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i'm 25 years old and it hurts that i have to actually ask

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i'm 25 years old and it hurts that i have to actually ask this question but how do i have a conversation i feel like i never learned how
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>>36162485
Most normies just want to talk about themselves, not converse.

Just ask them questions, pretend you're interested in their responses and ask follow up questions.
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I'm 18 and not too sure either OP, I think you are supposed to talk about something relateable and also let her do most if the talking.
>t. KHHV buying dakimakura bext year
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keep mental notes on how normies interact.
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>>36162485
We can have a conversation now, anon.
the key is to listen to what they're saying. Don't think too much about what you'll say next because you'll tune out the person who's talkign to you and it'll be obvious, and NEVER wait for the "right time" to say something that pops into your head, it almost always never comes, and once they finish it'll just be this awkward silence because you've both not been listening and have nothing to say.
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>>36162485
what the anon before said, just ask people questions about themselves and they will just carry the conversation
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Exact same position but I can offer these
Talk about yourself, your hobbies and interests as little as possible
Avoid directing conversations back to yourself and opinions at all costs
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>>36162547
This doesn't work indefinitely. Or at least, I haven't been able to make this work for very long. After a couple of interactions with the same person they realize I'm nothing but an empty shell of a human being.
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>>36162485

I'm 27 and I was in your boat, that "let it come naturally" shit, yeah, that's real.

Walk to someone, mention something mutual between you two, it may be the handegg game, it may be that about your sadness over the loss of the grand mac, whatever I don't care, but run with that until it stops, and if it stops, it stops.
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>>36162576
didn't say it would but it lasts longer than not doing it
going beyond 1-3 conversations is the question
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>>36162507
>>36162545

so just keep asking them questions?
won't people find that annoying.

it isn't too bad talking online like this because i can take my time and think, but in person my mind is just blank and i have no idea what to say.
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>>36162522
not op, but i hear what people are saying, it's just that it's too mundane to give any good reply to since small-talk isn't objective.
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>>36162616
lol ask about their interests or hobbies or what they did on the weekend etc. Don't ask shit like "wots ur favorite color" etc
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>>36162616
>so just keep asking them questions?
>won't people find that annoying.

No. As I said, for the most part average people really love the opportunity to talk about themselves. When/if they do tire of it they'll ask you a question about yourself, your opinion on something, etc.
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>>36162614
this
how do you keep the conversation going past 3-4 interactions

there has to be a limit to how many times you can say "hey" or "how was your day"

i have been talking to a girl online for a while now and even though we have a lot of the same interests i can't keep talking about the same shit every single time can i?
i can already feel her starting to get bored of our conversations. is the key to just be a LuL so randum xD fag
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>>36162485

use the "ford" method
>F - family
>O - occupation
>R - recreation
>D - dreams

>http://lifehacker.com/5937348/use-the-ford-technique-to-make-small-talk-easier
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>>36162772
Theres only so much you can say online you should meet up with her
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>>36162485
The unfortunate truth is that a conversation is actually a selfish act. It requires a level of interest in a particular thing you want. Whether it's information, whether it's to brag or talk about yourself, whether you find a person particularly interesting, whether they seem like they are a type of person you see yourself becoming or the type of person you want to become and probe them for information on how they got there, or whether you are just infatuated and want to fuck them.

Conversation is ultimately selfish. And it really does take two to tango. As much as sex requires both of you to cooperate with each other's rhythms and connections, a conversation requires a level of cooperation otherwise one person would end up leading the conversation, eventually hitting a roadblock.

I don't blame you for not knowing how to talk. I didn't either. Being shunned and the odd one out made it increasingly hard to nurture any social ability. I ended up working in retail and doing sales and developing my ability to socialise in the working environment.

You just have to speak and be well read. Be knowledgeable and you will be more confident in what you say. So many people lie through their teeth that it's ridiculous.
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>>36162794
i might try this i guess it makes sense
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>>36162794
>interact with the soulless normans using the Our Ford method
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>>36162507
And most robots want to hate on normies based on their bitter view on the. Twisted even more by this place. OP wants to know about conversation with a normal person not what you call a shallow stacy.

>>36162616
For starters, there different types of conversation, a lot in fact.
It can range from normal chit chat about meaningless shit, to talking about how are things going to deep conversations and everything in between.

And yes people like to talk about themselves, especially woman.

How will the conversation go will depend on who you're talking to and who are they to you. But in order to have a conversation first a topic must be picked, it can be :
>a recent event
>a movie
>how is uni
>your plans for summer holidays
If your sex organs dangle you don't gossip

People who only want to talk and not listen are not worthy wasting time unless you want to get in their pants. Actual conversation is back and forth, you make your own points, you ask questions.

Try going to some normal chat rooms, and definitely avoid trying to learn how to converse on 4chan.

Also if you have any views or opinions that can be considered radical or unpopular, keep them to yourself and those few you know you can speak freely to.
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How do you make it to 25 and not learn how to interact with people ? That's what school was for. Now being a friendless adult you want to just make up for 25 years of isolation and the place you go to to get help is fucking r9k ? A place full of people who don't know how to interact with outside world ?
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>>36162794
Don't do this. 75% of people will answer they don't really have any dreams because it's such a weird question. 20% will think you're weird as fuck of asking that. 5% will actually answer.

Given how conversations usually go this is about 4 sentences worth of response from people unless you have something in common so I hope you have something other than this to try
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>>36162485
I dunno, get drunk or smoke a bowl, that opens me up sometimes

But no, truth is if you didn't get out and soc much as a kid, you just never developed those conversation skills an shit
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>>36162576
Not true. I've gotten laid by telling girls basically nothing about me and just redirecting back to them any time they ask questions.
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