There is literally nothing wrong with cruelty. Prove me wrong.

File: 1486446381728.gif (1015KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

1015KB, 400x400px

Prove yourself right faggot.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>36057668

4chan. Most posts are just assholes being assholes to each other.

>>36057668
its fun famalam

>>36057642
You're fucked in the head if you believe torturing/killing something that doesn't know right or wrong isn't wrong. Especially since they would be loyal to you no matter how you look or how bad your situation is.

>>36057716

Its not just to dogs, faggot. Torturing/killing any living thing makes life itself worth living. You are either a victim or a killer.

File: swj.jpg (107KB, 807x935px) Image search: [Google]

107KB, 807x935px

>>36057642
Proof is a materialistic concept, and asking for materialistic proof of something in a non-materialistic subject just shows that you've been dumb enough to swallow the dogmatic science meme.

>>36057744
t. edgy teenager who pretends to be a sociopath but shits himself if he sees a deer carcass

File: edge.jpg (29KB, 320x258px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 320x258px

>>36057744
>Torturing/killing any living thing makes life itself worth living. You are either a victim or a killer.
Are you sixteen?

>>36057817
>sociopath
kill yourself

File: 1435804938444.jpg (140KB, 680x680px) Image search: [Google]

140KB, 680x680px

>>36057746
>Proof is a materialistic concept

YOU FUCKING PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL

>>36057642
*teleports behind you*
*slices your arm off*
Practice what you preach....

>>36057838
Here's a definition.
>Sociopath: someone who behaves in a dangerous or violent way towards other people and does not feel guilty about such behavior.

>>36057903
*you hear laughing behind you*
Heheh..you fell for my genjetsu

>>36057642
I agree, girls being cruel to beta males is hilarious

File: swj2.png (129KB, 724x611px) Image search: [Google]

129KB, 724x611px

>>36057886

Don't worry, sci-cuck, one day you might be able to formulate some understading about all the things that don't fall into line with your scientific dogma.

>>36057817
>>36057834
>>36057838
>>36057903
>>36057913

I am the glass in your eye
I am the knife to your throat
I am the fever dream
I am the intrusive thoughts
I am the freezing night
I am the uncomfortable silence
I am the wound that does not heal
I am the cancer that will not stop
I am the pain that lingers
I am the fear that overtakes
I am the anxiety that builds
I am the harsh mistake
I am the mocking laughter
I am the isolated weep
I am the long road ahead
I am cruel

>>36057939
*shits my pants*
Heh, I'll just flush you out with a shitsjutsu

>>36057642
Hows middle school op?

The weak should fear the strong

Blox

File: 1485111152297.jpg (2KB, 92x92px) Image search: [Google]

2KB, 92x92px

>>36057994
Sage thee into the archive edgelord

>animals do not have the capacity of rational thought, and thus do not have absolute worth
>therefore they are exempt from ethical considerations because they can ever only be means to an end, never an end in itself
in other words, go beat your dogs ethics says its okay

We have no moral duties to animals including dogs and cats. They are just objects for use to dispose of as we wish.
The average American is a hypocrite who gorges on meat daily but is upset by idea of killing a dog or cat.
Give animals are just things animal cruelty is obviously a misnomer, it is a meme propagated by pet lobby and brainwashed pet owners.
There is nothing wrong with adopting a dog from the pound and killing it, in fact it is good for the world.

>>36058131
Ethics don't say anything brainlet

>>36058131
Go to sleep Kant

Actually, even Kant wouldn't allow us to kill dogs because it would corrupt our fellowship with our rational equals.

t.a faggot

File: 1482844424552.jpg (18KB, 533x527px) Image search: [Google]

18KB, 533x527px

>>36058174
>being this retarded orgeregenionaly

>>36057642
>>36058161
The world is getting more and more concious, more and more people are decided not be pieces of shit like you. Do you honestly think the average normal person thinks like you? No, pretty soon people like you won't have human rights anymore.

>>36058185
kek was just doing some Kant readings for my ethics final tomorrow and figured I'd come in here and make a meme
gg anon

don't beat dogs though guys they love unconditionally (very loose sense of the word here) but why would you abuse the only love we robots are every going to feel

edge is a normgroid construct fags

>>36058207
Not an argument, why do you take your 14 year old angst to 9gag

File: 1490794191454.jpg (205KB, 843x1034px) Image search: [Google]

205KB, 843x1034px

>>36058239
Good luck on that.

I had a Kant exam last week. Did well.

I think he would fine with killing them for rational purposes such as food or saving another subject but not mindless abuse.

It violates the NAP

>>36058185
Kant was a pet cuck who couldn't accept logical conclusion of his system.
>animals don't matter
>but don't be mean to them bro cause like duty to yourself bro
What a hack.
>>36058221
How am I a piece of shit? I bet you eat meat, you're just as bad as me you just can't bear to see the sausage being made. I treat animals equally, why should I elevate a dog above other animals? It is not more intelligent than the pigs that make your bacon. Dogs are worthless pieces of shit and there's nothing wrong with destroying them.

>>36058481
>Dogs are worthless pieces of shit
Whites evolved alongside and domesticated wolves because it was mutually beneficial. Asians did too but to a lesser extent. If you don't like dogs you're a filthy shitskin and your savagery is completely understandable. You're right in that emasculated little yippy shit lap dogs are useless, but even today you've got to be a fucking retard if you don't understand how important dogs are in things like S&R or explosive detection.

>>36058554
>If you don't like dogs you're a filthy shitskin
Wrong.
We've out grown the need for dogs, they no longer serve a purpose in most cases.
They're just wastes of space and resources and are used by disconnected people as surrogate relationships. It's not healthy. Ancient humans didn't dress dogs up in cardigans and take christmas cards photos or call their dogs family and let them sleep in their bed.
>S&R or explosive detection.
Extreme minority of dogs.

>>36057642
I guess it's not but your kind of an ass if you can't atleast treat people fair until they shit on you

It's sort of like a contract. Domestication made animals unable to fend for themselves in the wild. Therefore, we have a duty to treat them humanely.

>>36058623
>We've out grown the need for dogs
>even though they still do important things humans and other animals are completely incapable of

You're also assuming that most people know how to train dogs. They only tolerate being dressed up, stared at, spoken to in retarded voices etc because it's their owner. It's borderline abuse and most of them end up emotional wrecks especially when women are the ones that take care of them. I'm not trying to defend that sort of behavior. I hate lap dogs that are only there to subjectively look cute even more than you probably do, but that doesn't mean they deserve to be tortured because of it. Larger dog breeds are still inherently valuable today, and if you don't understand the bond people have with them you have unresolved emotional issues and are in no position to call people detached.

>>36058481
>you eat meat because I say so!
Kill yourself

>>36057642
Congratulations, you have reached the logical end of nihilism.

If there is no God, no morals, and no reason to live beyond pleasure, you can justify cruelty if it makes you feel good

>>36058852
But then why should people stop at being cruel to you?

File: Hmm.jpg (30KB, 456x402px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 456x402px

>>36058884
Can you clarify what you mean by this?

>>36058815
The vast majority of dogs are not rescue and bomb dogs.
>but that doesn't mean they deserve to be tortured because of it
They don't deserve anything, but there's nothing wrong with "torturing" them.
>if you don't understand the bond people have with them
People's bonds with their dogs are worthless, no better than imaginary friend.

File: 1488171016731.png (71KB, 378x357px) Image search: [Google]

71KB, 378x357px

>>36057668
A-anything with bailey blowing a guy?

File: wojak.jpg (15KB, 229x246px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 229x246px

>>36058852

that's the logical end of materialistic inquiry, not nihilism

it's clear that there are morals in a godless age, but you're unable to quantify them in a way that you find satisfactory--perhaps then your issue is not with nihilism--but with the demands you're putting on the evidence which would permit your acceptance of the morality that exists all around you

>>36058942
thats all she does anon

>>36058940
>but there's nothing wrong with "torturing" them
"Torture" inflicts pain. Pain is a negative experience and violates the victim's autonomy. This is the only moral absolute and there is no way to possibly deny that inflicting pain is an act of aggression, species is irrelevant. Please stop being so edgy.

File: 1449022458244.png (273KB, 450x450px) Image search: [Google]

273KB, 450x450px

>>36058977
>the morality that exists all around you

>>36059052
>. Pain is a negative experience and violates the victim's autonomy
I don't care.
>species is irrelevant
So stepping on an ant is bad as shooting someone?

>>36058977
according to a quick search on the internet nihilism is defined as the rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless

I mentioned moral principles in my primary post, of course morals exist in a godless society but its pretty much whatever is defined by the letter of the law and people only obey it to avoid the use of violence by the state

File: IMG_1467.jpg (50KB, 629x451px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 629x451px

>>36057744
It's not just a circus. Shaving your head makes life worth living. You are either Britney Spears or not Britney Spears.

>>36059096
Ants are not sentient to the extent humans and other animals are. Their nervous systems are not capable of interpreting pain, if they get ripped in half or otherwise seriously maimed they won't even seem to notice and continue trying to do what they were before the incident.

if you're cruel to a certain dog, i'll kill myself

>>36059096
A lack of caring does not make your actions towards the victim correct.

>>36059096
>I don't care
and you wonder why you have 0 friends jej

>>36059162
Dogs are not sentient to the extent humans are.
>>36059168
Some butthurt dude crying about it doesn't make it incorrect either. There's nothing inherently wrong with it.
>>36059187
What if I do have friends?

>>36059214
>What if I do have friends?
Be honest with yourself, you really don't. At best you have people that tolerate your existence.

File: wj.jpg (18KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

18KB, 300x300px

>>36059128

>I mentioned moral principles in my primary post, of course morals exist in a godless society but its pretty much whatever is defined by the letter of the law and people only obey it to avoid the use of violence by the state

when what's considered moral in society changes over time, the impetus is morality that's not only outside of the laws of the state--but directly opposed to to it--and even seeking to override it

File: truerobits.png (45KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 300x300px

>>36057886
Thinking is social construct and therefore not relevant.

>>36059214
Dogs are still sentient to a considerable extent. They're capable of understanding words, passing the mirror test and feeling physical pain in very similar if not identical ways to humans. This makes it wrong to torture them. If you want to "torture" something like an ant that can't feel pain and by all practicality isn't even aware of its existence go ahead, that isn't morally wrong.

>>36059246
I have at least one.
>>36059296
I think they fail the mirror test?
>feeling physical pain in very similar if not identical ways to humans
How do you know?
>This makes it wrong to torture them.
No it doesn't, even assuming all you said was true.
There's nothing wrong about it.

>>36059350
>How do you know?
The way their nervous systems are wired and how they react to stimuli friend.

>There's nothing wrong about it.
Don't make me repeat my entire paragraph.

File: KVhmgA4.jpg (40KB, 699x637px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 699x637px

>>36057642
garble garble garble

>>36059350
Why, then is hurting something that does not want to be hurt correct. Given the choice between doing something that may hurt another being and not hurting another being, the morally right choice will always be the latter. You should not go out of your way to hurt something on a utilitarian basis.

File: image.jpg (39KB, 400x366px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 400x366px

>>36059350
Your entire thread is "morality can't exist because I don't care, this somehow makes anything I could possibly do objectively okay lel"
get a better argument brainlet

>>36059438
Meant to put a question mark in there.

File: Shovel dog2edgy4u.gif (2MB, 242x201px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 242x201px

>>36057642
NO, PEPE! WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MY DOG!!

>>36057744
>You are either a victim or a killer.

>always right; the power to cause pain is the only power that matters, the power to kill and destroy, because if you can't kill then you are always subject to those who can, and nothing and no one will ever save you.

>>36057994
Kill yourself anon.
Show this reply to your closest family member and ask them if they agree with me.

>>36059454
been sometime since I've watched this.

>>36059419
>The way their nervous systems are wired and how they react to stimuli friend.
Maybe they enjoy being hit and express their pleasure through whines?
>>36059438
Why does it have to be correct or incorrect? People eat steak for pleasure, hitting dog for pleasure is no different. I'm just doing something with an object in the world, an object I own.
>>36059449
Not my thread.
Your entire argument is "it's bad because it's bad and don't hurt doggy!", why should I care about dog? At least empathy for another human has societal purpose and makes things work better when many humans are involved but why a dog? It's just a dumb dog. Who cares??
Kant said we have no moral duty to animals, but he erred when he said we should still treat them well because it will influence out treatment of other people. There doesn't have to be a connection there. I can be cruel to dog and nice to my fellow man.

>>36059454
what did I expect

File: image.jpg (83KB, 535x745px) Image search: [Google]

83KB, 535x745px

>>36059522
you're either just legitimately fucking retarded or bamboozling at this point

>>36059574
I'm not retarded and I'm not bamboozling.

>>36059296

Don't mean to be this guy, but ants do feel pain.

>>36059720
Insects in general don't have pain receptors. Their nervous systems are a completely different world than the ones we're used to.

>>36059760
So would any alien regardless of intelligence not feel pain and we could torture them?

No one can give you a real reason not to be cruel.


The reason they oppose it is because they themselves want to be cruel but can't get away with it so by being brazen enough to try you are implying that you are superior to them. This buttblasts the brainlet sub-consciously and they have to make up stupid rules about what's right and wrong that they couldn't actually universalize.

I can guarantee you OP every cuck disagreeing with you in this thread eats meat.

>>36060125
First year psyche student discovered

BTFO BTFO BTFO