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XLVII

1. Use a name in the namefield

2. Share your problemes, ask questions.

3. Be listened to, cared for.

4. Depending on time available and the number of people in the thread, I may let others answer you, if I have nothing else to add, though if you really want my opinion, you can always ask for it; keep in mind I sometimes miss posts; I can also be quite late if the thread is popular.
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Yay my psychiatric doctor husbando is here! <3
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>>36620453

I don't give prescriptions, however, but I am here. This is my animu form.
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>>36620487
tell me about the kinds of problems people who enter these threads have
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>>36620516

Often mentioned:

- depression/anxiety
- lack of motivation
- heartbreak

Sometimes mentioned:

- seeing things/hearing things
- PTSD-like things

Rarely mentioned:

- antisocial behaviour
- alters
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How can I stop having homosexual thoughts?
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>>36620829

If you're a homosexual or bisexual thought, you won't be able to repress such thoughts, nor should you try. Some things you don't want to succeed at.

Why do you want to stop having such thoughts?
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>>36620885
I don't want to be gay at all
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>>36620611
people are too anxious to answer these kind of posts
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>>36620896
What are you afraid to suck a little dick? Are you some kinda faggot?
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>>36620896
You're out of luck there, then. There's no real way to stop being gay and trying to repress it will just leave you miserable.
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>>36620925
Shutup or I'll suck YOUR dick, fag
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Well, this thread is off to a shitty start. :/
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>>36620896

Well, you are. Why don't you want to be homosexual?
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>>36620902

I'm not. I'll answer anything.

>>36620925
>What are you afraid to suck a little dick?

Is that a proposition?

>>36620935

This.

>>36620971

It usually starts worse. Most threads in the past ten versions started with being told to kill myself, so that's quite OK in comparison.

Hello.
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How can I help my friend to stop being a furry?
he's obsessed aboout it to the point it's actually harming him. He talks less and less to everyone.

Don't try to question me why should I try to stop him, just give me some advice to do it if you can.
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>>36620323
Hey Nick how are you today? Doing ok?
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>>36621013

Find out the source of his obsession. If it goes to that level, there's likely something else to figure out.

What are his problems, if you know?
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>>36621029

No, I'm half out of my mind. I had some short interaction with LO, so now I'm all messed up. Day had tense moments too.

I've read your e-mail and appreciated it, but haven't responded yet.
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>>36621001

Heh. Did you get my email? :D

>>36621013

Stuff like furries and bronies etc is usually a defense mechanism against building meaningful human connections. As your friend's a furry, I'm already guessing he's bullied a lot, but what are other difficulties he has?
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>>36621048
LO? Also glad you read
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>>36620976
It's just something I don't want to be, like when you're fat but want to change it by exercising. I hate it and want to get rid of it
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>>36621079

why do you hate being gay?
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I'm putting this together as I type so I'm sorry if it ends up being long

At an early age I was diagnosed with ADHD which, until recently I thought I had; focus issues, sudden onset of mood/emotion, issues with aggression, etc. I took a high dose of concerta xr throughout middle school/high school, never had issues.

I even stopped taking my meds I'm uni because I didn't like the side effects and still had no problems with focus

I'm not sure when this all started happening (let's say roughly month or two ago) but it feels like my ADHD symptoms kicked it into hyperdrive
I can hardly focus most of the time, major brain fog, been having intense mood swings, and it's even taking a toll on communication (lately I've been having issues with studdering, losing words). I have never had any issues with talking, and the mood swings are worse than they've ever been. What the fuck is happening to me? Could I have been misdiagnosed? Is this something entirely different that just hasn't surfaced until now? I don't even feel like myself anymore
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>>36621105
It's something I don't want to be. It's annoying trying to find other gay people, most are just looking for sex, and there aren't that many around anyway, it's just shitty
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>>36621063
>Heh. Did you get my email? :D

The last one I got was the good night one. If you sent another after that, I didn't receive it.
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>>36621063
>Stuff like furries and bronies etc is usually a defense mechanism against building meaningful human connections. As your friend's a furry, I'm already guessing he's bullied a lot
That seems to be true from my experience too. Lot of people who got mistreated develop very strong bonds towards animals also. Sure, they mostly don't want to become one, but I think it's on the same spectrum.
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>>36621064
>LO? Also glad you read

Loved One. LO and behold.

>>36621079

Do you consider yourself mostly heterosexual with some homo temptations?
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>>36621033
>>36621063

Crap, you guessed he's a brony too.
He no longer can 'just' enjoy things like videogames or that shit, as he always end up searching for fetish fanarts of it's characters.
He has done that even with his childhood heroes, making he feel like shit. He takes that shit way too seriously.
Also, he generally doesn't act as a man his age at all. He doesn't know how to normally interact with people (and yes, i know im on rk9, but he goes further).
He's not autistic, he just doesn't know what the fuck to do.
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Hey Nick.
I'm the swiss guy again.
Want to continue our conversation?
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>>36621124

Describe your mood swings and tell me if anything triggers them.
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>>36621169
>Do you consider yourself mostly heterosexual with some homo temptations?

I present myself as heterosexual, but I'm actually just gay
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>>36621169
Oh. You expecting tha, or?
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Stacey said my long dick makes her anxious
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>>36621159

yah, I phrased it wrong. i was just expecting a response email when you said you'd write today

>>36621164
>>36621182

Guys like that are the amplified version of teenage girls having crushes on justin bieber and edward cullen and shit - instead of putting yourself out there and risking getting your heart broken, you retreat into a fantasy land. with bronies and furries the detachment from the world is even more pronounced, because they can't even imagine getting it on with something even vaguely humanlike.

>sources: my ass, but i think it makes sense
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>>36621187

Of course.

>>36621193

Embrace your sexuality, you'll have no other.

>>36621225

I'm sorry?

>>36621243

It's probably true.

>>36621256

True, my bad. Right on it.
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>>36621164
>Lot of people who got mistreated develop very strong bonds towards animals also. Sure, they mostly don't want to become one, but I think it's on the same spectrum.
I think it might just be replacing human interaction with something easier. Animals don't take half the effort people do and they're not at all as needy. Don't need to act like you're interested in them either to not put their panties in a twist. Can just be yourself.
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>>36621256
>Guys like that are the amplified version of teenage girls having crushes on justin bieber and edward cullen and shit
Yeah. I would say that guys who are obsessed with hentai are the equivalent to women who are obsessed with justin bieber. I knew one guy like that from high school, he actually said "Hentai is better, real women smell and hate me". There was no reasoning with him though, he grew out of it on his own, I think. Then again he did have some interest in human relationships.
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>>36621190
I can't really think of anything that specifically sets it off aside from gender dysphoria but that's a whole 'nother thing

But I bounce from feeling amazing, happy, alert etc to feeling depression to the point of thoughts of suicide. I can be on top of the world and one small inconvenience can put me right back in the gutter, where I stay until for seemingly no reason I feel on top of the world again
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Hi. How is everyone

>>36621143
Trust me when I say I've felt the exactly same way as you, and in the exact same position. If by saying "they're all looking for sex" you mean on Grindr, stop using it, you're right in how that's all they do on that app. Tinder is slightly better as its more of a "dating" app, but it's still not great. Don't try and become straight, it's impossible. I'm sorry but all that can really be done is try and socialise more, and hope to find another gay guy who you get along with. Gay bars actually aren't too bad for that.
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>>36621296
Were you expecting LO to contact you?
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>>36621309
True. I think disappointment and underlying trust issues are to blame here. What I think people like that need is someone they can trust. It shows that there are people for them.
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>>36621354

Consider the following:


https://www.helpguide.org/articles/personality-disorders/borderline-personality-disorder.htm
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>>36621374

Hello Ethan.

I'm sure that's the best advice anon is ever going to get on this issue.
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>>36621386

No.

The way she keeps it to a minimum because it hurts her just annihilates me.
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>>36621482
Do you want to talk about it? Or just not here?
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Saw psych and doctor today. Psych said, based on the profile she summarized out of my answers to her questions, that I suffer from high levels of paranoia and OCD. Doctor said I might have autism and wrote me new evaluation, didn't diagnose me for now but referred me to psychiatrist.
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>>36621374
Same position? You gay too?

I did mean grindr actually, so thanks for the advice on that, but like I said, there aren't many gay people where I live, so I'm losing hope in just finding someone
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>>36621523

Hookup apps always give you a distorted view of the dating market. I've never felt more disgusted and worthless than back when I was using Tinder. It's not some moralfag bullshit, that stuff really corrupts you from the inside.
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>>36621453
The only thing is ive never had issues with abandonment. If anything, I prefer to be alone.
I have considered the possibility of a personality disorder though
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>>36621518

Not really. Not now. There's nothing much to say, just tears to shed.
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>>36621473
Hi. How was your day today?

And you gave him decent advice yourself. He shouldn't take it as fact though, I might have just had different experiences to him
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>>36621425
>I think disappointment and underlying trust issues are to blame here
Could be, yeah, unless there's some disorder causing it.
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>>36621521

>autism

Doctor memes.

Good you went. Did you mention schizoid?
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>>36620323
How do i get over the fear of touching females in sexual way?
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>>36621579
I'll stop using them then
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>>36621296
Ok, here's a short summary of my problems.

>One-sided conversations with me talking about an interesting subject or the other person talking about something and problems with the reciprocal flow. Don't think about/notice any subtle non-verbal information from another person. Problems with knowing what is 'normal' and what isn't. Applying the social norm. No eye contact. Altogether punctual language with no usage of tone, pitch. Don't talk very often (only with close friends and parents). Leading to me not having any friends. Don't really have a desire for them.

>Odd things like: Extreme repulsion by certain sensations like touch of strangers, bright lights, loud noises and certain tastes/smells. (Only some of them, not all) Daily routine, which I get upset when it's interrupted or changed. Don't feel emptions for 99% of the time (not meaning I don't have any) and very intense emotions 1%. My body language seems to be misleading in a lot of cases. I seem rude because I don't understand how the other person is feeling... etc.

I could go on but I think you get the idea.
Where should I go for getting checked out in switzerland? Where should I go when I seek a diagnosis for a certain disorder? What do you think I have?
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>>36621523
Yeah I am, unfortunately, short of moving , you can't really fix that. Like I said, just get out there, and maybe you'll meet someone
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>>36621651
>What do you think I have?
Something on the autistic spectrum. The extreme repulsion from physical stimulation like loud noises combined with inability to understand social cues is a pretty dead give-away.
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>>36621683
e-email?
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>>36621602
Ok I'll leave it alone
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>>36621651
>Where should I go when I seek a diagnosis for a certain disorder? What do you think I have?
I know it's a minor thing, but you shouldn't go out seeking a diagnosis for a certain disorder. You seem hellbent on being sick, which you might be, but you seem very sure of it. And your description sounds spot on, maybe even to o spot on.

What do YOU think you have?
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>>36621776
Sorry I'd really rather not share it here
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>>36621606
Either way, it's good to talk about it with a professional. And other than that, being there for the person is good enough. Sometimes that one person who doesn't give up on them is the only link they have to "real" people.
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>>36621595
>If anything, I prefer to be alone.

To avoid being abandoned? Or because you don't need others?
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>>36621604

Day was OK for the most part. No major attack, just cried in the staff room when no one was around. Mostly managed to hide my tears when someone did come in.
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>>36621616
>How do i get over the fear of touching females in sexual way?

What scares you exactly?

Very interested in your question.
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>>36621925
Wow, I'm so sorry. What do you mean "mostly"? Did they notice? Do any of your coworkers know about the state your in?

I had a bad day today at work as well, started freaking out again
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>>36621895
>Either way, it's good to talk about it with a professional.
What can a professional offer that introspection can't? I'm wondering this for myself.
>Sometimes that one person who doesn't give up on them is the only link they have to "real" people.
You're right. Most people just won't stick around for long unless the individual puts in more effort than they're comfortable with, or capable of.
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>>36621651

You're quite unique to me because you're the only anon in my own country.

You should look up schizoid. I'm not expert on it, but it's worth checking.

http://www.pdchat.co.uk/psychtests/spd/schizoid.php
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Help. Struggling. Help. Head is all muddly. Battled bloody
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>>36621840
I am not sure, but the probability is rather high that I have at least some condition because I've been sent to a psychologist before when I was younger. All because of my abnormal behavior and the problems I described above. My parents however cancelled all appointments and made sure that I would not be diagnosed with any mental illness.

I had written down all my problems and compared to mental conditions using multiple sources. I have therefore reduced the possible conditions and I have the two most likely conditions figured out. They are >>36621708
and schizoid personality disorder. But I can rule schizoid... out because I was like this since childhood and personality disorders develop in later life. This only left me with previously mentioned disorder.
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>>36621937
>What scares you exactly?
It's very hard to explain. I guess the idea of human closeness frightens me out. It's like i could touch on non-erogenous areas but kissing situation would enable fight or flight situation.
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>>36621980

I've told a few. Only one knows about my suspicions of C-PTSD, the others just witness me being as pensive as if I was on death row. Some may have heard me hurling in the restroom, but I don't know who it was. They'd probably think I'm making myself puke. I never eat during the day, so I have this anorexic reputation.

I also got upset and slammed a door. They probably noticed that. They were in the room.
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>>36621937

I'm female as well, and I don't want to be nicknamed "lesby".

>inb4 tits or gtfo
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>>36621898
I don't have a fear of abandonment whatsoever

I guess I prefer to be alone because people just get in the way
I mean I don't harbor negative feelings to anyone I don't mean it like that, it's just that I really don't like in person interactions with people, it's too much work.
I can't really ever get out what I wanna say if I make eye contact, I'm always paranoid Ill say something dumb or embarrassing, stuff like that
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>>36621982
>What can a professional offer that introspection can't? I'm wondering this for myself.
Sometimes introspection is very difficult to do right. You think you're doing it, but you're really not. It's very hard to do it in your own with a change of perspective.

>Most people just won't stick around for long unless the individual puts in more effort than they're comfortable with, or capable of.
True, but I think it's about the only way for the person to recover. Either that or some major life change (usually for the worse) that makes them snap out of it, but for a price.
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>>36621986
Yeah but doesn't schizoid develop in later life?
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>>36621982
>What can a professional offer that introspection can't? I'm wondering this for myself.

A perspective that isn't yours, and trust me, that is sorely, sorely needed. Introspection will not offer you the knowledge we have gained on psychological conditions over the centuries.
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>>36622059
>I'm female as well, and I don't want to be nicknamed "lesby".
>>inb4 tits or gtfo
that's not me.
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>>36622057
Do you enjoy the job? What do the students think of you? Are you friendly with your coworkers?

Sorry for firing off questions, I just think it's more efficient
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A feeling in my heart is starting to grow, i have noticed that the world is just, the whole system we are in is pure shit and typical shit like that, but that is making me feel bad.

Well, not just that, or maybe that's a shell to hide myself from what really makes me feel bad.
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>>36622011

Sounds like we're having an emergency.

What's going on?
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>>36622020
I'm not saying it doesn't have to be true, but sometimes it's very hard to really pinpoint what you have when it's just you looking at yourself.

I've been on /r9k/ for ... god ... 8 years? During that time I thought I had so many mental illnesses. I am a rather fucked up individual, but many of these were just me seeing stuff that wasn't there, because some of these diagnoses are very simple to make and while this will sound strange, they do in a way make you feel like you are less responsible for things you are not content with. It gives you a certain peace. For me, most of these were misdiagnoses.

Not saying that it has to be that way for you, but don't take self-diagnoses too seriously. Seek out perspective, always. Just like not being able to lick your elbow, I believe people are mostly not capable of judging their own mental state accurately.
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>>36622020
>because I was like this since childhood and personality disorders develop in later life.

That's not true, though. Many personality disorders are in fact people becoming emotionally and mentally arrested at a certain level between 0 and 6 years old. Not sure where you found that idea, but you may be thinking of schizophrenia, which develops later in life, around 18 and above. Personality disorders are not like schizophrenia.
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>>36622038

Have you been abused sexually?
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>>36622152
I'm interested. What self-diagnoses have you made in your time in this shithole?
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>>36622059
>>36622090

And this is why we need trips. If anyone wants to mess with you they only need to do this.
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>>36622011
What's happening, Facet?
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>>36622173
>Have you been abused sexually?
Not as i remember. I guess i've never knew how to approach girls and that grew out of proportions.
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>>36622066
>It's very hard to do it in your own with a change of perspective.

This. You need someone who can challenge your vision and offer you a new perspective.
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>>36622069
>Yeah but doesn't schizoid develop in later life?

The test I gave you says "usually in early adulthood", but that doesn't exclude happening earlier. I experienced derealisation at 10, and wouldn't know what it was for 24 years afterwards. No adult could help me, nobody believed how I felt and I couldn't explain.
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>>36622181
Autism, ASPD, schizophrenia, depression, anxiety, social phobia, psychosis, schizoid.

These are the major ones I can remember, although I did find out some interesting things too, for example that I have synesthesia which I would have probably never known had I not read about it here. But still, I try to assume as little as possible about my mental state. I am the kind of person who can talk himself into many things and when I told myself often enough that I have a problem I actually started showing the symptoms.I guess hypochondria should have been up there, right?
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>>36622094
>Do you enjoy the job?

Yes, the only reason why I don't are external to the job itself.

>What do the students think of you?

I was always a favourite. This year I'm a bit undone. Students generally really like me. I'm a demanding teacher, but I'm never mean, and I always understand everyone. I also make the effort. And I'm funny.

>Are you friendly with your coworkers?

Almost everyone likes me, yes. I'm easy to get along with, I always help when I can. I listen to everyone, and most will notice that and start telling me personal things, given the chance.
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>>36622152
I've taken care of that. Self-fulfilling prophecies are in fact dangerous. That's why my analysis is not just based on my own experience but mainly on notes that my teachers took about me when I was in school and reports from my parents because I asked them a lot of questions about me. Also I gather as much data from objective facts of my past like: "I made people upset a lot of the time when I talk honestly to them without realizing until they cry" Rather than: "I often felt dizzy when in large crowds of people" Although both might be correct, I can only take the first one as objective truth. That's what my self-evaluation is based on. I've spent a lot of time (2 years) on this while simultaneously reading a lot about philosophy, which certainly helped me making this possible. I think I have the truth, but I can't be sure about that. So where should I go now? Now that it's complete, I want to get serious and figure out who/how I am. THis knowledge can help me design a much more comfortable life.
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>>36622098
>maybe that's a shell to hide myself from what really makes me feel bad.

Dig there. Tell me what you find.
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>>36622152
>Just like not being able to lick your elbow
Just out of interest, has anyone tried to do it upon reading this sentence?
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>>36621614
Nope, merely talked about experiences. He didn't diagnose me, thankfully. I see it as a possibility that I do have autism, but based on my knowledge of the condition, I doubt it. His "official" actions was to prescribe me new medicine, and raise my case to a higher instance with a psychiatrist.
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>>36622329
Better answers than I thought I would get (no offense). I'm glad you have a job you enjoy.

As for the coworkers you've told, have they offered you any support? Did they have a good reaction to it?
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>>36622278
>nobody believed how I felt and I couldn't explain.
Ahh, man, I know that feel. I went through this same shit, but four years later than you. Really frustrating trying to explain something as obscure as that to doctors who won't listen or even really try to understand.

>>36622308
>I guess hypochondria should have been up there, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_students%27_disease
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>>36622195
>Not as i remember.

What do you remember?
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>>36622333
>So where should I go now?
Mental health specialist for sure. You can't lose much other than some time and money. You can get many useful insights. About the actual advice, I think you're better off asking Nick, since he's also Swiss.

>THis knowledge can help me design a much more comfortable life.
Just one more thing, don't shy away from help. You will need it even if you think you won't.
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>>36622410
>What do you remember?
Not sure what do you mean by it.
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Well, this may be my chance to get help without getting help irl, thing which i will never do because i can't trust people.

Well, here are some things listed i guess

There are so many things happening in my head. I'm currently a freshman in university, I'm in love with somebody (though it may be obssession), I talk to her a lot and miss her a lot (she's living in another city, but we see eachother every weekend) I'm not jealousy of other men, I'm actually secure about our relationship. I think the root of the relationship problems is nothing else but me.

One of the things i can't stand is my mother and my father, my father pretty much because he's shit and my mother because she's a whore. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against her having sexual intercouses with men, i don't give a shit, it's that she currently has a relationship and gets in bed with other men/women(?) i dont know, it disgusts me a lot. I hate my whole family except for my brothers and some cousins. I mean, I kinda understand why my mother acts like that, she was privated from freedom pretty much when being with my dad, but still, I don't like that.

I hate the whole system we are in, politically and economically, in every sense, I hate it, I can see the bad thing about it, people are unhappy, and so I am.

I hate being in places with too much people and with too loud music or sounds, I stay stuck thinking about other things.

Sometimes I can be happy for a whole week, but the next week I feel shit. While in the happy week I can plan to do lots of things, but never finish them or never actually start them.

I smoke le weedo 420 xD!!! on a -almost- daily basis (5 days a week?)
And now I forgot about everything i wanted to say, and want to finish this here before I change my mind about posting this. Oh yeah that, that always happens to me when I'm about to say something about my feelings to others. I really tried to tell my gf about my issues but I just can't, i forget about everything.

Pic not relate
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>>36622355

No, because I knew that was the point of that sentence.

Let me try now. I can't. Just like I remembered.
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>>36621986
Your Recent Results = 58.3%

Based on your answers, it's highly unlikely that you have Schizoid personality disorder. ..."

My results.
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Help me please. I csan feel the tendrils rising up. I can;t see them but I know they're there. It's horrible. I'm aware but I can't fight them. Help meNick. PLSPLSPLS
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>>36622372
Despite a rather lackluster experience (who wants to learn that they might have autism?) I am feeling very good right now. My new meds and alcohol seem to blend nicely together so far, and this is a high season weekend giving me an excuse to drink for 3 days straight. Good music is blaring, I am playing a video game I have been waiting for. No one is bothering me. There's no anxiety right now or other issues occupying my mind. I wish this was how I felt all the time.
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>>36622461
This is my hash, forgot to add it, I doubt someone will try to steal my identity but who knows
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>>36622391
>As for the coworkers you've told, have they offered you any support? Did they have a good reaction to it?

Mostly yes. They're very supportive. One reached out to me, actually, two. I'm very appreciated, so I get a lot of support. I think the ones who don't reach out don't want to sound intrusive. I appear to be a very secretive person, and perhaps too intense. I probably give that vibe that everything is at stake with every breath.
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>>36622278
So Nick. Where should I go if I want a psychological analysis and possible diagnosis? Aargau, as you know. Maybe someone who is familiar with the autism spectrum but not solely specialized on that.
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So the other day I was thinking about my friends
made me really happy
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>>36622451

You said, "Not as I remember," so I thought maybe you remembered something but not "as" abuse.

Do you remember anything having to do with touch?

Did your parents hug you? Did you like it?
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>>36622535
>Mostly yes. They're very supportive. One reached out to me, actually, two

Very glad to hear it.

>I probably give that vibe that everything is at stake with every breath.

I understand why they think that
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Im clinically depressed, agoraphobic, extremely socially anxious, autism spectrum, and a KV.

Im not a autistic neckbeard robot, im a good looking, thin, tall guy, i just have the social skills of a housefly.

I have no friends and have never had a gf, even though i could easily have had all these if i wasnt socially inept.

Im in college, and i always told myself i would come out of my shell at uni but i still do the same things all day i did in my teens, which is play vidya and watch tv.

I have no hobbies outside of vidya because of depression / no motivation

Havent had a friend since like 8th grade.

feels bad man

Worst part is could easily be alpha male if wasnt /aut/
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>>36622524
Situations like these remind me how easily my ideal life could be achieved despite my issues, it would be as simple as finding the right medication that kills the obstacles in my ability to work. Gives me hope.
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>>36622576
>Do you remember anything having to do with touch?
not really, it was common in my family to be "touchy"
>Did your parents hug you? Did you like it?
I remember when pops wanted to hug me but i felt weird about it as it was uncomfortable.
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>>36622461
>Sometimes I can be happy for a whole week, but the next week I feel shit. While in the happy week I can plan to do lots of things, but never finish them or never actually start them.

Does anything trigger that?
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Hey Nick, I started monitoring my thoughts, and I realized that most of them are about hurting people. I was also with my girlfriend, and I said something that pissed her off. She talked back to me, and I remember thinking, "She challenging me." What's this all about?
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>>36622480

Try the other tests, on the left.
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>>36621651
that sounds like autism spectrum to me, all those things are well known symptoms that i and many other /aut/ people experience as well. ask your doctor about ASD.
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>>36622499

Try this: go to the bathroom splash cold water on you. Your face, your chest, etc.

Even take a shower if you want. Engage in physical sensations.

I'm here.
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>>36622618
I don't know. But it may be the enviroment where am I living, it is a little house and I lack privacy.

Also, sometimes I sit and start thinking on how fucked up everything is, maybe my main problem is that I overthink shit and make it personal, I don't really know what am I feeling
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>>36622568

Find a therapist who works under a psychiatrist. Insurance will cover 90% of the costs. It'll be 15 Swiss bucks for an hour, which isn't much.

That's all you need: go see someone who work in a team led by a psychiatrist. You can see your family doctor to recommend you such a team.
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>>36622575

That's good. When do you see them next?
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>>36622583

Do you like your parents?
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>>36622604
>I remember when pops wanted to hug me but i felt weird about it as it was uncomfortable.

Let's dig there. Why was it uncomfortable.
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>>36622784
They are all internet friends, remember?
Though it can happen that I meet some of them.
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>>36622695

It's all representative of a specific mode of engaging the world. It's like you're in a perpetual fight. You're in fight mode, all the time.
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>>36622837

OK. How far are they?
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>>36622811
>Why was it uncomfortable.
It's because being so close to the person. I mean it's acceptable for me to touch to people shoulders and hand but anything below shoulders is a big no. I guess i feel vulnerable by doing it.
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how do you decide to respond to here? I noticed sometimes you just stop responding
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>>36622875

Why did you not tell them not to touch you? (I don't accuse you of anything, it's a literal question; I've been tickled to death myself and can no longer stand tickles because of it: tickles PTSD, the condition I can never tell anyone seriously about, "fortunately", I have way more up my sleev.)
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>>36622800
yeah, they are very caring and supportive. My only problem is peers
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>>36622861
One lives in the same province I am now, others are at around 2~3 hours of car/train, then some are 2~ hours of plane and then there are the americans
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>>36622921
who to respond to here*
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>>36622921

Sometimes I leave, but I always say why.

Sometimes I don't respond to every post, because others are engaging them already, and so, in such cases, I just pay attention and comment if I think I must. I explain this in the OP today. It's related to how popular a thread is.
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>>36622933
>My only problem is peers

How so?
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>>36622875
I know this quite well. People in high school would always make fun of me, because when they touched me on my back without my expecting it, I would always jump up and feel uncomfortable. Like when you're crossing the road and you almost get hit by a car and you realize the danger. That kind of feeling. Your heart jumps into your throat.

Is it similar for you, at all?
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>>36622970
I have no problems communicating with parents or family, but i struggle with social conventions and interactions only with others my age
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>>36622841
Could you tell me more about this?
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>>36622060
does this still sound like bpd in your opinion?
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>>36622977

This is typical of abused children. Always breaks my heart when a kid jumps out of his skin when he realises I asked him something quietly and he didn't notice. It usually checks out too. Sooner or later, I hear about that kid's parents.
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>>36622931
>Why did you not tell them not to touch you?
I did tell them that i didnt liked touched.
>>36622977
> because when they touched me on my back without my expecting it, I would always jump up and feel uncomfortable
Yeah i know this feeling. Even when i'm 24 i do still feel uncomfortable by other people touching me besides hands.
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>>36623056
I used to do the exact same too. Don't really think it had anything to do with my parents though. God I'm glad I'm out of school
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>>36623056
I do it to this day, I have twitchy reactions to surprising things, only now my initial reaction is to attack back instead of run away like it was when I was a kid. When I was about 16, my initial reaction to people touching me unexpectedly was to take a swing at them or grab their arm and yank them towards the nearest wall. Now I learned to just take a few swift steps back and prepare my arms.

Just to add, it doesn't have to be only abuse. I was never abused (by a parent), only bullied by my peers.
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>>36622695
I have a question, rather than answer. When you fantasize about hurting other people, do you imagine specific people? What I mean by this is, a specific person, a specific gender, race, appearance and so on.. or do you only fantasize about people in general?
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>>36622997

I'm assuming you grew up in violence, your brother's, and you adapted to that. Now you expect others to attack you, and you feel safe only if you attack them first. Just throwing ideas out there.

This would cause high anxiety, which would then cause derealisation. You're out of yourself constantly, desensitised to your real feelings. Always ready to fight. I could be wrong.
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>>36622720
I tried them. Under 50% on all of them except OCD (70% "Based on your answers, it's unlikely that you have Obssesive-Compulsive personality disorder.")
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>>36623040

No. Avoidant is more likely, but that doesn't sound Borderline.

http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv
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>>36623074
>I did tell them that i didnt liked touched.

How did they react?

> Even when i'm 24 i do still feel uncomfortable by other people touching me besides hands.

Everyone, or does this differ from person to person?
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>>36623074
>Yeah i know this feeling. Even when i'm 24 i do still feel uncomfortable by other people touching me besides hands.
Yeah I'm 24 too. Actually being hugged makes me extremely uneasy. I was once on a date (well, it was the only date I've ever been on) and it didn't go well, but at the end she hugged me, I remember feeling very conflicted. It was very pleasant to feel human warmth but at the same time I was completely unused to it and felt sick, felt like I'm doing something I REALLY shouldn't be doing. Every second I spent hugging her, I had this irrational fear of someone sticking a knife in my right kidney. Now that I think about it, that fear is surprisingly specific.
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>>36623241
The only flaw is I'm never anxious.
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>>36623283
>Everyone, or does this differ from person to person?
If you meant that everyone does, I don't. I'd rather not be touched, of course, but there's nothing uncomfortable about it in itself. It depends of course on how close you are to the person. Some random bloke hugging you is of course uncomfortable, simply because it's so damn unusual and weird.
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>>36623132
>Don't really think it had anything to do with my parents though.

>known child abuse of various levels
>established consequences in adult life
>"Not really my parents."

Yes, yes of course it was your parents. I have a student who's jumpy as fuck, and he has abusive parents. It's very obvious the kid isn't bad, but acts up a lot. His parents are something special.
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>>36623283
>How did they react?
They didnt understand why i was so twitchy about it.
>Everyone, or does this differ from person to person?
Thing is i actually touch other people but i dont like to be touched by them.
>I was once on a date
Dunno i never was on a date. I hugged other females in platonic way but never in sexual one.
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>>36623198
>When I was about 16, my initial reaction to people touching me unexpectedly was to take a swing at them or grab their arm and yank them towards the nearest wall.

You're on fight mode constantly too.

>Just to add, it doesn't have to be only abuse. I was never abused (by a parent), only bullied by my peers.

That has been enough to give you issues. It may be some kind of PTSD reaction.

How were your parents to you?
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>>36623355
I'm not saying you're wrong (I don't know for sure what the cause is), but I'm leaning more towards what Dan said in >>36623198

>it doesn't have to be only abuse. I was never abused (by a parent), only bullied by my peers.

It only started happening with me really during (and after) secondary school, when I was bullied quite a lot
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>>36623247

These tests are very demanding. 70% is very high for it.

http://www.ocdaction.org.uk/do-i-have-ocd

Try this one.
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>>36623256
sounds like we might be on to something. It's just as well, I already planned on seeking a professional next week, for various reasons. If that does happen and you have a thread up I'll pop in and let you know how that went
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>>36623308
>. Now that I think about it, that fear is surprisingly specific.

I'm starting to consider you may have trauma from a past life, Dan. Why the fear of getting stabbed? Have you ever been stabbed?
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>>36623429
>How were your parents to you?
Always good. Never beating me or abusing me psychologically. I didn't really talk to them much about my problems though (they never knew about me being bullied). I still don't. They were working 8 or 12 hour alternating shifts during most of my childhood, so that there was always one of them at home, most of the time it was only one of them. Obviously I don't blame them, I'm just explaining why I'm not used to sharing my problems with them.
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>>36623330

Not anymore, no. Derealisation happens after high anxiety, in order to remove it. This may be a more or less permanent condition for you.
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>>36623354
>If you meant that everyone does, I don't. I'd rather not be touched, of course, but there's nothing uncomfortable about it in itself. It depends of course on how close you are to the person.

I meant: is this the same with everyone touching you or does it depend on who touches you? What about a lover?
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>>36623483
I scored 7/40 this time.
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>>36623556
No. Well only in school with compasses (not the thing that shows you north, the thing you use to make circles - pic related) that we used in school. But I other stuff done to me, I don't think I need to go into details, it feels silly in a way ruminating over shit that happened to me in middle school.

Never been stabbed though.
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>>36623545

Pretty tame results, on average. See mine for a comparison.
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>>36623684
>it feels silly in a way ruminating over shit that happened to me in middle school.
I don't see why it should. Being fucked with by your peers at that age can easily leave life-long scars.
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>>36623725
Theres really not much difference between the two.
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>>36623650

Very low.

Do you want all the tests?


https://www.depression-anxiety-stress-test.org/take-the-test.html
http://www.celebritytypes.com/dark-triad/test.php
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20151123-how-dark-is-your-personality
http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv
http://www.ocdaction.org.uk/do-i-have-ocd
https://psychcentral.com/quizzes/borderline.htm
http://www.pdchat.co.uk/psychtests/stpd/stypal.php
https://pcsearle.com/screening/screen_des.html
http://aspergerstest.net/aq-test/
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20151123-how-dark-is-your-personality
http://vistriai.com/kinseyscaletest/
https://psychology-tools.com/empathy-quotient/
http://www.educateautism.com/infographics/sally-anne-test.html

http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv
http://www.4degreez.com/misc/seven_deadly_sins.html
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>>36623794

I realised that after I posted. I had a memory of way worse results than I actually had.
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General question:

Does anyone actually read the archived threads?

I keep the file updated with all the links to previous threads.
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I'm here ppl
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>>36623839
This is the first one I've responded to/interacted with
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>>36623839
I haven't yet but I might go through them. The biggest reason I keep coming to these threads now is because I enjoy watching you help people. I'd like to go back and see more of it at some point. Also, what file do you mean? (sorry if you've mentioned it before)

>>36623866
Hello, are you feeling well?
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>>36623901
Hello Ethan. I'm feeling extremely rough because my mother has got involved with a drug dealer and his violent friends again. I'm quite a misogynist because of her, truth be told.
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>>36623923
I'm sorry to hear it. What do you mean by "got involved? Romantically? Has she been buying drugs off him? Or something else? Don't answer if you don't want to obviously, I'm not trying to pry
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>>36623609
Nice. I've been fucked since childhood.
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>>36623839
i dont read the archive tbqhwy

i have a somewhat urgent question today. a little background:
i have an older brother who got married november of the last year. a month and a half ago my sister in law had an unwanted abortion.
today my brother left his vehicle at the house so my father could take it to the mechanic (cause my brother had work and couldnt take it himself).
so a few hours ago me and my mom went to pick it up from the mechanic and my mom thought it would be a good idea to take it to a car wash so we did.
there were a lot of papers in his vehicle that we took out before they washed it.
among those papers there was a little note in cursive that i think is a suicide note (im not completely sure since i dont understand some of the words)
i didnt tell my mother, i just put it in my pocket to reread it.

what should i do? should i tell him i know? ive never been in this situation before
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>>36623960
You're a sweet young man. She's in a romantic relationship with him, and has been for five years. He keeps telling her lies about protecting her, while at the same time asking her to lie for him and remaining in connection with African smugglers.
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>>36624033

What words made you think it's a suicide note? I think you should tell somebody ASAP, especially if you're concerned about your bro.
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>>36623901

A copypasta file. So I can just post all of them in one go, for anyone who wants.
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>>36624049
Wow. That sounds horrible. I can't think of what I would do in that situation myself. I hope she realises her mistake eventually, it's really a shame that things like this happen
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>>36623980

Hope that's not too literal.
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>>36624128
It's a poor do indeed. She's permanently stilted my mental growth. I don't think I'm stupid but nevertheless there's a fundamental stage of mental growth that I have genuinely foregone.
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>>36624120
Oh, I see.

Kind of off topic, but I'm interested since I need a new job. What does it take to be a teacher? Teaching has always interested me. I'd love to join one of those teacher training programs
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>>36624167
Don't worry, you seem more than smart enough in my eyes. Have you ever tried talking to her about it?
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I'm back, what'd I miss?
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>>36624221
Now and again. But there's a deficit there. Aside from her sexually provoking me
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>>36624099
ill try to translate it the best i can:
I [redacted name] decided to [take the life?] for different [reasons?]. No one is guilty other than [myself?]. Take advantage of what you want, do whatever you want with the rest. [signature]
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>>36624033

What does the note say exactly?

Who wrote it? I say talk about it with your brother.
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>>36624283
>Now and again. But there's a deficit there.

I see. I'm similar with my parents

>Aside from her sexually provoking me

What? What do you mean?
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>>36623372
>tfw ignored :/
feelsbad.
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>>36624288

That does sound like a suicide note dude, try to contact him and/or your parents as soon as possible
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>>36624312
She would masturbate me, among other things
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>>36624131
I hope so too, but I wouldn't know.
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>>36624182

This being the UK, I think you'll find all the training programs you need. I teach in a private school, they could hire monkeys if they wanted. I have a master's in what I teach, but never had any training. I literally started teaching students age 10 to 20 without more experience than a week of substituting for someone else in another school.

Pretty rough. I learned the job by doing the job.

You'd be a great teacher. I'll teach you what you need to know to hold a class if you go through with it.
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>>36624288

Contact the signed.
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>>36624323

I am not ignoring you. I have read your post.

Describe yourself some more, behaviour-wise.
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>>36624371
I can't really think of any other options other than cooking somewhere else, but I don't want a repeat of what just happened. I need to have something asap so I guess I'll just bite the bullet and go for it. I'd probably hope to be an English teacher if anything, since I got a literature degree and did nothing with it. Maybe it will stop my parents complaining.
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>>36620323
Hey, you might or might not know me, but I occasionally post a ***Christian General Thread***, doesn't matter if you don't, and one of my biggest problems is answering all the responses. There are times when I get multiple responses and really want to engage in a discussion with each of them, but sometimes I feel as though I won't have enough time to answer everyone before they all get tired of waiting. Also, at times it can kinda feel overwhelming, and I would like to answer them all, but sometimes it just feels tiring.

So, you seem to do this a lot seemingly daily so how do you do it?
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>>36624352
>She would masturbate me, among other things

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

Did I know this? I don't think so. Facet, what the fuck.

How did she rationalise that one?
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>>36624445
>Describe yourself some more, behaviour-wise.
I usually put a bit of a distance between people but if i find a person to whom i can click i'm prone to a bit of over-idealization following ignoring that person if he/she makes a mistake. I'm not a very good with a girl if i have an interest into her but if she's not interesting to me i can send a lot of mixed signals.
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>>36624352
Oh my god, what? How old were you?
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>>36624449
>hope to be an English teacher if anything, since I got a literature degree

You do? I didn't know that! I do too. Lit major master race ftw!

That should enable you to teach way more easily.

Forget about your parents' opinion. It won't matter.
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>>36624469
Er, well it was just fair enough
>>36624487
About fourteen
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>>36624501
Jesus. That's terrible. Did you ever talk about it afterwards? Does she regret it?
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>>36624468

I used to do Christian threads on /b/, answering questions for 10, 14 hours in a row. Legendary threads.

I type really fucking fast is what I do. It was easier with my mechanical keyboard, now I'm stuch with absolute horseshit.

The only way I could do this, here, was to just read, write, post, read, write, post, nonstop.

It's getting to the point where I can't fully do it now. In my Christian threads, I'd often be 45 minutes late. Here, I get 30 minutes late sometimes, even when I write nonstop.

With regular anons here, they handle people and provide interaction while I'm responding to everyone. It's becoming a team effort, so it's more manageable. Like a club. Considering having some assistants.

Where do you hold your thread?
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>>36624494
>I do too. Lit major master race ftw!

Oh cool! Do you read a lot?

>That should enable you to teach way more easily.

Excellent. I'll look right away for training courses. I'll take what I can get
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>>36624485
>if i find a person to whom i can click i'm prone to a bit of over-idealization following ignoring that person if he/she makes a mistake.

Right in the feels.

Can you explain the process of ignoring someone for a mistake after having idealised them so much?
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>>36624554
No. She believes that she did nothing wrong and it's selfish of me to blame her for my problems
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>>36624501
>Er, well it was just fair enough

She said that? How did that happen? I mean, did you freeze? Did you fight?

Holy shit...
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>>36624592
>Oh cool! Do you read a lot?

I used to do little else. Nowadays I only read 4chan posts, but I have a lot of books in my apartment.

>Excellent. I'll look right away for training courses. I'll take what I can get

Excellent idea.

Ethan, the literary cook.
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>>36624621

I'll never let go of this one. Your mother is fucking insane.

Share more.
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>>36624606
>Can you explain the process of ignoring someone for a mistake after having idealised them so much?
I just ignore completely like stop talking at all. I mean i just do my own thing and i stop finding that person interesting to talk to. Usually when my mood strikes i cut people off - i've done it couple of times.
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>>36624573
>With regular anons here, they handle people and provide interaction while I'm responding to everyone. It's becoming a team effort, so it's more manageable. Like a club. Considering having some assistants.
Yeah, that never happens for me. It's always like it's me against the world on 4chan

>Where do you hold your thread?
I post on r9k although I posted on /pol/ once and I actually got good responses. It was great! My first ever religion thread was on /pol/ and it was legendary as well. *looks out window nostalgically* but I guess for some reason I just prefer r9k
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>>36620323
How do I be a good employee?
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>>36624621

For my general education on narc pieces of shit, might you describe the kind of arguments she'd use to defend masturbating her own teenage son?

You can't make this shit up.
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>>36624682

How the fuck is this possible?

I've seen it with my own eyes, though. I'm asking because I cannot ever do this to anyone.
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>>36624706
>Implying I was a teenager
Preteen my good Lord
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This week has been pretty tough for me and it isn't getting any better with spending my birthday alone tomorrow, the one day I especially don't want to spend alone or rather the day I'm supposes to be happy. I have noticed that I still feel lonely even in the presence of others and overall having an undaunting sense of worthlessness due to me thinking about what I could have done differently in the past to have bettered myself now, and be free of strain. Reveling in the realizations of everyday life with a perpetual cycle of meaningless droning to amount to nothing in the end. A poor player in the world of apparent infinite possibilities, reduced to a former shell of a human who can only sulk in anger instead of being productive. This may be the last post I make depending on how things go in the near future. I commend those who work here to help and give my regards to op, thank you.
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>>36624621
Wow, does she not realise that that's completely wrong? Do you ever try and convince her of her mistakes? I would honestly have just cut contact at this point
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>>36624722
>How the fuck is this possible?
It's possible because to me people are just things (no edgelording). What i mean by this that i have very shallow connection with them and breaking it is not difficult.
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>>36624689

Use a trip. You're bound to attract followers. If they stick around, they can become allies. If you don't do the thread regularly, just alert them by e-mail when you open one, or something.
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>>36624704
Number 1: SHOW UP ON TIME
Number 2: DO YOUR JOB
That's it.
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>>36624704

Be good at what you're paid to do.

>>36624758

You said 14.

But yeah, share more about this sickening mother of yours.
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>>36624799
>Use a trip
What is?
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>>36620323
Just ADHD, autism.
Basically I'm a social retard.
You have to design things for me if you want me to do something.

Just.
Eh.
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>>36624775
Come back tomorrow, I'll wish you a happy birthday. And in case you don't show back up, Happy almost Birthday!
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>>36624661
>I used to do little else. Nowadays I only read 4chan posts, but I have a lot of books in my apartment.

Nice, I've been getting more and more into reading lately. Aside from here, /mu/ and /lit/ are all I visit.

Also, I've never been fired up until now, but shouldn't they give a fair warning that I'm going to be leaving, instead of just one day? I swear I've heard about "two weeks notice", or is that just for resignations?
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>>36624845
The string of nonsense behind Nick and a few others' names.
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>>36624825
>>36624818
>Be good at what you're paid to do.
Ok, but how about having a good relationship with the boss? Like so he doesn't just see me as lame but also kinda like a work buddy. What I'm trying to say is how do I get on his good side. I know doing your work can help but I just wanna be more than just a workaholic root who clocks in then leaves with little to no contact with people.
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>>36620323
I don't know if you remember me, but the other day I had a story about my girlfriend Harriet and how she accused me (violently) of cheating on her with her alter ego, for lack of a better term.

She has now taken up residence in a mental hospital. I was told that I really shouldn't have contact with her,until they have a better handle on the situation, and I don't think she's allowed any visitors but her parents. Do you have any idea how long they usually keep people committed for? Or at least when they stop holding them incommunicado?
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>>36624338
>>36624388
i guess i'll have to confront my brother about it?
im not very tactful though.
how do i go about telling him i know he planned a suicide and that we care for him. i dont think he will commit suicide now since my sister in law is pregnant again and it looks like this baby will make it but im still worried about him. i thought i was the only suicidal one
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>>36624775

Very welcome.

Tell you what, come tomorrow. We'll celebrate your birthday together! OK?
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>>36624790
>It's possible because to me people are just things (no edgelording). What i mean by this that i have very shallow connection with them and breaking it is not difficult.

Just as I feared.

How do you idealise someone?
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>>36624845

In the name field, write this:

"Robert ##485632"

The number can be anything you want, it's your password. It'll show up as a "tripcode". This is to be sure only you can use your trip. That's how I prove that I'm me.
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>>36624846

Probably wrong on most of that list.

Make a list of symptoms.
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>>36625024
>How do you idealise someone?
I just find that person to be comfortable with and want to spend more time with him/her. If they dont want to be spend time, i cut them off.
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>>36624916
>Ok, but how about having a good relationship with the boss? Like so he doesn't just see me as lame but also kinda like a work buddy.
I don't know yhis feel. Boss knows I'm a major workaholic, but because I get ahit done he trusts me.
What I'm trying to say is how do I get on his good side. I know doing your work can help but I just wanna be more than just a workaholic root who clocks in then leaves with little to no contact with people
First you have to interact positively woth people. Then go above and beyond your job description. This makes you exemlary to the boss(es).>>36620323
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>>36624916

Ask him questions, see how he reacts. If he gives you short answers and seems busy, don't insist.

If he gives longer answers, ask some more. Play it by year. Same way you'd make a friend.
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>>36625056
IS there a maximum and minimum amount of numbers that can be put after the #?
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>>36624959

I remember you.

They usually keep them for however long they need to cease being a danger to themselves or others. So I don't know. Contact her parents and see what's up?
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>>36624997

Don't go full frontal then. Ask him how he is, face to face. See how he responds.

I doubt people casually forget suicide notes in cars. He may have wanted people to find it.
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>>36620323
Hate I didn't get to hang around much today, its the one day a week I can actually catch my neet friends online at human hours and Smite it up. Gotta run to practice, see ya tomorrow. Pic related, to trigger anti-weaboos, my forms weapon for martial arts.
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>>36625096

What kind of mistakes makes you cut them off?
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>>36625215
>What kind of mistakes makes you cut them off?
Basically not spending time with me or not writing to me.
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>>36625006
I suppose so, but I wouldn't want to burden you or others with that.
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I'm back pls help
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>>36625196
my brother is very disorganized, his car is the center of his disorganization. i found the note crumpled along other papers. i bet he thought about throwing it away or something once he got home or to work and he forgot about it
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>>36625134

I've never tried. I guess not. Go crazy, try!

I'll try right here.
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>>36625200

Nice!!! Have fun!
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>>36625257
You're not a burden, we welcome more people to show up and hang out.
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>>36625257

I know what it's like to have nobody to celebrate your birthday with. We're here for you. You're not a burden.
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>>36625257

I'd be happy to.

>>36625258

What can we do to help you? I sent you an e-mail.
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Is it fine to threat to kill a person's pet rat, because it ate my food?
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>>36625413

No, that's absolutely psycho, in common parlance.
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>>36625425
I kept telling her to put it in the other cage so it wouldn't get out. She didn't, it got out, and I told her next time I'm killing it.
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>>36625510

Is it the pet's fault? No.

Should the pet be punished? No.

Is it fair to kill the pet to punish its owner? No.

Solutions: change cage yourself; discuss this more until she is convinced.
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>>36625542
Well it's either death or she's getting rid of it. It's strange, because I yelled at her, but I wasn't actually mad.
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>>36625297
And made it. Now just around 15 minutes of waiting before sensei gets here to unlock doors and another 20 before it starts. I always got everywhere 5-10 minutes early, now I leave half an hour even sooner than that because if someone's laying on the road I don't want to be late wherever I'm going. But I wouldn't be able to simply drive away
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>>36625573
>because I yelled at her, but I wasn't actually mad.

Maybe you were, but couldn't feel it. Maybe you're so disconnected from your feelings and yourself that even this much you can't feel.
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How do you get it through to counselors that you have a deep mistrust in mind-altering drugs being offered as a solution to your problems? Why is this not one of the first things they ask at the start of a chain of sessions with them? Just a simple "do you wish for me to avoid suggestions that revolve around drugs, and instead simply TALK to you in order to get everything off of your chest".

"Here take these drugs, just ignore all the side-effects and the documented extremities that has caused among people in the past".

Yeah no, last time you guys did that someone shot up a fucking school because they became even more psychotic than before the drug. I'm not taking it.
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>>36625583

Is this serious? Do you mean it?
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>>36625669
>How do you get it through to counselors that you have a deep mistrust in mind-altering drugs being offered as a solution to your problems? Why is this not one of the first things they ask at the start of a chain of sessions with them? Just a simple "do you wish for me to avoid suggestions that revolve around drugs, and instead simply TALK to you in order to get everything off of your chest".

Mine asked if I wanted medication to help me, and I said I was skeptical of meds. She never once brought the subject up again.
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>>36625669
Initiate that conversation. Tell thim immediately that you distrust big pharma and drugs.
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>>36625686
Yup. Sitting here waiting. Been in this spot since my last post. Also all white isn't my style, but rules is rules.
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>>36625714
>>36625708

Thank you.
Also how would you word it to them saying you would prefer a male to talk to?
I kinda had a lot of women abuse me as a kid, I even mentioned this and how it built mistrust in them...yet they didn't even ask whether I felt comfortable speaking to a woman about it.
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>>36625809
do you mean with practice, or with waiting?
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>>36625845
>Also how would you word it to them saying you would prefer a male to talk to?

Try this: "I would prefer a male to talk to."

My LO wanted a male to talk to, receptionist asked her why. She said, "Well, if you give me a female therapist, I will fantasise about her and this will disturb me." Reception was like, "Oh, OK."

You don't even have to state your reason. I always made a point to choose a female therapist.
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>>36625856

Do you train in katana duels?

Judo? Karate?
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>>36625897
Tae Kwon Do, Tai Juitsu, and we not long ago started some Tai Chi. With the sword, it is only weapon forms. No people-to-people weapons in my circuit. I think there is some in Kendo, not sure.
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>>36625666
Maybe, maybe not. I might be a super villain in disguise that has the magnificent capability to not care about shit.
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>>36625888
Thank you Nick, appreciate it.
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>>36625897
Class is starting, I'll be back for a few around 8:20pm if thread is still up.
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We're in a shameful state. Who'd like to hear a monologue?
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>>36626027

Pretty nice.

Raioli
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>>36626142

No problem. May I ask why you'd prefer a man? Always curious, me.

>>36626201

Not sure what your local time is. But probably.

>>36626218

Go ahead.
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>>36626285
Sexual, physical and emotion abuse via family and friends. Only able to attract women who are either abusive or have been abused, or are alcoholics/druggies, etc. Just really aren't able to relate to women at all when speaking from my mind, it feels so awkward.
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I would like to participate but I cannot find a reason worth exploring. Just saying hi, I suppose. I see these threads and I don't think they're beneficial, but I like looking into the windows of people's private lives you might say. I had a therapist just like you and she quit her job because of me.
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Could I pls ring someone?
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>>36626377

Just to be sure I understand: your abusers were females?

Oddly, for my part, I relate more to women. I'm one of the girls.
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>>36626441
>>your abusers were females
Yes.
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>>36626431

What's going on? Share.
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>>36626470
I'm having a bit of a rough one. Instead of being emotionally honest, how abouit a monologue? Gizza link
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>>36626512

Have at it.

No clue what a gizza link is.
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>>36626524
I'm juxt saying, whatever link I will slay
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>>36626524
gizza = give me a.
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A link to what?
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>>36626701
I do believe they wish to initiate a chat with you outside of this web domain.. via an external application.
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I'm in your room, Facet.
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>>36626781
Give us a soliloquy and I'll fucking slay it
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>>36620323
Is there any hope for the anally born? I'm just sick of being a literally worthless human being.
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>>36626986

Slay this.

To be, or not to be- that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them. To die- to sleep-
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heartache, and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to. 'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die- to sleep.
To sleep- perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub!
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause. There's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life.
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
Th' oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despis'd love, the law's delay, 1765
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of th' unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? Who would these fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death-
The undiscover'd country, from whose bourn
No traveller returns- puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all,
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry
And lose the name of action.- Soft you now!
The fair Ophelia!- Nymph, in thy orisons
Be all my sins rememb'red.
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>>36627002

Why do you feel worthless?
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>>36627205
I don't feel worthless, I AM worthless. I'm an assbaby. I'm literally a mutant born out of an ectopic pregnancy and somehow managed to survive. But I'm in no way as physically or mentally capable as a normal person. There is literally nothing I can do as well as an average person. I get dizzy when I stand up too quickly. I smell like sour milk no matter how well I wash. I have trouble remembering things and I can't draw simple logical inferences. I am a waste of human flesh.
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>>36627314
>. But I'm in no way as physically or mentally capable as a normal person. There is literally nothing I can do as well as an average person.

You can spell better than 95% of posters on YouTube. That's gotta count for something.
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>>36627046
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1m3EMAc0a8R
Here it is
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>>36627467

Very nice.

I have to say, on a purely subjective level, and I could be wrong and biased, but I sometimes feel like I can hear you shifting.

At one point, I felt very, very ill at ease. To the point of feeling actual fear.
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>>36627639
Yeah? How so?
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>>36627754

It feels like I sense something very wrong. Like you're about to break. I think I'd be very, very tense around you.
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>>36627792
At what point?
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>>36627811

Near the end I believe, especially the parts where you raise your voice.

It's like you're always on edge. Maybe I'm just imagining things based on what I know of you. I don't know.
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>>36627397
>That's gotta count for something.
No it doesn't and we both know it.
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So the other day I was talking to a guy on the Internet, who I later found out is 13, and I asked him what a friend is
he simply said someone that you love and loves you back (it works better in Italian)
and that made me think.
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>>36627881

Uh, it does. It very much does.
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>>36627890
>he simply said someone that you love and loves you back (it works better in Italian)

Well then, say it in Italian, ragazzo.
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>>36628043
what he said was
qualcuno a cui vuoi bene e che ti vuole bene,
but exactly what he said isn't the point here
the point is that for the first time in forever I actually have the definition of friend.
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>>36628103
>qualcuno a cui vuoi bene e che ti vuole bene,

My French helps me understand this, we say, "vouloir du bien" to say, "to mean well", so I get it. It's a good definition.

It's very good.

>the definition of a friend

That sounds good too.
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>>36627999
So, you think that the defining part of the human experience is being able to spell correctly? That's kind of a pathetic existence.
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>>36628154

You said you weren't as capable as the majority of people, I gave you an example where this wasn't true.

That you're trying to twist this into something else to justify being aggressive towards me makes me sad.
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Time for me to sleep.

Night all!
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>>36628141
because in the past when people talked about friends I would always say, what's a friend?
meaning that I didn't have, but also as the actual question.
but now I know, so maybe after all there might be some people IRL that I could start calling friends, but I still don't care about them as much as my Internet friends.
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>>36628254
Night Nick! See ya later
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can anyone think of a reason to live for 21 year oldNEET with no friends, no gf, bad genetics, social anxiety and depression? This last month has been overwhelmingly hard. I can't shake that "I wish I was 16-18 in school again" or "I wish I was 13 kid again going Summer camp" or "I wish my parents would just hold me".

I'm even doing something productive these past few days up until 50days from now and have to take breaks to cry alone. I know crying makes me a faggot but otherwise I'm numb from the sadness and just feel incredibly tired.
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>>36629264
anyone know if having sex will help me? >>36628736

I don't think it will but might give me some confidence
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My mind isn't what it used to be
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>>36620323
Holy shit this thread is good, this brings up a lot of intresting questions and thoughts. I wish I knew about these threads sooner. :P
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>>36630613
>:P

Say Joy Lane
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>>36620323
Histrionic personality disorder
Schizotypal personality disorder
I constantly feel an urge to touch living things and play with them. My romantic life is erratic; I'm a twink but an "acquired taste."
By this, I mean my train of thought is hard to follow for people, I push a genius IQ, and people either love me and accept my insight and humor as admirable or they hate my guts and think I'm creepy/annoying.

I want to know how to self-treat. What things can I tell myself, what behaviors should I hone, to become more normal/ less flamboyant and dramatic?
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>>36631069
>I want to know how to self-treat. What things can I tell myself, what behaviors should I hone, to become more normal/ less flamboyant and dramatic?
you're a genius, figure it out by yourself
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>>36631189
Tried and failed, ended up giving myself OCD and having to self-treat THAT.
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>>36631215
Oregano, that was me.
Mr. Cool the Most Original
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>>36631215
>Tried and failed
guess you're the dumb kind of genius :)
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I know I'm coming in really late but i hope you're still here
For the longest time I've struggled with religion. I grew up in a religious house that was very open minded. And I mean that in a way that they were open to concepts and very deep thinking which they taught me. And why in theory this seems like a good thing it was way to much for me to handle at that age so I ended up never being very confident in my believes because I always felt like there was more to it that I didn't understand and that I was condemned to hell. It got so bad that I would have random moments where I would start crying uncomfortably and either my parents or my sister would have to try to calm me down. Once I was in about middle School I started having very bad depression and thought I was unsaveable and that it was God's plan for me to grow up to be some sort of horrible person. My logic for this was that I was like the ferro of Egypt when God purposely hardened his heart to not let the Jewish people go. Later I grew out of that type of thinking but still struggled with knowing if I was truly saved which is why I'm religious but I'm so scared of being religious that it's hard to commit to any kind of religion
(sorry if this is really badly put together, I'm very sleepy currently. I'm also probably leaving out see important details)
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>>36631309
I misspelled a lot of shit
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>>36631263
The best kind.
Mr. Cool the Most Original
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>>36631309
Similar situation here. What helped me, however, was attending our Presbytery, whose pastor was a historical perspective genius. Never once were we hit with a Jeremiad, never once were we hit up for more cash than we could spare, never once were we given one-sided arguments.

Just find a good pastor for whatever you decide to settle down with. Though I'd certainly like to see it be Christ-ey.
Mr. Cool the Most Original
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>>36631309
>>36631352
Its ok I got the general point. I think. I'm a simple man so forgive me if some higher point go well above my head.
You were raised a skeptic. Question everything, especially your own beliefs and arguments right? So raised in this environment, with no firm ground to base beliefs on except that everything you beieve could and is probably wrong, you never had the confidence of belief. Of faith. You were TRAINED to not accept a belief, no matter how much you want to. I don't know how to help you, but maybe knowing your problem can help you counter your, I hate to use the word, but your indroctrination.
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LSD tonight lads, it's either going to help me or fuck me. Not sure I really care anymore...
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>>36630432
What do you mean?
>>36630613
Come back tomorrow around the same time as OP's post, another thread may be up by then.
>>36629264
>>36629444
Sex isn't the answer, visiting an escort will leave you feeling emptier and more worthless as a person, especially if it is your first. As far as a reason to live, you were born for the purpose of living. Still being alive means you are successful. If that sounds too optimistic, let me ask some questions. Maybe we can find answers.
Why are you neet?
>with no friends, no gf, bad genetics,
What are your hobbies anon?
>social anxiety and depression?
Aren't we all?
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>>36632077
I can't comprehend language anymore. Words feel foreign to me, I feel like it's my first time hearing words. I feel stupider and like an animal. I have crippling social anxiety. I get no enjoyment from my hobbies anymore. Docs tell me I have psychosis. I want to fucking kill myself
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>>36632223
>I can't comprehend language anymore. Words feel foreign to me, I feel like it's my first time hearing words.
I couldn't tell from your typing. Is it only spoken words, or written word as well?
I feel stupider and like an animal.
I would say so. Do you know if it is just the words themselves you are forgetting, or is it the concepts as well?
>I have crippling social anxiety. I get no enjoyment from my hobbies anymore.
Were your hobbies lone hobbies or did they involve others? What were they?
>Docs tell me I have psychosis.
Tell me about your psychosis
>I want to fucking kill myself
Please don't. Doctors have given a diagnosis, so what did they say was the cure?
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>>36632326
I can communicate efficiently but the words mean nothing to me in my mind. It feels like semantic satiation except with all the words
I'm struggling with understanding concepts as well
My hobbies were playing video games. I played Civilization V which has a lot of pieces to it and now that my mind is impaired I just don't play it anymore. I don't know if it was because I'd been in the hospital for some time and forgot how to play it or because I don't understand anymore.
I never hallucinated or heard voices. What happened was that I felt like my surroundings weren't real and that I couldn't understand the television the next day they tell me it's psychosis.
They told me to take my medications for a year. I've been taking them on and off for a few months and they help with the spacey feeling I have. Im seeing a new psychiatrist next week to change my meds
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>>36620323
So I have DID, but I've been in treatment for a couple years now (specifically for DID, I've been in psychiatric treatment for longer but most of that was full of misdiagnosis and wasn't overly helpful.)

I've been relatively stable and have managed to finish my degree, and recently got a job working at a psychiatric hospital. While I suppose this isn't a major issue, some of the training has caused my symptoms to be a bit more worse than usual, such as more issues with zoning out, headaches, outright switching, and other related issues. I could just be being paranoid, but I'm somewhat concerned that a couple of the people I'm in training with may have noticed, especially since one of the nurses in training asked about my handwriting changing, which I've always been self-conscious about. This wasn't really helped by the part of the training where they specifically described the symptoms of DID and how to recognize them.

I guess to summarize things I'm worried about my coworkers noticing my problems, my problems possibly getting worse as a result of my new job, and the patients potentially noticing.
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Hi, what's up i guess.

I've just been kind of ashut in since about 8th grade which is when my family started moving a lot. I didn't have very many friends so i just kinda stayed on the internet all day or did whatever as to not piss off my mom. My brother is gay and autistic, and we've never gotten along.

Right now im just going through one of my depressed phases i guess. Like i've been straight up avoiding people at work because im moving back to the ONE place growing up i've ever had any friends and leaving my family because fuck my family really. I move back in with them because they beg me to then in less then a year they kick me out.

So fuck it im going back to my friends, and moving in with one of them. I'm also going to be purposely jobless for 4 months so that i can work on a novel i've been wanting to shit out for a very very long time now.

At this point i'm more ranting then talking about my problems. but yeah. Lately i've just been so isolated. I dont talk to anyone at work or go out to any bars or anything because Fuck actually becoming attached to someone when im going to be leaving in a few months. It's at the point where Today its fucking friday at 11 pm and i'd rather just sit at home then go to a bar and meet people because fuck making friends when i'll just end up leaving them. We'll i'd have to be sufficiently drunk before that would happen anyway.

So yeah i guess. just sad robot tonight.
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>>36632516
>My hobbies were playing video games. I played Civilization V which has a lot of pieces to it and now that my mind is impaired I just don't play it anymore. I don't know if it was because I'd been in the hospital for some time and forgot how to play it or because I don't understand anymore.
>I never hallucinated or heard voices. What happened was that I felt like my surroundings weren't real and that I couldn't understand the television the next day they tell me it's psychosis.
What happened to you?

>>36632678
What is DID? Any easy reading on this condition for a non-med student to grasp?
Also, why are you worried about your training partners knowing you have a condition that they are being trained to help with?
Lastly, if a patient notices, how can this be negative? You have worked through something to become successful, and more importantly, helping others. Even some who suffer what you are dealing with.
Forgive my ignorance and asking to be spoonfed, been a long day.
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>>36632928
>I've just been kind of ashut in since about 8th grade which is when my family started moving a lot. I didn't have very many friends so i just kinda stayed on the internet all day or did whatever as to not piss off my mom. My brother is gay and autistic, and we've never gotten along.
No offense to your brother, but autism is hard to handle, especially for a sibling. What did your mother do when she was pissed off at you?

>Right now im just going through one of my depressed phases i guess. Like i've been straight up avoiding people at work because im moving back to the ONE place growing up i've ever had any friends and leaving my family because fuck my family really. I move back in with them because they beg me to then in less then a year they kick me out.
Tell me more about the move back in then getting kicked out. Who wanted you back, what they said. What happened in the meantime, and who is kicking you out, for what reason(s)?

>So fuck it im going back to my friends, and moving in with one of them.
I wish I had friends like that

>I'm also going to be purposely jobless for 4 months so that i can work on a novel i've been wanting to shit out for a very very long time now.
Is this while at home or crashing on your friend's place?

>At this point i'm more ranting then talking about my problems. but yeah.
Its fine, here to listen.

>Lately i've just been so isolated. I dont talk to anyone at work or go out to any bars or anything because Fuck actually becoming attached to someone when im going to be leaving in a few months. It's at the point where Today its fucking friday at 11 pm and i'd rather just sit at home then go to a bar and meet people because fuck making friends when i'll just end up leaving them. We'll i'd have to be sufficiently drunk before that would happen anyway.
Nothing wrong with alone time. But can I suggest letting your friends when you are moving back in advance?
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>>36633003
Dissociative Identity Disorder. Pretty much some traumatic event happened in early childhood which led to my personality being kind of broken up. The disorder used to be called multiple personality disorder.
And I'm worried about them knowing about it because I'm supposed to be one of the caregivers, not one of the patients. And if the patient notices any issues they can use it against you, since not all the patients I'll be working with will be "innocent little angels."
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>>36633137

She never hit me or anything it was just a bunch of yelling. Like constantly, i basically got immune to it after a point. When i was around 17 i remember having had done something wrong, which i knew was wrong, but could have been talked out. Instead she runs into my room and starts yelling. There's a difference, a very definite difference from when she'll talk to you, and when she just wants to yell at you. With her its never talked through, whoever can yell loudest would win, so i stopped yelling and boy did she hate it and i did NOT care.

So really the "moving back in" Was moving in with them in Iowa. I lived in arkansas at the time. So i moved in with them for a few months and whatever, after that my mom was pushing me hard to move out and be independent with my life and whatever once i finally had a foothold, Like first chance. So when my lease is up im moving back to arkansas because fuck that.

I'll be jobless when i crash with my friend. I'm moving in with him and his parents. He's like 30 something and he's a NEET. I'll be paying his parents 250$ a month as rent as well as my own food, aside from that i have my par payments / insurance and i'm golden. I can honestly afford 5 months with how much money i've saved up, but if i've finished my novel by then i can just bide my time a bit and get it published while i work some kind of whatever job i find. Even if it's not a huge hit or best seller, hell even if it completely flops, i'm cool with it. I wrote a novel. I did what i wanted to do. After that i can save up some more money and go to a cheap community college down there.

i plan on hanging out with my friends again. There's a good handful i'll be very happy to see again.
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Went to a psych center. Got locked in the affective ward for three days. Put me on busipron and bupropion. I feel a lot better. Suicidal ideation is still present. I think its compulsive. Going to a followup on thursday. Should be nice. Going to touch up my brand because i shouldnt forget all that lead to it. Itll look nice, be nice proof.
I still feel empty. But a positive empty. Like smooth jazz barely audible in an empty room.
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>>36633178
Thanks for the spoonfeed!
>And I'm worried about them knowing about it because I'm supposed to be one of the caregivers, not one of the patients. And if the patient notices any issues they can use it against you, since not all the patients I'll be working with will be "innocent little angels."
Who said they were? But for those that actually Want help, seeing someone that has a condition as well, and is living a (mosty) normal life after treatment may help them see that ESPECIALLY you can help them with treatment to help them live a normal life.

>>36633342
This is how my ex's mother was. And holy shit, not yelling back set her off fierce. Its like by not yelling back she's not even worth your attention so she yells louder trying to get you to react.

Who wanted you to move back in? Who suggested/pushed you to move back in with your folks after you were independent?

I'm glad you're helping a friend, and not living parasitically. I really wish I had friends like yours. I have three friends in the world who would offer me a place to crash.

>>36633350
>Went to a psych center. Got locked in the affective ward for three days. Put me on busipron and bupropion. I feel a lot better.
I'm glad you're feeling better, hope it sticks.

>Suicidal ideation is still present. I think its compulsive.
I've found once you seriously contemplate it once, the thought can never leave your head completely.

>Going to a followup on thursday. Should be nice. Going to touch up my brand because i shouldnt forget all that lead to it. Itll look nice, be nice proof.
Post untouched-up brand?

>I still feel empty. But a positive empty. Like smooth jazz barely audible in an empty room.
That seems comfy. I'd stay in that room, at least for a time.
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>>36633655
The trainers were pretty clear on the point that we shouldn't let the patients know if we've had any issues in the past.
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>>36633674
Then I'd follow their suggestion, they're professionals. I'm just someone trying to help those lost souls who come here of all places seeking help Because its a Friday night and I have few irl friends Hanging out with the people who frequent these threads feels like having several friends care about me, instead of literally 4.
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>>36633655
It looks like fucking shit.
Maybe if i cut then burn it closed itll get deeper and present better.
Its less that I want to die at this point and more an innate feeling that I should.
I think its mostly my family thats causing it currently. Might be the drugs.
Im just not even sure of what im feeling anymore. I just feel tense. Not quite anxiety, just a directionless energy.
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I flip my shit when drawers/cabinets are left open. What is it?
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>>36633719
3 of my most intimate friendships sparked from 4chan furfag threads on /b/ of all places.
I guess what im trying to communicate is dont feel down because youre getting your instinctual social fix from online strangers.
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>>36633731
I would put a bandage on it and try to reduce the risk of scaring. Although it may seem appealing to do now, it may not be the best idea for the future.
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>>36633655
My mom and dad both did. Apparently they want me within arms reach, just not actually having to deal with me, i did it initially to get a better hold on life. Before i would walk to walmart (Where i worked) at night because i didn't have a licence or anything, and everything. Like i was genuinely just unprepared for life. Now that i'm good and ready i just need to wait it out.
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>>36633775
Oh, I haven't done anything yet, gotta wait for an empty house.
I want it to scar. Scar deep. The symbolism is too basic and delicious to pass up.
I have a hard time remembering things because of years of depression and im sure being a borderline doesnt help.
I dont want to forget all of the happiness that got destroyed and lead to its creation, even if it brings back all that pain. I dont want to forget the best woman ive ever met and the only one that i truy loved, and loved me for a time.
Why am i even crying.
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>>36633761
Mild OCD at worst.
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>>36633761
Sounds like you cannot handle things being out of their place. Can't remember the name for this.
>>36633924
Thank you for the name, I couldn't remember.

>>36633731
Have you tried to focus that energy into something? Doesn't have to be something practical, like the game I'm working on that will never see daylight.

>>36633772
Thanks friend. I'm not too down, just aware if what I don't have and how I often unconciously push people away because I'm an insufferable smartass who can't keep his mouth shut irl.

>>36633806
I'm glad you are ready for life now. Sounds like your parents were suffering from a bad case of empty nest.

>>36633853
>Oh, I haven't done anything yet, gotta wait for an empty house. I want it to scar. Scar deep. The symbolism is too basic and delicious to pass up.
What does it say? My eyes are tired and having trouble focusing.
>I have a hard time remembering things because of years of depression and im sure being a borderline doesnt help.
Maybe being depressed and borderline suicidal is why I remember nothing from the past several years of college.

>I dont want to forget all of the happiness that got destroyed and lead to its creation, even if it brings back all that pain. I dont want to forget the best woman ive ever met and the only one that i truy loved, and loved me for a time.
>Why am i even crying.
The feels, brother. Stronger than any weapon. But marring yourself will not make you remember any better. Memories come and go, but the people who changed our liver irreversably cannot be so easily forgotten.
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Its almost 1:30am here, up waaay past when I should be awake. See everyone in ~13 hours!
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Bumpos originalios.
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Has this thread been on for the whole night?
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>>36635750

Yes. This is Nick from bed and phone. I need more sleep but having a hard time. Will be monitoring while trying to sleep some more.

sup?
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Posting in the longest lasting psy thread.
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hello again friends
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>>36636655
Yo Steve. What's up?
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>>36620323
How do I stay friends with an ex?
Especially if I'm still madly in love with them..
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>>36636795
Why did you break up?

The obvious answer is to get some distance. It helps you to see things more rationally.
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>>36620323
I can't believe I decided to post in this thread for something as normie as this, but I suffer from bad anxiety and very low self esteem. There's this one girl I've had a oneitis on for the past couple of months and I've talked to her several times but I can't bring myself to befriend her She even accepted my normiebook friend request and seems eager to talk to me, but I'm a big enough sperg not to go further. How do I bring myself to get closer to her? I unironically get panic attacks whenever she's online because I want to talk to her so badly but I'm afraid that she's gonna reject me / lead me on. I know roastie whores have a habit of telling everybody about it so that's worsened my anxiety. Somebody please make it stop.
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>>36637816
Strike a casual and safe conversation with her.

Discuss simple things. Make zero attempts at obvious seduction. You two will get to know each other. Then she willfeel safe with you. Then it ewill be natural.
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>>36637889
Is there any way for me to know for sure if she enjoys my company from our previous conversations?
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>>36638069

Don't worry about that. Just enjoy the conversation and focus on whether you like the girl or not.

Swap roles to see things from her perspective.
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>>36638172
Do you think she'd ruin my social circle like a roastie if I tried to make a move on her? I like her a lot but I'm still scared
>that loser tried asking me out omg eks dee xDD
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>>36638291
Don't ask her out. Take your time. Get to know her. First phase is for both of you to get comfy. Soon, you'll know if she is ok or not.
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A psych thread surviving the night? Unfathomable!
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Surprised that this thread is still up.
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>>36638529
Hero kept it up just long enough.
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>>36638591
An Fucking Hero indeed
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>>36638509
Thanks for the confidence boost, Anon! Guess I've been doing ok so far.
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Bored out of my mind and getting angry, so here's the bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara.
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Very cool mandala.
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If you see the Buddha in the woods, chop down the trees.
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Well, last night I got very upset. Hearing voices and shit, started hitting myself. All that good stuff.
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https://youtu.be/Ddivfb7Ojhg
I like Imee Ooi's music, especially this chant of metta (loving kindness). I used to practice cultivating this when I was feeling existential dread. It helped a bit back then.
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I'm not sure whether I should try to finally get some sleep or stay up all day. I'm enjoying the increase in pareidolia that seems to accompany sleep deprivation.
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>>36639211
This is certainly quite relaxing
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>>36639127

I'm sorry to hear that.

>>36639211

Listening.

>>36639422

Dubs and dubs. Nice image.
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>>36639127
Have you been diagnosed with anything in the past?
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>>36639724

Oh boy...

ravioli
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>>36639422
I don't see why any type of apophenia should increase with sleep deprivation. I was under the impression that the opposite would occur.
I think you may just be experiencing the average visual hallucinations that accompany sleep deprivations. I kinda get your gist, seeing things in the dark, seeing a few faces faintly etched into the wall, the floor, the window.
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>>36639756
schizo, I remember you samefagging over 300 replies the other night, nice one ya moron
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>>36639756
Hello Nick.

Did you sleep well?
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One day we'll do a reverse thread. I ask questions and share my problems and everyone's supposed to help me.

Kidding, I already share way more than I should, and people always try to help already.
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>>36639724
Oh, this and that. I'm pretty wacky.

>>36639722
I think it needed doing. Catharsis. Time to give up on my mother probably. I also came clean with that American girl that I was seeing someone just so she wouldn't get the wrong idea. I think her feelings were hurt but better to put her in the friendzone than risk leading her on further. I haven't heard from her since, anyway.
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>>36639799
>schizo, I remember you samefagging over 300 replies the other night, nice one ya moron

Samefagging is when you pretend to be another person. I use a trip.

>the other night

That's any night for a month back now.

>ya moron

Someone's upset.
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>>36639837

Hello Dan.

I did not. As of this week, I think, I ceased to have a normal sleeping pattern. I wake up after much less hours than I normally would, between 4 and 6 hours only. Then I stay in bed in another 6 hours if I can.

When I was happy and healthy, I got up at 8 to enjoy the day.

How are you?
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>>36639854

Good moves. If you need advice on how to cut off your parents forever until they die, you know who to talk to.

How come you didn't cut her off sooner? True question, no rhetoric.
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>>36639906
Any idea how to fix it? Getting tired or maybe skipping one night of sleep to go to sleep normally the other night?
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I posted in this thread the other day and you linked me a bunch of stuff about borderline personality disorder and from the tests and researching about it, it seems like something I have.

What am I supposed to do now though?

And just a completely random question why do you do stuff like this? I mean it has to be depressing/frustrating to try and help people with their problems. especially the kind of people that go on r9k
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>>36639942
It's not something I want to do - not at all - because I want her to have a better life. I just wish she were more obedient.
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>>36639971

It's not really the problem. I wake up because I'm extremely tense. I feel about to die every waking moment. Like an amplification of my mortality awareness, the kind you only get in extreme moments of anxiety. I can't relax. Working out helps but not all that much.

Therapist wants to try a relaxation session, which I said would fail, but I'm down with showing her how fruitless it is to me.
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>>36640048
I know you're opposed to antidepressants, but ever tried anxiety pills? You probably did though.
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>>36640007
>What am I supposed to do now though?

You start thinking and researching. Connect with your past, find out potential causes, obvious or less obvious. You also research complex trauma.

Then, if you can, seek a therapist who specialises in this stuff, and see them. If you like them, you're on.

>And just a completely random question why do you do stuff like this? I mean it has to be depressing/frustrating to try and help people with their problems. especially the kind of people that go on r9k

Most of the time, I find the opposite to be true. Virtually everyone is thankful for what I try to do, and sometimes it's actually very helpful. Worst case scenario, I was here to listen. It's not that bad. Some are tougher to discuss with, but frustration is rarely what I experience. I'm very patient when it comes to other people. It's mostly a positive experience. I also need it to survive. I live on doing good things. It's a terrible condition.
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>>36639872
That's right, I called you a moron, you darling little boy. And I am seething! So very, VERY upset!
>>36640007
See a professional before coming to any conclusions, PLEASE. If you don't have the money, please leave it. Focus on your symptoms, not a diagnosis.
The problem with self diagnosis is not only that it's utterly obnoxious but also that it could potentially warp the mindset of the sufferer, who could be suffering from an entirely different issue.
Are you in the US? It's related, don't worry.
>>36639854
That sounds slightly worrying. You've mentioned that you've been in and around diagnosis' so that probably covers the underlying issue. I don't think the actual event is anything to worry about, whatever mental issues you have are the real problem. Sorry to hear about it though.
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>>36640045
>I just wish she were more obedient.

Obedient. You want her under control. That's not what should happen. She should be under control, her own, and be a good person. You can't save her against her will. If I've learned anything from the Saw movies, it's that you can't save people, they must save themselves. You can help them to do that, but you can't save them without their own will.

Clarice couldn't save a single lamb. And once freed, the lambs didn't escape.
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>>36640079

I was once given something that made me forget entire days of my life. It was unsettling and useless.
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>>36640205
Are they all like that? I've never been on medication, but I understand some only make you relax and aren't as radical.

Of course this won't make you recover, but I think it can give you better conditions for recovery, no?
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>>36640166
>That's right, I called you a moron, you darling little boy. And I am seething! So very, VERY upset!

Shit, it's like I'm 15 again. More seriously, I know you're bitter, no need to hide it with shit humor. You wouldn't invest time in expressing anything if you weren't bothered by this thread somehow. No escaping from that.

>whatever mental issues you have are the real problem

Gold. Everyone knows what Facet has in this thread, you must not have paid attention very much.
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>>36640242

I don't have easy reactions to some medication, so I'd rather stay off them.
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>>36640187
I've been called a control freak in the past, and not without justification. However, I wouldn't be that way were it not for her. It can't be helped.
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>>36639775
I'm tempted to be rude to you, but that isn't in anyone's best interest. Consider the meaning of the word I used and ask yourself if your contribution was worth even half the time it took you to type it.
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>>36640277

Maybe you're pretending to care for her while really trying something else. I know someone who does that.

What do you get from interacting with her? Nothing positive.

You know how to defend yourself against everyone else in the world, your parents aren't special (in that regard). Defend yourself.

Accept the fact that she will probably not miss you, not in the sense that normal people would.
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>>36640252
What exactly am I bitter about? You wasting your own time? Please, sunshine. Head out of your ass.
>Gold. Everyone knows what Facet has in this thread, you must not have paid attention very much.
You're right, I should have read through every post to get the secret key at the end of the rainbow. Can't believe I just barged into this private r9k thread like that.
Facet. I know this man just whiteknighted you but please, don't take it badly, he's so gracefully accepted to help me get to know you and your personal problems inside and out.
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>>36640166
I live in the US, and I understand that self-diagnosing things in obnoxious, but I have gone to a therapist before when I was around 13 for anger management problems,and anxiety which are all symptoms of bpd so I'd say there's a very good chance that it is the cause for all of those.

It's hard to explain but if I'm feeling paranoid/upset over something it helps me get over it by know there's a reason.
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>>36640301
Pareidolia is a type of apophenia. What's the issue exactly?
And I don't see why you would be rude to someone if you think they were misinformed, relax. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
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>>36640382
>What exactly am I bitter about?
A great question. What exactly are you bitter about? You know, that you know.
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>>36633719
I'm going too, I'm just afraid of the other staff members finding out and judging me for it.
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>>36640401
I'm well aware. You seemed to think you were contradicting or correcting me, neither of which is true. It is that which would provoke hostility in my current state.
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>>36640382
>What exactly am I bitter about?

That's what I'm curious about. But I don't expect it'll be easy to extract from you, especially if you're ashamed of it. I have an idea already but it's too soon to tell.

>You wasting your own time?

I'm not wasting my time at all. You're a person too, you don't need any less help than the others.

>Facet. I know this man just whiteknighted you but please, don't take it badly, he's so gracefully accepted to help me get to know you and your personal problems inside and out.

You're off the mark, but I'll you find that out on your own.
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>>36640401
>And I don't see why you would be rude to someone if you think they were misinformed

Are you kidding? Does the irony of that statement fly right over your head?

>>36640382
>Head out of your ass.

Listen to your own advice sunshine.
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>>36640409

You should share more of what you experience. Do you have alters at all?
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>>36640382
I don't give much of a shit about your namefag war. It's in poor taste in a support thread though.
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>>36640572

Ray is your typical projectionist. I think he's upset that I do what I do, so he comes here, tries to offend me, then proceeds to try and do what I do in my own thread. He then calls me a whiteknight while actually being a whiteknight to you. He also tells others not to do what he does himself.

It's beautiful.

Ray, I'd say you're more interested in getting the attention of a whiteknight than you are in helping people. If you were interested in helping people, you'd focus on that, you'd appreciate my efforts, you might even have started your helping thread, on this board or elsewhere, but no.

You just want to shine in the spotlight, only nobody buys it.

I hope I didn't hit your feels too hard, but you need to be talked to like an adult.

Respond with whatever you want.
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>>36640400
Don't worry, nobody is ruling out that you may have it, there's always a chance. You'd need a psychiatrist to confirm it though, as we both know, so keep the possibility open. I suggest mentioning your suspicions to them if you ever to make an appointment.
Though, I'd like to add that your problem may be slightly more neurological in nature if you've had issues since the age of 13. I strongly, strongly doubt that BPD was the root cause of your anger management issues, as a) BPD doesn't really concern outbursts of rage/lack of control over your anger as much as it concerns outbursts that are more manipulative and nuanced in nature b) already having BPD at the age of 13 would make you a statistical anomaly (affects many more women than men -maybe because women are more neurotic?-, age of onset is usually late adolescence). Anxiety is largely correlated with BPD though, but returning to my second point, your age and (supposed, sorry for making assumptions) sex already makes it improbable.
So hold your horses. Also, if you do end up having BPD, you'll be relieved to know that it can be cured/alleviated with therapy, which is quite a feat for a personality disorder.
Anyways, I'm intrigued, can you please tell me more about your feelings of paranoia & your seeking reasons for things (if you feel like it).
>>36640441
Relax mayn, I just used a different word for it. I like to generalize things.
Misunderstandings aside, what's your "current state"? Is something distressing you?
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>>36640675
It's very telling that you think the issue lies in your use of a more encompassing term.
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>>36640649
>Ray is your typical projectionist. I think he's upset that I do what I do, so he comes here, tries to offend me, then proceeds to try and do what I do in my own thread. He then calls me a whiteknight while actually being a whiteknight to you. He also tells others not to do what he does himself.
He's not the only one of his kind ...
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>>36640530
Yes. The military one and the more "social" ones helped out the most for the job training over the week, while the younger ones really did not want to be there. I think it helped that one of the nurses going through the training had also been in the Marines, which overall helped us feel safer when going through the training, although it was still pretty stressful.
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>>36640649
Read the original post, all I did was call you a moron (in a decidedly casual way), you decided to take offense and proceeded to fling the word "bitter" at me as many times as your broken record gob would allow it.
You need to relax.
>Ray, I'd say you're more interested in getting the attention of a whiteknight than you are in helping people. If you were interested in helping people, you'd focus on that, you'd appreciate my efforts, you might even have started your helping thread, on this board or elsewhere, but no.
And I'm sorry, but what is this? Are you virtue signalling yourself? It's a fucking 4ch thread, you darling little narcissist.
Facet is right, this namefag war is fucking gay.
If you shut your greasy trap, I'll shut my greasy trap. Look, I "insulted" myself too. Don't lose the plot.
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>>36640675
>BPD doesn't really concern outbursts of rage/lack of control over your anger as much as it concerns outbursts that are more manipulative

You just lost the game. It seems you've obtained your information from poorly researched articles online, which often confuse NPD with BPD. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of Borderliners, in person, will know that your opinion on it is just ludicrous.

>having BPD at the age of 13 would make you a statistical anomaly

It wouldn't, since BPD is developed in infancy, coping mechanisms that are maintained into adulthood, where they become maladaptive. It's one thing to try to help, but I can't let you do disinformation on that level.

>(affects many more women than men -maybe because women are more neurotic

With some expected sexism. You really have no clue what you're talking about. It's like you've read wikipedia and just re-hash what you read there, and not well, at that.

>Anxiety is largely correlated with BPD though,

You'll find anxiety correlating with a lot. That didn't make you sound very informed.

>Anyways, I'm intrigued, can you please tell me more

Just in case you're too autistic to have figured it out on your own, but by attacking me, you've antagonised everyone else.

Some of these people have been here for over 40 threads, and you come here with your arrogance and misinformed knowledge, acting like you know better and actually care for others.

Please put your spaghetti back in your pocket and leave (or remove your name and pretend you're someone else) before it gets worse.
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>>36640705

Indeed. Who are you thinking about?
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>>36640717

How many total? Do they have names?

Have we talked before?
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>>36640798
Well, myself. Except now I think I'm much more aware of that and try to tame myself usually.

I just see myself in him.
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>>36640831
We haven't. I'm still not sure how many there are, but there's at least 7. And most of them have names.
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>>36640771

I'll use this for general education, don't take it personally.

>>36640771
>Read the original post, all I did was call you a moron (in a decidedly casual way), you decided to take offense

Reframing: making something sound like it wasn't what it really was, "All I did". Etc. Don't let people change the meaning of what they said after the fact, that's like playing chess and undoing your move after you found out it was a bad move.

>you decided to take offense

No, an insult was given, you decided to use it. My reaction has nothing to do with anything. I didn't take offense, at that, I just noticed you were insulting me and remarked that you did this because you were bitter. Absolutely nothing was done to you to warrant being insulted, and that's the main fact here, like it or not.

>You need to relax.

Another attempt at shifting the focus from you to me. You can't win at this, Ray. I've decades of practice at this type of rhetoric. I've heard it all many thousands of times. You'll just tire yourself.

>Are you virtue signalling yourself? It's a fucking 4ch thread, you darling little narcissist.

4chan is a platform that gives you the freedom to say and post almost everything you want. I'm within the rules, so I do what I want. And yes, there's definitely more virtue in what I do than in what you're doing. But you know that and it's possibly what makes you so bitter. This being 4chan is not a good excuse to justify your low standards, but keep promoting your mediocrity, I'm sure it'll work.

>If you shut your greasy trap, I'll shut my greasy trap. Look, I "insulted" myself too. Don't lose the plot.

I won't stop posting. As to the trick of "insulting" yourself so you're allowed to insult others, that doesn't work. Keep acting like you're acting and see how others react. You sorely need input from other people, so that's ideal.
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>>36640833

I do think you're more introspective, and that's a good thing. Just keep analysing yourself, even in others.

It's like a third person study of yourself. That said, to your credit, you weren't quite like him, because in your tantrums, I always saw more rage than mere attempts at attacking others, or attempts to sound like a better person. You were more honest and raw, in what I remember.
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>>36640885

Would you mind presenting them? You don't have to if you're not comfortable.

Know that you're not alone, some precious few anons have DID in these threads. Given the rarity of your condition, you'd all do well to stick together for support.
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>>36640785
I don't think you realize how deeply and irreparably narcissistic you come off as. Such is the problem with the tripfagging Nicks of the world.
Look, you want me to go through your excessive, personally motivated nitpicking for you? I will.
>You just lost the game. It seems you've obtained your information from poorly researched articles online, which often confuse NPD with BPD. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of Borderliners, in person, will know that your opinion on it is just ludicrous.
I hate to bust your bubble but you are arguing for the sake of arguing here. Both NPD and BPD are cluster B disorders. To suggest that BPD doesn't bear any similarities (SPECIFICALLY & LARGELY relating to manipulative behaviors, which is what YOU seem to take issue with) to NPD or any other cluster B disorder is fucking ludicrous. I stand by my statement. Please back your's up and lose the personal vendetta. You haven't really provided me with any opposing information other than scoffing like some poor idiot trying to bluff his way into winning whatever pointless personal war it is that you're obsessed with. Facts don't have time for devils' advocates.
>having BPD at the age of 13 would make you a statistical anomaly
BPD does not develop in infancy,
>>(affects many more women than men -maybe because women are more neurotic
I am a woman. It's unfortunate that r9k's woman hating meme has been so imprinted on your brain that you react in such a way so fast, but this is factual. I'm not here to write an essay, that is a personal opinion/musing of mine that I inserted. I sound like I'm rehashing? You sound like a snob who is totally obsessed with these little threads you run who projects his own obsession onto everyone else. For instance, the old Nick addage is that I'm "bitter". We'll ignore the flagrant misuse of this word and proceed onto the main issue, which is when you claim that I'm bitter because I'm jealous of your threads. Yes. Jealous. Of this. *
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>>36640975
I don't feel to comfortable doing that, but that's more because I'm somewhat paranoid about people finding out about me posting on here. I normally just post on /k/.

It's just that this week was more stressful than usual and I wasn't able to see my therapist because of work.
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>>36640785
>having BPD at the age of 13 would make you a statistical anomaly
Okay, so psychiatrists would be able to detect benign coping mechanisms? People would notice that there was something wrong? You would be diagnosed and inserted as a figure into a graph about BPD demographics?
Use your brain, please.
>Anxiety is largely correlated with BPD though,
Dude, I couldn't give less of a fuck about how I sound.It correlates with other things too so it's not important to mention? Jesus christ you are conceited.
Just in case you're too autistic to have figured it out on your own, but by attacking me, you've antagonised everyone else.

Some of these people have been here for over 40 threads, and you come here with your arrogance and misinformed knowledge, acting like you know better and actually care for others.

Please put your spaghetti back in your pocket and leave (or remove your name and pretend you're someone else) before it gets worse.
I've antagonized everyone? Really? You need the fuck off and quit speaking for every poster in this thread. You made this thread but you don't run it and this is what you don't seem to understand. You're under the impression that you have an army of loyal followers that will defend you tooth and nail.
>acting like you care for others
Who the fuck are you to pretend you know my intentions? I don't "pretend" to care for anything you arrogant piece of shit. This is the only sentence that I'm actually pissed off about. It's almost like you get a high off of "healing" vulnerable people and want that all to yourself. Empathy is for Nick, and only Nick.
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>>36640992
>To suggest that BPD doesn't bear any similarities

I never said that. Reread. I'm well aware they're comorbid at at a 25% rate. I am not going to correct you on every mistake you make, whether by design or by projection, Ray.

Unlike you, obviously, I have real life experience of such people, on top of being able to read books, when you can't even read a 4chan post correctly.

Not sure it's worth my time bothering with the rest of your post.

>BPD does not develop in infancy,

It does, but it's such a varied condition, you won't find a "classic" case. It develops in infancy, but is only diagnosed later, since it's a type of arrested development. That's why it's diagnosed later. That subtlety evaded you, that's why I don't trust you on reading articles off the Internet, you have no idea what you're reading.

>>36640992
>but this is factual.

>Prevalence
>The results of the largest, and recently published, National Institute of Mental Helath study21 suggests that the lifetime prevalence rate of borderline disorder is about 6%, and occurs equally in men and women.

http://www.bpddemystified.com/overview/

Write to them, apparently, the professionals and myself are wrong and you know better. Being diagnosed more doesn't mean women have it more, you need to learn about stats before you can use them without any kind of reflection.

I'm not actually convinced you're a woman. You're probably lying.

Keep revealing yourself, though.
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>>36641010

No problem. Can you tell us more about some of them?
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I'm feeling worried and guilty about that girl. I feel a little sick. It's as though I can't do anything right. I wanted to help, but I just made things worse.
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>>36641107
>Okay, so psychiatrists would be able to detect benign coping mechanisms?

Some, yes. Usually, neither parents nor the child know what's going on; it depends heavily on many factors. Borderliners who act out are more obvious than the ones who act in.

>>36641107
>I've antagonized everyone? Really?

Yes, really. Ask them.

>You need the fuck off and quit speaking for every poster in this thread.

Why would I leave my own thread? I don't speak for them, that's just my guess about them. Besides, you antagonise them on your own directly already, see Meta's reaction to you, and it's difficult antagonising Meta.

>You made this thread but you don't run it and this is what you don't seem to understand.

Pretty sure I'm running it.

>You're under the impression that you have an army of loyal followers that will defend you tooth and nail.

They're not my personal army but many are indeed loyal. And they would defend me, if needed, yes. I just don't really need defence for now.

>Who the fuck are you to pretend you know my intentions?

I'm someone who sees how you treat others. People here will not easily believe that you care about them when you talk to me that way. Get this: they know I care for them, I've proved this. You haven't proved anything, but you attack me and try to do what I do, so they'll look at you with suspicion.

>This is the only sentence that I'm actually pissed off about.

Because it's your biggest lie.

>It's almost like you get a high off of "healing" vulnerable people and want that all to yourself.

I can tell you want a piece of that pie... Flash news: I actually encourage people to help each other here, and I like to see it when it happens. But this isn't what you're interested in. The thread's popularity is a problem in that I don't always have time to handle everything, so I appreciate others helping anons.

cont.
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>>36640929
Uh oh, darling. I reframed? Here:
>schizo, I remember you samefagging over 300 replies the other night, nice one ya moron
If you want, I can do the full autistic analysis
>schizo: outdated term like fag, if you're insulted by that, I can't help you
>i remember you samefagging etc..
> ya moron: ya implies casualness, moron isn't even an insult, combined: it sounds rather endearing
What is your issue? Use your fucking brain for half a second and wonder why anyone would be even remotely "upset" at what you do in your spare time? How does this make any sense to you at all??
>No, an insult was given, you decided to use it. My reaction has nothing to do with anything. I didn't take offense, at that, I just noticed you were insulting me and remarked that you did this because you were bitter. Absolutely nothing was done to you to warrant being insulted, and that's the main fact here, like it or not.
I'll address your blatant misuse of the word "bitter" in the upcoming decade.
>Another attempt at shifting the focus from you to me. You can't win at this, Ray. I've decades of practice at this type of rhetoric. I've heard it all many thousands of times. You'll just tire yourself.
This specifically makes me want to gouge my eyes out. It's very hard to read. You sound like a copypasta.
On a more serious note, since you're wildly unaware, how old are you? Did your parents ever teach you the values of truth over "winning"? My god.
4chan is a platform that gives you the freedom to say and post almost everything you want. I'm within the rules, so I do what I want. And yes, there's definitely more virtue in what I do than in what you're doing.
You're a bit of a hypocrite, I don't think you realize this either. I doubt you ever will. And that last narcissistic punch was scary. Are you listening to yourself?
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>>36641107

Here's the thing: you are jealous, you want to be OP and whiteknight around, you're aware of this, you project that on me and attack me for it.

>Empathy is for Nick, and only Nick.

You'll have a hard time convincing anyone of this but you're welcome to try.

It's a shame, because I am really here to help, even you, even now. But I also believe that limits are important, and that you should learn a little respect before we can do anything constructive.

I hope you'll come around.
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>>36641135
I'm sorry, did you just 'reframe' my own argument, as you so gorgeously put it?
Please refer me to where I denied that BPD developed in infancy.
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This thread has gone to absolute shit. Just ignore one another if you have to, you're putting a pointless squabble ahead of the thread's intended purpose. People are asking for help and advice and instead you're wasting time with nonsense.
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>>36641192

Who?

>>36641289
>Uh oh, darling. I reframed? Here:

Reframing is basically this: calling someone a moron, then saying it wasn't really "calling someone a moron."

I didn't even consider the "schizo" bit. I never samefagged, though.

>wonder why anyone would be even remotely "upset" at what you do in your spare time?

I do wonder, but I think I know. Don't even try saying you're not upset. At this point, it's like you're shouting, "I AM NOT FUCKING UPSET, FOR FUCK'S SAKE," and expect us to believe you.

>I'll address your blatant misuse of the word "bitter" in the upcoming decade.

You sound bitter in every post.

>This specifically makes me want to gouge my eyes out. It's very hard to read. You sound like a copypasta.

I know it's hard to get a perspective that isn't your own conceited and self-indulging approach. Trying to devalue what I say to you won't remove its impact.

>Did your parents ever teach you the values of truth over "winning"? My god.

I win because I tell you the truth. That's what I learned through my parents "winning" the way you attempt. That's why you can't win.

>You're a bit of a hypocrite, I don't think you realize this either. I doubt you ever will. And that last narcissistic punch was scary. Are you listening to yourself?

Helping people is a virtuous thing to do. It doesn't change when I do it, it's still virtuous, no matter who does it. I don't care to sound virtuous, I care to do it, so I don't care to plainly say that I do things because I believe them to be good, or virtuous. It's very logical to me.

You couldn't pinpoint my hypocrisy if you tried, because it's only yours projected on me.
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Hey, been a while, haven't been sure what to say
I guess things are okay, no crying or anything
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>>36641314
>Please refer me to where I denied that BPD developed in infancy.

Right here:

>>36640992
>BPD does not develop in infancy,
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>>36641411
I was speaking to someone who has issues that complement my own. I never suggested that we be in a relationship or anything like that - indeed I said she needed to find someone else on more than one occasion - but I told her yesterday that I am in a relationship and now she's not speaking to me. We live on opposite sides of the world so I didn't anticipate anything like this. I suppose I should have just shut her down when she was flirting but I didn't see the harm. Once again, I'm reminded that I could have just kept lying and there'd be no problem. Trying to do the right thing just causes issues.
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>>36641386

4 minutes to get to your post. That's not much time. I respond to everyone, and even Ray is a person, and I do believe he needs help too. Just because he's angry and fighting doesn't mean he needs less help than others. That's just how it goes for now.

I respond to everyone else still.

If you doubt that my approach is worthwhile, ask Dan.
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>>36641432
Good to hear things are going better for you. Bit of a poor thread today what with the bickering between Nick and Ray but hopefully it'll sort itself out.
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>>36641432

I was wondering about you. You've gone silent on every level.

No more crying spells?
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>>36641467
>Trying to do the right thing just causes issues.

Tell me about it... Kek be praised. The nature of your relationship was, I imagine, in itself, proof enough for her.

If you want to keep doing the right thing, tell your actual girlfriend about it and see what happens.
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>>36641496
>Bit of a poor thread today what with the bickering between Nick and Ray but hopefully it'll sort itself out.

I'm not bickering. I'm engaging Ray on the terms he chooses. I did the exact same thing with Dan a year ago and it worked out eventually.
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>>36641143
So as he mentioned, there's a few of us. I guess I would be the more social/ outgoing one, but the others get mad at me a lot for doing things that they think are bad. Around the same age as me are the part that's good at more expressive stuff like art and dance, and the one who's always overly depressing and annoying. Then there's the two child parts, one who seems like she spends most of the time crying about everything and one who is pretty much always yelling at me and the others over how we "should" act and what's proper.

For the males, there's the one who's out most of the time, the military one, and the annoying know-it-all.
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Guys, I've looked into studying by correspondence. The degree is the same I'd get from university, it's recognised on the same level, so that's good.

The only problem is this: the average workload is 3.5 hours a day, every day, or 25 hours a week. And it costs 1300 bucks per semester, with a minimum of 6 semesters or so. I'm not completely sure I can afford that, but I may be eligible for a grant. Depending on how it'll lower my taxes, this could work.

On average, it'll take me 4 years to get a Bachelor.

What do you guys think?
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>>36641656

Is Lily you or an alter?
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>>36641442

Ray, did you just flee?

Explain yourself.
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>>36641496
Thanks, things are okay, nothing out of the ordinary
>>36641508
None since, but I guess in their short history they're usually at least a month apart
I just haven't had anything to say in a while

I've really got no one else to ask about this, I'm trying to sort out or put into words how I feel about sex so I can talk to my bf since it's been a few months and I feel I owe him some sort of explanation as to what's going on
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>>36641768
>I'm trying to sort out or put into words how I feel about sex so I can talk to my bf since it's been a few months and I feel I owe him some sort of explanation as to what's going on

How do you feel about it?
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>>36641700
That's me, but I guess you would call me an alter.
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>>36641789

Which one of you is the core personality?
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>>36641796
The male one that was talking earlier. He was getting overly anxious about sharing information, and it was starting to annoy me.
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Question about normalcy, addressed to everyone.

Do people go to cafes alone in order to be around other people, even if they don't talk to them? Suppose you want to study, and you like being around people, is that something you would do?
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>>36641855

So you took over?
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>>36641782
I'm gonna try and make this as un-gibberish as possible, no promises though
I only want to do sexual things with one guy, especially sex itself. But at the same time, I'm admittedly trying to have my cake and eat it too because I don't want to wait too long
Here's my hypothetical and where I think I might lose you:
I'm 19 going on 20, him a year older, if we were together for a year, some couples would find that long enough to be married if they were maybe 25-26, but we'd be 20-21 at the 12 month mark, who gets married at that age? You may be ready but it's just weird though it's the same commitment as the 25-26 year olds
tl;dr: I want to wait til I know it'll only be with him but I don't want to wait long, as conflicting as those two statements are
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>>36639847
I wouldn't mind an "everyone pile on Nick and help his issues" thread.
>>36638614
Thanks, didn't feel like sleeping so tried to help while I was still awake.
>>36640115
>I live on doing good things. It's a terrible condition.
I know exactly what you mean.
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>>36641862
Many people enjoy the bustle of a busy restaurant for writing or studying. There are even YouTube videos of nothing but cafe ambience. Reclusive as I am, I can even appreciate it.
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>>36641915
>I only want to do sexual things with one guy

Why?
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>>36641966

I've used that in the past.
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>>36641686
I'm not sure Nick. I'm bad with planning. What does the course entail though, I'm curious now?
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>>36642090

I assume a lot of reading. And going there once every 5 weeks for a day.
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>>36641873
Yes. I usually end up having to when it comes to talking about this kind of stuff. Or when it to talking in general.
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We don't owe her anything. She should be grateful that we spoke to her at all. It's fine. She can be friends and get over it, or lose one of very few friends she has. I'm more valuable to her than she is to me.
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>>36641994
As naive or old fashioned as I seem, I feel like it's special, like waiting for the right person means something
I don't know it's hard to explain
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>>36642171

When did you start existing?

>>36642194

Just do what is best for you. Limit her to written words, if you find that easier to handle.

>mfw two DID at once.
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>>36642231

That's a good enough explanation already.

It's what my LO did.
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I'm glad the thread survived, and I actually read through most of it and caught back up. Don't have Nick's patience, skipped most of the Ray being argumentative parts.

>>36641862
I can't help you with this Nick, live too far away from everything for this to ever happen for me. I do believe that some kinda background noise helps with studying, I usually run a tv while finishing the week's assignments.
>>36641915
You want the guy you marry to be the only one you sex, that's respectable.
>I'm 19 going on 20, him a year older, if we were together for a year, some couples would find that long enough to be married if they were maybe 25-26, but we'd be 20-21 at the 12 month mark, who gets married at that age? You may be ready but it's just weird though it's the same commitment as the 25-26 year olds
Who gets married at that age? Whoever wants to. My mom got married at 19, my dad was 27. Personally though, I would wait longer than a year to get married. Make it at least to 18 months. Both the major relationships I've had fell apart before that point. Have you talked with him about this? If he is okay with waiting on you to be with only you, you've hit a jackpot.
Don't have to answer this, but I'm curious because my last ex wanted to wait to be deflowered on her wedding night too, how far sexually have the two of you gone?
>>36642141
Sounds like a rough day
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>>36642246
I already told him about sex, but I feel like I'm being vague or confusing when it comes to boundaries or limits and I'm want to try and talk to him today but I have no idea how to or how to even start a serious conversation
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>>36642237
Maybe around when he was four,I think.
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>>36642398

Did something trigger your arrival?
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I am a severe masochist and I can't date anyone who won't mentally and physically bring me close to seath. I also have daddy issues and I'm lonely cat lady living by myself at 25. I only like men that want to kill me. this is mental issue right?
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>>36642505

Yes, this is a mental issue. Perhaps you're trying to relive the abuse in a way that gives you more control, a more "chosen" type of abuse.

Do you have an abusive past?

Facet, be strong.
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>>36642526
I have no abusive past. the only weird thing about me is my dad left at age 13 and I was in boarding school since age 7. I don't understand why I am like this or what to do, it kills me and I feel such shame in myself
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>>36642313
>You want the guy you marry to be the only one you sex, that's respectable.
Thank you
>Who gets married at that age? Whoever wants to. My mom got married at 19, my dad was 27.
That's kinda reassuring. Where do you live if you don't mind?
>Personally though, I would wait longer than a year to get married. Make it at least to 18 months. Both the major relationships I've had fell apart before that point.
I was throwing a year out there as a number, 18 months sounds good though.
>Have you talked with him about this? If he is okay with waiting on you to be with only you, you've hit a jackpot.
Not sure what you mean, the wording confused me a bit, sorry
I've told him about sex, but not everything that can be regarded as sexual
If you're asking about him and sex, he's had sex before, but that doesn't bother me
>how far sexually have the two of you gone?
Mild butt touching
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>>36642526
Listening, but not responding
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>>36642577

Neglect is abuse, voluntary or not. Boarding school since age 7, did you miss your parents?

What does being mistreated make you feel?
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>>36642593
>Mild butt touching

This is my band's name now.
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>>36642452
I really don't feel comfortable talking about that. We just came on here because of stress from work- related concerns.
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I have this uncontrollable desire to go around hugging people and saying I love them and everything is going to be fine.

But I don't actually go for it and had a psychotic breakdown recently.

It's like I have the option of being crazy or being completely crazy.
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>>36642596

Good, good.

>>36642624

You can discuss this instead, then.
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>>36642644

Any other strange things happening?
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>>36642606
I don't remember ever missing them. we've never been close. being hurt makes me feel useful and wanted and alive.
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I should work out in some time, meaning I'll be out for 2 hours or so.

What do we do, do we open a bar thread until I come back? Or move on to the next thread knowing I won't be around, or do we wait for me to get back?
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>>36642711

Feeling useful. Do you see sexual usefulness as very potent? Do you yourself have intense sexual needs?

Do you feel like life is not worth living if you're alone?
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>>36642665
Everything is strange.
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>>36642647
He already described it up here >>36632678
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>>36642593
I live USA, bumfuk nowhere. pic related, cow escaped fence.
Discuss boundaries with him, gice him clear lines not to cross.
>mild butt touching
cute
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>>36642623
Okay, I'm having trouble communicating with the person I'm in a relationship with, and I know communication is very important. How do I talk to him?
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>>36642785

Go ahead. Make a list.
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>>36642812

What can happen on the work place that others might notice?
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Hi Nick,well,i gonna directly to the point.

I'm a single mother son,she allways hard to deal with,but in these last four yers she's more hard than usual.If i want to do something she allways do some indirect criticism,allways criticizing me for every little thing that i do,it's a hell,sorry for being so vague,but i don't know express myself very good,and i'm not english,so sorry too for some gramatical error.

And she beats me currently,allmost every day,and,i'm seriously thinkin of try to kill her,i'm serious,i'm thinkin of this every time that she criticizes me.

I hope you can help me,i don't wanna go to prison,but i don't wanna live more days in that hell.

>pic related is what i think to do sometimes
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damn it's full already, again
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>>36642835
That's kinda cool. Now how the fuck do you get the half ton creature back in it's pen?
I'll try and do that, I gotta sort out my boundaries first, and maybe we'll find a way to ease into things. Problem being I'd be relying on him to push boundaries since I could never work up the courage to initiate anything
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>>36641686
You could reduce the workload drastically by doing some studying beforehand. So that's good, right?

I've been thinking about doing something similar with mathematics, but for now I spent most of my free time trying to learn languages.
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>>36642895
The main concern would be zoning out or switching. Especially since There's also somewhat of a concern that they might notice scars from past self-harm and suicide attempts, although I've been free of those for over a year now.
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>>36642836

Try writing down bullet points of the important elements you want to express, then you can subdivide these into smaller points, just to see the overall picture of what you want to do.

Kind of like mindmapping.

Speak to him normally, he'll get it.
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>>36642732
I find I do have really intense needs and I've not yet found someone who will go to the extremes I need them to go in order to feel fulfilled, like drugged raped etc.

I don't know why I feel like I need to be useful but it makes me happy

I hate knowing I enjoy something that would otherwise ruin someone else's life. urfh
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>>36642934

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/communication-success/201602/10-signs-narcissistic-parent

Your mother has issues. Let me know if this sounds like her.
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>>36642950
>by doing some studying beforehand. So that's good, right?

Not sure they'll make that available for me. It's the new system, they work in modules. I assume very specific books to read and all that.

I'll start in the summer, if I start, so I'll have a lot of time at that point.

What languages are you learning?
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>>36642962
>Especially since There's also somewhat of a concern that they might notice scars from past self-harm and suicide attempts, although I've been free of those for over a year now

Lily, have you ever used makeup? Foundation works great on scars. Just cover that stuff if there's no other way.
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>>36642717
I move for the bar thread. I could do with some livening up.
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>>36643026
Most the information still might be available online. I know for my degree I was able to pirate a lot of the textbooks, and I didn't even need the textbooks for half my classes.
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>>36642989

What strikes me as odd here is that you don't recall any abuse of the sort you crave.

Have you ever had a sexual relationship of the type you want?
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>>36642991
She's exactly like this,she reachs all the points.
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>>36643033
I've used make-up, but long sleeves would be much easier. It's just that summer is coming up and it'll be pretty hot and humid out, so I'll have to buy more linen shirts, or underarmor shirts for when I wear scrubs.
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>>36643037

All right. Works for me. That way, I get off duty and we still get to chat.

>>36643055

Provided I can get a list of what to read, sure. I'm not sure that is available. There may be other things required though, like written assignments during the semester and such.
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>>36642836
as straightforward as possible, most guts dont do subtle. if you say nothing's wrong we'll treat you like nothing is wrong
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>>36643055

Wait a sec, you're working at a psychiatric hospital or something, so you studied psychology? Or psychiatry?

I'd very much like to know the sort of subjects you studied.
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>>36642939
food. bucket of feed and itll follow you
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>>36643026
>I assume very specific books to read and all that.
Maybe you could find out what these are and get a head-start if you are concerned about time.

>What languages are you learning?
Russian and german. German is pretty good, bean learning for about a year now and at this point I can understand texts pretty easily. I only started with russian in autumn though. I'm using mostly memrise to build my vocabulary and whatever grammar exercises/texts I can get my hands on.

About the time, for example when I look at my learning stats on memrise, it says I spent about 60 hours learning in the last month and frankly I don't feel like I'm spending every waking hour studying (I work full time). So if you have the dedication, finding the time shouldn't be too hard.
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>>36643092

In this thread, people make fun of me for saying "everyone's parents are narcs," but I honestly believe there are many narcissistic parents out there.

You need to read about narc parents. Lots. Reddit has a whole section for it, it's called /raisedbynarcissists/.

You need to inform yourself so you can protect yourself. If you're a minor, you can even call for help. If not, the police is always an option, depending on the country.

If she hits you, though, you are allowed to hit her back. Or protect yourself, you don't have to take it. If she realises it won't be easy to abuse you, she may stop some of the abuse.
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>>36643138
>I'm using mostly memrise to build my vocabulary and whatever grammar exercises/texts I can get my hands on.

Surely you can buy some method book to complete that stuff.

You're very dedicated.
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>>36643059
my early sexual experiences were forced on me, like for instance some guys at schol pushed me against a wall and did things but I don't see them as abuse or at least they didn't upset me, just felt normal

I've had a few where the men try to make me feel fulfilled but it feels so fake on their end

I worry I can't genuinely love a person unless they are a true sadist who really wants to hurt me
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>>36642965
That's a good idea, I'm gonna have to memorize it because I don't want to look like a fucking dweeb pulling piece of paper out of my pocket but I could do that
>>36643098
Trust me I can't do subtle
And I'mnot gonna say nothing's wrong and get mad if he thinks nothing's wrong, I've heard about that shit too many times, plus it's stupid as fuck
>>36643113
Hmm, simple
I saw a cow once on a school trip, gave me a dirty look
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>>36643166
Thanks Nick,i really needed to talk with someone.
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>>36643203
>my early sexual experiences were forced on me, like for instance some guys at schol pushed me against a wall and did things but I don't see them as abuse or at least they didn't upset me, just felt normal

Well, it is abuse. As to them feeling normal, you may have dissociated and convinced yourself mentally that these thing were normal as a way to avoid freaking out.

What do you think about that idea?
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>>36642877
>anger
>sexual lust
>intellectualization
>greed
>mocking
>mindnumbing distractions
>capitalism
>controlling
>being pushy
>loneliness
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>>36643223

Zoidberg transformed into Laura, complete with a trip. People will say I'm a contagious form of cancer, but trips are really useful in this thread.

Welcome to tripdom.
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>>36643108
My degree is in psychology with a minor in biology. I helped proctor and abnormal psych class, but I also got pretty involved in helping my physiopsych professor with his research on memory and aging using rats.

But since I missed all the application deadlines for the grad schools I had wanted to go to I figured I should become an RN, so I'm doing that while working at the hospital part-time (kind of. 32 hours a week but it seems like overtime is the norm).
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>>36643166
As long as people agree with you when you suggest narc-like behaviour from their parents I don't see the problem. A lot of issues can stem from childhood and upbringing.

I know for a fact that mine weren't, however.
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>>36643224

I recommend reading a lot about narcissism, it will give you ways to defend yourself and understand what's going on. You'll also realise that most narcs are very similar (and some are different, covert).

You can share your stories here and we'll give you feedback; you need to hear what other people think, so you don't think it's "normal".
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>>36643233
It seems unlikely, I don't remember feeling anything when it happened, just more amusement or novelty, but you could be right, it's a possibility that I can't remember feeling bad about it?

I can not remember a time after I hit puberty where I haven't wanted to be hurt a lot, and I hit puberty at 10
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>>36643266
Most of the times trips are cancer, but I sometimes use one on /k/ for some topics.
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>>36643223
>gave me a dirty look
haha
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>>36643266
I actually didn't mean to do that, just forget it happened
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>>36643194
Yeah but I prefer to go on my own pace. So I just bought one book to explain the grammar a huge exercise book and I do the chapters how I feel like it.

Actually, I tried to start a group on /r9k/ for learning languages on memrise like a ... year ago I think. It didn't really catch on as I was the only one who stuck with it.
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>>36643288
Ok,i will again,thanks very much.
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>>36643223
>I'm gonna have to memorize it because I don't want to look like a fucking dweeb pulling piece of paper out of my pocket but I could do that

Why not, I've done it. My piece of paper had over 60 entries and a diagram. Complicated situations are complicated.
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>>36643251

Give me some examples of things that happen because of those.
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>>36643332
This idea interests me.
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>>36643389
People get hurt, opressed, shamed, limited, wasted and sick.

Humanity is sick right now.
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>>36643289
>It seems unlikely, I don't remember feeling anything when it happened, just more amusement or novelty, but you could be right, it's a possibility that I can't remember feeling bad about it?

Yes, you surely understand that rape and molestation aren't nice to others, right?
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>>36643330
>I actually didn't mean to do that,

You should use it, or Zoidberg, to conceal your womanhood.

>>36643332
>It didn't really catch on as I was the only one who stuck with it.

Everyone else gave up except for you. Should make you think.
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>>36643454

I meant in your life.
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>>36643481
I understand that, and it's a major reason why I really hate myself for loving those things. I fear also I am going to end up dead pursuing this. I am fucking broken ndjdjdbfj
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>>36643436
Well, I use either duolingo or memrise, both of these are free (although you can get "premium" on memrise, but the basic functions work in the free one just as well).

Both of these are websites, but they also have a mobile app. Duolingo is strictly oriented on languages, it gives you an overview of grammar, vocabulary, it has a tree of skills, it's very structured. Memrise is purely for memorization but it's great for vocabulary.

You can also add people on both of these, so that when you see that for example I got some points and you didn't do anything that day, it gives you some motivation. Both are pretty good if you have the time and dedication.
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>>36643538

Please use a name.

The fact that you know what the nature of those acts is shows you probably thought of them the same way before the assault. Right?

The brain has a way of arranging reality and memories to make it easier to survive.

Perhaps your brain went so far as to make you like it. There are many theories on this stuff. One is reliving the abuse in a way that makes you feel safe, in control, willing. If you want it, you're not a victim anymore, and maybe that's satisfying.

Have you considered seeing a specialised therapist for this?
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>>36643532
Why would I torture myself this way
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>>36643583

If anyone wants to learn French, know that it's my first language and I have a master's in it as well.
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>>36643380
If I pull out a paper he's gonna laugh at me...but I'll do it since writing is a good way for me to get my feelings clear
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>>36643601

I think there's a misunderstanding.

I was asking you about YOU, in your life, not in general.

Do you have other strange symptoms? Do you often miss the point of what people say?
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>>36643646

If you say you have something important to discuss, and then pull out a paper, he won't laugh. He'll know whatever's coming was important enough to be written down.
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>>36643652
Why would I torture myself listing all the ways I'm hurt and opressed and limited? I want to forget and transcend this

No I'm not autistic
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>>36643646
This
>>36643689
Is great advice. Was gonna say the same
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>>36643592
Sorry, using a name now.

I know what you're trying to say, but I *only* enjoy it if I feel I have no control. I absolutely hate the concept of being in control.

Is it possible this is genetic? I could see a specialist yes
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>>36643703
>Why would I torture myself listing all the ways I'm hurt and opressed and limited?

Why would you torture yourself by keeping all that shit inside for years and years and see no progress?

You may want to forget the past, but the past won't forget you.

The only way is to deal with it.
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>>36643722
>I know what you're trying to say, but I *only* enjoy it if I feel I have no control. I absolutely hate the concept of being in control.

Would you really enjoy being raped by a stranger in a situation where you chose absolutely nothing?

>Is it possible this is genetic? I could see a specialist yes

I doubt it's genetic. You didn't answer whether you felt this way about assault before your actual assault.

Do see a specialist. I would also be curious to know what they'd say.
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>>36643627
I've had this "Complete Learning" book of French for years and never got around to it, but it still interests me. I've been focusing on Japanese. It's the only thing I've been able to enjoy paying attention to as of late.
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>>36643627
I took a couple semesters of it in college, and a large portion of my milsurp collection is French rifles.
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>>36643782
From as far as I remember I remember being aroused by it, and that could extend to before my assault. I used to put myself in situations where id get bullied on purpose because I'd enjoy it, and feel weird and tingly, without knowing that was arousal.

The only thing I would regret from being genuinely raped would be the chance of stds, I cannot truly say that I would hate it because I know I would enjoy it on some level.

I don't know how to go about finding someone to tell this to without being put in a mental hospital
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>>36643784

I'll help if you start French.

I'm toying with the idea of using my voice for these threads.

I know the effects of my voice, but I'm a self-conscious about it.

I have a very good microphone I had bought for my LO. She made YouTube videos reviews old games. It was pretty cool.

I may do a vocaroo edition thread at some point. I don't know. I figure a human voice gives more warmth than mere letters.
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>>36643784
Yeah I spent some time learning japanese in high school, I did learn about 500 kanji and wasn't bad at it, but ultimately it's a HUGE time investment and I didn't get to use it as much as I thought to be honest so I forgot most of it. Well, I can still read the kanas, but unless you come into contact with the japanese language very often, it's hard not to forget.
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>>36643853
>and that could extend to before my assault.

But does it?

>>36643853
>I don't know how to go about finding someone to tell this to without being put in a mental hospital

If you're not a danger to yourself or others, you won't. Don't worry.

Do seek a therapist and discuss it. You can tell them anything casually. Plainly is best.
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>>36643863
I'd be very curious to hear your booming basso profundo.
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>>36643863
Why are you self-concious about your voice? I have a terrible redneck accent, worse than even L4D2's Ellis.
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>>36643912
>>36643942

I have a deep voice. Bassy and radio-like, I suppose. Maybe I'll try later tonight, after my work out.

Tell me about vocaroo, how long does it keep the files?

How long can a file be?
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>>36643942
It only makes sense to be a bit self-conscious about your voice. I fucking hate the sound of mine.
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>>36643863
I'd be interested to hear how you sound. I've used my voice a few times in these threads now.
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>>36643942
>L4D2's Ellis.

LO and I played this stuff so much. I miss slaughtering zombies with her. Believe it or not, she was the one into zombies, not me. I never cared much for zombies before. I miss her so much. End me.
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>>36643892
I think it does. it's hard to say for certain as I have trouble remembering that much about my childhood, but all I *ever* remember is enjoying being shouted at, even from my parents.

I'll look into therapy, although I fear the only way around this is to just abstain from sex entirely as I don't enjoy sex unless I'm being severely hurt. and the thought of that makes me depressed beyond belief
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>>36643976
At least you don't have speech disorders. Sounding like a retarded faggot kind of takes out all interest to interact over voice alone.
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>>36643975
>>36643986
Maybe this'll end up spawning a radio program.
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>>36643986

You have, but you're an actor. I'm not, I'm the rawest person.
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>>36643942
This is interesting. I have a typical eastern european accent, I sound like a soviet soldier from a WW2 movie. So we've got what?

A radio voice.
An american redneck accent.
A soviet accent.

This could shape up to be interesting.
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>>36643993
>but all I *ever* remember is enjoying being shouted at, even from my parents.

Anything else you remember from your parents?
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>>36643689
>>36643709
Alright I guess
I'm gonna look like such an idiot
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>>36644013
>a radio program.

Nick's Nightly Therapy

Then I can go on patreon, whoohoo.
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>>36644024
>This could shape up to be interesting.

We should kill zombies. (Or narcs.)
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>>36643975
no clue never done one
>>36643976
Heard my voice in a friend's mic echo, was "holy shit i sound dumb and rednecky as fuck"
>>36643990
Picked that trying to find something people here'd have heard
>>36644024
nice
>>36644042
same
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>>36644042
>I'm gonna look like such an idiot

If you forewarn, I guarantee you won't.
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>>36644032
Not much. they used to smack me when I was naughty and my dad had real anger issues but never beat me. I was put in boarding school early enough that I don't remember too much. They argued all the time but nothing unusual. My mother was wonderful to me, and my dad left at 13 but that didn't impact me much

This is why I think it's genetic... there's nothing traumatic that has caused this
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>>36644056
Remember us and your humble beginnings when you're being interviewed by Charlie Rose.
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>>36643986
how do i vocaroo?
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>>36644098
Go to the website, hit record and speak into the mic
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Why am I obsessed with being a ninja?
I've even started my daily exercise of hanging upside down
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>>36644077
>there's nothing traumatic that has caused this

It doesn't need to be identified as traumatic to be traumatic.

I'll make it simple for you:

>smacking
>anger issues
>argued all the time

All these fall under the abuse category. You may be surprised, but that's how it is. No time now to go into details but that's enough to cause damage.

Your issue isn't of a genetic nature.
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>>36644087

I'd just faint on camera.

>>36644174

I don't know if you're serious, but kek be praised.
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>>36644172
Fuck doesn't work from mobile. Will try on pc after thread is kill
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>>36644226
>nobody takes my dream seriously
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>>36644227
Not true: I only ever record using my phone since I don't have a proper mic
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>>36644250
Apparently my phone is potato
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>>36644247

Don't hang yourself! Dammit!
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>>36644247
I take your dream seriously.
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>>36644294

Bar thread. Don't start it before we crash, unless bar thread is about to die.
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>>36644200
Ok, I'll accept that. I had thought that was just normal.

Do you think it's worth trying to fix? is there a safe outcome for me or should I just continue as I am, withdrawn?
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>>36644274
There's a way around your potato problem: you'll see it says
>Or upload?
Thus, use whatever audio recorder exists on your phone then upload the file.
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>>36644274
Use upload
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>>36644313

Yes, it's worth fixing. You deserve a loving relationship, you deserve love. You deserve to be able to enjoy receiving love.


http://www.blueknot.org.au/Resources/General-Information/Types-of-child-abuse

Read all this. Think about your past from a new angle.
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>>36644313
It's worth fixing. The way things are now, as you described them, really aren't healthy and are likely having a negative impact on your quality of life.
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>>36644320
>>36644336
Thanks, didnt notice. Was planting potatoes earlier, which is why posts were so far apart this thread. Waiting on thread to die to shower.
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It would be fun to see if anyone could place my accent.
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>>36644303
Thank you! Your kind words have encouraged me to break into my neighbors house steal his children and raise them as future shinobi!
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>>36644376
You shouldn't steal children. If your goal is to be a ninja, you have to find a teacher to show you the path first.
>>
Thread soon to die, can we break the record of 616?
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>>36644509
Lets try
original comment here
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>>36644349
>>36644343
It's not necessarily having a bad impact on my life. I've arranged for someone to break my arm. For some reason that turns me on. I guess that could be damaging. I can't tell anymore
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>>36644399
My path noble, my cause righteous! I will embark on this quest alone If I must.
And with this weapon forged in the thunders of Bishamon I will be unstoppable
>>
We can do it easily.
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>>36644534
I think that going that far is a problem. I wish I could help you but I don't know what to say
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>>36644537
My wonderful weapon desu
>>
For the win.

Ravioli.
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Last thread in the catolog...
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