rather than poorly construed personal assumptions.

I'm someone else but this is really too much of a trainwreck to remain politely silent.

>>36849736
You just strawmanned me. Splendid.
0/10
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>>36849810
Smart men those blacks and browns.
When do you think the replacement program will start pushing marriage?
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>>36849728
>equality
Where are your draft papers then? Your automatic loss of your childs custody unless your husband acts full retard? Your suicide rate?
Ah, I forgot its only "equal" when it is convenient and advantageous for the vagina.
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>>36849811
>Please try to appear coherent and argue evident facts rather than poorly construed personal assumptions.
Please elaborate the problem you've got with my postings besides you being conceited trash. I've already justified my assumptions while the other poster hasn't.
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>Don't want to be trapped by a roastie who's hit the wall
>But I've also fallen for the mommy gf meme and want an older woman to take care of me
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>>36849831

They won't, they're actively discouraging it. The government doesn't want families, it wants dependents. Keeping men out of the house and away from the children is the best way to achieve that because single mothers are the shittiest parents around and it gives the state the ability to mold the kids however they want and good little voters to vote away their rights.
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>>36849708
this is logistically impossible. Black men are 6 percent of the population. A hefty part of that population is in jail. the vast majority prefer black women. there are not enough black and brown men to get with all the white women. the real growing population is whites and asians.
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>>36849811
>strawmanned me
What? How the fuck did I supposedly do that? I didn't even address any argument you made in that post.
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>>36849785
And I didn't even need one, your crying fit started just by itself. Funny how that works, eh?
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>>36846647
It's not that people are "less into" sex. Look at what the economic conditions were like for those generations. You had the Great Depression, which lead to a rebuilding after World War II ended. Then you had Boomers who inherited everything without having to work for it. They never had to care about anything but their own good time. Gen X inherited an economy that was still riding high and only beginning to trend downward. That trend is continuing downward for Millenials, although not as bad as the Great Depression was and there are still echoes of the Boomer's self-absorbed and superficial societal shift. The next generation is going to be even lower at the rate we're going.
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there is some satisfaction to be obtained watching women on social media in their 30s suddenly realize the entire game has changed. So many of them never stopped to think what would happen when no one wants to treat them different due to pussy. Almost feel sorry for them. Must be weird to have that flip occur. One year you can do no wrong. Few years later and all of a sudden you are being treated like a common man. The horror.
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>>36849912

Hispanics are 20% of the population, and more because of illegals. How many white men do you think are partnerless? I'd say somewhere between 20-30%. And add on top of that blacks and Asians.
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>>36849853
There are problems for both sides concerning equality but woman are currently worse of.

I also forsee you choke on a bbc and die when you try to change your KHV status.
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>>36849954
>The next generation is going to be even lower at the rate we're going.

No, tinder and the internet is making people hook up at far higher rates. These studies are lies made to make you think everything is normal.
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>>36849930
>And I didn't even need one,
Cute. You don't have an argument and now you try to hide that fact by stating you don't need one. You lost, honey.
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>>36849982
Tinder and the internet is only making it easier for Chad to do what he was already doing anyway. The only difference is that now he doesn't have to go to a bar or a club first. It's not making sex more available for all men.
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>>36849975
So worried about my purity you are, are you that much interested in taking it? I'll take it as a compliment.
And if you are trying to argue that young western women are not catered to and have their asses wiped at every turn you are seriously delusional and beyond help.
But as the thread reminds you, you'll know at 35.
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>>36850025

Yeah, but the point is that more women are having sex with Chad than at any time before in history and that studies like this are skewed and nonsense.

You actually think for one second that the average woman in one lifetime only has 8 partners? Total fake bullshit.
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>>36850058
>I'll take it as a compliment.
Do that. I bet you don't get many compliments.

>But as the thread reminds you, you'll know at 35.
Same goes for you. Think about this thread when you reach your wizard status
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>>36843517
>tfw basically have had an extremely fucked up impossible IRL fetish since I was for
>I've always only masturbated to it, as a consequence I have never fantasized or cared about sex
>I am still attracted by cute girls' physical appearance but not obsessively like you guys since I am basically asexual, so I cannot be easily manipulated by them
>I do sometimes long for romantic companionship, but I don't give a shit about sex

It's a weird feel
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>>36849235
Women got alcohol banned in the 20s... you're vastly underestimating the power of the cunt.
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>>36848949

>Is there someone going around telling women that everything will be okay if they just whore around for 20 years and then finally try to find a decent guy?
Yes, (((feminists))) have been telling women to do exactly that for decades and we are witnessing the results.
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>>36850107
Males do not tend to, but you wouldn't know or care. But since pussy withholding threats are all that you have left to fall back, hold tight to them by all means.
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>>36844449
Because women are the biggest hypocrites on the planet
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To all the people saying STEM is hostile towards women:

I work in an elementary school where we have a STEM club for girls. No such club exists for the boys.
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>>36850190
And seeing the results that gave I would sure like to see them try again.
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>>36850254

Wrong. There are STEM clubs for boys, just no white boys allowed. Black and brown boys only. Society wants white boys to fail and die.
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>>36850227
>Males do not tend to,
well then be happy about this one. you defined it for yourself after all

>hold tight to them by all means
hold tight to your brain cells by all means, you don't seem to have a lot of them
also lern how to use arguments in a discussion
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>>36850316
They honestly deserve it for being such pussies.
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>>36850343
Wow personal attacks, the very first resort of the well informed. Yeah bet you could teach us such a a lot about arguments in a discussion.
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>>36848725
That's not the case at all lad, you're talking out your arse
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>>36850254

It's because boys don't need the lure of a social environment and rewards to be interested in STEM. Females are a meme gender.
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>>36846647
>well past 60 partners, stopped counting
>see this chart
you are like baby, watch this
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>>36850254
I had the same
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Guy that works at elementary:

Also, this isn't done my teachers. The district hired specialists to come from outside and do this stem club. This costs quite a bit of money.
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>>36850579
I had the same and tried to join because it might have been fun then I got told to fuck off
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>>36848134

Women don't take STEM degrees because of their personality. There's nothing stopping a woman on any kind of societal level from enrolling in a STEM field.

Women are more agreeable & people oriented
Men are more conscientious & thing oriented
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>>36843739
We have sex dolls and sex toys like flesh lights and onaholes
I'll be blunt, between that and the mountain of porn and woman replacements that exist now, if all that doesn't free you from the thirst a yesbot with a pussy won't either.
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>>36843517
>thinks this is anything new
>uses random clickbait posts and articles as a measure of men
>he fell for the beta meme

Let me drop you some knowledge:
In terms of dating and getting married guys always start later but fall off much earlier as well. 21~32 is the most active window of dating/marring and that hasn't changed in the last 50 years. But women seeking a guy? 18~47. Many are hitting menopause and still haven't found love but keep looking, where guys either find it or pack it up before they even hit middle age. So men have always been less desperate by majority, you are either just a kid learning this is a very weak and sheltered fag that believes everything /pol/ tells you.
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>>36850190
You should watch a documentary about prohibition era. It wasn't "women" alone that got alcohol banned. Yes, they did a lot of campaigning for it to happen and marched about it, but those demonstrations by women were backed up by certain facts like "literally 75% of our entire town is drunk all throughout the day, every single day of the week, drunk at work, and drunk at home"

To understand why alcohol was banned you need to understand how ridiculously prevalent alcoholism was in those days. It was rotting entire towns and villages from the inside by crippling upwards of 80% of the work force.
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>>36843517
no?

it's women being liars as usal. The part they left out of the quote is "And I can't... Because no man is good enough for me".

I mean go and look at the census statistics. Regardless of what kind of poetic justice you wish existed, men still outnumber women until the age range of 40 and up.

They're certainly not all taken, and they're not all violent psychotic rapists or anything like that (not that violent guys even have problems getting gfs). What is it then?
Well if you look deeper you're going to see that she refuses to date blue collar guys, tradesmen, divorced guys with kids, fat guys, skinny guys, and the list goes on and on and she continues aging closer to death because this unchecked hypergamous selection system we're living under and completely fucked up her brain.

You are going to end up alone and so is she, and you will both complain about it.
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>>36844635
(you) know exactly where you are posting this, don't you?
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>>36850070
agreed, Chad know can do his thing easily with a lot of women, and we usually put Chad as one person but college and bars are full of them, nowadays girls can go above 20 partners in a month or more
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>>36851050

But my complaints about dying alone are valid. Hers aren't because she has tons of choices, she just thinks she is too good for any of them.
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>>36849244

I knew men were better than women in every way, but that's over .5SD difference between averages and way more on the + than I thought. How much longer are we going to prop these role playing pieces of shit up? At the least they shouldn't be allowed to vote or drive.
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>>36846647
Reminder that the number 8 is projected.
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>>36851050
Best example of this is the old gag of:
>Comedy: Ugly/beastly guy gets the hot girl, she loves her trollish man
>Comedy: Ugly/beastly woman gets guy, he hates it and wants to get away from her but can't/won't

To the ignorant they view it as just a double standard when the bigger point miss is the large parody of how dating and the control in it works.
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>>36849542
lol you got no clue what you're talking about
most whites have all been peasants, only a few small minority of upper crust even did well. blaming immigrants and rewriting history to sound better than it was.
you can't resurrect something that didn't exist and it's pretty clear even if you got your way you wouldn't know what to do with it.
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>>36847924

I read an article about a nurse bitching about how it's a female dominated field so women should be paid more and her panties were all in a bunch because men made more on average. She obviously didn't bother to check education or overtime because men worked more hours and were more likely to get their doctorate degree. How do women figure an LPN should get paid more than an anesthetist? Fuck it, let's sum the money earned by the sexes, women earn more so if we really want it to be equal men should be getting paid about 8 times more than the women. I guess they wouldn't be so into wage equality if it were distributed fairly based on sex instead of work or education.
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>>36851379
Dude, it's a random whore, who cares?
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>>36844635
That's the point, and you proved it well.
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>>36851717
Most people in the past lived horrid lives with no love, not even a childhood. So many died of disease. People glorify the past, but it was just as bleak as the future looks now.
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>>36847924

https://youtu.be/Je9YGnwmv_k?t=7m25s

Start at 7:25
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>>36846647
This number is bought down by the many, many, many virgin neets.
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>>36847924
Who cares? They should make 0%.
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>>36851050

These bitter neckbeard collages always crack me up, but I think my favorite part of this one is that anyone rich enough to have 800k just has it sitting in a checking account being eaten away by inflation
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>>36852231
what always makes me laugh is people who don't have that kind of money complain about inflation while rich people have it hidden away in an offshore bank account not caring about inflation as long as they can dodge taxes
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>>36844932
>sexbot for socializing
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>>36852299
rich people can afford to pay more intelligent people a miniscule cut to manage and grow their money while they fuck off

Kurt Vonnegut called it "more efficient means of slurping"
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>>36848187

knowledge tends to do that.
In the Baby Boomers days they didn't understand shit of STDs or how making a baby actually work (stupid rumors like "having sex in a hot tub will keep you from getting pregnant" were rampant and believed) Also that market was just introduced to abundant birth control and condoms, that was new to them. Come the 90s when kids are educated en masses about how sex works, what it does and what bad can come from it you are going to have smarter kids that won't be as incline to just slut it up because they don't want an STD for life or be "that girl" who was pregnant at 15. Also with all the knowledge of how 'the game' work with sex and life it's very easy now to be single and not hate yourself for it.
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>>36848021
Why don't you look at the fields they choose, retard feminist.

Women choose fields like Education and Women's Studies whereas men choose fields like Dangerous Offshore Oil Rig Engineering and Advanced Boring Mathematical Software Design.

Guess which fucking fields pay more?

Guess which gender, male or female, chooses to work overtime hours rather than be with their family and children more often, on average?

Guess which gender takes maternity leave (this is a hard 1, you will never guess it!!!)?

Guess which gender works in dangerous fields where physical strength and hard manual labor are required, and the risk of death is high? Guess what you have to do to convince people to work those types of jobs [HINT: PAY THEM MORE MONEY]

The "wage gap" is entirely (100%) down to the CHOICES THE PEOPLE MAKE.
If you think that the "wage gap" should be "closed" then you are saying that women should make the same amount of money as men for doing less valuable, less dangerous, and less overall work than men, and that is FUCKING SEXIST.

GENDERS SHOULD BE PAID EQUALLY FOR EQUAL WORK AND IF YOU SAY ANYTHING ELSE YOU ARE A FUCKING SEXIST.
>>
If you're thinking about responding to my posts regarding oft cited feminist statistics on women in work and education please read them in the context and understand I was btfoing a dumb roastie with them. You do not need to refute them as they are rhetorical and sardonic. Tia thanks in anime.
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>>36851029
They'll say the same about declining birth rates and men not being productive because they're at home fucking their robot all day.
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>>36844635
>loosers
Said the roastie.
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>>36853296
...yes but that won't be TRUE at all so there is no worry...
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>>36843517

Let me tell you a story.

Last year, on valentines day, we had a temp at work.
A cute little Italian girl. Sweet as sugar.
She was complaining about how this year there wasn't anyone buying her flowers, it was her first year like this.

She made sure every man heard it.

When she told us, me and a group of other working class men (with me being the only white one there, I'll add - and this is important), we all just stood there silent. Maybe a nod or two just to acknowledge she was there and said something.

But, not a single one of us was going to take the bait.

Right up until one guy. An Indian lad, look her dead in the eye and said in a monotonous voice "I don't care". He then walked away.

Holy shit. Even the foreigners are learning that, at least in britian, you don't hit on women.
Even they know better.

Holy shit, even Indians with their reputation for creepy behaviour, shutting that shit down.
Even black guys.

The whole fucking point in them importing all the foreigners was because they deterred all the men here from trying anything, and now even the foreigners are saying "naaah...".

I shit you not, things are changing, OP. You're right.
Men got smart. Getting smart.

No one took that bait.
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>>36844932
>>36844635
You're in for a treat when you find out the exact opposite is going to happen.

All the guys who wanted to settle down and have kids will move onto sexbots.

All the rapists and guys who just want sex will be the only ones on the dating scene.
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>>36853977
Finally.
All me exs hated me and all the girls I talk to hate me...Everyone hates me honestly.
So im glad men are just collecting paper stacks.
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>>36853977
that was beautiful, really beautiful. Finally our brothers are learning.
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>>36853977
>>36854254
>>36854385

>thinks this is new
35 and I can tell you that isn't anything special you underage kiddes and it just shows how out of touch you are irl (but it does sound like you are waking up)
first of all, no shit the Indian guy isn't interested in an Italian girl. Depending on his background he might be set up with a wife to be already or just wants an Indian girl too, so no shit he ain't interested.
Also most your crew likely has/have had girls in their life, most guys in their 20's wake up and are not on their knees panting for a bone.

On one hand I'm happy you faggots are waking up and understanding guys aren't as thirsty as you on the other hand I'm annoyed as fuck you guys are this sheltered/stupid to think girls magically get worship because they are in the room. That's high school level bullshit.
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>>36854721
>That's high school level bullshit.
>where do you think we are?.jpeg
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>>36846647
I wonder what stats for Gen Z would look like, since they're probably going to be filled with even more virgin beta NEETs
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>>36854765
in theory it'll even out, most of this drop has been the effect of what >>36852405 shared where there was a time people were much less educated and were just given antibaby means so they had sex in higher volume for it. I feel thinks will just even out back to GG/SG and 3 is the the "average"
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>>36854835
Also no fault divorce happen which made a huge spike in the late 70s of divorces that went back down after it was enforced.
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>>36850153
>>tfw basically have had an extremely fucked up impossible IRL fetish since I was for

Please tell us what this fetish is. You are anonymous, anyway.
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>>36850896
You are completely right about this, men giving up is a major issue.

Its hardly a secret either, women certainly know it. Talk to anyone running dating events, after 35+ its all about trying to get a big enough minority of men to attend that there won't be a riot and women wanting their money back.

Whatever you put it down to, women want men a lot more than men want women, and being single is a far greater problem for them than it is for men. And then just wait until they start getting married (and not married), that shit is just brutal.

But it just doesn't seem like that when you are 20 and your balls are making the calls. At least that kind of thing fades over time.
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>>36855167
It should make me happy but it just makes me even sadder. I'm about to turn 30 and would like a wife, just not enough to settle for bottom of the barrel garbage, which is 99.999% of women. How hard is it to be virgin and not be fat? That's really about it as far as my standards go. They couldn't get any lower yet women can't even do this much.

They dug their own grave expecting captain save-a-hoe to be there to save them. I hope getting fucked in the ass by chad and blowing the football was worth it because I sure as fuck aint' happy with his outcome. My life has gotten better with every year I get older and I'm glad that I'm not some stupid cunt, I would be even happier if I had a stupid cunt to call my own though. Females are aware that this is how we think but they decide the best plan of action is to argue that being a fat slut is actually a good thing instead of just not being fat sluts.
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>>36855434
Pendulums swinging back it seems lad but fuck me why can't they JUST LEARN it's infuriating
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>>36855167
The other thing here is that if you know women getting to that kind of age, and this has happened with people I've known since we were 15 or 16, they suddenly start dating men in their 50s and even 60s.

This is far more bizarre to see IRL than it sounds on paper. They how much the same sense of what they are attracted to as anyone else does. And I'm not talking about millionaires or film stars either.

Thats how limited their choices are and how much they don't want to be alone.
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>>36851801
I wonder how many intellectuals avoid talking about stuff because of the fear of political backlash with persecution.
I really am not sure if I agree with his assessment of people shoot for enough to sustain and not get more. It really just seems to draw back to the old 17th century thinking that if people don't struggle to make enough to survive and the inevitable failure mass failure of a lot to even secure that will devalue currency and make people leave the labor force. It's sort of like when you see rich people start ranting they're a higher social class because they have money because it's more about what they don't have to do rather than what they can do with it, clearly since they have so much of it there isn't a whole lot they can actually do with it in reality. There are just as many working poor that work like the rich he was talking about they just have a better market willing to pay for services.
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>>36855434
Its not really their fault, try a bit of empathy anon.
Women bait and switch each other the whole time, its how they bully and it never stops.

Blowing Chad was cool, fucking the football team was cool...Stacy, why on earth aren't you married? How tragic. Talk later, got to go to church with my two beautiful children. Thats what we do now Stacy.

Women are cruel to each other in ways so horrible that men can't understand. Robots make get a bit of perspective here if they realised that even if they are mocking the fat neckbeard, they are pulling those punches the whole time.
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>>36852385
That's really good I been wondering if there was a term for that when I think it over sometimes, wondered that for quite a while now.
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>>36855762
Wow that IS fucking brutal.
>>
The good thing about being a robot is that your balls calm down after you hit your 30s. Maybe you didn't get laid in your 20s but at least you don't have to pay child support like a lot of dudes are doing. Blessing in disguise.
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>>36849584
>Because I just can't figure out how
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>>36844504

There is no independent female they all leach of men or are promoted to success because of male horniness and feminism. Kim Kardashian and all these insta hoes wouldn't be millionaires.
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>>36848134
>Expecting them to actually play life on hard mode.
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