MBTI thread: Stop making me post the OP always edition

I'm an ENTP and I can't get anything fucking done. I'm tired of it. I've finally worked myself up to making a therapy appointment because I'm pretty sure I have ADD. Gonna try and get some adderall and actually learn a real skill and get off this toxic fucking board.

>>36460580
INFP and pic is basically relevant. I'd rather not be a part of this world if it's going to suck this much.

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What are we even supposed to talk about these days?

We've gotten through so much material, it seems as if we'd only be repeating ourselves these days.

INTJ looking for qt ENFP/ENTP

>>36460678
Gotta account for the many users who joined between now and last time this thread was posted.

>>36460679
Are you honestly good enough for an ENFP/ENTP though? What have you accomplished, are you ugly, autistic, etc?

>>36460699
I don't really care if there's many users or not, I want a place where I feel I can belong. Reading all the shit you guys posts relating to this makes me feel comfy.

>>36460580
INTP here, not an atheist or communist though. I'm not an angsty 15 year old anymore.

>>36460699
Who cares about them? After all this time it's at most 2 or 3 users per 500 post threads. Just make a sticky or something for them.

>>36460716
something like this

>>36460716
/r9k/, a place for friends(tm)

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>black ENFP yet hate SJW
The fuck? Should I retake the test because these results are from last year

>>36460749
wtf are you doing, yeah, retake it

>>36460764
I don't get it? Some people said I should enjoy SJW, but I only hate the bat shit insane far leftists. I can usually make friends with just about anyone. Hell I even convinced a far right white nationalist friend one time to just stop worrying about things you can not control and to just shut the fuck up meet a fucking white girl and have some damn kids if you want to save your race so much.

>>36460787
that's not really the problem, it's more like why would a non-mistyped ENFP even come here.

>>36460749
You don't HAVE to hate SJW shit, this isn't a fucking horiscope. ENFP's are very in-tune with their empathy, and have a lot of compassion for suffering. It's possible you don't see SJW shit in that perspective. A lot of SJW shit is legit crazy and makes no sense. If you have trouble empathizing with anyone who claims to be oppressed, though, you're probably not an ENFP.

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>>36460580
>tfw INFP
t-this shit is just funny pseudoscience right?

>>36460831
I see, I'll retake the test again.

>>36460679
ENTP qt here, I will break you with my four dimensional thinking. It excites me, it amuses me, it turns me on... the banter.

Im enfp. Im good at stuff. Motivated enough but yeah its very true that we put way to much our selves into our work/relationships and expect a bit to much out of others but to other enfp's trust me knowing is half the battle and dont forget to take a break once in a while

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>>36460829
enfps are apparently the most introverted of the extroverts, of course a couple would have time to browse boards.
>>36460842
I've typed as one for a long time and I never cry, but I may be an exception. I feel a lot and It makes me feel alive, I keep too myself mostly unless provoked but I'm actually quite happy to be an INFP

>>36460842
Meh its up to u. If it helps u rationalize its not but if it cause u harm dont worry too much about it. U gotta take psychbabble with a grain of salt

>>36460580
>INFP
>that pic isn't even an exaggeration
llolol

>>36460955
>the most introverted of the extroverts
As an ENTP, I feel like this is me. I don't like being in the center of a crowd unless everyone is paying attention to me. It's terribly uninteresting to float from person to person at a party or event and just talk about pointless shit. I crave social interaction, but I want that interaction to be deep and personal, or I'd just prefer to be alone.

>>36461000
Czech'd enfp-haggot here,again. I feel ya breh its hard to float when people only get half of what ur talking about id rather one person completely understand than everyone be kinda on the same page

>>36460955
>I never cry
I cry a lot when I'm alone in my room though. But I feel like this is more due to my sheltered upbringing and not due to some inherent vice that dooms be to be this way forever

Fellow INFPs, why are we even here in this place?

>>36461067
Whats ur mbti?.?.

>>36461083
Cuz u have just enough curiosity to lurk but not enuff balls to do anything about ur situation

>>36461060
What do you crave in a social interaction? What's your goal when you're in an enjoyable conversation? What moment gives you that sweet dopamine hit, and what does it feel like?

When I'm in an enjoyable interaction with someone, I'm always waiting for that moment when I perfectly explain a concept that they suddenly understand intuitively. The look of surprise and subtle awe on someone's face when they say "I never thought of it that way" just gets me off. It's like a shiver of giddy excitement~~~

>>36461096
INFP my dude
I'm not that much of a failure either

>>36460580
>tfw typed as an ESFP 2 years ago
>typed as ISTP/INTP now

wtf happened. I feel like that phase was a facade. I went through an existential crisis, so I guess that must be it.

>>36461116
That's pretty accurate. I feel like a failure too, but a different kind of failure to robots.

>life's boring as shit
>everything's a chore
>still have no ambition

Being an ISTP is suffering

>>36460580
i'm an INFP
help me

>>36461139
Your type doesn't change. Probably. This stuff isn't very scientific, so it's hard to say. But you probably aren't that special, and your type probably hasn't changed. What's likely is that you:

1. Didn't understand MBTI/function stacks/yourself well enough back then
2. Had a severely underdeveloped function that you have since corrected

It's probably a mix of both of these things. It's possible you still don't know your type. I suggest reading about the functions and whether they describe you, and not trusting the tests.

>>36461000
Nice numbars, I have an ENTP friend and we usually get along - I just stay at my house though so we don't hang out too much, I like that they usually have egos - since I seem to have lost mine.
>>36461067
I can understand that, I've shed a couple tears throughout my younger adolescence - but now I've become more robotic, but in a good way - I still have those big highs and lows but I can power through them with music I love and the knowledge that I have before.
I also talk to myself while looking in the mirror and have an unhealthy image board addiction,
fun fact.

>>36461174
If you're actually a sensor normie shouldn't you enjoy your monotonous routine and boring orderliness?

>>36461223
It's more like getting pleasure out of a routine, in that you are able to predict and control what happens, but knowing that it is the most boring shit ever and doing nothing to change it. Rot and decay sounds about right.

>>36461220
>I also talk to myself while looking in the mirror and have an unhealthy image board addiction
me too anon, me too
people usually think of me as distant but when I show my feelings they usually ridicule their intensity

>>36461126
Meh i was bustin chops i dont think infps are as bad as people say ur an introverted version of what i consider on of the better types. Nothing wrong with being an empathic person we just dont let things roll off our shoulders as easily. Our difference is just that u (going solely off type) dwell and conteplate more where i would lash out or act upon impulse. I would like to meet more infps my best friend is an infp and my other is an isfp we get along very well. Idk what im trtin to say is u guys get an unwarranted bad rap just cuz someof u are pussies but most are quite intelligent almost to much for our own good. Infps have more going on behind the scenes that most people view as a weakness but i believe is interesting and beautiful. Dick sucking mode deactivated

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>>36460829
>>36460831
Retook the test and got ENFP again. I read this too https://www.personalitypage.com/ENFP.html It kinda makes sense especially the part about, " They have a strong need to be independent, and resist being controlled or labelled. They need to maintain control over themselves, but t'hey do not believe in controlling others

>>36461124
Exactly i have alot to say usually and when im done and waiting for a response i can tell right away if i got through or not and when my energy is met and appreciate d is when i feel most satisfyied. I also like when my views are challenged in an engaging curious manner and hate blind unenthusiastic scepticism. U know how u can immediately tell when ur talkin to drone... Kills my egoboner immediately

Damnit thread killed all thnxz to another enfp :)

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>>36461265
I've noticed this too, I'm usually either all or nothing - most people In my personal life prefer me when I'm stoic and essentially a do gooder NPC, which I can respect - I've always liked good willed characters.
Plus I think It's badass that I'm fighting most my human instincts to become what I prefer.
I'd recommend online friendships a lot,
People online are a lot more accepting of our extreme nature when its behind a connection.
I can say all the homoerotic things on here I want and people usually take it as compliments.

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>>36461367
This thread was dead from the beginning. There's nothing to talk about.

>>36461405
So, how about this weather?

>>36461405
Lol i know i always click these threads but really theres nothing really to talk about except some shit bout how so n sos type is lame or a bunch of e*** suckin eachothers long satisfying sexy beautiful cocks

>only ever gotten ISTP and INFP
>both suicide tier
why am I still alive

>>36461410
Been nice today. Delawarian here skated wiff my fwend all day then played sum yugioh with him and his lil bro. Got home round 6 and got a lil drunk still cant sleep cuzza it

>>36461427
Because you aren't confident enough to know that you want to die (?)

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>>36461424
The only valuable posts I've seen these days are certain anons giving quick rundowns in plain language about behavior that the functions elicit. Here's such a screenshot from an earlier thread.

>>36461319
>>36461424
No offense but your english is terrible and you should probably lurk or only post when sober.

>>36461427
Eye downt know anon but is there any reason u could be glad ur not dead about? Any new games u like comin out? Book or manga looin 4ward to?? Hmm genuinely curious :)

>>36461468
Ahh well im enfp what r u

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>>36461468
So as a matter of fact, I'm just going to repost from here on out.

>>36461529
I'm not convinced you have enough original blox to keep it up!

>>36461477
Dubs.checked. and nah ill just keep doin my thang

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Why INTJ doesn't like arguing with INTP

>>36461529

>>36461543
I have plenty.

>>36461560
Post some ENTP shit? These are fun.

>>36461492
Too poor to buy new games, let alone run them on my outdated pc, and although I don't watch anime/read manga, I will not judge you for it :)

>>36461560
Keep posting my curiosity has been kindled mate

>>36461459
You hit the nail right on the head m8

How do I determine if I'm ESTP or ENTP, I think I'm ENTP but every test I've taken (even the cognitive functions one) says I'm ESTP.

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Why INTJs like 4chan.

In my opinion, 4chan is good because

1. No need for an account. I hate having to sign up for stuff--especially if I am not acquainted yet with the service. Even still I'm reluctant to become a member of sites I frequent.
2. No filter. I can post basically what ever I want. I can insult people, I can express politically incorrect ideas, and I won't be threatened with bans or called out on petty shit.
3. Good site design. Threads are easy to read and reply to, and there's plenty of content to view.

>>36461560

>>36461580
If I have some, I might.

In lieu of saved posts, I will tell you a bit about my ENTPs.

One of them is a white friend of mine who I've known for maybe 8 years now. When he was younger he liked to lie, especially about stuff pertaining to knowledge. The kind of lie you tell to less smart people, like how Abe Lincoln was an avid golfer, because they don't know any better and are very gullible anyway. Nowadays he's very well read, as he's always been, but he's into a lot of leftist philosophy--critical theory and all that--Foucalt, Derrida, Fanon, and so on. We're Juniors now. He was the smartest guy I knew besides myself, and he still probably is. He loves traveling and has an Italian fiance.

The other ENTP is an edgy, somewhat emotionally turbulent, smart but lazy teen (19yrs) who loves vidya. He's gay and a furry.

The first guy is a Gemini, the second guy is an Aquarius. They bore out their signs well.

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>>36461698
More of that conversation that INTP and INTJ are having. This is all in reverse order.

>>36461666
Why do you think you're an ENTP?

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>>36461714
The difference between Ti (INTP) dom and Ni (INTJ) dom thinking

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>>36461727
More Ti vs Ni

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i just wanna live life as close to death as possible and have a harem of hot bitches and then i could die happy

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>>36461739
A good comment by Fashy in reply to that post

>>36461715
I'm not really an athlete and I'm a very messy/ lazy person (always procrastinating, never planning). Also, I feel like I've just coasted through life without doing much, rather I'm not very proactive. Also ESTP's are supposed to be lady killers, many people tell me im charming, but idk mate I aint exactly chad pussy slayer like many people in this board tend to claim about ESTP's.

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How to spot fake or normie xNTx online

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>>36461580
Just found one. It's about being a extravert that doesn't fit in.

>>36461803
What excites you? Are you fascinated by new ideas? Are you on wikipedia late at night, 9 tabs open, trying to better understand some obscure concept? Are you attracted to people who suck you in with the complexity of their thoughts and perspective?

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Fe, Fi, and ENFP

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>>36461893
More Fe vs. Fi

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The problem of typing NEETs

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>>36461917
More on that, how personality tests make it hard to answer with silly questions.

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>>36461910
fo fum

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Ideal career paths for INFPs

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>>36461910
Being considerate, Fi vs Fe

>>36461940
Can confirm. Tried being a ski instructor once and it was very bad.

>>36461862
Yup. I only fit in here until I figured out how2normie after my mom died and I had to either take care of myself or suicide.

The cyborg idea is true in so many respects. I feel like I'm a permanent fence-sitter. I'm honestly so fucking plagued by my devil's advocate neutrality that I'm not even sure what I really believe sometimes.

>>36461883
The potential for new new experiences excites me. I'm a very open minded individual, I am fascinated by new ideas but never to the point of doing exhaustive research, I tend to just acquire a general understanding, put it in my knowledge bank and call it a day. As for your last question, yes I am, the majority of the people that allure me tend to be very intelligent and always have something refreshing to say regarding the world at large and the nuances of everyday life.

>>36461985
You certainly sound like an ENTP.

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>>36461960
How could you have messed that up? Aren't you passionate about skiing? Don't you like getting other people into your passion? What went wrong?

>>36461962
>I'm honestly so fucking plagued by my devil's advocate neutrality that I'm not even sure what I really believe sometimes.
Do you mean you constantly get into arguments you shouldn't with your normie friends?

>>36462041
The problem was the children. Teaching adults was fine because they really wanted to learn and I was happy to share my passion with them. But kids, they are terrified and they don't want to be there. You're trying to force them and bargain with them to get them to learn something they don't want to. It's soul destroying.

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>>36461959
Which are the most empathetic types?

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>>36462059
More on Fe

>>36462058
I see. But otherwise, you really like children, don't you? I like kids younger than 7, generally. They are very sincere and good-natured.

>>36462093
I wouldn't say I like children. I don't mind being with children but they never seem to like me. I don't think I'm fun enough. I definitely don't do well when I have to be authority figure for them though.

>>36462041
>Do you mean you constantly get into arguments you shouldn't with your normie friends?

What I'm describing is how resistant I am to see almost any issue in black-and-white terms. I'm committed to context and addicted to different perspectives, and when I see most issues as shades of grey it makes it difficult for me to sit down and tell you what I actually think is going on.

I used to get into arguments with normies, but now I just argue with my ENTJ friend. Neither of us take anything personally and it's great fun.

>>36462114
Cont.
If a child looked like they enjoyed my company I would enjoy it, but I don't like forcing my presence on people who don't like me.

>>36462028
The problem is I'm not really much of an "inventor' so I'm like "wtffff brooooo"

>>36462135
I'm not a fan of that as a label, either. "Inventor" really implies some amount of action, doesn't it? I prefer just "inventive". If you find a passion project that you can actually stick with, you'll see this.

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INFP "redpill". Will post a funny reaction or two to the post.

>>36462114
>>36462132
>I don't mind being with children but they never seem to like me
Ah. Children and animals typically like me. I don't know why they don't you. Do you look intimidating, or are you always stressed out or emotionally imbalanced?

> I definitely don't do well when I have to be authority figure for them though.
Maybe you don't take the right approach to authority. But then again, I don't know your type or how you think about this stuff.

>>36462122
>What I'm describing is how resistant I am to see almost any issue in black-and-white terms. I'm committed to context and addicted to different perspectives, and when I see most issues as shades of grey it makes it difficult for me to sit down and tell you what I actually think is going on.
Well said. I can definitely see where you're coming from. I also am deeply aware of nuance and am not satisfied with seeing things as clear-cut. Take this last election cycle, for instance.

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>>36462178
Amusing INFP reaction.

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What type was Peter Parker (Spiderman)?

>>36462178
Animals like me, but I think I'm too introverted to be a social child friendly person. I imagine I would get on very well with a kid who was like me. I probably treat children like adults, and overthink my interactions.

I think the authority problem is because I am too submissive. I feel very uncomfortable when I have to make decisions that effect other people, because I might not be able to keep them happy. This effect seems to lessen when I am more comfortable with someone (when I'm more comfortable I'm better able to express what I actually want).

>>36462178
infp here
wow not only is mbti super pseudoscience, someone actually took the time to write out everything they dont like about infps.
its like making up facts about superheroes

p.s. intjs are the most autistic

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The kind of woman NF and NT men want.

>>36462221
>I probably treat children like adults
As do I, and I think everyone should do this. I hate when women baby talk, especially when the recipient is anything but a literal infant. I think it's disrespectful and it also probably hinders mental growth.

>I feel very uncomfortable when I have to make decisions that effect other people
Okay, I gotcha. Yeah, you'd definitely hate leadership then.

>>36462247
>being this upset
lel. by the way, that post was written by a sensor.

>>36462059
>intj most empathetic type

every intj ive ever known says really rude things to people and they dont even care or know what they did is wrong. literally aspergers: the personality type.

>>36462178
I'm curious: What kind of content do you typically consume? How do you like to learn about a subject you're interested in?

When you form an opinion, do you like to listen to a lot of opinions and weigh options, or do you just enjoy looking at data and deriving ought from cold, hard, is?

>>36462247
I guess we suspect / are told it's nonsense. But it's still entertaining nonsense? And it feels nice to belong to something sometimes.

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>>36462270
There's a difference between courtesy and empathy, you know. We aren't particularly fond of tact, as we prefer to be blunt and say things as we see them. We prefer to be completely honest. Other types who are far more sensitive and used to people beating around the bush will of course be taken aback and label us as "rude".

The truth is, we understand what people feel, or else we try to understand it, and can't help but give advice where we see fit. We have no trouble listening to people and are deeply touched by the genuine suffering of others.

Or so I think, based off personal experience and some reading.

what's best pair for INTP desu?

>>36462308
I don't really see it this way. There's not much science to be found here, but that doesn't mean it isn't useful. People treat this shit like a horoscope, but it doesn't exist to tell you how to act - it tells you why you might act the way you do.

The MBTI model does not have proper predictive capabilities and as such has been more or less scrapped. Why don't you focus on the OCEAN/Big 5 model instead, it has actual value.

>>36462355
I guess I just like that I can see so much of myself in the label. Makes me feel.. understood?

>>36460580
>ESTP
>Normie
Being an extrovert doesn't automatically make you a normie if you still hang out with other autistic people for fucks sake.
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

t. neuroatypical estp

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>>36462303
>What kind of content do you typically consume?
I'll speak in 4chan terms first, and see where I get with this post, then maybe branch out from there.

I first got to 4chan through /gif/ for surreptitious porn. I ended up on /r9k/ at some point much later and was touched and saddened by a lot of the sad stories that people posted. I remember in particular a thread about severe social anxiety.

Stopped going to 4chan for a while until I went to /pol/ at the end of last spring. I was getting the sense that politically, the opinions I used to hold and that everyone around me says are right were actually wrong. I started seeking out alternative opinions in order to find the truth--because I'm not committed to ideology, any particular position, or even being right--I'm committed to the truth.

After /pol/ outlived its usefulness, I left and went to /g/ in order to learn about personal computing, free software, digital privacy and freedom of the web.

Then /g/ outlived its usefulness and I moved to /fa/ in order to develop my personal style, as I was in desperate need of a wardrobe change. I learned that, as well as gained a general sense of aesthetics. It was very fascinating learning what made objectively good and bad fashion, as well as seeing how these also depended on the physical appearance of the wearer.

Then /fa/ outlived its usefulness, and now I'm back on /r9k/. I learn about how other peoples' lives are awful. I go here in order to learn about personality, my personality. The first part pertains to the nihilistic view of life you gain from /pol/ conspiracies, that the world is objectively worse than it had been and it's only getting worse, and there's nothing that can be done to stop it--that our generation was fucked from the get-go, and our lives are irredeemably soiled.

I've always been interested in personality stuff. MBTI, Enneagram, Astrology, Numerology, Palmistry, Tarot. I have a huge need to understand myself & find my place in the world.

>>36462366
I think you can correlate them to a pretty high degree. MBTI is much more rigid and probably less useful academically, but humans are social animals and fucking love tribalism, so it's a lot more fun to label people. MBTI is watered down. It's the Hollywood remake with fun, snappy, sell-able archetypes.

>>36462401
See? Tribalism.

>>36461962
>I'm not even sure what I really believe sometimes.
my nigga

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>>36462444
Dude, you gotta read The Stranger or something. Look into some philosophy (it's not all word games - a lot of it is, though). I went through a huge introspective phase recently, and reading about different branches of moral philosophy has really helped me. Determinism specifically has been, ironically, the most freeing concept I've come across in my life.

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>>36462444
I ran out of comment space.

I used to type as an INFP and a Type 5w4 on the Enneagram, so I always was anxious about the meaning of life and who I am, what my destiny or place in the world was. I always knew I was extremely different from other people, but never really understood why or what set me apart. I still am, but I have learned a lot.

I found out I have Schizoid Personality Disorder a couple months ago. That explained a lot. But there's still stuff I don't know about myself, and my path is still uncharted. Until it's all sorted out, I will continue to look for content about personality, character and destiny.

>>36462303
>How do you like to learn about a subject you're interested in?
I'm like an autist when I learn. I endlessly and tirelessly consume piece after piece. I don't look at things in their entirety always, because I don't want to waste my time. I'm very particular about wasting time. I always make certain that what I'm about to read pertains to my questions and operates on reasonable assumptions.

>When you form an opinion, do you like to listen to a lot of opinions and weigh options, or do you just enjoy looking at data and deriving ought from cold, hard, is?
It depends on the subject. Let's take the Holocaust and Hitler's role. When I was learning about it anew, I was open to hear a competing opinion about what happened. I looked at the photographs myself, and I read some documentation myself that strongly supported the theory that the holocaust didn't happen. If you the same thing in many different, but substantial ways, then I can draw connections between these consistencies and establish whether it's more or less likely to be true. Then I just accept it, no further questions asked.

Hope I answered your question. Sorry for all the text. I tried to be as thorough as I could without being too long-winded.

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>>36462333
Checked. Depends on what you want from your partner. Unconditional love? xNFx. Extreme intelligence? xNTx. I'm of the latter kind. I suppose xNTx tent to be loyal enough on the whole.

>>36462617
go with xNFx, we're lonely.

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>>36462401
>Makes me feel.. understood?
That's perfectly understandable. There's nothing more lonely than being completely misunderstood or not understood at all by anyone.

>>36462366
Maybe when Big 5 starts writing profiles in order to spoonfeed me, I'll start taking it seriously. Got any recommendations besides that similarminds.com trait cloud bullshit?

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Fragrances are a good hobby for those with strong Ne

I have so many plans, one of them is having a supersensory experience

For example, let's say the theme is berries

I put on some music, slowly eat some berries, wear a fragrance that strongly smells like berries, watch something that is reminiscient of berries or something similar, be draped in silk clothings and so on

>>36462572
How do you reconcile things like astrology and tarots having no rational basis?

>documentation that strongly supported the theory that the holocaust didn't happen

You can find evidence for anything, if you're looking for it. Is this still a conspiracy that you believe?

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>>36462556
>Dude, you gotta read The Stranger or something.
I've already done that. I'm 21 by the way. I don't find fiction useful in this regard.

>Look into some philosophy
I've already done this as well. I haven't learned anything useful from philosophy for what I need since I was 17 when I read Sartre's "Existentialism is a Humanism" and The Satanic Scriptures, and I'm a philosophy major.

>reading about different branches of moral philosophy has really helped me
I'm a moral nihilist/relativist. I think all ethical systems that appeal to objectivity are worthless.

>Determinism specifically has been, ironically, the most freeing concept I've come across in my life.
That, we could probably agree on, though we may or may not mean different things.

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Name a more INTJ character than oberstein

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>>36460580
>ESTJ
>Graduated engineering

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>>36462634
Yes, but you also tend to be overly sensitive and too easy to offend or upset. That's not particularly attractive, though there's a lot to like about you.

>>36462663
Oh please, do you have any recommendations for men's cologne? I am in great need of some but I have no idea where to start, since I can't sample this stuff online from home. I need a scent that says "brooding nihilist in all black on a search for wisdom with the weight of the world's suffering on his shoulders"

ENTP here. Just wanted to say that all of the 'ENTPs' I've seen in these threads act like edgy 14 year olds. What gives huh?

>tfw no reason to live

i wish i wasn't INTP
are introverts just doomed to be sad their entire lifes?

>>36462778
No, you just have a sad life. Try fixing it and do something you think is fun and not useless

>>36462773
To the INFP (okay, specifically me) the relationship is about being 100% open and trusting with someone, and knowing that your various moods will be understood and talked about.

>>36462778
At least u are a smart intp im a low iq ugly infp with a useless arts degree

Its because they are

>>36462773
visit the fragrance general in fa sometimes, but no retards allowed

>>36462708
>I'm a moral nihilist/relativist.
I find it pretty hard not to fall into this trap. I agree that there's no rational basis for moral responsibility in some cosmic moral platonic sense, it's just hard for me to see the trees for the forest, here. I can't think of a rational reason that I should be truly culpable for my actions, but as a conscious being concerned with my own suffering, I feel like I have a responsibility to be concerned about the suffering of others.

>though we may or may not mean different things.
We might. I don't really mean "determinism", I suppose - I just mean the erosion of the normative idea of free will. When I grok'd this it really changed my view overnight on things like hate, judgement, contempt, and blame. I'm still human, and I'm helpless but to think in narratives, but I feel I can now take a step back and appreciate the absurd.

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>>36462670
>How do you reconcile things like astrology and tarots having no rational basis?
I don't give a shit. I care about what just werks. If I see that what they say actually corresponds with my reality, if I see that it really does play out more or less accurately, it doesn't matter to me how or why it works. I think people are too caught up in those questions and they miss out on valuable information as a result. It's assuming you know the truth before you've heard it out.

>Is this still a conspiracy that you believe?
Not sure what to believe about it. The evidence I've yet encountered for the conspiracy is still on the whole more weighty and convincing than on the other side.

Here's a tally:
- Before and after photos of concentration camps showing the alleged doctoring in favor of the holocaust narrative
- Declassified, publicly accessible FBI documents containing Jay Edgar Hoover's attention detailing the hunt for Hitler after his supposed getaway to Argentina.
- The 9/11 conspiracy showing the governments' willingness to lie about these things in general.
- Pictures of "gas chambers" and their logistics

I could go on. I only need so much information on this because I only ever plan to convince myself. I am not one for proselytizing, only exposing people to things they had not considered.

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>>36462719
Huey Freeman?

>>36462839
INFP have been shown to be like the third smartest type. You might suck at science and mathematics, but you probably excel at everything else, like social studies and literature. Understanding ideas is not as easy as you may take it to be, so don't underrate your ability to do it.

Any other INFPs think in vague concepts rather than words? Or is this normal?

>>36462940
btw is that hox

>>36462823
>the relationship is about being 100% open and trusting with someone
From what I know, you can trust an INFP to keep secrets. I wouldn't mind this condition if I were in a relationship with one. I don't actually have a problem with telling all about myself to someone as long as they can accept what they hear and are really interested in hearing it.

>and knowing that your various moods will be understood and talked about
yeah

>>36462878
That's not helpful, give me direct recommendations if you have any.

>>36462963
hox?

>>36462980
An INFP probably won't love you if they don't accept 100% of who you are already

>>36462880
>"""trap"""
What do you mean, "trap"? It's not desirable in the least bit, but are you instead going to delude yourself into believing something otherwise, for the sake of your sanity and happiness?

>I just mean the erosion of the normative idea of free will
I'm following but could you say a little bit more about this, what you mean?

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>>36461223
>If you're actually a sensor normie shouldn't you enjoy your monotonous routine and boring orderliness?

It's another N type thinks he's "tfw to intelligent" episode

>>36462980
ive only tried 40 fragrances and all I could recommend are those https://www.fragrantica.com/designers/Ephemera-by-Unsound.html

note that these fragrances DONT smell good. they are kinda offputting. they are concept fragrances that will fit any modern dark clothing brooding nihilist imo.

>>36462996
No one is going to know even 50% of who I am unless we get to that stage of me completely spilling my beans

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>>36463023
Swag man. Looks like I won't be able to get my hands on it any time soon, but I've got something now at least.

>>36462817
is this possible? even with asperger and borderline sociopathy? i hate so much going to a psychologist but i think there is no other alternative

>>36463028
I guess it's more like, the INFP wants to feel that you value the same things. If your motives are pure (read: the same as ours) then the details of your life will be accepted.

>>36462178
kurt cobain was an infp

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>>36463069
In contrast to the incredibly normie answer you had just received, I suggest that you consider exploring mysticism and the beyond to find some possible answers to the question of existence. You may think it's bullshit now, but what have you got to lose? You certainly don't want to open up to another human IRL, why not just submit a couple sentences worth of info to a database and be given a wealth of information at an instant, no questions asked?

>>36463078
>the INFP wants to feel that you value the same things
slap "to a certain extent or concerning the corest values" and we do not have a dealbreaker here.

>If your motives are pure
You mean if you're kind-hearted and good-natured? Check.

>>36463113
I feel like INFPs are the most genuine kind of people. But I'm probably biased.

>>36463059
no problem

aegergserh

>>36463144
Well the two relevant factors are 1) being honest with yourself, and 2) being honest with other people. If you can admit your flaws to both parties and can accept criticism you deep down know applies to you, then that makes for a genuine person. Health at Every Size women are not genuine, for example. Women who lie about their preferences in men and the chance other men have with them are not genuine.

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>>36462890
I think you should really consider how incredibly easy it is to fool yourself into something. You can convince yourself of anything. You're not a rational, sentient being. You're a sometimes rational, barely evolved ape living on a rock with a bunch of other barely rational apes. You are ruled by your emotions, just slightly less than everyone else.

>>36463012
It's a trap in the sense that if everyone felt this way, society could not function. At the very least, there is some basis for a utilitarian consequential justice system that keeps us all from constantly devolving into the kind of murderous Machiavellianism that doesn't benefit anyone.

>could you say a little bit more about this
Well, I'm talking specifically about the impossibility of Libertarian Free Will. If you're familiar with this, I'll elaborate for anyone else lurking the thread. Libertarian Free Will (nothing to do with the political party) is concept of "I could have done otherwise". As in "I decided to vote democrat, which was an action of my own free will, because I could have voted republican." This might sound fine, but it's logically inconsistent: You couldn't have voted republican. If you rewind the universe back to that moment and play it back a million times, you will only ever vote Democrat. This is how causality works. If you're not getting it, here's a video that might help it sink in intuitively: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjeKiIa7XEk

>>36463167
Potentially just me speaking here, but I think I'm aware of most of my flaws. I'm just much more likely to sulk about them than to work to fix them.

>>36460580
That picture is so stupid. INFP and ISTP directly contradict each other

>>36463170
So if we don't have Libertarian Free Will, what do we have? Why does it feel like we have something - some kind of base control over our actions?

I think this is a bit like asking the question: Why are trees green? You know they aren't REALLY green, right? The atoms aren't green. The molecules aren't green. It doesn't produce green light. When you say "trees are green", this is an approximation for "the leaves on a tree reflect the part of the visible spectrum most people see as green on earth most of the time".

The phrase "free will" just doesn't map onto any concept we can observe with what we know about the universe. It doesn't make any sense in any universe, really. But I can tell you trees aren't green, and you're still going to see a green tree.

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>>36463170
>I think you should really consider how incredibly easy it is to fool yourself into something.
Okay, consideration initiated. Neurons ready for firing.

>You can convince yourself of anything.
Nope, that's wrong. Only people who are inclined to skirting the truth and who hate criticism and being viewed negatively will engage in doublethink. I'm brutally honest with myself at all times. The only trap I'll fall into is not having all the evidence in front of me--but we never have all the evidence in front of us, my guy. We always have to make calls based off what we know.

>You're not a rational, sentient being.
I agree.

>You are ruled by your emotions, just slightly less than everyone else.
Your slightly less part prevented me from voicing disagreement here.

>Well, I'm talking specifically about the impossibility of Libertarian Free Will.
Yes, I'm somewhat familiar with it. It came up in a Metaphysics course I am taking this semester.

>>36463197
I understand all this. So you are an Incompatibilist about free will, and a Determinist?

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What an INFP needs to do to find personal and interpersonal success.

>>36463059
http://theperfumedcourt.com/Products/Ephemera-by-Unsound-Coffret-of-all-three-fragrances---Sound--Noise--Bass-Sampler__EphCioffret.aspx

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Why INFPs do not make satisfying gfs
>>36462634
>>36462773

>>36463308
Thanks guy, I'll order some when I get the chance. But first, roughly, what does it smell like?

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The INTP asks, why bother?

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The INTP provokes thought with a simple question.

>>36463373

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I know the feel expressed in the greentext, INFP. I do not agree at all about the non greentext.

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A silly explanation of 16Personalities' additional A/T factor.

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Memory, sensors vs. intuitives

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An ISTP describes himself.

>>36463266
>Only people who are inclined to skirting the truth and who hate criticism and being viewed negatively will engage in doublethink.
You should be extremely careful about this line of thinking. Being aware of cognitive bias does not make you immune to it. You're human, and you're vulnerable to exactly the next cognitive trick you don't recognize. Convincing yourself that you're immune to this is in fact the easiest way to make yourself a victim of it.

>Your slightly less part prevented me from voicing disagreement here.
I honestly think our "rational" minds just piggyback on our emotional mind. We already know the emotion of 'doubt' is about neurologically identical to 'disgust'. I imagine it all kind of works like this. At bottom, we're inescapably emotional apes, to whatever degree.

>So you are an Incompatibilist about free will, and a Determinist?
I'm an incompatibilist insofar as I'm not convinced "but it feels like I'm free!" is really a workable argument. The problem with my tree analogy in my last post is that nothing hinges on whether or not being green is an essential property of a tree. If we cant figure out a concept of free will that reliably maps on to what we know about the universe, it's something worth talking about.

>>36460670
Fellow INFP. It cuts too deep man

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>>36463456
>Convincing yourself that you're immune to this is in fact the easiest way to make yourself a victim of it.
Okay man, for the sake of argument, I'll assume you're right about all of that. What additional steps do I need to take in order to assure that I'm not believing the wrong things? Just discount automatically as wrong anything and everything that has had the unfortunate fate of being labelled "conspiracy" or "pseudoscience"? Your picture seems to not allow for knowledge at all, let alone pure knowledge.

>We already know the emotion of 'doubt' is about neurologically identical to 'disgust'.
Great insight here. I had never thought of doubt as being an emotional, rather than a mental state before.

>I'm an incompatibilist insofar as I'm not convinced "but it feels like I'm free!" is really a workable argument.
All right, I think we got to the bottom of this for the most part. I would only then ask where you think the determinacy in the world comes from.

>tfw INFP larping as an ENTP to get through life.

kill me

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Believing in MBTI demonstrates a marked lack of critical thought.

Your results will vary except for cases where your own bias wants the test to demonstrate some sort of validity/consistency. Even then, they often vary so much as not to be useful.

If you're impartial, all you have to do is do three different tests and see the results. Even if you're not impartial, if you do three different tests there will be at least a 50% difference between two results. That is, you'll likely find the test can answer obvious things: Like whether you're introverted or extroverted. It can tell you things that are obvious not only to yourself, but your friends and family. Other than that, it will often randomly vary.

Results from these tests tell you more about your mood at the time than anything else.

The people who came up with these tests insisted personality didn't change over your life. Many of us know from personal experience this is not true. In fact, you quite likely change your personality depending on who you're around. The word 'personality' comes from the Latin 'personae' which literally means mask. You might have certain predilections, you might prefer to be alone, you might have trouble controlling how loud you talk. You might be the life of a party, you might stand in the corner. Telling you 'that's your personality and you can't change it' is analogous with telling a heroin addict 'that's just who you are so don't bother trying to get sober'. Barring brain damage or something similiar, people can change, but the first two steps are recognising you want to change and accepting that you can.

If you believe in MBTI and mock Scientology or Astrology then it shows you aren't an independent thinker. It shows you want both Scientology and Astrology to be true, to a certain extent, but in a way that your ego finds more acceptable.

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>>36463350
>Noise
OVERHEATING DEATH ROBOTS

>Bass
Heavy despair

>Drone
Pic related

>>36463541
It's funny you say that. Steve Colbert is actually an INFP who plays an ENTP on television.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36wnaSqJtw

>>36463578
I'm interested in Bass and Drone. Interestingly enough, I kind of like those tunes as well.

>>36463587
I'm not very good at managing my emotions. I'm either completely emotionally unavailable or the exact opposite. Girls don't like me when i show my infp side so I try to keep it hidden but it slips out a lot. Either or this or it's just Borderline personality disorder.

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>>36463570
Where you looking for an argument, or just coming down as an enlightened thinker to save the plebians from their errors?

>>36462333
I have only dated an isfj
i loved her but only because she loved me
besides that she was annoying, abit clingy and generic in nature. having someone to hold was the only reason i stayed with her.

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>>36463570
i think you must be an INTJ

>>36463650
>I'm not very good at managing my emotions. I'm either completely emotionally unavailable or the exact opposite.
Why haven't you found the balance yet and struck it?

>Girls don't like me when i show my infp side
Yes, they don't like that. I have personal experience with this.

>so I try to keep it hidden
good idea

>but it slips out a lot
how so?

>Either or this or it's just Borderline personality disorder.
Could be. I know a borderline INFP, and she has quite a few issues, though not necessarily in the romantic area of her life. Don't be too hesitant to blame your personality disorders.

>>36463614
Yeah, Bass really is like heaviness in the void, it's like closing your eyes and being dizzy

Noise smells like vile burning electronics, it's very strong

Drone smells like travelling in the void, depressed as fuck, and occasionally seeing fractal lights

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"grasping the world", intuitives vs. sensors

>>36463652
*Were*

>>36463717
You wouldn't happen to have personal favorite examples of Bass and Drone to share, would you? I learn best by example. Noise doesn't *sound* attractive at all.

>>36463536
>What additional steps do I need to take in order to assure that I'm not believing the wrong things?
You just need to keep in mind how conditioned you are to thinking in narratives. Your brain is obsessed with smuggling in narrative to even the most banal, platonic facts.

>Your picture seems to not allow for knowledge at all
If knowledge must be justified true belief, you might be right. I'm not sure humans are really justified in the vast majority of our beliefs, even if a lot of them are true.

>Where you think the determinacy in the world comes from
Well it makes sense that we live in a deterministic universe. We can probably only exist to ask a question like this in a universe where macro events are determined causally. If you imagine a universe where non-quantum events aren't determined causally, that's probably not a universe we could survive in for very long.

>>36463750
>personal favorite examples
what do you mean?

>>36463753
Also this was pretty fun but I've gotta make myself sleep. See you in the next thread maybe, NT bro

>>36463444
Trips of truth

With that said I do have a good memory. It's pretty shitty to be one of the few intuitives with good memory

no idea what I am. never get consistent because I have such varying type of personality

I can go from thinking I fit in with ESTP to being an INFJ

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>>36463753
>You just need to keep in mind how conditioned you are to thinking in narratives.
Sure, but if I could, this still doesn't solve the problem of me being certain about anything I believe. My 'cutting through narratives', as it were, seems to merely entail either creating my own narrative completely anew, or else perceiving information as a tedious collection of facts that should never be cohesed into a neat story or else I risk misleading myself because of what, apparently, is the inherent trouble--possibly even uselessness--of narratives.

>I'm not sure humans are really justified in the vast majority of our beliefs, even if a lot of them are true.
I can grant that you're still sorting this stuff out yourself, but where we are now in the discussion amounts to your being an epistemological nihilist of sorts. Anything to say contrary to that, in your defense?

>Well it makes sense that we live in a deterministic universe.
Go on...

>We can probably only exist to ask a question like this in a universe where macro events are determined causally.
???

>If you imagine a universe where non-quantum events aren't determined causally, that's probably not a universe we could survive in for very long.
Because of the composition of our bodies or something like that?

So if I get this straight, you're looking at causation at the most minute level possible, which in our current understanding is the quantum level. You believe that the quantum level might just have laws it follows just as the macro levels; that there can't be any randomness on that scale, especially considering the consequences for everything on the higher levels. Is that correct?

>>36463791
Good night, anyway.

>>36463695
>Why haven't you found the balance yet and struck it?
because i'm too autistic/lazy to adjust my personality for specific girls. My ENTP side attracts girls with daddy issues/whores(albeit attractive ones) who just want sex, yet deep down I want a relationship. My infp side makes those types of girls dryer than the Sahara.

>>36463766
Songs on YouTube or Soundcloud or Bandcamp that you find excellent and epitomizing of the genre.

>>36463823
It's easier to find out that you might think.

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INTP 25 year old virgin master race

DISREGARD BITCHES AND MONEY
ACQUIRE ENLIGHTENMENT

>>36463869
>because i'm too autistic/lazy to adjust my personality for specific girls
That's your issue. You're trying to attract the wrong type of women. I'm not telling you to bee urself, but I'm suggesting that you figure out how to reveal to women just the right amount of you, the best traits and side of the male INFP, while holding back on the parts that scream beta. Women like sensitive guys, but they don't want pussy pushovers.

>>36463907
INTP anon is my spirit animal

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>>36463907
Drop a nugget of wisdom on us, sempai.

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"ISTJs are great"

>>36463989
>"ISTJs are great"
gonna need a citation for that one

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Understanding the self, sensor vs. intuitive

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The complex feel of not being a sensor

>>36460580
Fuck off ESTP-A master race

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Is this true, sensor friends?

>>36460787
Most SJW are like ISFP, ESFP and J. ENFP's like myself feel angry at injustice and mistreatment, and people tend to associate that with being a social justice warrior; not true at all. Because N's aren't complete FUCKING IDIOTS, LIKE FUCKING SENSORS but apart from that I'm a lovely person who actively supports a just society.

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An INFP describes himself as a big softy underneath a gray exterior.

>>36464032
See >>36464036

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ISTP troll weighs in on Ti vs Te

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A more or less sound argument against MBTI

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>>36460580
>Tfw sensies think you're weird and boring for not constantly pumping yourself full of drugs, alcohol and STDs in order to distract from ever having to actually think about life on a deeper level.

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>>36460580
Why is ISTJ labeled as robot/cyborg? Every ISTJ I know is maybe a little bit socially awkward at worst, but still very much a normalfaggot

They may not be turbo Chads but they're still normies.

>>36464139
It's because they have no personality beyond "obey the rules, do the work, make the children, force all of this on other people and die"

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>>36464134
Is doing drugs considered a S thing? I think I'm ENTP but I went through a phase where I really liked getting high and doing acid

>>36464161
He meant that you don't get offended by people who don't do drugs.

>>36464160
So they're the normie enforcers then. That doesn't sound like robots

>>36464161
There's doing drugs every so often because they're fun and then there's sensor mode "I need to constantly be high/drunk/cumming or I'm going to blow my brains out"

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Anybody got any of these saved?
Here's mine obviously.

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>>36464246
I could have done a little better at everything here except reaction time. Me sucking at reactions makes sense.

>>36464197
Nah, ESTJs are normie enforcers. ISTJs are normie tattletales and watchdogs hiding behind a tree and pouncing out to remind you of the RURURURUS when you do something fun.

How much do you agree with the following statement?

>In a non-life-threatening situation, I would rather starve than eat shitty food


INTP, very

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>>36464278
But if you're starving, wouldn't it then become life-threatening?

>>36460670
>When this world is only extraordinary in its ordinariness, and almost any other one is preferable.

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Which type is Varg

INFPs, whats your job/major and do you feel fulfilled?

>>36464057

Fully-fleged INFPs don't really talk to other people about their feelings. That's Fe.

>>36464296
stop nit-picking, if I didn't put it there you would just say that if you are starving you don't care about the quality of the food

so I was prepared with an example: you are on a long road trip and the only food available is something you don't particularly enjoy. do you wait until you get to your destination and get something better there or suck it up and stay hungry?

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>>36464341
INTJ

>>36464246
Pic related. I'm entj btw

>>36464278
INTP, very. I don't think that's related to INTP though, i am just autistic

>>36464341
INFJ just like Hitler

>>36464361
>That's Fe.
No it isn't. Fe isn't literally just being extroverted about how you feel, it's about trying to enforce your personal value system on the world around you. ENFPs regularly share their feelings and they're Fi too.

>>36464363
eh, I mean, do you eat the shitty food regardless or suck it up and wait

you know what I mean fucker

>>36464363
I'm vegan, so I'll use that. If the only things available are Cheez-its and Chips Ahoy on the trip, I don't eat.

>>36464369
Interesting, that says you're more or less a well adjusted individual. I guess, though, you're wary of others but liking being in the limelight, or at least recognized.

>>36463888
i dunno ... the fragrance names dont really mean anything desu, im just saying how they make me think of

and yeah noise doesnt smell good, but it isnt as offputting as bass imo, drone is the best

>>36462773
1. Ermenegildo Zegna - Intenso

2. Hugo Boss - XY

3. Ralph Lauren - Blue

>>36464344
Computer science and no, if I could live in a world where I could sustain myself by being an English major I would.

I so badly want to express myself through writing but it feels like a waste of time when I try.

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>>36464278
I would rather go hungry as well and I'm ENTP. Is it normal for ENTPs to be very similar to INTPs? From what I've read I seem to have a lot in common with you guys.

>>36464388
I meant INFPs talking to people about the person they're talking too's feelings. I didn't know how to word it properly and I certainly don't know how to word this post.

>>36464470
>those pleb frags
i really dont think thats what hes looking for

>>36464278
INFP, I'm not so picky but there's shit I just won't eat so maybe.

Generally my standards are pretty low for food but not non-existent. Shittiest I ate eagerly to sate hunger in recent memory was sink macaroni because my family was asleep and they keep pasta down here, tasted awful but I'd do it again.

>>36464471

When I tested as an INFP, I was really poor at Language studies which made me very conflicted about my career prospects. I went into computer science and became an INTP (although this was also due to the 2016 political scene)

>>36463989
>>36463995
Little dronies are great. They do the dirty work for you! :^)

>>36461748
Yeah I always seem to figure out how to win the argument after it's over

>>36464552
Yeah, and then they bottle up all their resentment about it over time without telling you, lashing out in petty, passive-aggressive ways and bitching about you behind your back.

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ENTP It's a hard life always being right

>>36460580
I'm an ESTP, to be honest we're more or less the most introverted of the extrovert types. We keep a lot to ourselves and spend time thinking about how to come across as well as we do.

>>36463888
and i say i dunno because im tired and i gotta go

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>>36464473
Possibly. I haven't double checked the functions yet, but someone should post the chart with the bubbles if they have it, as you all might have most of the functions in common, just in different orders.

Can you relate to pic related?

>tfw INTP, but my T is so weak it's borderline F.

If I had to pinpoint the spot on the MBTI continuum where sorrow at a pointless existence reaches its apex, this would be it.

>>36464638
INFPs have it a lot worse, they just wallow in feeling shit the whole time.

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>>36464629
Good day then. Thanks for the tips, it's been helpful.

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>>36460580
Who /master race/ here?

blox

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>>36464630
Yeah that pretty much sounds like me. I have no motivation at all and my life is a wreck. I think the only difference as an ENTP is I'm into pointing out logical errors in a debate and it makes people hate me even more.

>>36464645
I have a lot of INFP traits. Hence the borderline T/F.
[spoilers]The (clinically diagnosed) MDD doesn't help, neither does the (clinically diagnosed) ADHD. Mentally illness synergizes pretty poorly with IN(T/F)P. [/spoilers]

>>36464616
I thought ESTP was the turbo Chad personality type.

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>>36464679
Ah ha ha, I knew I'd mess up the spoilers. Time to kill myself.

So is the only positive feature of being a sensie an ability to carry out boring, menial tasks and meticulously file away boring, menial information without wanting to kill yourself and everyone else too much?

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>>36464630
the bubbles

we are similar, but not the same

>>36464471
I feel the same way, seems were doomed to either hate our jobs or be poor as shit

>>36464548
I've always been an INFP, 3 years in this soul crushing major as well.

I often wish I could be like all the *NTPs in my classes but I'm stuck feeling trapped.

>>36464696
Just a tip, there's no "s" at the end of the tag.

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have a meme
it a nice meme

>>36464696
Just get 4chan x and then it's ctrl+s, impossible to mess up.

>>36464707
Can somebody explain the difference between the red and green bubbles? What is the difference between S and F

>>36464694
True, but the thing that makes the turbo-chads so loud is the insecurity at the end of the day.

>>36464736
Larry Wall is an INFP fampi. He actually says so on his website.

>>36464751
it works without 4chanX too

>>36464707
I'm no expert at reading this but I imagine Ne means you need to think aloud more than INTPs.

Not sure what weak Si means. I think it means prone to drug abuse and addiction, pleasure chasing.

>>36464762
They are just color coded for ease of viewing. There is no opposition between Sensing and Feeling.

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>>36464739
>>36464751
Cheers lads

This comment is entirely original and in no way a duplication, and thus will not be muted by the robot.

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>>36464705
No, they are far better in high pressure situations that require immediate action, and they tend to be more physically fit, I imagine. They should be given at least /some/ credit.

Reminder that MBTI is more of an adjective than a noun. It just describes how you're acting, it isn't some unchangeable fact about yourself. Through self improvement you can all become almost any type you want.

>>36464792
none of these are correct

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>>36464823
Okay, then set me straight.

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>>36464792
It's just that I always hear INTPs complaining that they have no motivation to do anything because they know the real thing will never be as perfect as it is in their mind. I'm ENTP and I feel exactly the same way. Is this a common trait for both of us

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>keep hearing about how cool and collected ISTPs are supposed to be
>Tfw it's actually a lot more pathetic irl
>Have never had a meaningful relationship because all of my GFs all have bored me within weeks
>Still a kissless virgin
>Just sit in my apartment all day playing Vidya and building models
>Tfw I feel like something is missing

Is it bad that I kind of want there to be a riot in my town so I can join it. Those Berkeley riots looked fun, desu

>>36464817
Another MBTI thread
Another guy not knowing the functions.

>>36464862
Why have both my type and personality in general so dramatically changed over the last 10 years if that isn't true?

>>36464855
Not the anon you replied to, but you are a filthy, filthy Extrovert. Why don't you go socialize with your fucking Extrovert friends inside of posting on an Introvert board.

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ENTP i enjoy doing things people say I can't achieve, also I'm a narcissist asshole who likes thinking I'm amazing while accomplishing little because of laziness. Although when pushed or i really want it i do it generally.

I was an autistic atheist debater in high school

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>>36464859
You aren't alone, dude. It's typical in these times for ISTPs on this site to feel the same way.

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>>36464855
>>36464859
Here's a quick guide to how I's versus E's approach life.

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>>36464859
Of course you're missing something. You're an ISTP not doing new things with his life.

>pic related is a sheltered ISTP

>>36464855
>I always hear INTPs complaining that they have no motivation to do anything because they know the real thing will never be as perfect as it is in their mind
The perfectionism comes perhaps from NT, as the preoccupation with ideas certainly does. The indecisiveness comes from P, or maybe NP.

This is speculation on my part. I'll look more into this in the future for your sake.

>>36464876
Teenagers are notoriously hard to type due to hormones and overall immaturity and tests are unreliable in general, both because of how they're set up (most don't use the functions) and biases you may have about yourself at any given time.

I had to get a friend to help to really know my type personally and had to do some independent reaearch. Getting a 65% in one direction on a two way scale from a 16personalities test wasn't satisfying.

>>36465037
Fair enough, cheers

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INTP master race reporting in. Smart but lazy is the ultimate redpill and all you plebbit fags will someday come to realize that.

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>>36465100
>pic so old the INTP is still male

>>36465112
dd u just assume my gender

>>36465100
>pic
Male INTP is basically the ENTP but sadder. It's like poetry.

>>36464544

Hey, same thing here. I love good food, but I'll eat basically anything. Sometimes I wonder if my taste buds just aren't well developed. A friend of mine is a pretty passionate cook, and can pick apart small tastes easily while talking about how well they complement each other and stuff. He can go on about that while I can only tell if I like the food or not, so I feel like it's a waste to give me food that's taken a fucklong time to make. Pearls before swine, and all that.

>>36465112
No it's because I have a profile on the website

>>36464526
True. But they smell fucking great.
Most cheaper colognes smell terrible.
The CDG play one was really nice, but different aesthetic I guess

>>36464578
True. But they'll never be anything more than middle managers...

>>36464783
Thought it would be especially gormless to just ask who he is so I looked up some videos. I really like his take on it all, kinda gives me some motivation because I definitely see parallels between our thinking styles.

The key 2 cognitive function is the only test where I get estp

>>36460580
>ISFP
>"I'm very traditional"

nigga did you even read the description.

>>36465112
Is there even a such thing as a NT female

>>36460645
im in canada how do you find a therapist, do you just google that shit? im in the same boat.

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entp here, if all goes right ill b a plumber in commifornia by 24 and die with money in my pocket

>>36460580
>stem
>success

>>36465454
What other types do you get?

Do you have a picture of the keys 2 cognition results?

What are your hobbies?

What's yer type and what song are ya listening to?

INFP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAlXfs3Ta_A

>>36465942
>ENTJ
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB7BC1w3jRU

God tier lifting music

>>36465942
INTP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXsTj4-6otM

explain

>>36465713
I've actually met one. Surprisingly, she was also very attractive.

>>36465942
INTP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KuGwZBRmVk

>>36464586
THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

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>>36463453
Well fuck its not exactly wrong

>>36465942
>INTP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udOwdov4MKk

>>36463453
INFPs and ISTPs tend to describe themselves as having an abnormal amount (abundance or lack) of emotion but that doesn't actually have much to do with the types themselves. Emotion isn't even a bad thing, being extremely emotional is actually very good, it's just bad when you can't control the emotions.

how 2 tell if i am entp or enfp
i always score as entp but im not a total asshole

>>36461083
No idea, I'd probably kill myself if I wasn't so curious about the future

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>>36460580
ISTP here
Guess I should just fucking off myself because a chart said so

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>>36463453
I can't figure out what I am because the tests say I'm ENTP but this sounds a lot like me too. What is anti-culture?

>>36467371
Same thing as counter-culture I assume

>>36462178
>To an INFP the fantasy world is real and the real world is fake
Too close to home man, I just wish I had tha talent to put my autistic fantasy worlds to use

>>36465942

INFP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qApOLaLYZb0

God, I am so happy this is an actual genre now.

>>36460723
You were never an atheist. Belief is not a decision anon. Trust me, I wish I could believe in a higher power and devote myself to his benevolent mission. I wish I could join a church and be with cute Christian girls but they always found out my disbelief. Its hard to hide among them. Last time they found out I was full of shit when I started talking about his little of Jesus is actually recorded by other historians. I did this out of complete INTP autism. Communism on the other hand is very flawed

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>>36465942
ISTP
Listening to the new Bones album

>>36467555
Synthwave is the shit, peep this pham.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTN6cGmH2yM&nohtml5=False

>>36465942
God tier Gorillaz song anon, and I'm an INFP too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWQbNb39lgc

>>36467749

That's sweeeet. I heard a bit of Perturbator in Hotline Miami. Guess I should check out more of his stuff.

>>36467824
Gorillaz is great in the sense that it manages to carter to both normies and robots. My favorite song is this one https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1MgzG2JiQ6Q intp here. We are similar to infps but with less crisis

Is this the most infp band to ever exist?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TTAU7lLDZYU

>>36460580
ENTP here


I would argue about anything just for fun

>>36468128
INTP here, this song is also one of my favorites.

>>36468175
have u ever thought u might be an enfp
jw because i always test as entp but suspect i could be enfp

>>36465492
Most people don't know how ISFPs are anon

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>tfw ENTP
>always right but everybody hates me for it

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>met this enfj chick
>I'm in intj
>Oneitis.exe
>want to kill myself everytime she doesn't text me

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>>36469069
>That feeling when INTP
>Always right but most people don't even know

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Is ISTJ the dad type and ISFJ the mom type?