I fucking hate rich people.

i fucking hate pretty people

Me too
I want to be them but they won't teach me how

>>36220656
Why come? Because they have more stuff than you?

>>36220721
Found the richfag Kill Kill Kill

>thinking happiness is based physical possessions

do you even enlightenment?

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>>36220656
>when you literally wipe your shit with hundred dollar bills

I used to be poor like you OP but then I woke up and decided to be rich

>>36220656
We call that "jealousy"

>>36220656
Nothing feels worst than being a stocker at a rich neighborhood. You see kids half your age driving million dollar cars while you wageslave away for minimum wage

>>36220782
shit richfags say

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>>36220782
>the grass is always greener :^)
>money isn't everything :^)
>you can't buy happiness :^)
THEN GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING MONEY YOU FUCK

>>36220913
This. If having money means nothing to you then just give your money away :^)

>>36220891
"I"m poor"
-poorfag

>>36221819
It's not money that you want, it's being able to do things.
Power is the ability to do things, and knowledge is power.
There, you're rich now. Just use your knowledge to print your own goddamn money, Mr. Smart-but-Lazy.

>>36220782
Give me all the money you have and any entertainment devices you own and we'll see how happy you are

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Hahaha what's wrong, wagie? Jealous of my beautiful BMW while you are stuck for life cleaning my pool? Hahaha another day another dollar.

>>36222043
Pool boys fuck rich house wives.

>>36220656
me too, i'm already starting to hate white people when they pass by and do the internal black mmph

>>36222079
Watching a bit too much porn, have we wage slave? If Mr noseburg catches you watching that he might just fire you!

Poor people are far more obnoxious
They are stupider, louder, and more abundant
Most richfags won't even bother fucking with you

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>tfw to rich for a gf.

i hate poor people so we are even anon.

Way higher chance of being a complete toxic waste. Money issues, health issues, appearence issues, mentality issues, family issues.

The icing on the cake thou: They'll betray you for crumbs, crumbs money, crumbs women, crumbs status.

Then again, we don t have to see each other so there s that anon!

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I'm not rich per say but i'm not poor either. money doesn't bring happiness anons, it's true. i bought all the vidya i want, shit like that etc... and i'm still just laying on my bed in all my free time demanding to be smited by some unholy god. Life is fucking horrible no matter the possessions, money, power, fame etc...

>>36222192
holy shit lol
change your name to eggchad

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>grind for GBP as a kid since no job to get money
>get crappy used epiphone and fender mustang
>happy
>rich as fuck friend doesnt play but knows I do
>buys $2000+ custom ESP
>5150
>some how gets mesa rectifier too
>never touched it
>didnt let me play on anything
>tried to sell to me for triple the buying price
>ended up literally scrapping guitar for firewood at drunken bonfire in high school
>gets new tv to celebrate getting new carpet in house wtf
>crashed hummer and got new one
>only damage was dent in bumper
>parents sunk over 60k into ITT tech
>shut down before finishes
>gets underage stacy pregnant
>works at a fucking best buy even though parents pay for everything
>lives home with stacy and stacy jr now
>family plans to add a other floor to house just for them

I fucking hate the rich so much. They just do wasteful shit

>>36220656
but what if you get money?
>>36220782
this t.b.h.

>>36220656
>If you want money just ask your trust fund if they can give you an advance on your allowance bro

>>36221873
you're a fucking retard.

origoyolo

>>36222399
You're the one who can't figure out how to post original content on /r9k/. I feel sorry for you, if you can't come up with an original insult. You must be an actual retard.

>>36222331
fuck off. if I had no financial problems I would do something with my life unlike your lazy ass.

>>36220782
It's not about how much you have, it's about what's fair. If you see people running around with more than you, even if they're not super happy about it because they're used to it, it pisses you off because literally your life would be better if we all had the same amount of money when you're poor.

>>36220656
Only because you're materialistic

>>36222433
lol look at this retard hahahaha

>>36220656
being rich means you have contributed to society, by selling products or services.
there is literally nothing wrong with being rich

>>36222493
It is pretty unfair that multiple long-term societal factors keeps the American goal of human equality from reaching its eschaton.
But what do you do about it?

>>36222554
I hope you're not seriously that stupid. The rich do literally less than the poor. Some rich guy wiggles a pen and then there's someone mopping the floor. Which one prevents you from dying of the plague and which one just sent jobs over seas? The less you actually do the less you are paid in this backwards hellhole.

>>36222360
>crashed hummer and got new one
>only damage was dent in bumper

lord

>>36222589
It takes a lot of smarts to do that pen-wiggling. If you don't have them, you don't get to do it for long.
The tragedy is that doing it wrong doesn't send you to prison.

>>36222554
Not that guy anon but minimum wage jobs are in fact the hardest jobs in the world, demanding you to work twice as long, for a much meager pay. That janitor that you look down on as you just finish your 3 day work week and prepare for the weekend puts in more hard work than you have but he's making pennies so no amount of hard work he does will help get rich.

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>>36222554
>being rich means you have contributed to society

>>36222751
It's a robot job in the first place. He's getting replaced with a Roomba so that he can do human work.

Notch, creator of game Minecraft on his billion dollar wealth.

"The problem with getting everything is you run out of reasons to keep trying, and human interaction becomes impossible due to imbalance."

>>36222587
All I can do is shitpost faglord.
>do something about it
>not born into power
>try to force it
>takes whole life
>doesn't even change anything because only one
Shitposting is the propaganda that matters more. OR
>try to force with violence
>end up water boarded when powers that be get threatened
Nothing I can do but shitpost Mr. Homo.
>>36222728
The intelligence comes from being born into a nice rich environment. Nepotism is faggy as hell and NOT fair. They could pick the people that run it based on talent rather than the need for the money to continue their childhood's level of status in society, but instead they make the money not unfair. You act like good genes goes with the passed down money. The goverment could've been designed to stop nepotism faggotry. It's wrong. They were raised to be pretentious that's all.

>>36222867
make the money unequal* not not unfair

>grow up rich
>Everyone assumes I was spoiled
>actually only have three video games while my middle class friends and cousins have collections numbering in the dozens
>parents are super demanding and get butthurt if I don't get into the best schools and get the best grades
>parents are always away on business, sometimes both at the same time


At least I never have to worry about money, which is a big plus, but holy shit it pisses me off when people say I was spoiled.

>>36222867
>calling me a faglord
Well, I was just looking for good answers. I'm sure that the Lavoisierian option outside of birthright and revolution exists, even if it hasn't been found.

>>36222850
He doesn't have the skills or education to do any work that hasn't been taken by actual robots so then what?
He's going to be mugging you after you get off work because he knows your schedule and your habits all because he can't get a job now and wasn't lucky enough to be born into a rich family.

>>36222589
they created a buisness, giving you jobs, contributing to society

>>36222751
how does this mean rich people contribute less to society? a rich guy gave the janitor a job oppotunity, thats better than being unemployed

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>>36222827
im rich because inheritance
never worked a dayr in my life and i have millions

>>36223040
Most rich people think the kind of jobs that actually benefit society are beneath them, and refuse to work in them.

A plumber, garbage man or construction worker all are hard jobs that don't make as much money compared to some engineer or business man but they are much more important to the community.
But because they are dirty jobs, they don't command any respect, so the rich avoid them.

>>36223013
sure, we can't all be born into a rich family, but most rich kids become buisness owners, creating jobs and products for everyone else.

>>36223029
>tfw that rich guy works from home
>implying that someone who chooses honest slave labor over comfortable criminality would revert to a criminal if the honest labor were taken away
He'll either join the millions of other people like him and kill the richfags or do something else

>>36223040
No the hell they didn't it takes generations. One has a tiny shop or a middle class job and he then has a child that might be lucky enough to make it big. No one ever just jumps up from lower class and creates something big. It takes generations of STABILITY.

>>36222827
never worked a day in my life and have millions
god bless inheritance

>>36223176
if you have millions then why are you here? should you be outside having fun?

>>36223112
>a man that had to physically hurt himself for years wouldn't beat break down your door and tap dat ass
>a man that had been disrespected his whole life
>a man that had been robbed by over taxation
>a man that felt threatened by the cops every time they went by because to be poor is to go to jail

>>36223195
Alot of rich people become sociopathic because they see everyone as shit that doesn't have money. They get away with anything so why not be cruel? The only real reason people are trained to be nice is because of possible consequences. He could be here to watch us suffer and bait us all day to get his rocks off.

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>>36222554
>what is rent seeking

>>36223213
Yeah. Just try organizing all of those guys into a militia. Good luck, sincerely.

>>36220656
>trailer home
>high-speed Internet
>gaming PC
>upward-facing projector by bed
>enough money in savings to generate interest for consumable goods (food, bus fare, toiletries, health insurance, hookers)

what else do you want? literally everyone was more miserable than you a century ago.

>>36223324
a smartphone app that holds my hand through the process of being an adult while tracking my progress and sending frequent updates to the NSA. :3

>>36222192
>rich
>can't take care of that acne

hmmm

>>36223324
>high-speed Internet
>gaming PC
>upward-facing projector by bed
>enough money in savings to generate interest for consumable goods (food, bus fare, toiletries, health insurance, hookers)
I don't have enough money for any of this.

>>36223079
workers, individually, are worth less than a CEO. Yes, we'd be fucked if all workers just left, but a dingle worker compared to a CEO is worth less. sorry to break it to you.

>>36223116
Americans really take it for granted that they can start out in the lower class and make it to middle, or even upper class. You're right, keepoing the family rich requires stability, but " then has a child that might be lucky enough to make it big" i disagree with. There is no such thing as luck, you have to work hard to get anywhere, same goes for tich kids, they can't just shut down daddys buisness and live the rest of their lives in monaco.

>>36222043
Elliott had a BMW

>>36223373
Why did you leave out trailer home?
WHERE DO I GET A TRAILER
TELL ME YOUR SECRETS

>>36222589
>The rich do literally less than the poor.
He said contribute, not do.

>>36223278
mabye you should work towards making the govornment smaller so they can't be lobbied, instead of making it larger. Fucking socialists, honestly

>>36223376
America has less economic mobility and more wealth inequality than most of Europe.
>There is no such thing as luck
lol
>they can't just shut down daddys buisness and live the rest of their lives in monaco.
They could and some do. Look at Dan Bilzerian he just fucks around and plays poker on his Dad's ill gotten gains.

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>>36223291
The locust are a plague. Ever notice how le blacks rampage entire cities ever now and again? Imagine that but way worse. The whites were the original priates raping and pillaging, sailing all over the world. If you get everyone rampaging you cannot contain it. Those blacks do it because of some travon dying and such, but if all of the lower class jobs go it'd be way worse and it would be organized. That's why the literally poor devoid of good nepotism niggers made so many gangs. The big gangs happen if the robots happen because business is businesss.
>couldn't find a better reaction image so I'm posting ironic non-white jk pic

>>36223376
That exact mentality will be the downfall of not just CEO's career, but most of the workforce in America,family smdh.
The working class can only be treated so poorly until they have had enough and fight back.

I have around 40K saved up from working my simple $12/hour job since I have no hobbies, friends, family and hate drugs and alcohol.

I just sit around posting here, work and sleep. What should I do with my money fellow robots? I'm not rich by any stretch, but I feel like I should be doing something with it.

>>36223521
You're not making a good point that people in your situation can remain coherent enough for leadership. I always hope for an accident.

>>36223516
Regulatory capture isn't the only form of rent seeking.
I'm sure profit seeking corporations will treat us perfectly fine absent any government.

>>36223376
>There is no such thing as luck, you have to work hard to get anywhere, same goes for tich kids, they can't just shut down daddys buisness and live the rest of their lives in monaco.
Actually, if you own a nice enough property you can just rent it out indefinitely and live in Europe in pretty decent conditions. A rich friend pointed out to me that I would never have to work a day in my life if I rented my parents' house after they retired and moved back to their home country. I won't do it because

A) I want to save the money and start a scholarship fund for disadvantaged socially awkward youths
And
B) I really like my career

But it's totally possible for rich kids to not have to work, if they have the right setup.

>>36223376
That used to be the case in 50's, but not any more lol.

If you were born into a poor of lower middle class family its kind of impossible to make the jump to a class that is within the 1%.
the only way to do that is to be extremely lucky and win the lottery and make some smart investments or accumulate your wealth illegally(which is pretty dangerous)

>>36223519
wealth inequality means the country is sucessful in creating free enterprise. As i've said, rich people create your jobs and the shoes you wear, there is no reason to also take their well deserved money away by taxation. i am of course guessing that is what you want.

sure, some are so rich that they can live off daddys gains, and so what. The money daddy earned was deserved, except if he lobbied the govornment, so what if he spends it, that just puts the money back into the economy, making buisnesses grown, providing more jobs and better products

>>36223627
>wealth inequality means the country is sucessful in creating free enterprise
No it means that a small amount of the population owns majority of the wealth and have policies in place to make sure that never changes.

Which has fuck all to do with creating jobs since they just wind up sending most of any work over seas because they hate american citizens since they cost too much employ.

>>36223573
you should put it in an index fund so that it becomes $400,000 by the time you're 60 idort

It's nice to have security, especially since I have no friends or family to take care of me if I get sick or something. But, people hate you by default for being rich.

>>36223627
>wealth inequality means the country is sucessful in creating free enterprise
Multiple award winning and well regarded economists disagree.
Rentiers don't create new value they just leverage power to get an ever increasing slice of the pie.

>>36223376
Ugh no we don't take it for granted idiot it never happens very often because not everyone can do it because of the lack of stability from being born with less opportunity than your more rich peers. You are a glitch in the matrix to skip classes in one generation. You don't go from the bottom to the top in just one gen. You can go up one, sure, just about anyone normal could, in the past anyway, but not all the way up. Statistically you have a coin toss of doing better than your parents. It's been getting worse and worse since the 70s here, they've been paying us less and less. We have less and less rights, and opportunities in murka. Look it up. 50 percent don't do any better, and just because you do better doesn't mean you do waay better, despite our getting richer all of the time, the country does, but the money aint evenly distributed.

And no it's not literally luck. What it is is that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. If you do a little bit of saving then the saving gets bigger and bigger every new gen. You are just as shitty as your father was. The issue is the nepotism because if there's no college fund and such then you're fucked, and if you don't give your kid such things then he's fucked, but if you do then the power grows. The college fund becomes a kid passing down his store to the next father passing down a giant business. That is how it usually works. Saved money over time. And in murka we are saving less and less so it is less and less likely that the kid will be LUCKY ENOUGH TO GO A LEVEL HIGHER ON THE ECONOMIC LADDER

>>36223553
yes, fight the guy that is giving you the oppotunity to work and support your family, FUCK that guy.
>>36223588
i'm not an ancap, govornment just shouldn't be able to be lobbied. Keep the police, courts, military, all the really nessesary shit, get rid of all the growth chocking regulations
>>36223618
how is this any different than renting an apartment. there is nothing wrong with giving rich folk a place to live
>>36223624
thats because obama doubeld your debt, and then added 2 trillion more. You need a reagan to deregulate and allow a free and cheaper market to flourish
>>36223705
>>36223749
yes, people are sucessful at creating jobs and
cheap/quality products. Really, look further than what it says in the tin.
>>36223750
rome wasn't built in a day.

Marry an ugly girl from a rich family. No matter who you marry you'll stop being attracted to the them so just buckle down for personality and money

>>36223938
Rome didn't fall in one day either.

Both of my parents were killed in a car crash and after inheriting the house, pensions, and life insurance, I got about 1.5 million pounds. I haven't left my house since they died in 2015.

Trust me, good relationships with friends and family is infinity better than being rich. I was so much happier when I had family and friends than now. Now I have no friends or family but I am "rich".

>any member of the working class of a 1st world nation bitching about poverty

If you have AC, basic internet, and don't share your 20 sqft room with your extended family then youre wealthier then a shit of people in the world. The "working class revolution" can't work in a society where most manufacturing have left and all that's left is retail jobs

>>36223938
>You need a reagan to deregulate and allow a free and cheaper market to flourish
How can you still fall for reaganomics when the evidence shows it does not work?

>There's this idea in our society that rich people are job creators, and if you tax them more, then they'll create less jobs. This is simply a misunderstanding of how the economy works - it's actually the middle class that creates the jobs with the demand that forces businesses to increase employment.
>Look, corporate profits are at a 50-year high, while unemployment is also at a 50-year high. If it was true that the rich and business were the job creators, we'd be drowning in jobs today.
-Nick Hanauer worth 1.1 billion.

>there's been class warfare going on for the last 20 years, and my class has won.
-Warren Buffet

>>36223356
Rich people are not exempt from this.

>>36223373
>>36223415
If you make 20k a year after tax, I think this is feasible. We're talking satisfied for life happy at a 30k a year salary.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2013/08/03/money-quick-tips-mobile-homes-hosuing/2610469/

Annual Costs:
Utilities: 1000
Mortgage: 12000
High speed Internet: 1100

Adjustable:
Food: 2000
Health Insurance: 4000
Toiletries: 500
Hookers: 2500

One-Time Costs
Projector: 1000
Computer: 1000

>>36224069
I don't have AC.

Because I live in England

>>36223938
>how is this any different than renting an apartment. there is nothing wrong with giving rich folk a place to live
Are you illiterate or something? I ask because you don't seem to have understood what I wrote at all. I was just pointing out to the guy I was responding to that you don't actually have to work once you have a certain level of inherited wealth, you just have to put the money in the right safe investment. I wasn't making any moral judgment.

Are you even rich? I'm rich myself and nothing is more pathetic than an econ 101 libertarian white knighting me.

>>36224144
Can I have some money so I can help my mom out with rent?

>>36223750
>>36224034
let me give you a more thurrow response:

I get that you can't always get what you want. But if you try sometime you might just find you get what you need.
I'm not certain on the 50/50 of doing better than your parents, that is news to me.
>We have less and less rights, and opportunities in murka
you can thank a certain black man for that, be fucked your country
So what if the money is not equally distributred, i hate to break it to you, but you dont deserve a rich guys money, Even if he has enough to support 5 generations with it. If the rich guy wants to spend his money on donations, i got no problem with that, but dont take it by force. As i've said, a construction worker produces less value alone than a CEO does alone. Therefor, the rich guy in a way deserves more money than the construction worker. If we paied all people equally, why would construction workers want to improve his skills to earn more, he's already earning as much as the rich guy. And why would the rich guy want to earn more, he does so much more of value, yet gets paied the same as a plumber.

>>36224237
Pure ideoIogy.

>>36224237
>>you can't always get what you want. But if you try sometime
Stopped reading there you faggot. Did you really have to put that shit in there after typing out all that shit? I'm not going to fucking read your gay ass shit now becaseu it was bound to be gay no matter what but now? Good god man.

>>36224062
You could buy friends
Send me a cool 100 pounds and I'll be your friend for the day

>>36224237
>blaming the results of inequality for inequality rather than the factors that led to the inequality in the first place
you're on your own, idiot

>>36224308
I'm jaded enough that I've given up on bothering with friends

>>36220656
they also hate you op.

>>36220656
>hating rich people
>not hating the bourgeoisie/global elites
there are plenty of rich people who actually deserve their wealth OP

>>36224144
i understood exactly what you wrote, i don't see what the problem is. If i understand you previous comment correctly, you said people that rent penthouses to rich people do nothing for society. Am i wrong? explain to me how im an idiont, please.
no, i am poor

>>36224358
Then what are you gonna do with your money?
You know, 1.5 million can get you some high quality drugs that'll help not be so jaded anymore and you might be able to resume living

>>36224290
sorry for making a lighthearted joke, i am obviously completely gay

>>36224358
If I were in your shoes, I would spend all my time volunteering at pet shelters and retirement homes.

Rich guy here.
Inheritance and shit.
AMA, I gots time.

>>36224391
Drugs don't make you feel better. Druggies are lying to themselves.

>>36224327
i want to make this absolutely clear; there is NOTHING wrong with wealth inequality.

>>36222751
yeah but min wage jobs require little to no experience, being a business man, however, does.

>>36223079
plumber garbage man and construction worker jobs only exist because companies higher people to do those things.

>>36223277
You are stereotyping all rich people as sociopath assholes

>>36223618
This is true in theory but not common

>>36223624
Yeah getting in the 1% from lower class is nearly impossible, but that's just the cards you were dealt. Anyone can live comfortably if they graduate high school and get a good job, that is if you live in a good country

>>36223705
Taxing companies can have many backsides, price, product quality, amount of jobs, etc.

>>36223749
Some economist disagree. also in regard to renters all money earned is money spent, spending money will result in companies making more money result in more and better quality products, resulting in more jobs.

>>36224372
Nobody deserves to be rich when others are starving.

>>36224448
Life is a bit too short to waste on these pragmatic views don't you think?
All feelings are lies
If it makes you feel better then it makes you feel better, the cause doesn't matter

>>36224456
By that logic all people in first world countries should give up there money to starving African children? It's not your fault if someone is poor.

>>36224455
>also in regard to renters all money earned is money spent
But they don't spend it...
>spending money will result in companies making more money result in more and better quality products, resulting in more jobs.
The middle class spending, the super rich just accumulate wealth and they don't buy the same things when they do spend.

>>36224455
>plumber garbage man and construction worker jobs only exist because companies higher people to do those things


No
They exist because all those jobs are necessary for the functioning of society

>>36224505
>But they don't spend it
Unspent money will eventually
A) Be passed on to someone else until it is spent
or
B) be lost/destroyed raising the value of money

>The middle class spending, the super rich just accumulate wealth and they don't buy the same things when they do spend.

Same thing as before

>>36224455
>This is true in theory but not common
You're joking right? The wealthy don't have work if they don't want to.
Look at Steve Cohen, dude has billions of dollars and he still goes back to work after getting caught cheating. It's just a game to them, they need a higher score.

>>36224455
>min wage jobs require little to no experience
Not really no.
That hasn't been the case for quite some time now.

>>36224504
It's not your fault if someone is poor but if you're hoarding wealth while your neighbors are struggling then you're immoral

>>36224455
>plumber garbage man and construction worker jobs only exist because companies higher people to do those things.
youre retarded if you actually believe this.

They exist because they are needed for society to function properly you stupid fuck

>>36224547
>Unspent money will eventually
>A) Be passed on to someone else until it is spent
>or
>B) be lost/destroyed raising the value of money
Or they'll just keep accumulating until we're all dead.
It's not helpful when they spend it on lobbyists and finding ways to further control and extract value from everyone else.

>>36224522
Without a company to hire people for these jobs who will do it?The company makes these jobs because they are required, without someone stepping up and doing these society will be forced to rely on volunteers or forced work. Volunteers are not efficient and forced work is unethical.

>>36224571
>Rich people hoard their money

This meme needs to stop

If you're not happy with your value why not just make yourself more valuable?

>>36220656
money is fucking important, with enough money you can not work for a single day in your life.

Money is a threshold, once you have enough, it provides you its max happiness, but after that point, you don't need money anymore, so you need to invest in other fields to find happiness (family, friend, gf

>>36224601
>Without a company to hire people for these jobs who will do it?


The government usually

>>36224663
how is the govornment going to get that money to start a buisness

>>36222360
Sounds like my cousin and my aunt who is an enabling faggot.

>>36224722
Through taxes usually

>>36224555
Yeah because you really need the college education to flip a burger. (I'm not saying those jobs aren't hard they are, it's just that anyone can do it)

>>36224571
Pretend we live in a society where everyone earns equal income. What's the point of trying to reach success when you want get any money from it? And if you mean this personal morals why should other people be forced to follow your morals?

>>36224591
>keep accumulating until we're all dead
Um... okay? But keeping that much money is impractical. A smart business man would invest it.

>It's not helpful when they spend it on lobbyists and finding ways to further control and extract value from everyone else.
it is helpful for it creates jobs

>>36220656

>there's literally nothing stopping you from getting money and being successful

stop being an entitled kid

>>36224794
My lack of education is stopping me actually

>>36224740
is the middle class going to pay for that? it the top guys going to, so they cant expand their buisness, or pay their workers appropriately?
You're going to run everyone out of buisness, the only people that will be left are the working class and the govornment. The govornment will provide jobs, and then tax the people working at those jobs. After the govornment has gotten a monopoly, whats to stop them from making you all slaves? The govornment is a scam, my man

>>36224663
Yeah but corporations doing this on top of some government created jobs will result in lower taxes and more jobs

>>36224787
>it is helpful for it creates jobs
Except it doesn't. Using money doesn't inherently create jobs.

>>36224787
>What's the point of trying to reach success when you want get any money from it?


Personal satisfaction
Feeling good about yourself
Self esteem
Etc
Besides for those people who can't just do things for themselves but have to show everyone else off to feel good there are other facets of life to compete in other than money

>>36224809
How so? If by lack of education means mental disability you have the government to live off of. Obviously you still wont get a lot of money but no one can control that. If you mean something else, how does lack of edu stop you from doing min wage jobs?

>>36224787
>And if you mean this personal morals why should other people be forced to follow your morals?


Life in society ideally means everyone follo the same morals
A society full of snowflakes is bound to cause conflict

>>36224455
Not all were impied to be sociopaths just that post was pondered to be a sociopath. I was supposing that he was, and as to why he'd be here even when rich because that'd be his fun. That's a reason. And it IS a tendency. Not that he even is rich, I was just supposing.

>>36224813
>is the middle class going to pay for that? it the top guys going to, so they cant expand their buisness, or pay their workers appropriately?


Everyone born under that government is going to pay for it

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>>36222970
You're rich, you don't have the fucking right to be pissed you spoiled piece of shit. I don't see you eating out of garbages and selling your kiddy pussy to disgusting white euro men. This thread reeks of first world babby problems.

>>36224842
But if that's the only source of motivation there still will be little initiative

>>36224831
Spending money will make companies grow, thus they can make more jobs, and they will for more money

>>36224787
>you don't need college education to flip a burger
You do if that's what everyone else applies with on their resume.

>>36224829
There is a finite number of plumbers and garbage men that are necessary

What side of /r9k/ did I just land on? This is a good thread and it deserves to be bumped.

>>36224921
agreed. only poor people can be robots.

>>36224883
having different morals does not make you a 'snowflake'

Do rich people have private security and bullet proof stuff they never talk about?
I'm surprised people don't murder them more.

>>36224924
>But if that's the only source of motivation there still will be little initiative

Not really anon
You're a robot so obviously you don't even know what self esteem is but "feeling good" is a pretty big motivation to every living thing that ever lived
Money is just a means to that end

>>36224937
Then keep trying, there will always be an opening

>>36224945
A good economy will open people up to more opportunities, like having kids to take those jobs.

>>36224909
>you will pay the govornment for employment
genius

>>36224958
Yes it does
Oh look at me I'm different and special from all the others so I'm going to do what I want how I want to even if it's detrimental to the society that allows amd facilitates my whole way of living

>>36222970
>parents are gone
>get to do whatever you want
>implying you had no allowance
If it really sucked you'd have ran away from home.

>>36225024
You'll pay the government for a service

>>36224787
No one is arguing that you need a college degree to work at mcdonalds, kid(but its starting to go that route)

Employers just want you to have a shit ton of experience as well as a set of specific skills just so you can work for min wage job.

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>maybe if we give the rich even more money it'll work this time and they'll give us all jobs

>>36225016
>A good economy will open people up to more opportunities, like having kids to take those jobs.

What
Why would the kids take on those jobs
Like I said there is a finite number of plumber and garbage men jobs

>>36222995
You can go on strike and you can get replaced that is all. The laws aren't set up to keep balence by holding back the rich becaseu the rich make the laws, but instead only holds back the poor. It's half assed. Doesn't come full circle.

>>36225002

Would you take a full times job (8 hr day, 5 times a week) for no pay?

>>36224882
How does one become successful off of disability or minimum wage jobs?

>>36225016
>Then keep trying, there will always be an opening
>t. ive never had to spend countless hours working on applications and going to interviews only to be rejected

>>36220656
Then why did you vote Trump?

>>36225120
If I like doing it, yes

>>36225101
Oh sorry I though you said finite number of people to take those jobs. But more people being born will mean more jobs being created anyway

>>36225037
LOL xd, you only have different opinions cuz your a spefal snowfwake. Self preservation? LOL XDlook at this snowflake guys

>>36225167
I didn't

/oegamain

>>36225176
No that's besides the point.
if the job wasn't what you considered fun, but still made you look good would you do it?

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>>36225167
>Then why did you vote Trump?
I didn't.

>>36225016
>there's gonna be an openning
They wait for the applications to stack then they pick the best ones. Alot of businesses go three months without filling an empty postion. A normal time to wait is 2 months before it's filled. You know how many people give better applications than you in a 30 day period? And it's not like they're in a hurry, the long time workers there love the extra hours.

>>36225243
Made me look good how?
If it brings any benefit to me then yes probably

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>>36220656
>i'm moderately rich

>>36225199
>But more people being born will mean more jobs being created anyway


No it won't
These jobs are finite because there is a finite amount of streets to sweep and of plumbing to do

>>36225286
How exactly would that benefit you?

>>36225265
Then why would people without college education get jobs at all?

>>36225111
Antoine Lavoisier, the father of modern chemistry, believed that there was a middle ground between the rich and the poor.
And your saber-rattling got him executed.
Now we have to start over.

Nice trips, though. I've been thinking that there should be an app for making and submitting laws to your local legislation via snail mail. Good idea y/n.

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>>36220656
I don't hate any group of people, I only hate individuals based n their merit.

>>36225199
>LOL xd, you only have different opinions cuz your a spefal snowfwake. Self preservation? LOL XDlook at this snowflake guys

Exactly that
Self preservation my ass, it's selfishness
The society is trying to preserve itself, and you're part of tbat society so you're included
Yet if you think you're above helping it when you can you're just using it for yoir benefit without giving back when you can
Enough people like that and everything crumbles

>>36225316
Yes these jobs are finite. But eventually with the evolution of technology more jobs will be created for newer technologies.

>>36225338
>How exactly would that benefit you?


"Looking good" is a benefit

>>36225060
how the fuck is this any better than private companies then. In a free market, people are batteling for costumers by making cheaper or better products than the rivals. They're also competing for employers, if a buisness pays their workers more than rivals, rivals can't expand = less money. None of this happens in communism

>>36225386
>eventually with the evolution of technology more jobs will be created for newer technologies.
Proof?

>>36225350
I only hate people that worship Eris.

>>36225371
Self preservation is a natural feeling in all animals that understand the concept of death, self preservation is what keeps you alive. Sorry for wanting to get rewarded for my work.

>>36225386
technology advancement actually makes things more efficient and higher efficiency means less people necessary meaning less jobs

I don't hate the rich as a class but I don't particularly care for them much like they don't particularly care for me as is evident by many things.

>>36225398
Because the government's goals is the betterment of the nation and the nation includes each and every person born under it
The business goal is profit for the business owners

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>>36225458
>I do not get a boner from this

>>36225416
Screw every other animal
They don't have the capacity to think rationally like humans do
If you want to behave like every other animal then you'll live like every other animal
And guess what
Animal lives suck

>>36225468
>Because the government's goals is the betterment of the nation and the nation includes each and every person born under it
Or at least it was supposed to be.

>>36222554
You know most of today's rich people inherit their wealthy generationally right?

>>36225510
they contribute to the family business

>>36225502
>tfw you don't have animal strength/sight/smell
your capacity is lacking as well, padawan

>>36225404
History. There are tons of jobs that are now obsolete, and there are tons of jobs that are newer. If say, robot maids were created. People would need to be hired to program, produce, and manage the production of them. Along with advertising, and much more.

>>36225389
Sure socially, but is a third of your day worth 'looking good'. In a society like this for all you know most people would think you are just stupid.

>>36225433
Yes, but jobs are need for that new technology. Who makes the things that make other things more efficient? And what's your solution?

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>>36225408
I worship the sun. So checkmate Christcuck.

>>36225506

Yeah but self preservation is a trait of all animals, think about this. If animals don't have self preservation, they die. Then they are extinct.

>>36225468
except those filthy rich people giving you jobs and cheaper products, they can burn in hell
the govornment has NO place in the market and should only serve people with police, courts, defence and firedepartments. you know, stuff that actually bennefit every single person, and not just the greedy poor socialists

>>36224382
>If i understand you previous comment correctly, you said people that rent penthouses to rich people do nothing for society. Am i wrong?
Yes you're wrong, because
1) I never mentioned penthouses, I only brought up my parent's house
2) I never made a moral judgment about renting

So yeah, you're an idiot. Fucking stupid poorfag.

>>36225592
As I said above, I don't hate the rich, but putting it in "giving you" terms makes it sound a lot more selfless than it really is while reality is a competition between individuals and groups. They want to exploit my labor as much as possible and if we both end up profiting, me via their investment and management expertise they via my labor, then it's a win win.

But they aren't giving me anything.

>>36225592
>except those filthy rich people giving you jobs and cheaper products


GIVING ME
OH LUCKY ME
THEY'RE SO GENEROUS TO ME
ALL THEY DO IS FOR MY HAPPINESS

>>36225588
Society is the self-preserving animal for humans you dummy
Instead of each man for himself we have a society

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>>36220656
don't worry socialism can't be stopped is evolution

>>36225634
>But they aren't giving me anything.
other than a job and cheap products

>>36225640
i'm so sorry you cant get what you want for free
greedy fuck

>>36225706
They're giving you money that you'll give back to them? Huh.

>>36225706
They need me too for my labor and the cheap products are the result of our interaction ultimately. It's a reciprocal relationship and it's very arguable who puts more in than they get.

Either way, they aren't "giving me" anything.

>>36225706
how bout you give me money, you have plenty to spare.

even being raised in a middle income family would've been preferable to being raised by poor retarded parents. it should be illegal for poor people to breed.

>>36225533
Contributing to something that should be wildly successful on its own in a free market economy if they go so wealthy off of it in the first place?
lmfao fuck off Dennis Prager. The rich sure didn't contribute very much after Reagan cut taxes and regulations for them.

I seriously don't understand people who feel indebted to rich people in some way. I mean don't "hate them" sure but feeling grateful when these guys are getting richer in the process too and benefitting massively otherwise they wouldn't be doing it? Have some self-respect, drones, jesus.

>>36225584
>implying I would try to emulate someone who failed at getting rid of the jews
Great. You worship a product of chaos, and not God, Himself. Whatever.

>>36225611
>Actually, if you own a nice enough property you can just rent it out indefinitely
>actually, if i build and apartment complex, i can just rent it out indefinitely
what is the difference, why is one bad

>>36220656
go be a commie somewhere else op.
bet you love Eliot thou.

It doesn't fucking matter.
Look at shkreli, he dicks all day long in his flat playing lol like a neet.
I'm not even middle class yet I fucking dread dying, imagine you had millions, a beautiful wife, all the houses and cars you could buy, maybe successful companies, and you will still get cancer. If you don't wish to work, find a lifestyle that is cheap, be crearive, you are not the only lazy fuck.

>>36225820
You mad Porky? your time is up our time is now!

>>36225726
Providing then, if that is easier to swallow.
you're right, they need you, but you need them more. All i'm trying to say is: Rich folks are the reason you guys are employed and can buy a bigmac for 2 dollars or whatever. The only way they could've gotten rich is by selling products or services that consumers like. There is lierally nothing wrong with being rich

>>36225903
>The only way they could've gotten rich is by selling products or services that consumers like
Objectively false.
The idea that someone's wealth directly corresponds to the value they created is one of the biggest scams.

>>36225741
If rich people want to spend their money on greedy lazy fuck like you, bless them. But don't you dare take it by force. Make something productive instead of wallowing in self pity over how much worse off you are
Pieces of shit

>>36225941
>But don't you dare take it by force
Why not?

>>36225903
>Providing then

Fucking idiot, the only people who "provided" for me were my parents because they expected nothing in return. The people employing me expect a lot, sometimes more than I and most working class people would consider reasonable.

>Rich folks are the reason you guys are employed

Ok, then ask them to drop out so we ungrateful plebs can starve. We'll see if they like it more.

>>36225934
if you're gonna tell me that "people are born in rich families, its unfair" or "they lobby the govornment", then save it. That is far from the norm, and is a fucking strawman

>>36225349
Bad becasue most people are idiots and assholes on top of that, and it'd end up being a democracy thing, then at the end of the day the rich have to idiot filter the ideas, so it's just their idea and not ours.
>he got killed
Sorry but who cares? So it's a gray world. And some kids like getting fucked by pedos, but who cares? It's still a problem, class is, no matter how many levels there are.

So it sounds pointless. I'm anti-democracy though even if it werked.
>>36225338
Experience. That's why now days to make up for it, when young and not very educated, you have to do volunteer work. Working for free with nothing in return, until you use it to beg for your actual job. Very insulting to work for free. That can get out of control too. What if everyone's worked for free longer than you? It'll just get competitive. You'll all get more and more poor as you compete to see who can go the longest without getting paid.

>>36225941
>Make something productive instead of wallowing in self pity over how much worse off you are
This is /r9k/, you fucking nigger. Every thread is how about you envy someone better off than you. Be it, for looks or money, or how much sex they had.

Pay for my college, pls

>>36225976
And again, I never said being rich is wrong. But feeling grateful that I get to work so they make more money too LMFAO get fucked.

>>36225954
you dont deserve a single penny that you don't work for. and no, forcing people to give up their well deserved wealth is not productive, you're biting the hand that is feeding you

>>36225982
>and is a fucking strawman
How?

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>>36226022
>rich people
>well deserved wealth
I can't wait to kill some rich fucks or take their stuff.

>>36226038
no one is arguing in favor of lobbying, and being born into a rich family is beside the point

Whoops, every comment is autofiltered in my filters for some reason. I guess this is the troll line.
___________________________________

For the uninformed, you are trolled if you are below this line.

>>36226049
If a person is rich, it means some fuck have bought their products. they won't buy their products if its shit compared to rivals.
How the fuck is it not well deserved?
>b-buh, they have so much money, why cant i take it by force:(((((
fuck off, man

>>36226049
Would you be happier if rich people didn't exist?

>Yes
Then don't think about them. Out of sight, out of mind.

>>36226022
>you dont deserve a single penny that you don't work for

Desert is a tricky subject. You can argue they don't deserve making increasingly more and more money compared to everyone else either. After all they're in control of the system and ultimately forcing you to accept their conditions.

Sure, your agreement is "voluntary" but you have no other real choice either.

Even libertarians like you who are all ultimately about natural hierarchies and shit try to argue in desert terms. Funny stuff.

>say 5 words
>over 200+ replies to your thread
I must remember this for future shitposting

>>36222554
this

rich people create infinitely more value than an office worker

an office worker creates a predictable amount of value, is more or less replaceable and even the standouts don't produce value orders of magnitude above the average worker

the executive makes major risky decisions, such acquisitions and new product lines that generate far, far more value and productivity than some wagecuck selling 4 printers an hour instead of 3

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>>36220656
Everyone does except for the beta cucks who worship them because they lack intelligence or basic survival instincts.

The rich are scum.

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>>36226122
Dubs confirm, screenshotting for proof.
Cut primary power from thread.
Answer "yes commander" if you think that killing this thread would be funny

>>36226139
>You can argue they don't deserve making increasingly more and more money compared to everyone else either.
>but you have no other real choice either.
if you don't like their products, don't buy them. Then they'll have to either go bankrupt, or make better products
why the fuck is it so hard to understand, this is literally econ 101, it doesn't get simpler than this

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>>36225779
I never said either one was bad, you dumb poorfag. No wonder you're poor if you have trouble with basic understanding.

>>36226145
It's because 4chan is full of hyper-libertarians and people wallowing in self-pity. They can't have moderate positions, rich people are either complete scum or the best thing ever that you should be grateful for.

>>36226131
Half the financial industry is just finding new ways to scam people out of money and into debt.

>>36226214
In that case, I'd have to buy no products and live in a cave. I never even mentioned wanting them to go bankrupt or wanting them to make better products or that free markets don't work well.

You fucking ideologues are boring as shit.

>>36226253
you're gonna have to be much more specific, please
>>36226276
yes, just because apple is making expencive and ship phones you should live in a cave
water tight arguments

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>>36226334
>yes, just because apple is making expencive and ship phones you should live in a cave water tight arguments

What the fuck is that even about? When did I ever argue anything like that? I'm gonna lose it.

>>36226122
>>36226201
>>36225870
I wish I was this retarded. It must be peaceful.

>>36226334
expensive and shit****

>>36226334
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/12/upshot/why-a-harvard-professor-has-mixed-feelings-when-students-take-jobs-in-finance.html?_r=0

>>36226334
Do you have down's syndrome?
Original

>>36226362
>if you don't like their products, don't buy them.
>In that case, I'd have to buy no products and live in a cave.
>no, that is ridiculess
>I'm gonna lose it.
great discussion, sergie

Free market libertarianism has never worked in reality and will never work.

>>36226399
i had no idea this was the case, to be honest.
However, i am sure some guy will find that helping people to avoid scams like this is a lucrative buisnessplan, that will run those fucks out of buisness

>>36226437
It's because you didn't get my original point in the first place, arguing with strawmen like the good libertarian ideologue you are. My point about desert was completely different than what you made it out to be.

I mentioned nothing about not buying their products or about free markets not working well in the first place.

You are fucking retarded.

>>36226465
>wil never work
Can I have your autograph Nostradamus?

>>36226536
With scarcity libertarian and free markets just leads to cronyism and similar.
Without scarcity you don't need free markets anymore.

>>36224237
>It's the " muh hard earn money" rebuttal

>>36226371
You don't even know how peaceful this retardation is.
Get seven years and two beers behind you, then we'll talk.

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>>36222360
>you will never own a 5150

please forgive me for phoneposting

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Muh econ 101!

>>36226371
also I anger-sex wrote you a song
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ey8DF9tKE8
ilu anon

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>>36224954
This is a nice thread and I approve of it.

>>36226749
Sounds peaceful honestly.

>>36226981
>>36226981
Shut up and post your cock you stupid gay faggot :<

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This is now a thread for posting your tits, be ye man or female. This I decree as the thread killer.

>>36227284
>D0 (Y0U) FEEL IN C0NTR0L?

>>36228406
>D0 (Y0U) FEEL IN CHARGE*

>>36226153
Yeah, everyone knows that the rich work 200,000 times harder than everyone else. I know a rich person. They just screech constantly while light erupts from all their orfices in order to generate value from the void.

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Rich people cant have it their way forever., with this bullying we see in this thread....things WILL change....at *ANY* cost necessary,,,we should plan a meet up to discuss further....

>>36228861
>school shooter meetup
:DDD

>>36224455
>higher
Kys.

>>36228861
>>>Infinitychan is dataway .

>>36222331
Yeah i make a little over 50k in a low COL area and it isn't that great. Im still alone.

But I have some mindfulness that I dont have to worry much about money. Be grateful anon, see what it is like when you are making $8/hr. Money doesnt buy happiness completely, but having it certainly reduces stress.

>>36229008
not a grammar nazi by any means but this really bothers me

>>36229253
let's higher people on 4/20

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>>36228984
no, im thinking we can just make some fliers or something, idk

I haven't eaten in 4 days and I got laid off for being too sickly at work
Tell me how money won't make me happy, I FUCKING dare you

>>36222851
The guy who made Minecraft is abillionaire? WTF

My parents are sort of rich should probably inherit at least 2 million possibly more. Though honestly anything less then 5 million is not much these days. Would probably have got 5 or more but need to split it with sister.

>tfw elliot rogers tier rich
>tfw elliot rogers tier autism
you literally cant win

there is nothing more pathetic than a NEET larping as a commie

I don't hate rich people that earned their wealth through hard work

It's the cunts that were born rich and prance around like faggots and act like everything is okay

>tfw born ugly robot
>tfw spend all my time studying while chads play outside
>tfw reading books and not getting laid
>tfw start my own business and use my accumulated knowledge to make it succeed
>tfw feel accomplished and like I beat the odds
>tfw finally start feeling a bit happy
> tfw go on r9k
>I hate rich people

They hate you too op

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>>36230491
lower you\r standards in terms of looks and weight

You need to date women whos shortcomings are compatible with your shortcomings...use that phrase when speaking to a matchmaker.

>>36220656
I fucking hate poor people. What's your point? I can make just as many arguments as to why poor people are just fucking garbage.

>Have ridiculous amounts of children to compensate for having no ambition to get out of the sewers
>Smell fucking bad all the time
>Bitch about the world owing them something
>Having no basic manners and being addicted to drugs and alcohol

>tfw born into a wealthy family
>tfw probably $50m in the family
>tfw you learn how to talk to people in a way that makes them do things for you without getting offended or anything
>tfw its a skill poorfags will never develop because they weren't raised with social parties full of millionaire business people in the family homes sometimes
>tfw the future is bright because no matter what I'm the oldest soon and will be the patriarch myself in time

I think I'll go for bunch and sail around the bay this weekend. Still no gf tho.

>>36231511
butthurt richfag detected

>tfw born into foster homes
>growing up with shitty food, shitty clothes
>never any friends, moving all the time
>keep to myself, keep to my studies
>marks get me into a good uni
>finally leave shithole "homes"
>4 years later, land 75k job
>finally making it, I'll do good for myself
>pop on to /r9k/ to rejoice with my fellow robots
>see this thread

Hmmmmmmmmmm

i fucking hate nazis and commies

>>36228512
hard work =/= more of value, this meme has to end

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>>36222192
You don't have to do this. The archive mods deleted any photos linking me to my trip.

Yeah. I also hate everyone more successful than me as any reasonable person should.

>>36230806
This. Inheritance should not exist.

I fucking hate fucking

>>36223040
making society a better place and just creating more shit we don't need are not the same things.

a lot of people do jobs that are a negative influence on the world, get over it wagie,

>>36220656

poor people are scum who are all violent retards who cant stop committing crime and having kids they cant afford, eagerly looking forward to robots taking the few jobs you have

>>36222751
>minimum wage jobs are in fact the hardest jobs in the world
>I have never worked a 24 hour shift in an emergency room trying to deal with the soul crushing pressure of saving a child trauma victims life

But sure, tell me how stocking soda in a warehouse is the hardest job on earth.

t. guy whos done both

>>36234892

If you are an EMT then you fall under the same category as that retail fucker that stocks soda and have my condolences.

If you're an RN or something, then you can fuck right the hell off. You guys barely do fuck all which is why you wind up not saving that child trauma victim.

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I hate people who are different from me

>>36234987
Wrong twice. I'm an MD. Fuck yourself.

>>36235019
>implying a doctor would post on fucking 4chan of all places
Fuck off and go larp somewhere else.

>>36235104
tfw to intelligent to be on 4chan

>>36235104
Seriously though, it's easier to accuse someone of being a LARPer than it is to accept the fact that minimum wage jobs are laughably easy compared to actual stressful jobs that get paid a lot of money.

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>>36220656
>doesn't understand value of work
>thinks he is entitled to something
>claims it's unfair that he has nothing
>demands a tribute from others because he has a right to vote

>>36235145
If you are actually an MD, then that would mean you are pretty old. This isn't the fucking 70's any more grandpa.
You don't make 20 dollars for stacking soda on shelves any more.
Minimum wage jobs these days expect more work out you for less pay and they treat you like shit.

>>36235145
You are of less value than a rich kid on Instagram. A entitled brat's next yacht party is worth more than the life of a kid you save.

>>36235214
I'm 32. I did warehouse work for 7.50 an hour when i was in college and medical school. It was an absolute snooze fest. My boss was kind of a prick, but a literal monkey could have done my job.

It's absurd that people are trying to compare the difficulty of minimum wage work to skilled professions.

>>36235305
>32 yo MD
almost got me with your bait. try harder next time

>>36235429
Graduate high school at 18, college at 22, medical school at 26 (You are now an MD). Residency at 30, fellowship at 31.

How long do you think medical school takes?

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I have nothing against people becoming rich through hard work, but some spoiled brats are born in wealth and they feel elevated from their peers since early childhood and this naivety of how society actually works and confidence for something you didn't earn yourself is what grinds my gears.

>>36235449
A long fucking time...?
Especially after the recesssion in 2008
Im calling shenanigans.

>>36235589
It takes exactly 4 years. Always has. You get your MD after those four years. Residency is another 3-6 on top of that, depending on what specialty you go into.

>>36231684
You're not a rich person.

>>36235617
This guy is correct about the timeline being viable. Where he's wrong is that the vast majority of rich people are not skilled professionals doing good (MDs) but rather actively malevolent people who exploit others and succeed through nepotism (Finance, Banking, Law etc.).

>>36236193
I'll bite.

You might be right. We have a little difference of opinion, but I can certainly see how you would draw that conclusion. Our difference is probably where we draw the line on being rich. In my eyes, a doctor making 200K or a business owner or a lawyer making similar money is definitely rich, despite not technically being 1% or .01%.

As you go into higher incomes (over a couple million dollars/yr) that are unattainable unless you're a CEO or in finance, i think you're statement becomes more accurate.

However, the part I dont completely agree with is that they exploit others. Again, I understand how a lot of people see it that way. But I dont see profiting off of your employees as exploitation. Forcing chinese kids to work in a sweatshop is exploitation. Paying someone a living wage in the US is not exploitation. Even as shitty as the evil Jewish CEOs are, they're still a net positive for society.

Yes, obviously there are a lot of people that dont get paid a living wage in the US (minimum wage is not a living wage). Then again, I also dont think that you should be able to support a family doing a minimum wage job.

>>36236461
I appreciate that you took the time to articulate your opinion. What is considered to be exploitation varies but I would also like to point out that the sweatshops you've mentioned are also owned by rich people. I understand that you feel some kind of superiority over minimum wage people since they aren't cardio-thoracic surgeons but the situation in which people are not paid a living wage is the result of rich people putting profits over their own employees. What I am trying to get at is that the average rich person is evil and that class exploitation is due to rich people. Rich people consider themselves to be superior and they consider their exploitation to be benevolence.

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>tfw I'm "rich" according to american saving standards

i'm just saving up for a house...

>>36236701
I can buy that. I definitely think we're on the same page with a rich guy owning a sweat shop: that guy is evil and exploitative, no questions about that.

I guess I just have a different outlook on people living in first world countries who believe they are exploited. Yes, there are powerful and rich people profiting off of their work. But lets say there's a company that has 10,000 employees, and they all get paid 20,000 a year. Hardly a living wage. And lets say the CEO makes 10,000,000 a year, which is 500x what a normal employee makes. Even if we took 100% of the CEO's salary and gave it to the employees, each employee only gets 1000 dollars more a year. Not to mention the fact that you might be losing a very talented businessman (regardless of whether or not he's evil, etc).

I think that's wrong that he makes 500x what his employees make. However, lets not act like his huge salary is drastically decreasing the quality of life for his employees either. And that's really the only point I wanted to make: Yes, people are profiting off of your work. But even the highest paid executives are taking such a tiny part of the profits that it barely effects their employees.

For what its worth, I wouldnt call it superiority over minimum wage people, I just couldnt let it slide that there was a guy who said "minimum wage jobs are the hardest on the planet" and nobody called him out on it. Thats just categorically false. I've been there too, and I'll take minimum wage work 10 times out of 10 compared to high stress situations.