Is psychology really a meme degree?

>>36601805
Yes, you need to get at least a masters to do something with it. The field is oversaturated with workers, and it can't be used at any other job.

I don't know, really. I always thought it would be an interesting job. Could make a difference in people's lives and whatnot, if you weren't shit. Yes, I know most are. Most patients are probably also shit. Lots of schooling , though. I bet it's real tough to find a job afterwards. I guess you could get into Hr somewhere easily enough.

Everything is a meme degree. Even your life is a meme degree. That's why I dropped out last semester. I was living a meme dream getting a meme degree.

You have a slight chance to work with some interesting problems, but the most fun field of psychology is also the least funded. Turns out gubment would rather smash electrons than pay you to torture monkeys. Don't go in expecting money. You will be counting the number of times a mouse flops around when you hang it by his tail every hour until you get your PhD and then you have to beg for money and come up with experiments to keep making a measly 80k/yr. It's not bad money of course, but considering the effort and time requirement it's not worth it.

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>>36601805
Yes you fucking dumb brainlet faggot

>>36601805
Yes

>psychology and english major if you want double worthless, like me

>>36601805
I work at a restaurant as a cook. I never went to college.

There are two waiters here, a man and a woman, who both have psychology degrees.

I make more money than either of them.

>>36602081
>a measly 80k/yr

???

How is that measly, that's like in the top 20% of income earners.

>>36601805
No, if you go on to at least a masters degree

>>36601805
I sure hope not - I get mine in less than 2 weeks.

>>36601960
>The field is oversaturated with workers
Is that there is 18% job growth for psychologists and mental health counselors?

>>36602081
If you're doing research for a university, you'd make a lot more than 80K once you start tenure track and even more once you hit full professorship.

>>36602463
>18% growth for psychologists/counselors?

There's a few problems with this statement and its implication that a high % growth means you're fine.

1. 18% growth is for both jobs put together. So you could have very few openings for psychologists but many for school councilors making 40k. I'm guessing you don't want to be that second option.

2. Yes, jobs grow, but how much of that growth is towards entry-level positions? That 18% isn't all yours for the taking as someone right out of college

3. Job growth % vs total growth. Nursing is expected to make a 16% increase over the next ten years, but there will be far more nursing positions that need to be filled compared to psychology.

4. Related to #3, it isn't about the total relative growth. Its about how many people are trying to enter the market with psychology degree compared to the total number of open positions. If there is a profession with 100 openings and its expected to have a 100% job growth, that extra 100 positions aren't going to help much if 10,000 people are still applying.

>>36602726
I don't know how many applicants there are, but the 18% seems to be for both separately. Also the entry doesn't seem to be that hard, just the internship and license you'd get during your program.

Sources:
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/psychologists.htm#tab-1

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/community-and-social-service/mental-health-counselors-and-marriage-and-family-therapists.htm

>>36602911
> Also the entry doesn't seem to be that hard, just the internship and license you'd get during your program

Don't you need a phd to get a license?

>>36603023
I'd say yes for the most part. Even if it isn't a hard requirement, the test is set up that's it's pretty hard unless you're coming out of a program for it.

The clinical hours you rack up in the program is far more important.

>>36602390

Hourly that's like $30. You can hit that with an associates, and it's a much easier job. That's in real dollars do, not aussie or some other monopoly money.

I don't know about a lot more, it tops out at $110k, and being a professor doesn't sound fun unless you get to only teach grad students.

>>36601805
Its a meme degree, but its now backed empiracally by neuroscience. Its not a meme, because now it can be measured.

Yes. The only job I've been able to get with it is as a case worker at a mental health agency. All the other "jobs" are just different names and variations on how much you do as far as your job duties. All of them entail doing intake assessments, linkage, referral, treatment planning, supportive counseling, etc. My job involves more linkage and referral. The "intake specialist" involves more assessments. Crisis Coordinator involves more linkage and referral. Treatment Specialist involves more treatment planning. Do you get my point?

This is why I'm working on my master's and working on getting certified in both therapy and the many certifications involved. It's because the case worker fields are constantly shit on by everyone else despite that everyone is flat out told that it's an ethical violation to dump paperwork onto the case workers just because they don't want to do it. Nothing is done. And the industry wonders why the hell the turnover rate is the highest in the mental health agency.

>>36604093

But it could be measured from the start. That's when it was made a science, when they started measuring behavior. Or is chemistry just now becoming a science too since it's backed by physics? Using neuroscience to back psychology is fucking retarded anyway. Not everything has a nervous system but still has behavior. Fungi is a perfect example of this.

>>36604223
Why go into psychology if you only consider therapy and counseling type shit? That's like studying polymer science to work as the guy overseeing bottle filling at coca-cola.

>>36604232
It was generalized, not measured

>>36604232
>Or is chemistry just now becoming a science too since it's backed by physics?

No, but physics is an integral part of chem, although, most of the topics in chem are covered on technically, in terms of physics macroscopic scales.. We are talking about atoms and molecule interactions, not subatomic particles.

>>36604263
I don't like doing research, and I enjoy the supportive counseling that I do so I can to be able to do it "professional" under the standards of mental health documentation. The difference is that at the bachelor's level, I cannot legally do anything like CBT, DBT, SFBT, etc. since they're labeled under "professional counseling" (I do it anyway, I just don't document it as such).

Any non-trade profession is a meme

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>>36602065
>implying being a NEET isn't the real meme life

tfw psychfag in grad school