Free will makes no sense

going to give this thread the old bumparoonie

Get mental help, you sound insane

>>36317657

I don't think there's anything much more insane than believing in free will.

It is completely illogical. Either your thoughts and actions are the causal products of prior events (so they're not free), or they're up to "randomness" (still not free, by definition uncontrollable).

Neither of those is compatible with free will.

>>36317689
We are free enough to stay within our constraints

>>36317831

Not if you get too much of some neurotransmitter in the wrong place, or too much pressure on some special part of your brain.

Then you're out howling at the moon or climbing up a water tower.

Free will is irrelevant and pointless.

For if there is free will or there is no free will, one does not know what's around the corner, and will always act under the belief of free will. Or freely subjugate himself to the devotion of a deity, and them offering the same thing to him.

>>36317960

>will always act under the belief of free will

That's just the thing. I don't act under that belief, and I don't believe many people do either.

They just think they do, but if they took their beliefs to its corollaries, it would soon become patently absurd.

I don't believe free will exists, I don't believe it's an "illusion", and I don't believe that I "experience it". On top of that, I don't believe others "experience" it either, or even assume its existence. I think they just think they do, but really don't, because free will belief leads to absurd consequences very quickly if you follow the logical implications.

>Or freely subjugate himself to the devotion of a deity, and them offering the same thing to him.

I don't think even a deity could have free will. It's a meaningless, empty concept, like "square circles".