MBTI thread - Philosophy edition

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First for INTJs. PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE INTERACTING WITH US INTJs. Thank you kind citizens.

>>36275528
Your obsession is bordering on hysteria. Seek help.

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Also please read this and visit /r/intj if you have any more questions about INTJs. Thank you patriots.

>>36275561
Go away troll.

>>36275598
REDDIT FAG DETECTOD.

Also I wanted to add, my friend is an intj and myself being intp, I do maths and other logic stuff better than him, and I think I can be more stoic when connected to negative emotions. He is vastly better at doing shit and spelling than me though. It's strange how similar we are, but I think I am a lot more random and able to see social ques than he is, but he is better at having meaningful relationships unlike myself. But other than that, INTPs and INTJs are really similar.

>>36275598
>>36275528
Anyways, good b8 m88.

Orgginolies

INFP here

daydreaming is fun!!!

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>no racist lSTJ gf

>>36275528

Why only and specifically INTJs though? What happened to you for you to hate this specific type so much?

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>>36276111
He got cucked by an INTJ lesbian. Also he's ESFP.

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lNTJ here :3

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If you guys want an analogy for what INTJs are like just think of princess luna. We are dark and smart but at the same time we are magical. Never underestimate an INTJ.

>>36275502
INFP is my type. Each day is a balancing act.

I want tripfags to leave

>>36275995
I like these types of posts, they feel kinda homely but I can't quite put my finger on why

>>36277208
It's a casual anectode that reassures you others think about the same things you do
That there are people who don't just lead a vapid and empty life like most normies

How do you have meaningful relationships as an INTP? I'm on good terms with most people but it never really gets deeper than that and I'd like a small friend circle since I'm too independent right now

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Did you guys know that INTJs are the most common brony type? It's true. How can other types compete.

>>36275598
>>36275528
INJT here. I don't feel this way, and I don't really translate any MBTI results into the real world. Just don't be a dick, that means everyone, and the world will be better.

>>36277574
I have a sort of soulmate-friend who's INFJ and I realize I've become more humane and caring by basically being the same way he is. It helps INTPs to know how to enable and cherish others' behavior so they can find sort of innocent fun in poking and prodding at them. Letting your intuition work towards identifying a person's behavior and figuring out ways to insert yourself in it, with the benefit that you can learn how to express yourself in a way that might be different depending on who you're with but is ideal for you and that person.

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>>36275502
>share a house with an ISTJ
>he's autistic as fuck
>flips out if one thing is out of place
>constantly on the verge of a neurotic breakdown and all it takes is doing one thing how he doesn't want you to do it for him to lose his grip
>is passive-aggressive as fuck and would rather do little things to get on your nerves if you've wronged him than confront the issue and talk things out
>one time I used 1 (one) (ONE) of his laundry tablets while he was away because I ran out and he FUCKING NOTICED WHEN HE GOT BACK and held a grudge about it
>only ever concerned about minutia and tedious bullshit and incapable of thinking about things on a wider scale
>literally the most generic tastes and interests ever
>leaves faggy little condescending post-it notes about everything

How does anyone tolerate these people? Holy shit, they're more like pre-programmed machines that only exist to eat, sleep, work and be autistic. The only positive quality they have is that they can mindlessly trudge away their pointless lives doing the most banal shit because they enjoy it for some reason.

>>36276091
>dating an INTJ without any of the qualities that make them remotely interesting to be around

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originalio the post the original character

>>36275528
Literally all you need to do to finesse an intj is stroke their inflated psuedointellectual ego

>>36278705
INTJs are super easy to manipulate. All you have to do is

>tolerate their presence
>exude positive energy
>make them feel smarter than you

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>>36278348
>friend is an ISTJ
>constantly loses his shit over trivial nonsense that no one should actually care about
>whenever he does this towards me, I acquiesce, admit my faults and be the bigger man about it
>his autistic dedication to fitting in triggers his guilt so that he feels small and humiliated for throwing a babby tantrum over nothing
>rinse and repeat

It's gotten to the point where I'm almost looking forward to his autistic outbursts just so I can make him realise that I'm better than him

>>36276270
How the fuck is Fluttershy not the infp?

>INTJ
Autistic

>INTP
Narcissistic

>ENTJ
Domineering

>ENTP
Sociopathic

>INFJ
Faggots

>INFP
Pussies

>ENFJ
Whiners

>ENFPs
Manipulators

>ISTJ
Drones

>ISFJ
>Drones

>ESTJ
Bossy

>ESFJ
Stacies

>ISTP
Creeps

>ISFP
Burnouts

>ESFP
Retards

>ESTP
Chads

>>36279321
>INTP
>Narcissistic
hey i'm not narcissistic i just acknowledge that most people lack sufficient information and reasoning to justify their claims. i acquiesce to people on a regular basis if they are actually intelligent and supply the proofs.

INFJ here ask me shit

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>>36279321
>INFP
>Pussies

Correct

>>36277644
This is the basic INTJ mindset. INTJs are very hypocritical though.

>>36279321
>INTP
>Narcissistic

>INTJ
>Autistic

I'd say an INTP is an autist and the INTJ is the narcissist.

>>36279321
ENTJ has all of the NT problems all bundled together

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>>36279390

Greetings fellow mystical autist

>>36276270
>assigning INFPs the retard horse
why does everyone hate us so much?

Any INTPs in a job that's not STEM related? How are you finding it?

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As an INFP, should I express my feelings to my female ESTP friend. Would it work out?

I've never been in a relationship before.

>>36282020
>Female
>ESTP
>Feelings

You're setting yourself off to be laughed at, anon. Maybe if she has an N in there she might see the deeper implications of such a gesture, but with that S, she'll merely write you off as a pussy and go back to being a fem-chad

>>36282020
DUDESTOP.jpg

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They're all pretty much 50%. What does it mean?

>>36282087
I mean, I don't know. I don't know for sure what personality type she is. I know she is E??P. Help me fill in the blanks to know for sure

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>>36276270
Only MBTI charts I have is this an an Office one

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>>36282125
So, I've done some research. Does her being an ESFP change anything. Being around her makes me happy. Does she care?

>>36282205
Well if she's an ESFP it depends on if she's stronger as an F or as an S. As a rule of thumb, Ss are pretty shallow and only care about what's considered "normal" so a guy showing his feelings and getting all mushy will weird them out thoroughly. You're better off finding a nice N who understands that normal isn't the be all and end all of human behaviour.

You'll be happier too: you'd get sick of what a flat, transparent person she was after the initial hype of having someone who's willing to touch your dick. To any moderately intelligent intuitive, having to spend too much time around average intelligence sensors is fucking torture.

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>>36282205
this fucking personality test shit WHY DON'T YOU SAVE YOURSELVES SOME TIME IT'S BULLSHIT SPECULATIVE TRASH

>>36282205
She is going to cuck you.

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>>36282205
>Does her being an ESFP change anything
No. It does not.
The MBTI test is inaccurate, unscientific and at most can give you some slight understanding of what her personality is like, but you already knew that since you've interacted with her.

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>>36282349
You know what, you're right. Why am I writing about this? I guess this is a bit stupid to think a test know more about her than me. It's probably not accurate to just assume type anyway. Thanks for the reality check.

I guess I gotta do it either way soon or never.
On the bright side, if I fail badly, it'll make for a good greentext

>>36279321
why does everyone say entps are a socialpath?

>there will never be any way for an INTP to hook up at college without looking like a fucking idiot

why live

>>36275598
fuck off reddit organico

This makes absolutely no sense OP.

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>>36279321
tfw no ESFP gf

>>36275528

Pretention

Original

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>>36279321

Happy being a creep, I've been called one my whole life even by people intimidating enough to beat the shit out of me.

The shoe is beginning to fit more & more, I think.

>>36282518
Well hey, at least you have a better mindset than most people on here. If you lose, all you're losing is some social status among normies. There's pretty much no reason not to act.

>>36275528
>>36275598
comedy gold, thank you Anon

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I've been noticing these threads have been getting of higher and higher quality each time i come here, keep it up, lads. I had mostly left when /r9k/ started to go down the toilet, but the MBTI threads keep me coming back. Probably the best place I know of to have open discussion on MBTI, it's pretty comfy desu.

>>36283355
Nice settis of lolis.

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I shifted a bit over the last year

5-19-16: ESTP
6-10-16: ESTP
6-12-16: ESTP
11-6-16: ESFP
11-18-16: ESFP
2-25-17: ESFP
3-13-17: ESFP
4-14-17: ESFP

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MBTI GF RATING CHART

>1. INFP
>2. ENTP
>3. INFJ
>4. ENFP
>5. INTJ
>6. ENFJ
>7. INTP
>8. ISFP
>9. ISTP
>10. ENTJ
>11. ESTP
>12. ISTJ
>13. ESFP
>14. ISFJ
>15. ESTJ
>16. ESFJ

R8 and deb8, m8s.
>t. INFJ

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Nice job OP, this horoscope covers even relationship pairs. I'll check out my settis.

http://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/relationships

>>36283502
>INFP first
I kek in original

>>36283528
>implying you wouldn't want a cuddly, feelie, depresso gf

For some reason, (You)s aren't working.

>>36277574
I don't know, I'm in the same boat. After graduating college I never went out and just focused on accumulating wealth and reading up on current events. I've posted messages and memes in a small facebook chat with a core group of mates I roomed with in college, but I'd say I have about like 1 hour of social interaction a week, not counting talking with my boss about work.

>>36283502
Not bad, famalam. Check this out.

1. INTJ
2. ENTJ
3. INFJ
4. INTP
5. ENTP
6. ESTJ
7. ESTP
8. ISTP
9. ENFJ
10. ESFJ
11. INFP
12. ISFJ
13. ISFP
14. ENFP
15. ISTJ
16. ESFP

t. ENFP (male)

>>36284347
You know what, actually...

1. INTJ
2. ENTJ
3. INTP
4. INFJ
5. ENTP
6. ESTJ
7. ISTP
8. ESTP
9. ENFJ
10. ESFJ
11. INFP
12. ISFJ
13. ISFP
14. ENFP
15. ISTJ
16. ESFP

>>36275502
>astrology for neets

>>36284403
What's wrong with an ESFP gf?

>>36284444
Well if you've noticed, I'm an ENFP and I'm clearly attracted to opposite personalities. An ESFP would just be me but boring, stupider and a slut. I'm in it for personalities: I'm not interested in people who don't have any depth of character.

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>>36284444
WASTED ON THIS GARBAGE POST REEEEEEEEEEE

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>>36284403
>rating SJs over ESFP

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>>36275502
Fuck me I thought these threads were just going to be a passing thing when they started but now I don't even remember when that was. What the fuck are you anons doing? How does this insanity help anybody?

>>36275528
>>36275598
>the ESFP thinks he's so smart by posting trash like that

>>36284520
we get to shitpost about who is best personality and INTJs pretend they have friends so everyone has fun

>>36284520
SENSIES OUT

>>36284503
What's with the overwhelming support of ESFPs?

Why would I want to date a stupider, sluttier version of myself?

>>36284535
If you have friends what are you doing here

>>36284541
I actually tend to score Intuition on these things. INTP specifically. Give me my horoscope for this week.

>>36284579
>If you have friends what are you doing here
being a NEET shutin kissless virgin

Myers Briggs is a bad meme.

Personality can be determined by answering nebulous questions on a 1-5 sliding scale? It's as useful as horoscopes and blood type for analyzing behavior, only the most pretentious cling to these questionnaire personality types.

>>36284681
Check out the big5 test, it is officially accepted and also correlates with mbti

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>>36279321
INTP
>"Why fix anything, nothing matters," and proceeds to complain on /r9k/
INTJ
>emotional, whiny wuss hiding behind a cynical carapace
INFP
>thinks about every problem, doesn't fix any problem
INFJ
>validation through pointless esoteric knowledge and escapism
ENTP
>"I'm a good guy, I use my manipulation to help people..."
ENTJ
>everyone else is an idiot and only they know exactly what they *should* be doing
ENFP
>they're 'in touch with their empathy', habitual friend collector
ENFJ
>says they will 'die a hero'
ISTP
>follows people home to try to understand how emotions work
ISTJ
>disorganisation is offence, and it's never my fault
ISFP
>"Woe! Woe is me! My car broke down, the universe hates me!"
ISFJ
>'um', 'like', 'totally', 'omg', 'gurl'
ESTP
>works for the CIA, kills self before old age sets in
ESTJ
>"The only way to appraoch life is to beat it into submission, then take your anger out on your wife."
ESFP
>the reason entire towns ground to a halt from chlamydia outbreaks
ESFJ
>hobbies include: "boys", "cute cats", "obeying" and "consuming"

>>36284818
>validation through pointless esoteric knowledge and escapism

Yep, though it's not pointless, unless you consider existence pointless.

>>36284818
>disorganisation is offence, and it's never my fault
christ I hate ISTJs

>>36284818
Accurate dess

>>36284818
>ENFP
Hey, I got off pretty easy.

>>36284835
Existence isnt pointless, just absurd.

>>36284941
Oddity gives it novelty

Without it, this existence would be dull enough that it'd be comparable to torture

>>36285064
Agreed. It's nice to meet a fellow absurdist.

>>36285137
Pleasure is all mine familianosama

>>36282176
This image has probably the best and most concise descriptions of the types I think.

I kinda wanna show it to friends even though none of them have played DangitRonPaul

>>36279321
>>>ENFJ
>Whiners
>
>>ENFPs
>Manipulators
Switch these two.

>>36284818
You forgot:
ENFPs are literally "REEE the person"
ISFJ is also about muh organization

>>36284818
>>INFP
>>thinks about every problem, doesn't fix any problem
Fuck you for knowing me so well, uncannily accurate.

>>36284818
>>ENTJ
>>everyone else is an idiot and only they know exactly what they *should* be doing
Shouldn't this be:
>everyone else is an idiot and only *I* know exactly what they *should* be doing
?

Seems way more ENTJ-y to me.

>>36285932
That's what I meant, inconsistent grammar. Being a /lit/let hurts.

>>36285959
Ah, it's pretty good otherwise, though I don't really get the ESTP one, seems oddly specific.

>>36278737
Only if they haven't read about mbti, if they have chances are they're weary.

>>36284403
>>36284347
>>36283502
Sit the fuck down, plebeians

>1. INTJ
>2, ENTJ
>3. ENFJ
>4. ENFP
>5. INTP
>6. INFJ
>7. ISFP
>8. ISTJ
>9. ISTP
>10. ISFJ
>11. INFP
>12. ESTP
>13. ENTP
>14. ESTJ
>15. ESFP
>16. ESFJ

>>36286331
>INFP that low
>ISTJ and ISFJ that high

>>36286266
>>36278737
>INTJs don't recognize manipulation
That's more of an INTP thing

>>36286366
>>INFP that low
they proved their inferiority many times already

>>36286366
INFPs are pretty shit tier unless they're healthy. Most of the ones I've met were hardcore SJWs too so ew

ISTJ girls can be fun if they're willing too. I've met a few who were good drinking partners. The ones who care about their work too much is the ones to avoid because they're pretty boring

ISFJs are great for serving. You basically have an assistant GF which is what I always wanted.

>>36275528
>>36275598
It makes sense for you to hate on INTJs. After all, they are your literal opposites and you don't understand them at all, since you're an ESFP.

Don't worry, we hate you too.

Barnum effect faggots.

MBTI is no more valid than astrology.

>>36286470
>and you don't understand them at all
>Don't worry, we hate you too.
INTJs are hilarious.

>>36286449
>ISFJs are great for serving. You basically have an assistant GF which is what I always wanted.
The problem is that they don't want to serve, but will only do it because they believe it is expected of them. Secretly they will hate it.
Also they will do everything that "feels right" for them, even if you tel them that what they are doing is retarded or not needed. And then they will still blame you for it because you "were wanting it secretly anyway so they HAD to do it".

>>36286384
What type could manipulate an intj? What type has manipulating tendencies?

>>36286509
That's one of the most transparent things in people. I hate it when they do that

>>36286521
ENTPs or other INTJs?
Most people try to manipulate others with their Fe, which is just hilarious and disgusting to INTJs

>>36286548
Ahhhh. ENTP is the one to watch out for. I guess if another intj tried manipulating me I'd be able to spot it...but entps hmmm. Thanks

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You guys have managed to say a whole lot of nothing in this thread.
>>36284818
Except this guy. You actually made an effort. And I appreciate it. The estj for my friend was spot on.

>>36277626
And you tried too with all your INTJ shilling. But goddamn you come off as unhinged. Interesting brony statistics tho.

ENTJ here. Step your game up fellas.

>>36286503
A thousand people all versed in MBTI and the cognitive functions will be able to type someone consistently and nigh uniformly though

As soon as you enter the functions you dispel the Barnum effect. Once an individual's personality is fully developed they can't change which functions they naturally prioritize without brain damage.

>>36286594
>Except this guy. You actually made an effort.
Thanks, my dude. I tried to take the feasible worst in each type to try to get people to argue with me, hence discussion followed by resolution on people's thoughts of each type. Or, at least something interesting to read, the former is a stretch goal.

>tfw INFJ
Looking at the graph, feels weird to be part of a nearly non-existent type.

>>36286647
I agree with this. It takes a lot of honesty, though. Also, the functions are abstract enough that I doubt most sensors (I'm looking at you SFs) would have to presence of mind to really conceptualize them.

>>36286594
Note how women tend to skew drastically towards the SF side of things. Gentlemen this the source of your problems with women - they are literally unreasonable children. It's also the reason that your ST and NT forefathers established a patriarchy. Only way that civilization could exist. Deep down you all know it.

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>>36286594
>And you tried too with all your INTJ shilling
>Shilling
That's the ISTP baitsman.

>>36286690
ENTJ here, I feel you man. Although we're loud enough that we may seem more numerous than we actually are. You guys are borderline endangered.

Btw, I found your ENTJ one highly accurate for me growing up. It's pretty much the most concise summary of my teenage angst phase I've ever seen.

I really like NFs. I feel like they're the NT bros from a different culture that we never get to hang out with. Like some cousina that live in Europe or something. Also I like to date NFs the most. Super fun, super deep, but not a dry NT like myself.

I did the test, I'm a INFP, what do I win?

>>36286770
Suicidal tendencies and a perpetual longing for a dominant xNTJ gf.

>>36286770
The knowledge that your scattered brain, overly strong emotions and proneness for escapism has now been put to 4 letters.

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>>36286770
>what do I win?
you lost

organico

>>36286787
>>36286816
>>36286841
Ok, I will redo the test. What should I aim for?

>>36286764
Nah bro, ENTJ. Ask me something conceptual that an ISTP couldn't answer.

I really like INTJs, they're bros. But that guy went overboard. I'll quote the late great Margaret thatcher: "power is like being a lady. If you have to say you are, you aren't."

We xNTJs should display our superiority by outperforming all other types in what we do, not by perpetually claiming that we're superior. The former is undeniable proof of our status, the latter is just edgy bravado.

>>36286902
>aim for

The test may be inaccurate, as it relies on self-assessment, but if you actually *are* INFP, then you're stuck with it for life. Have fun.

>>36286902
The best you can do at this point is use the mbti knowledge to identify a superior type and latch onto them like a barnacle. If you're lucky you'll be able to feed off the detritus they leave in their wake - which will probably be a better standard of living than what you had otherwise.

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>>36284818
>INFP
>thinks about every problem, doesn't fix any problem

Quite true.

Though the main problem is that when something is fixed it doesn't exactly fill your soul if you haven't found a goal further down the line to work on. So there isn't much to do and everything just stays the same.

t. INFP

>>36286902
>Aim for
I wouldn't even suggest taking a test (reading up on the theory and the functions is the way to go) but whatever benefit they serve is invalid if you aren't completely honest with yourself. also, like anon said, if you're truly an INFP you're an INFP forever.

>>36286930
>>36286951
>>36286954
What a shitty test, now i feel for crying. Thanks a lot jerks

>>36286920
What he's saying is that there's a butthurt ISTP (who's actually an ESFP) in every thread who tries to make INTJs and INFPs look bad with really stupid "arguments"

>>36286920
In my post I just tried to say that the guy wasn't shilling for INTJs. He's a pro-ISTP troll who likes to cherry pick examples of INTJs making fools of themselves online, screaming for ISTP superiority, calling intuitives dumb etc.

It's kinda funny but he most definitely isn't an INTJ shill except ironically. Which makes me think he isn't actually an ISTP, probably an ENTP having a laff.

>>36286509
Nothing a few bitch slaps can fix

>>36286548
ENTPs can be good at manipulating but they only do it for the lelz or because they want to experiment with people. Other than that they're so on the face and not as good as they think so. But it's good if you make them think they are on control.

ENTJs can easily manipulate INTJs if they have them figured out but can peddle back if they get too cocky about it

>>36287045
>The test may be inaccurate, as it relies on self-assessment, but if you actually *are* INFP, then you're stuck with it for life. Have fun.
Would you rather I be nice, or honest, with you?You can mature and grow as a person, learn to work with it, but it is still playing life on hard mode. Don't take rejection of the truth out on me. Nor is it my problem, nor can I do anything for the fact you are crying, which doesn't change anything either.

>>36284818
Is this like when horoscopes list relatable human traits

>>36287113
With that said, INTJs can manipulate the ENTJs too if they have figured them out which is a lot easier for them to do so considering our auxiliary function is their dominant function.

The ENTJ is a step ahead of you. The INTJ is a yard ahead of the ENTJ

>>36287139
More like: waiting for people to get triggered for the sake of discussion/boredom relief.

And I don't know shit about horoscopes, you tell me.
>inb4 "huehuehue yeah u do u kno mbti mbti is horoscope"

>>36287120
Basically this, if you can work out common INFP problems like being too easily hurt, being too easily distracted, wearing your emotions on your sleeves and letting them get the better of you, having shit or sparse scheduling/planning/cold logic skills, Fi-Si loops etc, then you'll be able to live a pretty good life and reap all the benefits of an individualistic, creative and intuitive mind.

It's just a lot harder than being an **TJ like most men are.

>>36287052
>>36287056
Well, I feel like a goof now. Thanks for helping me out fellas. Sometimes we all need someone to hold our hand.

When I took the mbti in college I was INTJ but the last two tests have labeled me as ISTJ. Is there much of a line between them outside of N and S traits?

>>36283502
For optimal bf:
Top tier: All extroverts
Good luck tier: Most introverts
Commit suicide you fucking perma-Incel: INFP

>>36287434
>ESFP
>ENTP
>ESFJ
>top tier

>>36287479
>>ENTP
Girls love the bantz

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I get INTP on all these MBTI tests across different websites etc but still can't help but wonder if there isn't any overlap between other types like INFP or something, because I read that INTP is about logical and cold hard sort of decision making but I'm not sure how much of that applies to me especially because I'm really bad at math, bad at measuring, at counting money, at division, and as for thinking with logic and not being ruled by your emotions, I have anxiety disorder and panic attacks and OCD and I feel like sometimes my emotions take over and I'm at my worst point mentally, frought with anxiety and uncertainty and then the OCD makes it worse, coming up with worst case scenario thinking or just stupid nonsensical thoughts or ways of thinking that I have no chance to respond to logically because the thoughts trigger my anxiety and send me into brief spirals, but they've been getting less frequent after my latest panic attack flare up last year, and I find myself able to counteract the anxious, irrational OCD thinking with logical thought and conclusions far quicker than before and its very relieving.

So maybe I am primarily INTP but can have overlap with F when I'm at the worst period of my anxiety, and emotions aren't under control which is when I feel most turbulent in my mind and physically as well with all the psychosomatic feelings strong anxiety can trigger.

I think I need to meditate more as well, to bring my emotions and anxiety and OCD under control, I need that stability otherwise I can't function.

Thoughts?

>>36287434
>>Top tier: All extroverts
>>Good luck tier: Most introverts
Why? The I/E part is less important imo. Top tier are NTs and STs.

>>36287503
Girls love commitment too

>>36287547
>Thoughts

I mean, thoughts on the idea of overlap and how much of it occurs if it does and if overlap is a good or bad thing etc.

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>>36287406
I just found this and it makes sense, nowadays if I get stressed out I basically lose control and implode instead of trying to fix the situation or half assing it.

>>36287547
Cognitive functions aren't at all based on your skill-sets, nor are they based on your behaviour: just the mental reasoning behind why you behave like you do; the thought process that went into it.

Also, since online tests (shit-tier desu) are self-assessing, obviously there's fair amount of room for error, and to an extent, how you think you "think", and your own judgements of your behaviour will influence it.

Friendly reminder: mental illness is an outside affect on your brain, not an intrinsic part of it. I always test as INFP because of (suspected, I won't try to claim I know for sure, nor do I want diagnosed) bipolar II. But, after reading more about the functions, I'm undoubtedly an INFJ.

Check the links in the OP, senpai, and look after yourself.

>>36275502
This chart seems pretty accurate. I'm INFP and find myself being very interested in anything Jung related.
>>36287547
You sound INFP to me.

>>36287045
>now i feel for crying
INFP confirmed

>>36287628
>wanting to spend any time at all around NTs and STs.

Maybe for earning potential, but NTs and STs tend to be rigidly inflexible, egocentric autists. In what universe does that make you boyfriend material?

>>36287406
ISTJs are normal dudes who are a bit obsessed with rules and have OCD tendencies, usually work hard and have very good memories. Often only talk about their direct experiences and life with others.
INTJs are often quiet intelligent "nerds" who can't relate to most people on an intellectual level. They only like talking about ideas or topics they care about

ISTJ is the most common type, INTJ one of the rarest so you're probably ISTJ

>>36287686
>You sound INFP to me.
>>36287547
Don't listen to this guy, no offence, but he's basing it of the fact you seem dysfunctional, so he assumes you're an INFP. Neither him or me could claim to know that off of a post, for sure, especially with anxiety and OCD shit. Because your mental health is compromised, I wouldn't trust online tests to do the trick, study the functions (link at the OP) if you really want to know. Knowing your actual type could help you a lot.

>>36278681
>tfw ENTP is actually a sociopath but the whole board thinks he's just some prick who loves arguements

>>36287630
Not from guys who are boring.

>>36287799
More like sociopath mistype as ENTP

>>36282758
they are
oregane

>>36287799
All NTs are kind of sort of sociopathic on this board.

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Why don't all INFPs just end it? We're fucked, this life was not designed for faggots like us. Especially those of us who don't have an interesting talent like drawing or creating music.

>>36284403
1. ENTP
2.ENTJ
3.ISTJ
4.INTP
5. ESTJ
6. ISTP
7. ENFJ
t. ENTP (male)
I didn't do the rest because I'm never getting a gf anyway

>>36284818
>I use manipulation to help people
I help myself and convince myself it's "for the greater good" Kill me desu

>>36287854
Not only here though

>INTP: The 'nothing ever matters' sociopath
>ENTP: The 'everything becomes chaos xD' sociopath
>INTJ: The fedora 'surrounded by idiots' sociopath
>ENTJ: The genocidial megalomaniac, Aristotle sociopath

>>36287920
>I help myself and convince myself it's "for the greater good"
ENTPs, everyone.

>>36287937
>stupid stereotypes: the post

>The fedora 'surrounded by idiots'
These are mostly immature INTPs

>>36287920
>>posting on r9k
>>manipulating people
>>the greater good
What possible greater good could you be working to autismo

>>36287920
>lying to yourself
How can you do that? Without fucking your worldview up?

>>36287937
change INTJs to the fedora 'surrounded by idiots but actually a huge pussy who wants to be friends' sociopath

>>36275528
ENTP here fuck off with your tumblr safe space

>>36276049

It is! what do you dream about anon?

>>36287683
Maybe I'm overthinking it then, I don't feel like I have a good handle on my thought process yet, one interesting thing is the method of thinking that has changed. I remember my inner thinking used to be mainly be an automatic type of thinking, an intrinsic knowing of something rather than internal dialogue, but now its like half that and half internal dialogue or talking to yourself in your head like its popularly depicted in movies and shows, which used to be an alien concept to me, I dont know I cant explain it well but its interesting to think how that can affect things.

Yes the self-assesing nature of the tests is what keeps that doubt in my mind - if I really am INTP or something else but just misinterpreting how I think i think, this is very subjective and not easy to objectively measure yourself but how else will I? Apart from online MBTI tests theres no way for me to take it otherwise I think so its harder to get an outside objective measure.

>mental illness is an outside affect not an intrinsic part
Well said, I need to keep that in mind. I've been living with anxiety and OCD for so long its hard to seperate that from my thought processes, its almost automatic. However I feel that meditation when I get off my lazy ass to do it, helps reign those in and I return to a more emotionally neutral state, I think thats what I need more of right now then.

>>36287686
Well I dont know, thats why I posted here and wanted to get other anons opinions on the idea of overlap. I'm not ruling out that possibility just yet, I need more information.

>>36287786
Good point anon, I have been more dysfunctional lately, had a period of intense anxiety and panic attacks last year, and the medication I was taking for it (Vistaril) seemed to do more harm than good when it came to managing anxiety.

>knowing your actual type could help a lot
Yeah when I read the INTP summaries it describes me so damn well its really relieving to have some insight like that.

>>36287967
Ok how would you pierce it, dickface?

Yeh INTPs can do that as well but they are a tidy self aware so they wouldn't drool in such arrogance

>>36287983
that's what I convince myself I'm doing. It's really just convincing friends to buy my beer and shit
>>36287989
I try to keep my worldview and my "manipulate people to give you stuff" parts seperate

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>>36283502
1. ISTJ
2. INFJ
3. INTJ
4. ENFP
5. INTP
6. ISFP
7. ENTJ
8. ISTP
9. ENFJ
10. ESFJ

t. INTJ

>>36288034
>Immature INTPs
>self aware
I fucking wish. They often come across as giant autismos and don't even realize that
Anyway this is good:
>>36287994

>>36288054
>4. ENFP
hey there, sexy brain, what's going on in that sexy brain of yours?

>>36288054
ISTJs are fucking boring and predictable though, once you know their beliefs

>>36288054
>Wanting to date an ISTJ

Just set up a chat with one of those artificially aware bots and you'll be simulating a conversation with the most interesting ISTJ imaginable.

Reminder that many sensors are literally afraid of NTs because they are not ""normal"" to them

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>>36288024
>>36287547
Also for reference this is what I got on my latest MBTI test, which made me think about the possibility of overlap, if it occurs and to what degree.

I dont know what to think about the Turbulent and Assertive part though, if knowing those even helps in any way or if its too subjective to be accurately deduced.

>>36288161
Sensors dislike and are threatened by all Ns because they don't live their lives based entirely around fitting in or doing what everyone else is doing and that's FUCKING WEIRD.

SJs literally can't get their heads around how anyone could live their lives without obsessing over every irrelevant detail about every little thing that comes their way

>>36275528

Fuck I hate teenage INTJs. They're so far stuck up their own arses. You can smell the reddit oozing off this post as well.

I was exactly like this in my teens, recalling that time sends shivers down my spine. Disgusting.

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>>36288054
>2. INFJ
You'd like INFJ women, you think? Interesting... heh heh, you and that sexy MBTI type of yours...

Too bad I'm still male(male). kms

>>36288161
Except ENTPs because they know how to handle sensors whereas the others might not.

It's fun to be intimidating though. Mainly because it makes people do shit

Other than massive apathy I don't get why there are some image macros with ISTP on suicide tier. Any ISTP out there can clarify?

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>not dating a qt ENFP male or female

>>36288239
>know how to handle sensors
Do you mean keep them happy or tell them to GTFO?

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>>36288222
>SJs literally can't get their heads around how anyone could live their lives without obsessing over every irrelevant detail about every little thing that comes their way
From experience, at least SPs are usually a lot more tolerable for someone like us than SJs. They're actually *interesting*, although ISPs are closer to my energy level than ESPs.

SJs are fucking NPCs, I swear to god.

>>36288263
The main problem is the second last point
ENFPs are the people who crave experience of new things, they love to travel to new places, love doing new things etc
They become fucking depressed when they are forced o do the same thing for years

ENTP here.

We aren't all sociopaths. If anything, we're the "smart but lazy" type that think our humor and way with words has any value when in reality our ability to come up with ideas and process large amounts of information never helps anything and we're all sort of useless. We're machines that feign creativeness. As a result, we're that clown people keep around so we can pretend that reading Wikipedia article after Wikipedia article and turning them into jokes is useful.

That being said, I generally get along well with others and see the value in all the other types even if they can be gigantic pricks like ISTJ or ESTJ.

>>36288293
The former. Anyone can do the latter

I can't wrap myself up with a mundane conversation with sensors unless they're ISxPs. It's too fucking boring, too uninteresting, too cringe inducing and unproductive. I do it anyway though because I like doing extraverted stuff.

Can someone tell me what are the key differences between INTP and INFP?

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Post and rate families, amigos. I'll start.

>Me - INFJ
>Mother - INTP
>Father - ENTJ
>Younger sister - ENTP
>Younger brother - ISFP

Being part of an intuitive family's pretty comf desu.

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>tfw ENTP
>everyone hates us
>I just want to be loved

>>36288161
In order of most threatening to least threatening Ns for the average sensor.

>ENTJs
Have a clear vision, won't take no for an answer, often get called bitches if females or psychos if male because sensors can't into ambition

>INTJ
Have strong convictions and gut feelings about things, no tolerance for shallow people and dishonesty, which encompasses most sensors. Also called bitches and psychos.

>INTP
Apathetic and typically concerned with more abstract topics, which means they can often temporarily trick sensors into thinking they just flat out don't care until they get fired up and scare them off by being "autistic".

>INFJ
Kind of like the INTJ but more prone to emotional outbursts which gives sensors the impression of their being stuck-up. Can mesh well if they keep their opinions quiet.

>INFP
Shy, reserved but withstrong, strong feelings. Most sensors wouldn't even otice the INFP and would write him off as being kind of quiet and difficult to know.

>ENTP
Most sensors mistake their confidence and devil may care attitude as being traits of the ESTP (aka the Sensor King) and will flock to them. If the ENTP doesn't play their cards right, though, the sensors will realise that he's "weird" and back off.

>ENFJ
As the ENTP can be mistaken for an ESTP Chad King, the ENFJ can be mistaken for the ESFJ Basic Bitch if they keep their mouths shut at the right times. As soon as they start voicing actual thoughts and opinions outside of TV shows and movies, however, they'll quickly be labelled "annoying".

>ENFP
The ultimate social chameleon, the ENFP is the best at tricking sensors into thinking he's one of them and often keeps a collection of sensor friends for when he wants to explore different ways of thinking. Even when they do notice that the ENFP is "weird" they write it off as him being quirky and silly and continue to think of him as a goofball never realising that there's an intuitive in their midsts until the ENFP has gotten bored and moved on.

>>36288407
I can't tell you the amount of times I get accused of shit like "all you do is make sexual jokes to me" and "you never bother asking how my day is or how my life is going". Sometimes I feel a bit bad, but I honestly don't care about any of that stuff. It's not that I don't care about the people involved, it's that I don't care to have the conversation necessary to do what people deem as caring.

>>36288507
That seems like a super chill family

>Me: ENTJ
>Dad: ESTP
>Mom: ISFJ
>Sister: INFJ

>>36288327
The trick is to keep things spicy and to occasionally remind them of why they fell in love with you in the first place. ENFPs are high maintenance, high reward. You have to keep loving them, but you'll get that love back a thousandfold as ENFPs do everything they can to make you feel like the centre of their universe.

>>36288542
>All you do is make sexual jokes to me
I-Is this really all we can do?

>>36288547
They were only ever semi-functional, but I still do love them. My Mum, autist that she is, makes a much better friend than a Mum honestly, especially now.

>>36288516
I don't hate you when you stop talking about things you clearly have 0 knowledge of, lel. i wonder if sensors actually fall for the bullshit

>>36288458
INTP-
loner, more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships or family, wrestles with the meaninglessness of existence, likes esoteric things, disorganized, messy, likes science fiction, can be lonely, observer, private, can't describe feelings easily, detached, likes solitude, not revealing, unemotional, rule breaker, avoidant, familiar with the darkside, skeptical, acts without consulting others, does not think they are weird but others do, socially uncomfortable, abrupt, fantasy prone, does not like happy people, appreciates strangeness, frequently loses things, acts without planning, guarded, not punctual, more likely to support marijuana legalization, not prone to compromise, hard to persuade, relies on mind more than on others, calm

INFP-
creative, smart, idealist, loner, attracted to sad things, disorganized, avoidant, can be overwhelmed by unpleasant feelings, prone to quitting, prone to feelings of loneliness, ambivalent of the rules, solitary, daydreams about people to maintain a sense of closeness, focus on fantasies, acts without planning, low self confidence, emotionally moody, can feel defective, prone to lateness, likes esoteric things, wounded at the core, feels shame, frequently losing things, prone to sadness, prone to dreaming about a rescuer, disorderly, observer, easily distracted, does not like crowds, can act without thinking, private, can feel uncomfortable around others, familiar with the darkside, hermit, more likely to support marijuana legalization, can sabotage self, likes the rain, sometimes can't control fearful thoughts, prone to crying, prone to regret, attracted to the counter culture, can be submissive, prone to feeling discouraged, frequently second guesses self, not punctual, not always prepared, can feel victimized, prone to confusion, prone to irresponsibility, can be pessimistic

>>36288314
SPs are cool because they're okay to just chill and Ns can get behind that too if the group is interesting enough.

But SJs are fucking NPCs through and through: boring, monotonous, stingy, particular people who need to do everything the same way every day all the time or else they'll flip out on you. And they hold grudges like motherfuckers over the most mundane shit. An SJ is the type of person who will fucking ice you out for weeks because you didn't use a coaster. Petty is their profession: it makes them great worker drones, but miserable for any self-respecting N to be around.

>>36288518
>sensors can't into ambition

10/10 judgement lad.

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>>36288507
>Me: INTJ
>Father: ISTJ
>Mother: ESFJ
>Sister: ESFP

>>36288507
That's a pretty balanced family, actually. I approve.

>>36288547
Also a balanced family, but would be better if one of the feelers was E and one of the thinkers was T.

Mine is:

>Dad (Estranged): ISTJ
>Mum: ESFP
>Little Brother: ISFJ
>Me: ENFP
>Grandma: ISFJ

I get along famously with my mum, but I sometimes don't see eye to eye with my brother (can be petty and small-minded about everything in true SJ fashion) and it sucks being the only N in my immediate family.

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>>36288518
>tfw ENFP friend

Watching him toying with normies is interesting. No one seems to like him "overly" much, but everyone does like him. Everyone.

>normies calling a third or so off the intuitive list "psychos"
>tfw stuck-up psycho
Where have I heard this shit before?

>>36288646
Sorry, I meant ambition beyond "get money, get laid"

>>36288614
Eh, a lot of us do hold degrees, read a whole lot, and watch lots of podcasts and legitimately do know what we're talking about, but even then I will readily admit that I'm only an expert in my own field, and that the others I have only just read a book on or read a Wikipedia article about. I never don't admit my lack of expertise.

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>>36288694
Jesus Christ, how motherfucking horrifying.

>read INTP/INFP/INFJ/INTJ descriptions on http://www.similarminds.com
>identify with and see several similarities with all 4 of them
>now completely confused as to what type I am but get INTP most when tested

Are we narrowing ourselves into little cliques based off arbitrary 4 letter labels that mean more to our ego than our method of thinking?

Really makes you think

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>>36275502
>INTP
>close to Kant
This genuinely makes me happy, since I'm an INTP and I like Kant so far

>>36288507
Me: INTJ
Father: INTP
Mother: ISFJ
Sister: ENFP
Brother: xNTJ, not sure

>>36275502
Which type is the most stubborn one?

>>36288712
The best part of watching an ENFP interact with sensors are those occasions where you see a flicker of something beneath the ENFP's eyes as he says something in a totally innocuous and seemingly thoughtless way knowing full well that what he said or did was going to provoke a certain emotional or social response among the group.

ENFPs can be pretty darn manipulative. It's almost second nature to them. They're the INTJs of socialisation.

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>>36288751
Read this and decide for yourself

>>36288516
Supposedly, to find someone you'd get along *really* well with more easily, of course relationships with more effort and common ground work better, I've heard you switch all par the N/S dichotomy. Therefore, for you, it'd be INFJ.

love me fampai

>>36288745
It is. My mother could be ISFP or ISFJ, if that makes it any better. Father and sister are 100% ISTJ and ESFP though.

>>36288712
>Watching him toying with normies is interesting. No one seems to like him "overly" much, but everyone does like him. Everyone.
That's the ENFP's true strength: numbers. They may only have a small circle of friends who really dig him, but you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone who has talked to an ENFP at length who can honestly say they didn't like them. They keep large social circles and tend to flit between sub-groups depending on what they're interested in at the time.

>>36288796
All SJs, but especially ISJs

>>36288694
>>36288707 here, I feel you house of sensors bro

>>36288796
ISTJs are the most stubborn, selfish, stingy, ignorant, petty, obsessive compulsive people you'll ever meet.

They'll chew you out for not filling an ice tray properly and secretly mark you down as an untrustworthy piece of shit whenever you fail to be organised to the letter.

>>36287892

Im learning guitar but i'm not very good, s-should i kill myself too anon?

>>36288922
ISFJs are pretty much the same, but the worst thing is that they often won't even tell you what you did wrong. Sometimes because they don't realize that others don't know the things they do, but often because they don't really know why they feel angry themselves

>>36288965
ISJs fucking hold grudges like it's going out of style. Forgot to close the front door when you left this morning? Passive-aggressive grudge. Used their controller without asking permission? Passive-aggressive grudge. Didn't wash your dishes at the time and date they decided you had to wash your dishes without ever telling you? Passive-aggressive grudge.

And if you ever confront them about it, they'll insist that they're fine and that it's no big deal.

And then a week later you'll find a FAGGY LITTLE STICKY NOTE posted on your door.

They are the absolute worst. Insufferable people who can only be tolerated by other SJs and SPs who happen to share their interests.

>>36288694
Actually now that I think about it my mother is ISFJ. She only has one friend and Si is her dominant function I think... Which is probably just as bad as ESFJ to be honest.

>>36288922
Are you an INFJ?

>>36288965
>>36289035
Yeah all of this sounds like her especially the grudges part

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what's your opinion on estp?
t.estp

>>36289035
The thing that annoys me most is that they can only see things from their own perspective, and don't understand how something they thing is good would be bad for other people
Instead of being able to realize that, they will instead find a stupid explanation, e.g. "He only says that but actually he wants it, I'm NOT wrong"

>>36289075
Worse: ENFP. Literally the antithesis of the ISTJ. I just want to be free and live and let live but the ISTJ isn't happy unless everyone marches to the beat of their drum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indicator#Criticism

its all complete horseshit, about as accurate as reading your fucking horoscope

you people are so pathetic, and i say that from an /r9k/ perspective. stop being so fucking deluded.

>>36288801
That didnt help much, its too subjective, and the MBTI is already subjective enough in its origins.

Plus its based on social interaction and how the type interacts socially but Ive been NEET masterrace for over a year now and dont have many of those to compare myself against.

Also I'm reading here many aspects of one IN** type that I saw attributed to another IN** type on another site, it seems that no one MBTI site is in parity with the other so how are we supposed to get any kind of objective measure from what again is already a subjective origin, I read several times that the MBTI isn't taken seriously by other psychologists and scientists, and theres also other MBTI types with entirely different acronyms proposed as well, how is one supposed to find the objective truth in all this subjectivity?

>>36289106
When you consider the fact that ISJs are by far the most populous personality types, is it any wonder that so many people seem fucking retarded?

>>36276049
Greeting from my wonderland, fellow INFP

>>36289132
MBTI is focused on social interaction
If you want something that explains what goes on inside the person, try socionics. Basically the same shit as MBTI but with a few differences, like they switched the last letters for introverts
People will tell you that socionics is a completely different system or bullshit, but that is because they are mistyped in one system. Both are based on the same theory.

>>36289106
ISJs are literal drones. They are born to be programmed with a set of beliefs and ideologies inherited from their loved ones and live to serve those beliefs and ideologies unflinchingly and unquestioningly for the rest of their lives. They never ask why, they never stop to wonder and they never take a break: they just relentlessly march under the banner of "this is what they told me is right and so it's right forever fuck you fuck you fuck you" until they die.

>>36289125
>It has been argued that this reflects a lack of critical scrutiny.[41] Many of the studies that endorse MBTI are methodologically weak or unscientific.[9] A 1996 review by Gardner and Martinko concluded: "It is clear that efforts to detect simplistic linkages between type preferences and managerial effectiveness have been disappointing. Indeed, given the mixed quality of research and the inconsistent findings, no definitive conclusion regarding these relationships can be drawn."[9][42]

>Psychometric specialist Robert Hogan wrote: "Most personality psychologists regard the MBTI as little more than an elaborate Chinese fortune cookie

Fuck yes this is what I was looking for, I had a feeling that there was too much a level of subjectivity in this.

What it appears is that people become hooked in their own acronym cliques and cling to a label so desperately to satisfy their ego. There may be some modicum of truth to this whole thing but all in all it seems too subjective and personal to be of any concrete use.

The one objective thing may be extraversion and introversion but all the other acronyms added on seem horoscope tier, too much overlap and too little objectivity.

>>36289132
Also try a big5 test and translate the result back to MBTI

When you read about sensors, one gets the impression that they are full of negative traits. Sure, intuitives have their share of negative traits as well, but those are usually quirky rather than malign, yet sensors are much more successful in society than intuitives.

But why? Do sensors actually like other sensors? Are they just unaware? Or is it all just a big pretense? Because they actually want to be part of society unlike intuitives? Is society just a big playground for sensors?

>>36288516
I know that feel
>hung around w/ popular kids from 6th-12th
>never invited anywhere
>they liked me, but only because I was funny and when we worked together on projects I did all the work

>>36289224
>Fuck yes this is what I was looking for

>sensor searches for confirmation and finds it, therefore he was correct and case closed

>>36288542
I get you. It's like you want to make social interaction more stimulating but are lowkey afraid of being perceived as cold except you're not because you're actually caring for that person by conversing.

I can't really blame you. I do the same thing but I usually talk about myself or my experiences. That doesn't mean I don't give a shit about yourself. Ok I do whenever their lives are uninteresting

>>36288518
It's usually weirdo and asshole or any of its derivatives. Psycho only when I begin to vent out my frustrations, which are MANY but I've learned how to handle them so people refrain from calling me one. I agree with the bitch part for female ENTJs though. I feel bad whenever people lash out on them however

>INTPs seen as autistic
True. People are very quick into judge INTPs. Don't blame them though, they can sometimes be too borderline autistic

>>INFJ
>>Kind of like the INTJ but more prone to emotional outbursts which gives sensors the impression of their being stuck-up. Can mesh well if they keep their opinions quiet.
True. They can be seen as autistic if they act as their ESTP shadow.

>>ENFJ
>>As the ENTP can be mistaken for an ESTP Chad King, the ENFJ can be mistaken for the ESFJ Basic Bitch if they keep their mouths shut at the right times. As soon as they start voicing actual thoughts and opinions outside of TV shows and movies, however, they'll quickly be labelled "annoying".

Very true. They can be seen as annoying if they are being insincere in their attitude or being too vocal about their feelings. They're too afraid of being perceived as non sensor like too

>>ENFP
>>The ultimate social chameleon, the ENFP is the best at tricking sensors into thinking he's one of them and often keeps a collection of sensor friends for when he wants to explore different ways of thinking.

This is what annoys me about ENFPs. They can be understanding and good listeners with you, but they will neglect you in favor of their sensor friends

>>36289250
>Do sensors actually like other sensors? Are they just unaware?
Yes to both. They live life and are often unaware how others are different, or just are mystified/scared of "strange" people

>>36289132
>psychology
>objective
Just because it is subjective doesn't change its validity.
>>36289132
Just because you don't understand it, doesn't make it horseshit

>>36289271
I test as INTP/INFP each and every time, do you see how biased your clinging to an arbitrary label and its properties has made you?

Regarding I and E there seems to be something there but the rest of the MBTI is more like like guidelines and general overview rather than something more concrete, and objective.

Thats how I feel about it anyways.

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Is it possible to be an INFP with very strong Ti, robots? I feel like this is the only explanation for my general INFP personality but that relies on Ti a bit too much on matters that would generally require Fi or Te.

I think I behaved like an INTP in childhood but evolved to INFP when I started interacting with other people a bit more in my late teens/early 20's.

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>>36288507
Looks Nice

My family goes like this
>ESFJ - Mom
>ESFP - Older brother
>ISFP - Me

It's always happy times and laughs whenever we interact. I just came back from helping my mom do some chores and we couldn't stop laughing the entire time.

>>36289346
Please learn psychology and learn about the MBTI before asserting that it's BS. And there is the possibility that you didn't answer the questions truthfully, and rather answered how you wanted to be.

>>36289346
You're probably an INFP, ISFP or ISFJ

>>36289120

ENFPs are friendly chads, quit complaining.

>>36283570

You're not cuddly and depressed just because you get an assigned type.

>>36289324
I'm saying its so subjective to the point that different descriptors exist on different test sites and even in these threads people subconsicously seek to elevate their own type above others and think that understanding a person and their behavior is as simple and straightforward as knowing their MBTI type and thus they can fit into their preconcieved notions of what such a person is like, thats the subjective nature I'm reffering to, it just descends into cliques arguing about other cliques, your MBTI type is treated as an identity and label given to you and your ego.

>>36289381
Based on what, and from what sources of MBTI information do you claim this from?

>>36289392
They might seem like Chads but aren't actually retards

>>36289392
>ENFPs
>Chads

Nah, man, I'm anything but a Chad. You're thinking of ESFPs.

>>36289346

>Takes the test
>Doesn't actually research cognitive functions

Wewe lad you're lucky there isn't a ''stupid retard'' personality type or you'd fit right in.

The test is just a guideline, you're supposed to research what each function means and which type you relate to.

also

>fuck yes this is what i was looking for

Confirmation bias is alive and well.

>>36289414
Most descriptions are pretty similar. Have you researched the functions at all?

And it's true that most sensors can't introspect at all, that's why they get completely different results on tests and just say that it's bullshit

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I've seen a lot of negative things towards INFPs. But still read about successful INFPs that actually get to something useful in life.
What are the traits that differ good INFPs from the trash INFPs?

>>36288801
It was nice to read something about INFPs that wasn't completely negative.

>>36289414
>different descriptors exist on different sites
It's the internet. Not all the sites are equal authorities on the subjects.
>cliques
Where do you think these cliques originate from? The people exist to form the cliques. People may not exactly conform to all the descriptions of each type, but they're close enough because the MBTI isn't bullshit, and the psychology surrounding it is fairly sound.

>>36289449
>>36289423

>E

extraversion means you enjoy being around people and socializing. How can that be anything but chad?

>>36289481
There more to it than that

>>36289481
Chads are basic fuccbois, not just people who can talk to others

>>36289481
So, 50% of males are chads then?

>>36288801
This guy, rdwier, actually has some solid content. Read a post of his about how to type based on functions, I recommend.

>>36289481
Don't be daft. ENFPs are the most introverted extroverts. They connect with people based on abstract, internal factors such as personality, belief system and their moral compass. They also require downtime after every social event to collect their thoughts and "recharge". They're basically introverts who flick on an extrovert switch whenever they're around people.

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Well, i'm INTJ, but still nihilist

>>36286503
It's more valid than astrology but really that doesn't say a whole lot

>>36289494

im listening anon.

>>36289517

That describes my friend exactly and he is a chad even though he constantly denies being one.

>>36289458
>The test is just a guideline, you're supposed to research what each function means and which type you relate to

I did, and each time the INTP and INFP functions were most relatable and seemed to put to words what I couldnt explain to myself.

However branching out to different test sites and theres elements of INFJ, INTJ that also describe me very accurately, so then I started thinking just how much of this information can be truly objective and worthwhile when there is so much overlap, you test as one type each time consistently yet see some elements of other types in you as well, granted only the IN** types.

Look I'm only trying to figure out if its not an utter waste of time to believe and research this stuff due to how "open to interpretation" these functions seem to be and how they can describe multiple aspects of a person yet come from 4 different types. Maybe I'm just overthinking it or not explaining it well I dont know I'm not good at getting my thoughts into writing, fuck.

>>36289481
Food for thought: it's more common for women to be extroverted than men.

As an extrovert, my desire to talk all the time honestly makes me feel feminine for more reasons than one.

>>36289630
You should research the cognitive functions and not type yourself based on descriptions

On the topic of astrology, I was wondering why we are assigned our signs based on the month we popped out of our mom's vagina and not the month we were concieved.
Sure, we didn't know how those things down there worked exactly in the past, but we do now. Maybe I'm actually a Capricorn instead of Leo, the horror.

>because it's pseudoscience, yes, I know, but entertain me

>>36289039
ISFJ isn't as bad as ESFJ

The former knows when to shut up and is easily submissive.

>>36289630

Sorry for being so aggressive anon, i appreciate the detailed post.

Do you think maybe you relate to the other types too because of the IN part? There is also overlap in people's personalities (i mean normal personalities not MBTI typology. Im assuming you're aware people have different personalities/thought processes even if theyre not rigid and defined like MBTI?)

For example, someone who is very emotional or impulsive can sometimes make rational, logical decisions that go against their impulses. So someone typed as F (feeling) could also relate a little to T (thinking). Also its a spectrum, so some people completely relate to a specific type, whereas someone could be on the borderline between F/T or I/E and relate to two different types.

I'm autistic and very stupid though so maybe you're right and this is no better than astrology and i just like categories/rigid boxes i can put people into. They're much easier for my autismo brain to understand that way.

>>36289657
Not only have I researched them extensively but as I already said I get INTP and sometimes with 40-60 T and F and no other type, and reading over the description/functions of INTP and INFP they describe me accurately, though INFP less so as seems more people oriented and egalitarian which I'm not as much, but do avoid conflict.

And looking up the description are only because I went to the other INFJ/INTJ/INFP summaries on sites looking to see what is said and described about them because I never get them as results for any MBTI tests I do, and theres where I noticed aspects of my self in all 4 types.

>>36289739
There's even more, apparently. Influenced by the time and location of your birth.

>>36289788
>noticed aspects of my self in all 4 types.
Well yeah, obviously the descriptions won't be mutually exclusive

www.strawpoll.me/12752848

>>36278348
All that greentext is literally my sister. I love her but damn, I just can't hold a meaningful relationship with her, anything deeper than the trivial small talk and daily routine triggers her into nuclear breakdowns, after which she usually blames me for being inconsiderate and stupid, and she always attacks me ad hominem instead of keeping track of the actual argument. Also I'm and INFP

>>36289799
But you'd think the position of stars during your conception should have much bigger effect on your personality than the time you slid out of a wet hole

>>36289908
In some sense you become "you" as in you are no longer physically attached to your mother by an umbilical chord. Sure you are in many ways still dependent, but you didn't just "slide out of a wet hole".

>>36289774
Yeah it seems more likely to be a spectrum kind of thing, with varying degrees of one type or the other but overlap seems to be more common/easy between F and T and maybw others white I,E and N, S less so.

>no better than astrology
Nah, astrology is complete bullshit and as an astronomyfag very annoying but MBTI types do seem to have merit and some degree of validity to them I just feel its important not to let the ego assume its one label and then deride or look down upon the others and not consider the possibility that some people may drift between elements of types based on internal/external factors, like F and T.

>>36289817
True and I guess what matter more are the detailed, extensive summaries like on 16personalities site, I guess I'll take a look at all 4, its quite a lot to read though.

>>36289908
I must confess that I don't know enough about Astrology to be an authority on it. I have taken an astrology test that included the time and location of my birth and the resulting information was shockingly accurate. I'm not saying that I believe astrology is true, but it does raise some interesting questions, such as the one you have regarding conception vs birth

>>36289908
The only effect the stars and celestial bodies have on you is their gravity which for something like 000.10% - 000000000.4%

>>36290038
>"000.10% - 000000000.4%"
>0.1 to 0.4%
I don't think you're doing it right, Anon.

>>36290062
I'm bad at math


>You have been muted for 2 seconds, because your comment was not original.

>>36289125
>"The interesting - and somewhat alarming - fact about the MBTI is that, despite its popularity, it has been subject to sustained criticism by professional psychologists for over three decades. One problem is that it displays what statisticians call low "test-retest reliability." So if you retake the test after only a five-week gap, there's around a 50% chance that you will fall into a different personality category compared to the first time you took the test."

Hmm, never happened to me, its INTP always no matter when or where I test it, every year

>>36289219
>>36289106
>>36289160
is this why there are so many fucking leftists, open borders, muh diversity types trying to force it on us?

>>36290123
it's because Fe and Fi doms convinced the SJs that that is a good idea

>>36290038
And what if that minuscule gravitational change had the potential to change how your brain forms? Ever so slightly making one more introverted vs extroverted

>>36290123
makes you wanna scream, doesn't it

>>36275528
>compleat

>>36290195
An interesting theory but not supported by any evidence, if so then people born in the future on the Moon, in space, on Mars colonies should have very different brain formations no?

I doubt it.

>>36289972

Do you beleive in self fulfilling prophecies? i.e you type as INFP so you act more INFP or maybe don't bother to improve/change?

>>36290237
I think many things would affect a person's brain and personality if they were born on the moon or mars. Biologically and socially/psychologically

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>>36290258
I type as INTP though, with admittedly significant overlap potential between F and T it seems-

>>36279730

intj is not only autistic but is also narcissistic

intp is just autistic and doesnt want to be reminded because every day of living in objectivity is not some graceful gift of god, it is a fucking nightmare that never ends

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>>36290313
>>36288220
Both me, so notice the minimal gap between T and F, leads me to think there is most overlap with that one function, its a possibility I guess.

Or is it a mistype? Reading INTP and INFP descriptions and I notice I relate strongly with both, feels like I'm back at square one here in my posts.

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Original? Original. Originaliooooooo post

>>36290123
It's why there are so many ignorant leftists and ignorant conservatives. Ignorance is the ISJ way of life.

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How many INTP Stoics are here ?

I am 20, and it has been the only thought system to give me some sort of peace and serenity.

>>36290434
>tfw npc
w-well at least i'm not a little cuckboy healer

>>36290510
I try to be but my anxiety and OCD can really throw a wrench in that depending on its severity

>>36290510
I'm an INTP that's interested in philosophy duh but I haven't sat down and looked through or read much about different philosophies. From what I know, however, I think I align with Kant. I agree with him on morals and the metaphysics of morals

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>>36288507

>Me - INTJ
>Mother - ESFP (possible ISFJ)
>Father - ENTP
>Sister - ISFP
>I don't know what my brother is, since he has severe autism and therefore cant fit into one of these categories.

>>36290510
Sure I like stoicism, but I'm more of a taoist man (it's the desire to be different)

I was also always kinda drawn to utilitarianism, but I never studied it in-depth enough to say if I actually like it or just the superficial understand of it, it's also a kinda "debunked" philosophy or so I heard

expect a longer and more autistic post on philosophy later on

>>36290434
>ISFP
it's perfect We're not all stoners senpai

>be ISTP
>assigned to exciting project two years ago
>boss largely lets me do my own thing with it
>achieve objectives well ahead of schedule and everyone is happy
>all that remains is the polishing and write-up stage for the project
>very bored with this part
>meanwhile a different project is failing
>get promoted and assigned to that project to save it
>now all fired up again

See this is good management.

Which types could build a working society all on their own?

e.g. how would a 100% INJ, 100% INTP, 100% ENTJ, etc. country look like?

>>36291013
INTP
>everything would go to hell because no one would bother with logistics and infrastructure
>no one would actually do anything but we sure would talk about it all the time
>every once in a while someone would burst out of his cave with an invention that's completely irrelevant to our current problems
>our only hope would be to automatize all the ugly parts of life with robots, but no one would care enough to actually start
>eventually we would decide this whole society thing is a bit overrated and debate ourselves to death

thus ends the greatest age of humanity

>>36291013
More important, what would a society with only ENTPs look like?

Is there a way to find out if you are more INTP or INFP? Would an INTP even ask such a question or is uncertainty more of an INFP thing? And yet INTP are said to be constantly second guessing themselves and unable to decide on things.

Doushio

>>36291323
that is fucking spot on, kek

Would talk more about what an ideal INTP society would look like that actively attempt to create one, because what if it doesn't match the ideal, then its not worth trying

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>all this sensor hate
>muh intuitive superiority

It's true we don't like you because you're not normal. Stupid delusional incel fucks. Us sensors can immediately tell when someone is not cool or doing something weird. Over thinking and bringing up weird topics gives you away. Intuitives are the most UNCOOL people I have ever seen.

Seeya losers. Have fun LARPing your astrology types.

>>36287799
I'm not a sociopath but I did kill hindreds of small animals when I was a kid

>>36291448
>Have fun LARPing your astrology types.

>he types while identifying with one of said types

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>>36291448
Don't bully the intuitives!

only INFP bullying is allowed

>>36291013
A 100% ISTP country would be a loose collection of isolated self-sufficient homesteads separated by no-man's land.

Conflicts between neighbors would be resolved using the honest and time-tested method of killing your neighbor and his family. But it would be an honest, open fight.

Which type is the smoothest with the other sex?