Are the Nosferatu the most self-defeating clan? >have vampire

>>36231870
the Nosferatu target those who were chad or stacy in their mortal lives as a form of humility

>>36231889
Yeah, but turning them ugly won't change their personality. They're still going to be alpha and they'll rule over the beta nos

>>36231870
debofnight.andcuriouser.com/

was deb kindred?
was she a nossie?

>>36231945
I always thought Deb was a Toreador
She's an Itallian which narrows it down. She can be Toreador, Venture, or Giovanni
But she's also in show business which makes me think she's a Toreador

>>36231911
Being alpha doesn't mean shit when you have weak blood. Elders have had centuries to develop their abilities and will fuck you up the ass the minute you step out of line.