Do women like shota the way men like loli?

>>36294122
Nope

orige

Yes, although I don't know what percentage of shotacon is produced by women. Women also produce lolicon.

>a shota
>is not 6'2
>is not muscle bound
>is not earning 40k a year
>does not treat her like a princess
no they don't

There are quite a few degen women who like shotacon, yes.

>>36294312
We're talking about manga characters here, not real people.

>>36294312
>40k
That isn't even enough to sustain one person, nevermind two or more.

It's impossible to tell. When a woman is a pedophile she just has to get married and have a baby boy then she can play with his penis in the bath all she wants with no legal or social consequences.

>>36294122
no but there are men who like shota the way they like loli

>>36294387
We are again talking about manga characters, not real people.

>>36294457
Hentai is just a substitute for the real thing.

>>36294547
It can be, but isn't necessarily. The Japanese are able to make a distinction between 2D and 3D in a way that's impossible for most Westerners.

No. I really don't understand why anyone would. They have tiny little dicks they don't know how to use, and they are really tiny and weak.

However I like to self insert as lolis

>>36294630
japanese also have communal bathhouses where you can look at naked kids all you want

I think there are a few mentally ill fujoshis who like gay shota but most women would be creeped out by it

>>36294758
So does my country. What about it?

i'm a grill and no. but loli is fine.

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Tfw just wanna roleplay as a cute shota for a mommy gf

>>36294769
It's not a sign of mental illness, and there's more than "a few" such works made.

>>36294372
Maybe not someone that gets their sense of worth by constantly buying shit.

I live off 32k a year and I'm perfectly comfy and can pursue my hobbies with just a little bit of budgeting they're kind of expensive hobbies though

>>36294372
my mom raised me with 20k with no issue

sounds like you don't know how to manage money

>>36294122
no

its just a kink for guys with an oepdius complex whether theyre aware of it or not

>>36295199
>no
This is false.

original

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>tfw shota dick
You'd be nuts to be into this thing

>>36294122
sauce, please. would appreciate very much

>>36295382
That's to big to be a shota dick

I am men and i like both :)

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>>36295382
>pubic hair
>big and veiny
That's not a shota cock!

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shota is gross who cares?

>>36294312
also this, roasties simply dream of Chad

>>36296457
Once again, we're talking about manga/anime characters, not real people.

>>36294122
No, because women desire either an alpha player, a beta provider, or both.

A boy is none of the above.

>>36296538
Once again, we're talking about manga/anime characters, not real people.

How many times must this be repeated? Why are people even getting so confused over this in the first place?

>>36296519
they don't fap to porn or doujins like we do

they get off to fantasies of Chadious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ-sCjNbLMA

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>>36296609
Comiket has historically been majority female and still has more female attendees than male ones.

>>36295345
im glad you agree with me anon

oregenal

>>36296734
>im glad you agree with me anon
I wasn't agreeing with you.

>>36295006
>posts on r9k
>no issue with upbringing

Choose one

>>36294630
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Miyazaki

Japan is almost as much of a moral-panicky shithole as the rest of the world.

>>36296970
being raised by a single mom is an issue in itself. Otherwise, we lived comfortably.

>>36297007
I wasn't talking about moral panics. I was talking about authors and readers distinguishing between 2D and 3D in a way that Westerners can't.

>>36294122
Yes.
Why do you think there are so many women teachers and daycare workers?

>>36297427
>Why do you think there are so many women teachers and daycare workers?
Once again, we're talking about manga/anime characters, not real people.

>>36297427
>so many women teachers and daycare workers?

they thought it would be a good idea to interact with children for a living. By the way, women teachers hate young boys; they suppress their imagination by convincing their parents they need drugs to "fix" their boyishness

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>>36294122
In what way do men like loli?

>>36297520
I've not heard of Japan having the same fixation on using drugs to "fix" boys that America does.

>>36297557
Are you kidding? Ever heard of prescription drugs for "ADHD" ? ADHD is the biggest meme in the history of psychiatry

>>36294122
I found lolli on my gf laptop, i find it disturbing

>>36297520
Holy shit that explains a lot about my childhood. Fucked up shit.

>>36297633
The fact that drugs exist for ADHD does not mean they are prescribed in Japan like they are in America.

>>36297648
maybe she is into ageplay

>>36297693
She's never mentioned anything slightly kinky.
And i think lolli is disgusting, it's borderline pedophilia

>>36297682
But Japan having an obsession with fixing boys doesn't mean America doesn't overdo it as well. Your other post kind of sounded like it

>>36297778
disregard that, somehow I thought you meant "I've not heard of America having this obsession that japan has"

Why bring up Japan?

>>36297799
>Why bring up Japan?
We're talking about Japan.

>>36297769
It's not borderline pedophilia, it is literal pedophilia. inb4 they're just drawings, a pedophile and a child rapist are not the same thing

>>36297854
Suuuuccckkaaa my ball 2 time

>>36297833
the guy I was responding to wasn't talking about Japan. Japanese words like shota and loli are certainly not exclusive to manga/anime or even Japan

>>36297919
What OP is talking about has effectively no relevance outside Japan.

>>36297941
assuming OP only meant to use the words in the context of manga/anime

>implying only the japanese read mangas/watch anime

>>36298024
>assuming OP only meant to use the words in the context of manga/anime
What other context would there be?

>implying only the japanese read mangas/watch anime
Lolicon and shotacon are so marginal in the West that there's really no point in talking about it.

>>36298077
>What other context would there be?
clearly you haven't kept up with internet culture. How old are you?

>Lolicon and shotacon are so marginal in the West that there's really no point in talking about it.

Even if that was the case, there's no point talking about the preferences of Japanese women, or the intricacies of Japanese culture on a Western image board (inb4 japanese themed)

>>36298209
>clearly you haven't kept up with internet culture.
What does this have to do with internet culture?

>How old are you?
Old enough to have been on the internet since 1997.

>Even if that was the case, there's no point talking about the preferences of Japanese women, or the intricacies of Japanese culture on a Western image board (inb4 japanese themed)
Why is there no point? And regardless of whether or not there is a point, this thread still exists.

>>36295382
Thats a very nice dick anon but for ffs you are a grown boy, trim that shit.

>>36298441
For who? No one is gonna suck it soon.

>>36298353
>What does this have to do with internet culture?
>Why is there no point? And regardless of whether or not there is a point, this thread still exists.
>this thread still exists

You just don't get it. How liberal people are with Japanese words nowadays, I mean. You haven't kept up and you have this very clear perception that isn't valid anywhere. OP's question has ambiguity in 2017 that it wouldn't have had in the 90s or 2000s

>>36298077
>What other context would there be?
Loli and Shota can refer to real children too. Back in the good old days Japan had Lolicon photography books. The idea that these terms only apply to cartoons is an idea invented by westerners who are deathly afraid of admitting that they're pedophiles.

>>36298550
valid anymore**

>>36298550
What are you talking about?

>>36298574
>Loli and Shota can refer to real children too.
They normally don't, and there's no reason why they should. OP also posted a manga.

>The idea that these terms only apply to cartoons is an idea invented by westerners who are deathly afraid of admitting that they're pedophiles.
Lolicon isn't pedophilia.

>>36298623
Lolicon and pedophile mean the same thing. Trust me, I'm both.

>>36298772
They don't mean the same thing, and by your logic Norwegian and black mean the same thing if someone is a black Norwegian.

>>36294122

I cant really imagine woman liking that small of a dick, like maybe playing with it but they wouldn't have sex.

>>36298793
Would you agree that a man who is attracted to drawings of girls is a heterosexual? Then why would a man attracted to drawings of children not be a pedophile?

The answer is that people don't want to call themselves pedophiles, so they use "Lolicon" as a euphemism

>>36298903
I don't care what mental gymnastics and trickery you try to employ. Lolicon and pedophilia are not the same thing.

If you want to be a pedophile then go right ahead, but don't try to drag others into it.

>>36298927
You're obviously in denial. You're inventing some silly exception to stop yourself from being placed in the most stigmatized group on the planet. Look up how actual Japanese people use the word. Come on, if you're on /r9k/ you're already a social outcast. Why are you afraid of being a pedophile?

>>36298623
>What are you talking about?

The other guy said it, Loli and Shota can refer to real children. You think there's "no reason they should", but if you look at a lot of the buzzwords and memes, you find little rhyme or "reason" in the internet.

>>36298927
you're the one making mental gymnastics here. If I watch straight live action porn and gay hentai, am I 100% straight?

>>36299226
>You're obviously in denial.
You're obviously projecting.

>You're inventing some silly exception to stop yourself from being placed in the most stigmatized group on the planet.
I am inventing nothing and there is no exception. Pedophilia and lolicon are simply two different things.

>Look up how actual Japanese people use the word.
Is this a variant of the "Spongebob is anime because the Japanese call it anime" argument?

>Why are you afraid of being a pedophile?
I'm not a pedophile.

Again, if you want to be a pedophile then go right ahead, but don't try to drag others into it. Why are you trying to get me involved in your drama? Keep that shit to yourself.

>>36299261
>You think there's "no reason they should", but if you look at a lot of the buzzwords and memes, you find little rhyme or "reason" in the internet.
And?

>you're the one making mental gymnastics here.
No I'm not.

>>36299331
>And?

And that's the way it is

>No I'm not.
You didn't answer the hypothetical question that came after: If I watch straight live action porn and gay hentai, am I 100% straight?

>Pedophilia and lolicon are simply two different things.

Yes they refer to different concepts. "Pedophile" is a broader concept, which includes "lolicon": a specific type of pedophilia

>>36299458
>And that's the way it is
What about it?

>You didn't answer the hypothetical question that came after
There's no need to answer it.

>"lolicon": a specific type of pedophilia
It isn't pedophilia.

Why do you pedos constantly try to drag everyone into your personal drama?

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>>36295382
>he thinks that's a shota dick
And yes I know I need to shave

>>36299498
you might as well just say "no" to every post. That's basically what you're doing. You're not arguing here, you're sticking your fingers in your ears

>>36299611
Stop lying, and then stop trying to drag others into your drama.

>>36297007

>gets bullied
>instead of killing his bullies, kills random innocent people

This is why the beta uprising will never happen