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last threads were pretty fun, so let's start a new one!
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first for intj male and infp female is comfy af and there's nothing you losers who take this too seriously can do about it.
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>tfw no qt racist ISTJ gf
Why live?
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ISTJ white male here
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Sensor master race here. Suck me homos.
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>>36121779
If anyone would like to join an INFP discord reply to this post with contact info
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disillusioned ISTP reporting in
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so are there any hidden redeeming qualities to infp or
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Shy and anxious estp reporting in.
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Reminder that ENTP is the worst type. They're more autistic than INTPs.
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INTJ reporting in

>tfw too autismo to ascend to godtier ENTJ
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>>36121779
Intj. Please be nice to intjs it hurts our feelings
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>>36121779
I'm an INTP, but for some reason don't mind talking to people.


... Oh fuck, I'm a normie.
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Infp FML
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>>36122413
I'm an intp and don't mind talking to new people, as soon as I find out that they are sensors or stupid I want to leave the conversation asap, no matter how akward I look while leaving.
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>>36122437
Hey, how accurate are all the memes ragarding your type, I know a few INFPs irl but I don't really talk with them about that kinda stuff. Is life pretty much JUST tier or is it not as terrible as some people on here describe it?

Also, ENTP here.
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INTP here, any ENTPs feel like telling me how they make their autism charming in social situations? Thanks.
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>>36121911
One of my friends does.
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>>36122476
I tend to not really give a shit if I feel or look awkward, but the conversation usually turns silent after a while (if they're a sensor) - unless you bring up a good question/topic.
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>>36122413
>>36122528
nice tripcode faggot
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ISTP-T white male.
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>>36121779
>ESTP

Reporting in, sir.
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>>36121958
Same, why are we so rare on this board.
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>>36121779
ISTJ here, and the two words above my diagram very accurately describe me. I scrutinize everything, and I will get jobs done if I'm told how and given the materials to do so.
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>>36122258
I love that chart.
ENFJ seems very fun, someone I'd want to be on a team with. If they agree with me they could push what I want easily
ENTP - i love Newt Gingrich, even though I always thought there was this smugness and Weasley feeling about him. He seems like somone else who I'd want to be on the same team as (though as an equal, not a boss)
ISFP- they're probably funny to be around and laugh with
ISFJ- guffawwwwwww
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>>36122655
damn ya poor bastard
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ISFP-T
White CisGendered Male
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>>36122071
Bald Corpse#1067
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>>36122528
INTP here, I don't usually mind talking to someone new as long as they think of topics to talk about that are actually relevant to me. If I find out they have shit-tier interests, I'll try to end the conversation to leave. Otherwise, if they have enough in common, I'll be able to come up with topics as well.
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Token ISFJ male reporting in.
>don't need to be a superhero to become invisible
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>>36122507
It takes a lot of trial and error
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>>36122655
ISTP-T black guy here
we feel together, brother
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>>36121779
How likely is it change your type? For most of my adolescence I was an INTJ, but nowadays I end up an INTP every time I take the test. Why?
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>>36123038
>only topics relevant to yourself are worthwhile
I feel that, although because I don't normally want to be very close to people anyway, I'll often entertain them on subjects I don't care about to make small talk and form some sort of synthetic connection. As much as I'd like to believe that I can be completely alone, talking to people about random shit that I have no interest in is still better than being isolated sometimes.
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>>36123367
>adolescence
>INTJ
you've grown up
In all truth the majority of people who get INTJ alter their answers because they want to seem like some sort of mastermind genius of the century or some shit
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>>36122660
ESTP here too
asking questions
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>>36123444
I retook it when I saw the mbti thread here a week ago and retook it, and I still got intj, but I don't care about the other types or their hatred of us. They're probably degenerate brainlets, which is worse when you think about how many could be white and hate black people.
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I'm INTJ. I don't really feel strongly about it. I do suspect that I might be a jerk who can't empathise though.
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ISFPs are ,without a doubt, the best type desu.
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>>36121911
Gay ISTJ here.
Close enough.
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>>36121779
If you're an E, an F, a P or an S then you CANNOT be a robot.
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>Have an intuitive mind, can see different possibilities unfold, can branch between new ideas near effortlessly
>Can barely use it for facts, just feelings, not even other people's feelings, just my own
Is being an INFP like having the worst super power in the world?
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>>36125368
I think robots can be F or P.

>F = beta
>P = random and unorganized
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>>36125506
That post was just shitposting to bump the thread.
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>>36125537
Tbh INFP is one of the most robot types

Males only, of course.
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>>36125564
The REAL robots are those with pic related as their big 5 personality type.

also just so happens to be 1 of 2 big 5 personality types that correlate with INFPs.
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>>36122064
The issue is that intellectuals are comprised of T and I types.
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>>36125631
I roll RLUAI
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>>36125672
Any chart that says INFPs are smart is bullshit. Behold the brain that thought tumblr was a good idea.
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>INTJ

>social situation
>being as friendly as possible
>anon why are you so intense and scary?
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>>36125888
Pretty sure NTs but ENTPs have that issue
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>>36125767
Tumblr SJWs are ISFPs. They just like to think they are INFPs for whatever reason.
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>>36125631
>>36125760
what website is this?

uog9g9g9ig978fg789
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>>36125943
similarminds.com
Robot, is this original?
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>>36125938
You're doing mental gymnastics. Only an intuitive would develop philosophy around their retardation.
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>>36125986
To hell with this filter.

I'm not creative sorry
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>>36125992
ISFPs are also way more common. Ne is not a SJW function.
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>>36125938
I'm an INFP and I use Tumblr sometimes but mostly for porn and cool art. Some cute stuff like this too.
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>>36126024
And why is Se?
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>>36125888
>people constantly asking what's wrong or if I'm alright
I know that feel, bro
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>>36126024
>Ne is not a SJW function.

Now you're just making stuff up. Ne IS a SJW function. It sees how everybody connects together and it's idealistic. I have seen plenty of SJW INTPs. Se is not idealistic. It's realistic.
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>>36126105
>SJW INTPs
lmao
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>>36125888
>>36126080
Learn how normies behave in social situations.
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Is being an INFP really that bad?
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>>36126990
Not if you can get your shit together
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>T types
How does it feel having no imagination?
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>>36127049
Feels like you are wrong
What is it like not being able to make rational decisions?
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Sorry for making such an original thread, and I hate to be a fucking /BegPoster/, but could someone PLEASE respond to my thread and address my queries. >>36126954 Thanks.
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>>36127105
Do this test
http://www.celebritytypes.com/test/intp-or-istp.php
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>>36127151

Why?

It sounds post-normie though.
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>>36127193
Read this
http://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/theory
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>>36126795
I've been analyzing normie behavior for the past 23 years. I still can't crack the code. perplexing creatures to say the least. Their patterns of behavior seem to exist within a fine line of chaos and order which is incredibly unpredictable.
I've been a casual observer of humanity all my life.
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>>36127297
If you ever figure it out let me know.
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>>36127297
Ok...that's completely rational behavior but I'll have you know that the human being is naturally chaotic.

This is why drivel like morality and all of that is important
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>>36127228
Hey thanks, this is actually kind of validating. Even what I'm doing wrong seems to resonate.
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>>36127049
>Retard
How does it feel to be retarded?
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>>36125767

Intelligence =/= critical thinking

The evidence shows that INFPs are intelligent, whatever theories you have for why theyre not are useless.
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>>36127954
Uh that is the evidence and it shows INFPs are potatoes. Uncited biased made up charts are not evidence.
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>>36128240

Thats not evidence for the claim that INFPs are dumb/not intelligent.

>biased made up

Can you prove this?
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>>36121779

>"You feel superior to other people."
>"In a discussion, truth should be more important than people's sensitivities."
>"You rarely worry about how your actions affect other people."
>"Winning a debate matters more to you than making sure no one gets upset."
>"Being right is more important than being cooperative when it comes to teamwork."

It seems like you have to just be a self-confident asshole to get ENTJ.
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>>36128579
>You feel superior to other people
Be honest, did you answer this in the affirmative or negative, and what is your type?
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>>36123974
INTJs are sociopaths except the part where they take what they want.
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INTP-T is the most "kill yourself" of all types
try to prove otherwise

t. intp-t
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>>36128579
>agree with 4/5 of those statements
>am INFP
Am I doing it wrong?
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>>36128579
Truth.

>>36128634
Maybe you're INTJ ?

Infps are all about 'MUH HARMONY RRRREEEEE'
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>>36127029
What does an INFP need to do to "get his shit together"?
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>>36128618
There's worse types. My life is < 3/10 by any conceivable metric but I still can't help but feel like everythings pretty great.
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>>36128399
Yeah I looked it up and it just comes from some guy's blog who hates sensors.

The INFP chart comes from actual research done by dario nardi. It exposes all your bullshit.
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>>36128609
Negative, ISFP.

I just tried answering all the questions as heartlessly as possible and it gave me ENTJ. Doesn't matter what I think though, it's the most successful type.
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>>36128856
ENTJs are isfps at heart. Don't let anyone deny that.

It's why we're super chill with ISFPs.
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So can someone give me the basic gestalt on why ENTPs are considered sociopaths/evil/crazy or whatever?
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>>36128677
>MUH HARMONY RRRREEEEE
Not necessarily. INFPs don't want harmony because they don't want anyone to feel bad so much as that they don't want anyone to be mean to them. They want everyone to like them and be nice to them but really could give less of a fuck about people who don't meet their standards.
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Are ISTPs the ultimate lurkers?
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INTP is suffering.
I honestly cant tell who has it worse.
INFP or INTP

Fe is fucking retarded.
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INFP sperg reporting in
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Just stopping by to say that INTJ is the best personality type.
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>>36130079

it's lonely at the top because intj is the autistic herd of the sheep that needs to be culled by the motherfucking wolves bitch
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>>36130229
Prove it bitch.
>Ori vaginal
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>>36125767
>thought Tumblr was a good idea
Users aside, starting a website that goes on to be sold for 1 billion isn't a good idea?
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>>36121779
who /schizoid/ masterrace here?
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I've taken MBTI tests many times and I always used to get either INTP or INTJ. While pursuing an education, I became less of a robot and more socially competent and goal-oriented. The last two times I took the test, I got ISTJ.

So basically does anyone else know this downgrading feel? Feels plebeian, man.
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>>36123367
that's the comfiest pic i've ever seen...ahhh
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>>36122501
Probably just the screwed up, underdeveloped INFPs on here, honestly.
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>>36131157
It's just what modern '''''''''education''''''' does to you
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>>36121779
who ISTP bro here bros?
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Tell me all you can about ESTP people
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INFJ skinnyboy reporting in.

S-sure is lonely up here...
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>>36131273
anything with E is a normalfaggot
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High-functioning Chad
>ESTP
Low-functioning Chad
>ESFP
Normie scum
>ESTJ
>ESFJ
>ISFJ
>ISTJ
>ISFP
>ENFJ
>ENFP
Cyborgs
>ENTJ
>ENTP
>INFJ
>ISTP
Robots
>INTJ
>INFP
>INTP

Debate me, faggots.
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>>36131386
>INTP
sounds pretty accurate to me
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>>36131420
At the lowest on the list. You're welcome.

>t. INFJ

Though, keep in mind, there will be some variation - it's not an absolute. Just depends how much you manage to fuck up your life.
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>>36131386
>tfw INTP
>tfw love proving people wrong
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>>36131386
i'm estp and a fucking loser
what the fuck am i doing wrong?
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>>36131469
Definitely something, mate. Good luck with that. Try to put your inner Chad to good use.

Although, you could've just taken a shitty internet and answered dishonestly.
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>>36131386
>ISTP
>cyborg

don't think so, robot btw (KHHV, no female attention whole life outside of family)
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>>36131724
See >>36131435
>there will be some variation - it's not an absolute. Just depends how much you manage to fuck up your life.
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>>36125888
I got the same problem as ISTP
People tell me i scare them. Idk how to feel about that.
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>>36131296
INFJ reporting in, you're not alone
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Infp I havent left my bedroom for 8 months neet 21 yo virgin
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>>36122719
INTP here, regarding jobs i pretty much do the same, because i just dont want to bother with figuring the job out for myself and then not focus on some tiny little thing my boss wants and i regard as uselelss
Which i would immediately get shit for
Although im growing more and more tired of it
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>>36123400
Different INTP here
Im lucky to have found two or three friends with whom i can just talk about interesting shit or share silence instead. I cant stand talking to normalfags about irrelevant shit, more so the older they are
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tfw am The Protector but dont have anyone to protect
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>>36128800

Link it then

>your bullshit

The only one who is spreading bullshit is you. Especially when you're referencing a study with sample sizes lower than 10.
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>>36132176
Nobody gives a shit. Fuck off you samefagging bitch.
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>INTP
>Don't want to spend 40 years of my life sitting in a fucking chair
>No idea what else there is that's both fun and makes money

...anyone else?
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>>36132514
Engineer with focus on testing physical shit?
Shit like networking?
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>>36125767
here is the intp one
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>>36132638
I'm no good at STEM stuff, better at stuff like international security and inter-governmental relations but again I don't want to spend half my life making jews or governments money
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>>36128609
Negative, INTP. I used to, in my subconscious, but I make a effort to not do so now.
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>>36121779
Something I've noticed is that all the fucking faggots are either INTP, or INFP. Can any MBTI expert explain why these two types are such flaming gaylords?
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>>36132938
You seem to be taking memes too seriously. Maybe rake a break for a while. Get some apple juice and calm down.
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>>36132976
t. gay infp
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>>36132938
I bet the gay to normal ratio is the same for all types, it's just they are they are the only ones who openly admit it
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>>36132995
INTP, but thanks anyway.
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>>36132938
Unbound by the values and views of retards - lewd things are fun
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>>36133009
Wow, that's pretty d-degenerate. You should respect tradition, not your base senses.
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>>36133120
>Wow, that's pretty d-degenerate. You should respect tradition, not your base senses.
Spooky.
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>>36133120
Are you an S type?
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>>36133120
>respecting tradition

And what does this gain you, mon amie?
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>>36133209
Yes I am anon. This anon >>36133009
is incorrect. Civilization is about overcoming our animal instincts. Not giving into LEWD carnal desires and the pleasure of the moment.
>>36133251
It helps me feel less useless and part of a whole.
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>>36133009
I've been struggling to contain my urges... Every time I masturbate the feelings come back. Should I give in or what? I'm too weak to stop fapping
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>>36133281
>Civilization is about overcoming our animal instincts

You couldn't be more spooked if you tried. What do I care for the expectations of my civilisation? I will do whatever I desire within the confines of the law or within the confines of what I can get away with. I agree that tradition is important to the health of a society, but I am so inconsequential within said society that my actions alone would have no effect upon it, and so I can act solely to fulfil my own desires.
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>>36133822
>You couldn't be more spooked if you tried.
Ah, sensors.
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>>36131273
Lemme do all of the Es, normie vermin that they are
>ESTP
Sports Chad
>ESFP
Whore Stacy
>ESTJ
By the Books Chad
>ESFJ
Alimony and Taking All Your Shit Stacy
>ENTP
Scumbag Lawyer Chad
>ENFP
Anime Protagonist and/or SJW
>ENTJ
Control Freak Chad
>ENFJ
Fantasy Novel Protagonist and/or Fourth Reich advocate
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Why are all NJs entitled though?

Is it the dom/auxiliary Ni?
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>>36122094
ISFP here, I want to cuddle you.
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>>36133894
>ENTJ
>control freak Chad

Can confirm. Psycho Chad could have worked too. But ESxPs can be psychotic too.

ENFJ can be any Chad he wants though. They're that good
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>>36125631
This isn't fair
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>36122501
>INFP
It's like noone cares what you say, at least not as much as you do, but it's still usually helpful to them in some way.
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>>36133920
>gets cucked by ISFJ
You were saying, Stacy?
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>>36128698
Becoming someone worth listening to
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>Intj
>want a gf to cuddle with at night but fuck having to do all that flirting and emotional shit
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>>36134020
>tfw no intj gf that neglects you and overthinks social situations
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How do sensors even survive with low/bad intuition?
Is that the reason they do retarded shit so often?
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>>36131260

Sure am, how's life?
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>>36121911
I'm an ISTJ male. I can be your friend.

Also a reminder that Big Five is the only "personality" test with scientific basis. MBTI is just for memeing and has about as much legitimacy as Japanese obsession with blood types.
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>>36133963
Yes, though the other INFP correlation (RCUAI) is a lot more flattering. If you manage to become RCUAI and develop the inferior Te to become an organized, productive person I'd figure you'd be as ubermensch as an INFP can be.

RCUAI is the chill INFP the legends speak about, RLUAI is the INFP stereotype.
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>>36134048
Yes

>tfw normie sensor parents
>both of them forget everything often
>from wallets to the car keys, to appointments and even birthdays
>basically slobs on weekends
>subjective, judgmental and cynical yet still try hard to fit in due to Fe
>critical of anyone who has a differing thought, even if it contradicts what they have said before bashing the one in question
>shit with finances
>materialistic

That's only off the top of my head. I could go on but I'd have to write a book or a manifesto about sensors fucking up.
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>>36134143
Are they both SPs?
lel
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>>36133894
You can do this for every type. Still, ESTP is the Chad type.
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>>36121844

INFJ male and ISFJ male is the apex of comfy.

You'll never understand the comfy of double introverted Fe users. Feels good man.
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>>36134034
>no intj gf to hate the world with
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>>36125920
yep,

>ENTP

>intense worrying situation
>snooooooooooooooor
>anon! Why are so relaxed?
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>>36134160
Dad's an ESTP so he at least can grasp some things better.

Mom's an ISFJ. She doesn't understand you nor gives a fuck but remains 'motherly'
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>>36131386
100% accurate in general
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>>36125631

Literally me.

Emotionally reactive, introverted, open, agreeable, spontaneous.

It's fucking shit.

Low conscientiousness people are not well adapted for modern society and introverted emotional men are not respected.
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>>36134209
I tried to order it as how fucked your life will be, on average. I figured INTP would be at the bottom, I'm an INFJ myself. Studied it a bit for the sake of master-debating.
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>>36134204
does your mom also think that everything you do is to spite her and that no one actually has a will of their own?
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>>36134235
Then INFP should be below INTP
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Any other INTJs worried about never finding someone they will really connect with? Like that one person you will never be able to vent your thoughts and dark secrets too. I get kinda tired of bottling everything up
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>>36134184
Same. Or ENTJ at that one
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>>36134107
>imblying
Read these
http://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/theory
http://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/basics
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>>36134237
Not that anon but i have an ISFJ mother too
She does tend to think like that when we do things that she doesn't "approve of", but generally isn't like that
She can however become autistic with strangers or distant relatives about things that don't matter

>>36134268
Not really, i like to keep those things a secret
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>>36134237
Thankfully not lol. But I wonder sometimes if she does.

She doesn't believe in free will however due to her religion.

>>36134268
Not INTJ but I have that problem too
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>>36134268
Do INFJs and INTJs connect well? I feel like I'm outside of reality and stuck in my own head most of the time, I find it really difficult to connect with people, and to stick around people.
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>>36134310
>She can however become autistic with strangers or distant relatives about things that don't matter

God she does that shit too. ISFJs are cutesy in an annoying way
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>tfw sensors are 85% of the population

I wanna leave this normie shithole planet desu
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>>36134355
It depends
https://lamentationsjeremiah.wordpress.com/2014/07/01/intjs-top-3-debate-nemeses/
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Whenever I take the test I either get ISFP or INFP. So I guess I'm floating around the midpoint for that one. What does it really mean though?
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>>36122116
jokes on you ISTP with an outlook of a 6 figure salary after my first raise, here
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>>36133920
>ISFP here, I want to cuddle you.
Too bad you're a male.
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>>36134738
>What does it really mean though?
That you have a roughly similiar preference for sensing and intuiting.
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>>36131386
These terms all mean different things to people and you are using them like it's a set in stone definition that everyone knows.

We are not defined by traits given to us from birth.
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>>36134738
INFPs have Ne and Si
ISFPs have Se and Ni
Look them up and see to which of these functions you relate more
http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/12/how-each-cognitive-function-manifests-based-on-its-position-in-your-stacking/
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Which suffers more for the crime od having been born: INTP or INFP
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>>36134951
>Which suffers more for the crime od having been born: INTP or INFP
The former.
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Do Fe users not have their own moral systems?
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>>36135031
Not really. They draw morals from the world as oppose to Fi users who draw morals from within themselves.
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>>36135091
>>36135031
I will say, this isn't just morals but someone's sense of morals

A INFJ may logically decide that X is wrong and Y is right, but if society considers Y to be wrong and X to be right, then the INFJ will very likely feel irrationally guilty doing Y
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>>36134833
Thanks for the resource. After reading up on it it seems that I can relate to one or the other more depending on my mood that day. I don't know if it's a confidence issue or what but I guess I tend to identify more with INFP on a day to day basis.
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Are any of the types more predisposed to certain types of mental illnesses like autism BD, BPD, NPD, etc.?
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>>36135328
I'm not sure about being predisposed, but types with dominant Ni or Se tend to have narcissistic traits, types with dominant Ti have schizoid like traits and so on
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>>36135397
Ni is the Schizoid type
Ti is schizotypical
Se is hyperactivity
Si is OCD
Ne is autism
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>>36135454
this is completely made up
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Are INTJs and INFJs more extroverted than INTPs and INFPs on average?
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>>36135578
INTJ and INFJ are quiet and usually only say things which matter while INTPs like to be "teacher" types who like to "educate" others (usually by explaining tons of shit that isn't really relevant to the conversation)
Not sure what INFPs are like
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>>36121779
I AM SCREAMING INSIDE MY MIND

KILL ME
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>>36135684
As an INTP, I can confirm this as 100% truth.

I love lecturing people on things...
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>>36135397
I can see how Te and Ni together would lead to narcissism, but why would dominant Se cause narcissism?
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>>36135578
INTP's either say NOTHING or won't shut up for ANYTHING.

There is no inbetween at all.
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OMG guyse I got harambe xD
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>>36134127

This is what I always get. It's only rare on r9k just so you know.
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>>36122064
>I don't understand what they're saying, therefore they aren't making sense
Nah mate
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>>36121779
hi Ni Ne dom here
have no idea what my type is
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>>36135717
The problem is that most people have serious trouble following your fast explanations
I wonder if sensors just ignore you when you do that, lel
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>>36135703
Honestly I would ignore that particular test. I ALWAYS score INTP too but every other test I've ever taken for mbti gets me INTJ. I think those score you weird
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>>36135823
Tbh you seem like an INTP/ISTP
You sure you don't have Ti and Fe?
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>>36135703
Take more than one test btw, don't take one and just post your results dude (just in case you didn't)
>>36135875
No clue, but I'll brb and retake *shrugs*.
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>>36135903
Have you read these?
http://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/basics
http://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/theory
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>>36125986
It keeps asking me what's important to me, but nothing is really important to me. I basically have no personality. I think that's why after studying these things for so long I still can't type myself.
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>>36135966
No, not really. Probably not. I'll take a read when I get the chance
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>>36121779
help me please i need help
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>>36129325
This. My idea of "harmony" is not being noticed by people, and not noticing others.

If you start to think, or even care in the slightest, about others, then it's all downhill. You'll start feeling poorly about nearly every aspect of life until you shut yourself off from everything else and sink back into la la land.

Sometimes it's really hard to ignore others, especially when they're feeling bad as well. I'd rather feel bad, since that's on me if I'm depressed. But others? It's strange. I don't want others to feel like shit, but at the same time I'm too superficial in most social settings for others to want me to do anything substantial to help.

Most people think I'm never serious, won't grow up, "child at heart" - whatever BS. All I want to do is sit in bed and stare at the wall until I die.

>>36135684
INFP, in social settings I jump around from topic to topic pretty quickly and whatever random shit that comes to my head either gets blurted out immediately, or I hesitate and don't say anything.

Then I get self conscious for talking, or I get self conscious for saying nothing. Then I feel sick in my stomach, regret going out, and leave.

If I'm at work, I'm stuck. And then I'm quiet the rest of the day unless someone talks to me, then I want to talk a lot.

Hate groups. Love talking to one or maybe two people who are laid back.
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>>36132844
Are you me?
I was having the same thought less than 24 hours ago
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>>36134127
INFP-T vs INFP-A basically.
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>>36136010
I think death is the best option for us INTPs desu
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>>36125631
Is is possible to change or are we fucked forever?
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>>36134227
It all boils down to a lack of self control. People without self control are not adapted well to any society.
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>>36136420
I want to die
but I also want to live forever
what do
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>>36136420
Stop being such a pussy, lad.
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>>36136478
Having the courage to not be afraid of death wouldn't make me a pussy, friendo
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>>36136426
Develop your Te.
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>>36136534
>the courage to not be afraid of death
Don't kid yourself, anon. There's nothing brave about accepting death, giving up and escaping the troubles of our mortal coil.
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Maybe most people are sensors because they just don't have the brain capabilities needed for high intuition
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>>36135976
Man, I feel you, really hard.
When I'm surrounded by people, I'm more likely to imitate ENTP.
When I test myself, results are varying between ESTP, ENTP, and even INTP.
But when I'm here, on r9k, I just loose everything I hold with outer world and think, that after 6 millions years of humankind development the best thing I can follow, is to fucking kill myself.
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>>36136590
Nah, mate, the wacky Japs had it right. It takes more courage to kill yourself than it does to have someone else kill you.
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>>36136728
The vacky Japs are non-depressed normalfag sensors.
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>>36135748

>Turtle
>Infp

Not complaining just wondering why
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>>36136764
>japs
>normalfags
Only a minority.
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>>36136816
>normalfags
>a minority in any society
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/normal
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>>36136773
Old souls? I get called that a lot by this group of hippies who live in a trailer by me.

Turtles live for a long time, go slowly, don't really seem to act on anything.

Pretty similar for infp I guess. Like, I don't do much with my life, never really take initiative or act on things, I wonder why I'd bother doing something all the time.

My idol is the dad turtle from finding nemo. He has his shit figured out.
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Am I seriously the only ESFJ here?

Why are most esfj Normie's...I feel bad for them

What are your serious thoughts on esfjs and any interesting encounter you had with any?
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>>36136871
Normalfags are part of western society.
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>tfw no ENTJ gf

Original threadly reminder that ENTJ gfs are the best gfs
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>>36136962
Normalfags are normal people. That's it. They conform to the standards and expectations of society.
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Lets compare brains guys.

>INTJ brain is the only brain with it all blank in the inner regions where thinking is supposed to happen
>looks similar to an INFP brain
>INTJ has no logic skills
>INTP and INTJ are strategy brainlets
>INTP has a bug collector brain

Wow sensors were the smartest all along. Really fries your bananas.
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>>36137006

This study has extremely small sample sizes to begin with (lower than 15 for most types) making it basically useless, and secondly there is no correlation between use of different brain regions and intelligence
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>>36136988
And society expands past borders
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>>36137059
>m-muh superiority
>b-better start doing mental gymnastics so I can still be supreme
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>>36137006
That pic just shows what they were thinking of at the time of the scan
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>>36137006
>Wow sensors were the smartest all along. Really fries your bananas.
Are you surprised? Everyone knows that sensors are smarter lmao. Intuitives are useless and will go extinct soon.
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23/f/ISFJ

>tfw no one to protect or nurture ;_;
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>>36136950
I hate most of them but the mature ones are nice I guess.

>>36136983
XNTJs are the best for relationships because we actually want everyone else to be on our level
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>>36137143
>brainlet intuitive thinks he knows things
The mentally disabled shouldn't be allowed to have opinions.
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>>36137147
>sensors are smarter because they're more useful
No, sensors are cogs and worker bees.
Intuitives are technically smarter than sensors. Sorry, but it's true.
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They are about to go extinct lmao
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>>36137244
Do you not know how's the brain scans work or are you just trolling?
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I hate tgis bullshit. Who gets very borderline resaults like pic related.
when i am assertive i score INTP, when i am turbelunt I score INFP. its been like this since i discovred this personality test.
I wish i was ISTJ, atleast i will get shit done. because i admitt INTPs arent smart, they hurt themselves,they do exactly the opposite of what they want. which is to live a economically safe life with a loving partner.
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>>36137250
t. an intuitive that used an illogical part of his brain to come up with this opinion
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how could sensors ever better their society if they keep doing what everyone around them does? you need intuitives who will actually push the boundaries

if sensors weren't forced to interact with new tools or the government didn't tell them how to behave, they would still live in a tribal society and measure their power based on who can keep his dick in a hornet nest the longest

sensors are nothing more than animals
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>>36137270
Let the big boy sensors do the thinking. You aren't qualified.
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>>36137290
>INTP
>illogical
Pick one to describe me. Pro-tip, I'm INTP
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>>36137343
Okay, so you're just baiting. Good to know
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>he's an ENTP
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Who here /INFTP/?
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>>36137159
>ISFJ
Do you want to have family?
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>>36137383
>he's not an ENTP
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>>36136571
>>36136426
A lot of the really bad points have to do with sadness, low self-esteem, no confidence, being easily hurt or overwhelmed, stressed, self-hating, submissive, crestfallen etc. I don't see how you could get rid of that by developing your planning/scheduling function.

Without fixing these issues a RLUAI INFP with a developed Te might just be a really insecure, critical and abusive person.
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>>36137344
There are no bugs here to collect INTP. This discussion is only for the big boys who can use strategic thinking.

>>36137366
Shhh don't think so hard. Go read some philosophy or something.

>>36137339
Intuitives are like the shitty players in games that need to be carried.
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>>36137389
Nobody because cross types don't exist

reminder:
you can't change your type
you can't be a cross type
the 4 letter code is meaningless
lookup cognitive functions
jeez
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>>36137451
It's the most autistic type. Don't let the ''E'' fool you.
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>>36137344
sorry fellow INTP here, but by logic it is useless to defend your INTP type because you got triggerd at some guy saying an opinion so you counter him with an equally shit opinion and you call it Logic.
I dont know if you are a first english speaker but you must be autistic to not see how gay you both are.
Protip: Dont respond Sensing baseless opinions. i know it your joy to debate and i tell you, you arent in your place.
I swear i love you. you dont deserve to be wasting your time on a gay S anon's opinion.or far worse an autistic N reddit tier one.
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>>36137397
absolutely yes x100
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>tfw get INTJ no matter what
>don't want to be a fedora tipper

pls make it stop
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>>36137121
>his brain is so limited that he can't even come up with new original posts
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>>36137530
ISTP baitsman BTFO
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>>36137389
here one >>36137289
i Know what you mean. you score sometimes F and other times N.
>>36137472
you sure are a textbook worshiper.
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>being a perceiver
Lel
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>>36137549
There are legitimate and good reasons for why you can't change your type though, you'd instantly recognise them if you bothered learning about cognitive functions
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>>36137490
>tmw you know a prophet who did this
>but 99 were born retarde
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>>36137580
>not being a perceiver dom
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>>36137515
It's ok anon. Wearing a fedora won't be so bad.

>>36137530
Wow who taught this intuitive to use a computer. A miracle of science.
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>>36137489
not him, but as a fellow INTP you should know that he is probably much less invested in the argument than you assume him to be
others may have to dedicate their whole mental capacity to arguing, but to him destroying (well, "destroying") sensor trolls is as easy as breathing

it's not like we can run out of threads and posts really
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>>36121779
>ENFP boogeyman here
ama
Spoogooti
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>>36137515
Same. The ISTP guy really made me even more insecure, I didn't know that was possible
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>>36121779
INTJ here
what now?
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>>36137583
i learned. it states clearly you cant be both, and only use one at a time.
and they are binary wether you are F or N.
but isnt ironic you have percentage spectrum ?
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>>36132287
I know that exact feel.
please don't mute me
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>>36137677
You are intelligent and not autistic.
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>>36137451
>>36137383
>he can't decide whether he's an ESTP or ENTP

JUST
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>>36137682
>it states clearly you cant be both, and only use one at a time.
This is bullshit and there is no scientific evidence to support any of this. On the contrary, there is evidence to support that everyone uses all of them.
Do not take the bullshit MBTI faggots peddle too seriously.
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>>36137682
isn't the percentage spectrum just some mbti bullshit anyway?
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>>36137583
You can't change your type, but you CAN change what type you test as.
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>>36137650
ok, sure. you know it all. you cant even fool a girl to have sex and you think you can fool me. you are more of an infp, promoting what makes INTPs like the smartest by nature. yet they are clueless in thier lives, if it wasnt to thier parents and tv shows they wouldnt get good grades at elementary and feel smart.
you are sad fruit of sociale engineering.
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>>36137708
>>36137719
same guy here. nice ! i thought you didnt know it, hug me :DD
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>>36137650
My biggest problem as an INTP is forcing myself to NOT get into debates and try to correct everyone's beliefs/opinions/falsehoods. Of course, I've got some mental illnesses too, so
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>>36137650
>>36137489
>brainlets still trying to rationalize that they are still smart
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>>36137738
i tell you something, this Mbti shit is like a feather in the face of northern winds.
>take test
>diffrent resaults
>some guy says: you cant change your type ?
>me : i just took a test and i am skeptical about you,the test,and the guy who promoted this mbti thing.btw tell me how to know my true type
>another guy: just assume it yourself XD
>me : but i cant be objective, dont you know the first obstacle which is the ego. then memory.....(which are stated in the mbti test)
Fuck this shit. give me the richest source about the MBTI theory, i need to know how you knew so i shut up forever about it.
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i've gotten the ISFJ result every time i've taken the test over the last 7 years or so, but i just took it again for the first time in a while and got a strong INFJ result
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>>36138039
haha, the pussy that eats you.
so you can have a blowjob with a pussy
and kissing with eating pussy.
truely a 4in1 product. the epitom of sexuale industry. call now 888-6969-1488
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>>36137790
...and your personality is so shitty you have to "fool girls" to have sex with you. in fact, your whole life is based on fooling the world around you because you wouldn't be able to get what you want otherwise. lucky for you the majority of people will for your tomfoolery
but it won't fly with me big boy ;)

>>36137900
sure I get a bit peeved if someone around me is wrong, but unless it concerns me personally I don't care
they are the ones going to hell/getting fucked down the road/embarassing themselves, not me
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>>36127297
You're a dumb INTJ then
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>>36137490
>absolutely yes x100
So what's holding you back? I mean you're a female, it should be easier for you.
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>>36131386
Why isn't INFJ under robot category? We're pretty fucking autistic.
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>>36138236
too depressed to get out of bed and do anything lol when i go on dates with random internet guys i'm too boring because i'm too shy and have nothing to talk about idk senpai
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>>36138248
>any type with Fe in their top two functions being "autistic"
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>>36138287
being shy isnt deal-breaker for a girl.
>random internet guys
like tinder ones?
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>>36138198
nice retarded assumption. you are staying from INTP further more. and i activated a MAK2 situation on a Butthurt scale, only seen in NormieBook and average youtube comment sections,easly crushed by MAK3 Insult, which only seen in real life situation at middle class nieghborhood.
I invite you to take a hemroid care session at my private clinic, to cure your uncurable butthurt.
now i am having fun
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>>36127297
Speaking as an INTJ you're just socially retarded. I have no problem blending in with normies. Its like a fun little game to me
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>>36138248
INFJs are failed normalfags.
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>>36138322
tinder, okcupid, 4chan, craigslist...
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>>36137664

This post is a falseflag
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>>36138319
Yeah, INFJs are ADD, OCD, BD but definitely not autistic. Their lack of ability to function socially is the only thing similar.
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>>36138405
What are those guys like? Spergy ones?
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>>36138433
I dunno man. I thought INFJs were supposed to be good at understanding humans but as introverts they're still on the periphery, or at the least don't feel personally connected to others.

It's like they can logically understand how humans operate socially and can even join social groups, but they're never truly a part of them.
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>>36138360
I am having fun too, as long as you aren't taking this too seriously

but you'll have to explain this Butthurt scale to me because unlike you I don't need guidelines to argue
you should also up your English skill because it's barely understandable and gives you an excuse to claim victory in an argument by claiming I misunderstood what you were trying to say

also, my butt only hurts from the excessive amounts of cocks I service daily
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>>36138529
no, i swear not taking anything siriously on this thread. i hope it doesnt affect your life too. i worry if you are a first english speaker it will be hard to spend time her.
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>>36138005
I just personally got lucky and tested INTP after being more honest/introspective. And when I look at INTP things and descriptions I relate to them extremely well, whereas I don't relate with the other types (except INTJ sometimes, but I also used to test as INTJ)
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>>36121779
INFJ. I regret not picking up an instrument a decade ago, because my love for music just doubles with each passing year. Learning to play guitar now, and sometimes I think I can sing.
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>>36138529
the butthurt scale, is a concept i brought on the spot. a tool to sound smart just for the lulz, i wouldnt go further because i know there will be a first english speaker that will take it seriously and make it into psychology and ten years from now you will be seeing retards on reddot using it as "'scientific evidence". it must be burried now.
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>>36138621
ok,i see now. I can relate with em all but never get that ""its me, its creepy"" feeling we are intended to feel.
to sipmlify things: it satisfied you, it didnt satisfy me.
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>>36121779
INFP

Life isn't so bad, why are all the others complaining?
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>>36138760
What else is this board for?
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>>36121779

>INFP master race reporting in

(originally reporting in fuck you robot)
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>>36138812
master race to suicide?
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>>36138248
>i didn't get to be a robot waah waah
Literally nothing gets me saltier than this.
Why do normies like pretending they're autistic? Is it just funny that some people have fucked up lives?
What the fuck do you even want?
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>>36138760
>>36138785
haha. or as we sound irl Hehehe or HphHphHphe,depending wether your mouth is open or closed.
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>>36138384
He's probably not an INTJ
INTJs usually have no problems understanding and predicting how other people will behave
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>>36138847
Faggots trying to fit in.
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>>36138847
is being obssesd with pencils and screwdrivers, and not talking as a child autistic enough to you.
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>>36138847
>placing types into retarded, meaningless categories like "robot" and "chad" in the first place
This is why you kids need to stop taking this snowflake quiz so seriously.
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>>36138451
sometimes spergy, sometimes cool guys who just aren't into me, sometimes meatheads lol there's been a variety
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>>36138970
This is unrelated to MBTI types.
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>>36138993
not funny. btw i got you -__-
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>>36138826

True i've thought about suicide every day since the age of around 12, but at least im not a bad person.
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>>36139133
I'm sorry anon, but being spooked doesn't make your suicidal tendencies any better.
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>>36138484
yes but that's still not autism.
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>>36139200
What is autism, anon?
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>>36139133
ha, me since 8
infp-t. fuck the word fuck
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INFJs are seen as autistic due to the Ni-Fe functionality that makes them base decisions and process information as a false assumption notice.

They're literally the most feminine type due to this.
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>>36139333
INFP's are more feminine than INFJ's.
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>>36121779
INTP is literally the worst personality type.

>chronic insomnia
>social and general anxiety
>perfectionist and overly critical of oneself
>never take action because scared of failure

Why would anyone want to be me?
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>>36139333
>that makes them base decisions and process information as a false assumption notice.
What does this mean?
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We should also have an honest nickname for the type groups.

SJ: The Cucks
NF: The Snowflakes
SP: The Whores
NT: The Assholes
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>>36139402
NT are only assholes to themselves at the end.
the rest is bs
SJ arent cucks.
NF arent snowflakes
SP arent whores.
you arent being honest, fool.
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>>36139146

what do you mean by this anon?

oregano
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>>36139402
are you an NT? everyone wants to be an asshole on some level
we should call ourselves The Autists if you want to be objective

I'm sure there is a less 4channy name for that tho
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>>36139305

Dont worry anon, I think we can be the happiest if we surround ourselves with like-minded people.
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>>36139364
In some ways, sure

>>36139401
>guy starts flirting with you
>drink in hand and fuck me eyes
>because you've based all of your ideals with support of Fe-Ti and avoidance of Se, which makes you be connected with the sensory world, you're going to make a quick erroneous judgement
>minutes later blurt out: That guy was going to rape me. When he probably just wanted your phone number
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>>36139481

>everyone wants to be an asshole on some level

You mean everyone on 4chan who is insecure about having empathy and emotions and desperately wants to come over as a psychopath so they look more intimidating than they really are.
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>>36139402
SJ: normies
NF: tumblr
SP: winners
NT: /r/atheism
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>>36139506
are you genuine or trying to fit the infp narrative?
okay, answer this simple question,
do you say this irl ?
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>>36139506
If you want to die that just means you're not dreaming hard enough.
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>>36139545
But I do have diminished emotions and empathy. Wish I didn't, though. Strong emotions add great flavour and colour to life and it feels kind of like I'm just observing the world as an outsider, with no real stake in it. Well, at least I don't have to cry myself to sleep about tfw no gf and other bullshit.
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>>36139562
Your NT analysis is wrong because most INTPs are smart (131 tested iq here).

And I can say that NTs are generally the least Atheistic people due to our beliefs founded on reason and logic, I am a Christian and find that most are like me if not agnostic.

God bless.
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>>36139641
I'd say most are agnostic atheists. No belief in God, yet no claim to actually know with any certainty.
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>>36139402
>tfw estp
>should be whore
>25 khv
oh the irony
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>>36139641
>Christianity is founded on reason and logic
lmao
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>>36139581

I only have one friend i talk to irl and I've just dropped out and moved home so i currently talk to no one irl.

What are you trying to find out with this question anon?
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>>36139668
I knew someone would reply that.

But it actually is.

Atheists just happen to be too retarded to see or do any research at all, and God forbid, open the bible and read more than 2 pages without dying of smug anime laughter.
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>>36139545
I guess I mean it in the "assertive" sense rather than the "manipulative" sense
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>>36139481
Yeah I think the Autists seem to fit better

I used the nickname assholes because well, all NTs are to a level.
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>>36139698
No, it's not. I generally agree with what could be considered Christian values, but the actual religious aspect does not have any basis in logic.
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>>36139677
just answer, if you werent intresting enough i wouldnt ask you.

do you say those emotional things irl ?

btw,i also have only one friend i trust irl.
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>>36139732
i repeat, Asshole to themselves.
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>>36139641
>thinks he is smart
>is religious
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>>36139739
Obviously you haven't read it. Perhaps if you opened up the Matthew at the beginning of the New Testament you can see how clearly and soundly the words are preached.

And with a great knowledge in history there are numerous examples of the Bible's depictions being true. Noah's flood is recorded on ancient Sumerian/Babylonian tablets. MANY people are known to have seen Jesus and his great works.

Bible prophecies are being fulfilled left and right, most of them being fulfilled in OUR lifetime.

All one needs to do is gather any knowledge at all, but after having argued with atheists for years and I can clearly state that the vast majority of them are just too stupid to grasp the concept of a God.
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>>36139823
>high IQ
>still manage to fuck it up and remain a deluded fool
How does this even happen?
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>>36139769
How come?

I think ENTPs are not that prickish to themselves
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>>36139746

No i have an avoidant personality so I wouldn't talk about emotional things with people irl.

After three years though I finally did open up to my friend and we talk about really deep/emotional things now.

What's your relationship with your friend like anon?
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>>36139827
>there was a giant flood
>ancient people recorded this and it became mythologized over time
>vague ancient words that have been butchered by translations and translations can be correlated to events by the human mind
Wow I'm convinced.
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>>36139842
Because IQ is meaningless.
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>>36139641
>And I can say that NTs are generally the least Atheistic people
That's... not true at all and I don't know what makes you think that.
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>>36139911
IQ is potential though. Roughly said, the higher your IQ is, the greater your pattern recognition skills and thus the formation of new schemas are. How you manage to start out with a high IQ and not manage to develop functional, intelligent mindsets, wisdom, is beyond me.
Maybe if you lived in a stimulation poor environment and had any attempts at independent thought hammered away. Which might make sense, thinking of a hardline Christian upbringing.
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>>36139850
you are INFP.
i do the same like you. we can talk about ANYTHING. very deep subjects to mundane things to serious projects. he is my only trusted friend, and it happens to be my cousin. we werent like this before 5 years. other people i am avoident of them. and i almost thought in my life revealing emotion is weakness. which still does affect me.honestly if you werent anon i would go this far with you. and you too i guess.
one question, can you relate to pic related ? :)
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>>36139987
Pattern recognition is not critical thinking or logic. Pattern recognition is the same as conspiracy thinking.
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>>36123046
This.
We can disassociate to the point of becoming characters. It's an enourmous freedom, but can sometimes leave you feling like an empty fraud. The way to use this blessing/curse correctly is to imagine the perfect version of yourself, then do nothing other than work at becoming that person. Run after that version of yourself, people will notice that you're on a journey, and be intrigued by it. We are free enough mentally to be completely with out delusion, so long as we are willing to put in the work to become the people we think we are (Which very few people are willing to do.). People will want to learn from you, and will describe you as "Charasmatic" if they see you doing this.
God speed you autists. You're autism is, and always be you're greatest strength.
Become the Hero.
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INTP here i assumed most robots would be INTP but you guys are a pretty diverse crowd
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>>36139904
"Vague"
I find it funny how you would recollect that when I know you've probably never read any of the Bible past the first pages of Genesis.

"ancient people recorded this and it became mythologized over time"

I find it funny how people can think evolution exists when there is virtually no evidence of any civilization besides bones dating to over 8000 years ago.

Atheists really are a bunch of tards, the you can do is post smug faces and write buzzwords while you jack off in a pool of tears to your own pit of destruction, which the Bible clearly states is a result of your many poor choices.

Regardless, everyone can find redemption from this and repent, and I tell you, Jesus is the truth and the light.

Acts 3:19 - Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

2 Chronicles 7:14 - If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


Matthew 7:24-27 - Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Jeremiah 29:11 - For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope.
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>>36140062
>Pattern recognition is not critical thinking or logic
Critical thinking and logic rely on patterns. Not images, but of thoughts, concepts and ideas. Certainly not quite the same as IQ tests, but they do seem to have something in common.
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>>36140089
The majority of robots are either INTP or INFP with good percentage of INTJ and ISTP. Others are cyborgs like ESTP, ENTJ and ENTP.
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>>36139904
>>36140099

And having been in this wretched position of self-hatred, anger, unforgiveness, and envy, I can attest that Jesus is the only way, our sins are washed away from His grace, and through His grace we achieve peace within our lives.

Rebuke me and taunt me if you wish, I only tell you this message as a warning, and a sign, God has a plan for you, and if you would, even as ridiculous as it sounds... Pray, pray for faith and he'll deliver you from this terrible position, in Jesus name, amen.
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>>36140105
Concepts and ideas are not rooted in anything. They need to be checked against reality to be verified.
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>>36140022

That sounds pretty comfy, my friend is a turbo-chad so I don't really know why he is friends with a disgusting cretin like myself.

I can relate to your pic, i spend almost all of my time inside my own head, thinking about things. So that is a pretty comfy background to do that against.

Can i ask what your relationship with your parents was/is like?

Also where are you from anon, Spain?
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>>36140202
>Concepts and ideas are not rooted in anything
They are rooted in reality and the human mind. A human being forms ideas and schemas out of experiences and ideas. An intelligent, or high IQ individual will do this a lot more effectively, giving them vastly superior potential when compared to low IQ individuals, who may even have difficulty learning primary school material.
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>>36140202
How do you verify your "reality" how do you know you even exist
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>>36139911
It's not. There's a big difference between low and high IQ people, talk to both and you'll notice. Every ''intelligent'' person you know has high IQ, it's all connected. The test itself might seem like just ''pattern recognition'' to brainlets like you. A lot of sensors have high IQ.
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>>36140246
>How do you verify your "reality"
By experiencing it through the senses and activating your almonds to ponder upon it.
>how do you know you even exist
Cogito ergo sum. One's own existence is the one thing they can verify.
t. different anon
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>>36139641
Don't worry about those other anons, I'm a Christian INTP as well.
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>>36139847
I say INTP, they are assholes to themselves because they hurt themselves, by being assholes,procrestinating,socially isolated.
they make others hate them, and it would be easy to corner them one day and dihumanize them (only normies do that). in resault they shut in.
you get me now, the kind of assholes that get what they deserve.
manners are important for them to have. and modesty most. they will be left with laziness.
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>>36140239
It's not rooted in anything. You're like a crazy person stuck in a dream that thinks it's reality. You won't know what reality is until you venture outside of your dream.

>>36140246
Go outside and smack yourself with a piece of wood. You will feel real again.

>>36140262
>using pattern recognition to think things
>thinking you know anything besides conspiracies
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>>36140338
If you ever need a home to discuss theology with fellow anons you can join us on 4+4chan we are always welcoming new members and it's bretty comfy.
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>>36140062
>implying conspiracy thinking is not intelligent
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>>36140062
Good sensor, only trust your first hand experiences! There's no way a politician who has "helped" you is actually against your existence!
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>>36140370
>It's not rooted in anything.
As I said. Concepts and ideas are formed out of reality, or more specifically the qualia of the individual. Without a qualia, there is no individual.
>You're like a crazy person stuck in a dream that thinks it's reality. You won't know what reality is until you venture outside of your dream.
This makes no sense. None of what you're saying makes any sense. You seem to be claiming that schemas are not rooted in anything, as if they simply pop into existence randomly.
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>>36140225
errrm, Algeria. damn we ended up near.
my relation with my parents is great. the best it can get with my dad. Kinda terbulant with my mom in my teen days, great when a kid, now its great too.
i wonder, they can create 1000 reasons to hate me yet they choose to love me.

i like your response about that comfy pic.
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>>36140411
a perfectly valid implication too
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>>36140394
Awesome! Will do! I love discussing theology, but haven't done it with fellow Christians in too long
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>mfw INFJ
>mfw I've gotten called an "old soul" multiple times in my life

what does it mean
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>>36140370
Are you really confusing intuition with guessing?
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>>36140477
i tell you, there is a girl i knew, blonde blue eyed here mom was from a very preserving christian family she married a muslim and turned muslim aswell. she even asked her mom(super religious) to become muslim, she died before she could.
her kids are damn succesfull white muslims.
just to put it there.
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>>36140556
Shill

spaghetti original
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>>36121779
Italian INFP reportin' in, bois.
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>>36140443
>qualia
>making me google fedora words
Bad INTJ. I didn't want to know what that meant.

I'm saying intuitives are out of touch with reality. Concepts that are not verified against reality are not valid. For example god is a concept not based on reality.

>>36140411
>thinking it is intelligent

>>36140441
[conspiracy thinking intensifies]

>>36140512
It is guessing.
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>>36140167
You outed yourself there. Religion is a tool you use to fulfill yourself because you are emotionally weak and broken. Religion is nice because of that absolute certainty you can feel without having to do the work if building it from within yourself. It's a powerful one and I don't think less of people for relying on it, but you can't pretend you're coming from a place of objectivity and then say something like this.
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>>36140469

I feel like being INFP would be so much easier in an arab country. The west is soul crushingly narcissistic at times.

What do you think?
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>>36140656
>living in an arab country
>being anything but unending misery for anyone
I get what you're saying but why an arab country?
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>>36140622
>having no idea what you're talking about
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>>36140635
I was a Christian before this, but only when I began living a Christian life was I fulfilled.

The only way is through God my friend, and that is not objective at all, God is the absolute truth, whether you can see it or not.
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>>36140746
Well if that's what makes you happy anon.
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>most high IQ people are agnostic/atheist
>most low iq people are religious
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>>36140656
NO not at all. algerian guy here.
why do you think is the reason of our misery.
here it is officially Taboo for a man to tell his emotions, and for a female too.
>>36140725
no, we are shit heads narcissit too.
thats why we suffer. kinda. Algeria is great compared to other places.
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>>36140725

Are you the Algerian anon?
And because i think people are a lot friendlier there (as long as you belong to the same religious sect as them of course).
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>>36140860
Religion is something that can make you feel good and give you a sense of belonging and purpose without any real effort on your part.

Developing contentment and purpose from within yourself is much more difficult.
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>>36140081
I would feel ingenuine if I suddenly started acting like a different person in front of my established groups of people. Which is dumb because I shouldn't care about their opinions in the first place. But people expect me to behave a certain way based on the time they spent around me and shattering those expectations wouldn't quite make them hostile towards me, but it would certainly invite all kinds of questions I can't be arsed answering ("wow, why are you suddenly paying attention to us?" "you never talk, what's wrong?" etc). The solution is of course to practice in bars and similar venues where the chance you'll meet the same person twice is slim, but it's not zero and I would still be either forced to continue acting the same way towards people I already know or let what I described above happen.

I'm aware I'm vastly overestimating another person's level of caring about me, this is just me justifying my laziness. Rambling is fun. I really dislike giving people "ammo" to shoot me with, I don't want people I know to be there when I inevitably fail. It's not like I'm hurt by criticism or embarassment (b-baka!), it just makes me want to distance myself further from society. Like I would do something silly and the next time someone would say haha remember when you did something silly and I would stop hanging out with that person and ultimately get angry at myself for creating a situation where I'm forced to stop hanging with that person because I did something silly.
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>>36140622
>Bad INTJ.
INTP*
>I'm saying intuitives are out of touch with reality. Concepts that are not verified against reality are not valid
And you are the only one who is pushing this idea of not verifying concepts against qualia.
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>>36140740
>can't argue with logic because he is a conspiracy thinker
>all he can do is throw a tantrum because people don't believe his conspiracies
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>>36140081
>>36140908
To make it more concrete, think about that greentext about that guy who was forced to a birthday party by his family and they got him that cake with a figure of him in front of a laptop and the one part that always bothered me the most was the "Haha look how he's cutting the cake!" because something like that happens in my family, fortunately not with such sinister undertones, but I'll say something funny and then I'm forced to listen to that crap everytime we do something which has even the barest connection to my funny remark over and over and over again and that just makes me not say anything in the first place. Fucking normies, be more original. To bring it back around, I need to move to another place where no one knows me, but I'm also afraid I'm going to run out of places to run away to.

I'm venturing so far off the mark I need two posts, but sometimes an INTP needs to write what's on his mind, innit.
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>>36140622
Intuition is connecting events/concepts which are at first seemingly unrelated in a logical way
It's literally higher thinking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuition#Modern_psychology
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>>36140920
Stop saying qualia to me you faggot.
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>>36140970
It's literally conspiracy thinking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory
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>>36140882
no he isnt.
here i am>>36140873
yes they are friendly for a short time, stay longer and they will show thier real faces.
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Reminder that intuitives are responsible for most of your comfort in life and yet you're saying that they are retarded because they actually thought up new innovations instead of relying on traditions
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>>36141045
Such is the way of the inferior sensor.
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>>36140622
The sad thing about you is that you aren't even aware of why you are hating on intuitives.

Basically you realized that you're inferior (even though you try to suppress this by saying that you're "just trolling").
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>>36140476
There's literally nothing wrong with saying
>I don't completely believe the currently accepted belief. There are other possibilities that are equally valid
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>>36141045
This is what a conspiracy thinker would say. Completely false assumptions based on nothing.

>>36141085
Sensors rule the world. We are your masters. The only thing intuitives can do is jerk off to their false sense of superiority on message boards as a coping mechanism. It's extremely pathetic.
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>people think other types are better than others

Everyone has their own special skills, I don't get why you all fight over this. We're all equal
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>>36141253
>Completely false assumptions based on nothing.
Just lok up famous INTps and what they have contributed to science, retard
And that's only INTPs and only really famous ones

>Sensors rule the world.
Literally false, only intuitives know how to successfully control lots of people. Hint: They aren't presidents or "famous" politicians because staying out of the spotlight is a smart thing
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>>36141345
Are you an INFP?
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>have non-normie interests
>bullied my whole life because I'm not a retarded normalfag
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>>36141428
Yeah. I know, I know "INFP crybaby blahblahblah" but I mean really, I think we all are a good benefit to anybody, as long as we try
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>>36141449
>if you're normalfag then you have to be retarded
nice logic.
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>>36141479
You basically have to be, just look at how normalfag sensors live their life and how their thought process work.
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>>36141253
>Sensors rule the world
Ummm sweetie...
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>>36141469
INFPs who haven't been completely crushed by society are pretty cute desu
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>>36141449
I bullied others for not having the same interests as me lol.

Where do you people live?
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>>36141556
>I bullied others for not having the same interests as me lol

And probably because
- you saw them as "not fitting in" aka being normalfags like you
- you felt they had superior intelligence to you so you had to pick surface things that they lacked compared to you

>Where do you people live?
I'm not a canadian
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>>36141520
>sensors
>their thought process work
having different thought process doesnt make them any dumber. there are tons of pathetic intuitives who overthink every single crap and end up doing absolutely nothing.
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>>36141374
See you miss nuance because you're a conspiracy thinking retard. You made a false assumption that only people who are theorists can contribute to the advancement of society.

In reality ISTPs kick your ass in innovation every day because it's about the practical application of theory. And not just jerking it to string theory which has no use for anything. Edison and Jobs are ISTPs and they are among the most famous innovators. The only INTP people know is Einstein.

Fact: ISTPs make better innovators than INTPs
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>>36141617
The difference is that Intuitives can and have to think like sensors sometimes while sensors are unable to think like Ns
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>>36141658
Intuitives cannot think like sensors, otherwise there would be no r9k.
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>>36141638
>You made a false assumption that only people who are theorists can contribute to the advancement of society.
I only said that we'd be missing lots of shit had it not been for intuitives. Learn how to read, retard
>The only INTP people know is Einstein.
You're assuming that intuitives are not important because they are not "well known" by the average retard? Nice logic
Also you're wrong
http://www.celebritytypes.com/intp.php
http://www.celebritytypes.com/intj.php

>>36141714
r9k is just another place for failed normies, most threads are about how Chads are evil and how you can become one too. basicaly sensors believing that having a gf is very important, sounds pretty S to me
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>>36141658
There are lots of sensor coders. I doubt there are many intuitive football players.
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>>36141815
>sensor coders
Yeah, codemonkeys who can only apply premade concepts to create the algorithms the INTx has designed before.
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>>36141802
>thinking wrongtypes is accurate
>more intuitive assumptions

This is what happens when you are out of touch with reality and lack logical abilities.
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>>36141914
>those quotes
It's literally Fe aux. Why are you worked up?
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>>36141613
>you saw them as "not fitting in" aka being normalfags like you

No my man. I was the outcast who didn't watch Disney shows or crappy sitcoms.

>you felt they had superior intelligence to you so you had to pick surface things that they lacked compared to you

We're all equivalent while in school. Don't really know why I would do such thing.
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>always liked making/drawing GUIs for programs
>now find out almost all people in that field are INTJs
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>>36134127
Describes my gf to a t.
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>>36141914
we've been over this before, their public persona is different from who they really are because it sells, also, there are plenty more underground artists who are far more autistic (I don't follow hip-hop though)
surely you don't think any dumb nigger can start rapping and make millions

but knowing you, you probably do
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>too retarded to be INTP
>too apathetic to be INFP

nani sore? imi wakannai

or maybe I just killed my personality development by basing my life around mindless consumption.
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>>36141540
I mean it is hard, especially being a male as whatever I am, but I think that life should also be hard otherwise there is no challenge
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people fighting if tier speciale label is better then the others speciale labels.
while no one will belive them. YOU ARE BEING UNDERAGE NORMIE TRASH !
stop fighting. you are dystopian and so 10s right now.
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>>36141951
He types based on stereotypes. ISFJ is a housewife type so....
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>>36141892
>more intuitive assumptions
Sensors would be the most skilled coders and would probably be better than intuitives. As usual the intuitives get cucked at the things they think they are the best at by sensors.

>>36141951
>>36142078
>he thinks two well known gangster rappers have house wife personality types
>intuitives are this retarded

Intuitives are so dumb. No wonder they don't accomplish anything. Even an ESFP is smarter than the average intuitive. It's transparently obvious they you are just trying to validate their shitty typings so you can still assume the rest of the site is valid (which it's not).
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>>36141914
>>36142020
Why you are lynching each other. oh i know you are shill designed to make INTP and ISTP s disgusted of themselves and eachother. stay away of each other, you clearly dont know how to get the best of people. Silence is gold here, who will take it first.
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>>36122258
>ENTJ
>They enjoy mastrubation more than sex

Yes, you got me.
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>>36139641
you are a christian because INTPs are contrarian edgy snowflakes.
Just because the majority today are agnostic/atheist, you say you are a christian.
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>>36140990
No. Qualia is a great term.
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>>36142348

>ExxJ

Am I wrong in assuming this automatically gives you normie points?
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>>36142247
>he thinks two well known gangster rappers have house wife personality types

It's actually very likely. Dumb feelfag sensors who grew up in a ghetto and had to fit in became "artists".
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What is the difference of "Sensing" and "Feeling"?
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>>36142419
Don't even try to think. It's embarrassing. You're just a pseudo intellectual conspiracy thinker. You don't know what reality is.
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>>36142485
They are not exclusive to each other
There's sensing (importance on what's reality right now) vs intuition (importance on deeper meaning and the future) and thinking (logic first, feelings later) vs feeling (feelings are more important than logic because muh happiness/harmony)
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>>36142485
You draw raw information from outside world vs having your own opinion about outside world before taking additional information.
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>>36142610
>Don't even try to think.
>You don't know what reality is.
Yeah i do, I use Te for that.
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>>36142485
feeling is a judging function which sensing is a perceiving function
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>>36122258
humanity is such a beutifull thing. i am sure Angels are laughing thier asses off on how we are and what is going to happen to us at the end.
Humans: sick comedy to tickle sadistic angels.
INFP here.
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>>36142684
Se is what's in touch with reality. Not Te. If you have Se last you live in lala land.
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Are sensors serious when they say that they don't understand what intuitives are talking about or when they are using "difficult" words?
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>>36121779
>be ESTP

How the fuck did I end up here?
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>>36142737
Most of intuitives are really bad at explaining their train of thought. Besides they usually use a shitload of difficult words just to appear smarter and pretentious.
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>>36142734
Ni is literally Se shit filtered by importance
Te is facts about the real world

I don't see how either of them is "lala land"
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>>36142485
sensing = use senses
feelings = use emotions
>>
This thread is cancer
You people sorting yourselves and trying to categorize behavior. It's astrology with a slightly more informed basis. These labels aren't as descriptive as this thread makes them out to bem
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>>36142807
we know. if you take us seriously you are advised to go do something else.
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>>36142787
Se is feedback from the real world. If you take in Se information it will change your opinion and view point naturally. INTJs take in the least Se information so you are the most out of touch with reality and will hold stubbornly hold view points that don't corroborate with reality.
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>>36142759
>Most of intuitives are really bad at explaining their train of thought.
Because explaining logic and visual images is more difficult than just words.
But logic is also much faster than verbal thoughts.

>Besides they usually use a shitload of difficult words just to appear smarter and pretentious.
Yeah no, those are retarded pseudo-intellectuals. Inb4 "but all Ns are that", no they are not and you'd be retarded for assuming that
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>>36142807
is just banter
it's only aggravating (hello >>36142759
) because you aren't part of it
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>>36142857
So what about half the population who don't even have Se?
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>>36142807
And i hope you arent the kind who beloeve everything frued says because he is frued. or something like this.
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>>36142807
But did you test as an ISTJ/ISFJ?
Or are you just parroting some "fact" that you have read on some website?
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>>36142894
They use Si instead and will review past experiences.
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What are some good career paths for an INFJ? I'm currently considering law school but worried about how much i'd actually enjoy it.
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>>36142954
So Se are morons who can't learn from the past? No wonder people don't seem to learn anything from history.
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>>36142857
Ni is a perceiving function too, you know
Perceiver doms generally are more aware of reality than thinking doms, just because Ni is not detail focused doesn't mean we don't experience real life
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>>36142964
Law school has lots of rote memorization, it's usually easier and designed for ISTJs
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>>36142992
i bet i have better smell memory than any ISTP donkey here.
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>>36142969
I guess that's one way of looking at it. Or you could say Se people aren't held down by the past and will innovate new ways of doing things.
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>>36143055
Is it based on pattern recognition only or can you "remember" smells at any time?
I can only do that to sounds and visuals, i don't remember smells or body sensations
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>>36143021
>rote memorization
I've lived my entire life on wikipedia
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>>36143082
>will innovate new ways of doing things.
Yeah no, that's Ni and mostly Ne. Se it literally acting without considering future implications.
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>>36143082
>Or you could say Se people aren't held down by the past and will innovate new ways of doing things.
Yeah, ignoring the past and already existing "new ways" of doing things, causing societies to continue in circles.
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-Ni 16.3
- Fi 9.6
- Ne 9.4
- Fe 7.05
what the FUCK am i lads
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>>36143146
But do you remember tons of exact random facts or are they actually connected to each other?
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>>36143151
Nope. It's Se too. That's what you intuitive cucks don't see. Se is experimental.
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>>36143115
iremembre well. body sensations and smells.
like there is smells i didnt smell since 15 years. if you bring me the same source i can be sure 100% what is the diffrence.
i have a smell i call now the "Lost Smell" i can get the same source (a flower) but never get the same pure smell.
i can remeber the smell of new born babies now.
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How to know whenever i'm ISTP or ESTP?
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>>36143184
Yeah, likely the latter. I tend to fit pieces of information together to form larger ideas/concepts in ways that I can better understand the world at large. I'm not even sure if that makes sense really.
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>>36143290
It's basically how intuitives tend to memorize things. Random facts are Se and Si

The problem is that you won't be able to learn easily when you're unable to fit something into your framework, which often happens with sensor teachers who are all about random irrelevant "facts"
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>>36143279
Introverted: Likes to be alone, doesn't speak as much and usually doesn't think out loud. Wants to be a Chad but is usually too beta.

Extroverted: Likes to be with people and feels bored when he has nobody to talk to, usually outgoing. ESTPs are basically generic Chads but many of them fail in life
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>>36142068
Your GF is probably awesome. I wish I were RCUAI but I'm RLUAI scum, I really struggle not letting my emotions get the best of me sometimes.
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>>36142020
>we are all equivalent while in school
Ahahahahahahahahahaha
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RCOEI is mustard race :^)
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>>36143480
I'm talking about functions, not extroversion/introversion. You can be shy and anxious extrovert or sociable and confident introvert.
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>>36143567
>A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of stone.
- Chucky D
You answered as edgy as possible didn't you, anon?
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>>36143838
No, why would I? It describes me pretty well too, is that bad
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>>36143567

>does not put the needs of others ahead of self

Trash tier personality type.
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>>36144244
Pleasing other people is for nerds
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>>36144244
I'm sorry that I'm not an RCOAI
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>>36142348
Seriously. Why is it so though?

Is it because our sexual standards are too low?
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>>36142406
They are cyborgs - can fit in here without problems, unlike most sensor normies
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>>36142629 >>36142641 >>36142687 >>36142803
ohh thx
aaarrrg original
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