Why are young people so politically extreme these days?

Everyone on the internet is either a communist, ancap or a nazi now

How are they extreme?

Hard left movements are a loud and visible minority. I imagine most young people are average social liberals.

it's by design from the jews saul alinskey rules for radicals (hillary clinton bible), divide and conquer method of control

>>36052640
I'm an anarchist, but even I believe in borders. I do believe that customs and passports are a little extreme, though.

>>36052876
>I believe in borders but i don't believe in enforcing borders

get help

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>>36052876
>being this ignorant and unaware of why they were even implemented

>>36052640
because we know we have no future. History was written by extremists. The time of peace we've had since ww2 is an anomaly.

>>36052640
I feel a large number of them are just larping, honestly. The first world's far from perfect, but we've come so far in regards to civil rights and whatnot that there really aren't any big social issues for this generation to be fighting for. But they still want to feel like they're doing something for the world like the real revolutionaries that came before them, so they make up problems to chimp out over

>>36052876
>anarchist
>believe in borders

wow, lad. Do you even know what anarchy means?

>>36052876
I don't really have anything to add to what the people before me pointed out about your statement, but I saw a post with a lot of (you)s and wanted to throw my (you) at it too

>>36052999
>>wow
>>not wew

>>36052903
I believe in borders, just not making it so difficult for people to travel. Travel =/= immigration.

>>36052876
>I believe in borders but don't believe in enforcing borders
What even?

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>>36052999
>he doesn't know about anarcho-nationalism

>>36053063
LiteraIIy the post above you.

>>36053060
god what is going on in your head man

>>36053166
Are you implying that if someone enters your territory that it has to be permanent and can't be monitored within said territory? What makes you think that?

>>36052640
Young people are always extremists because they have a better understanding of theory rather than execution. As people get older they get more practical. The gamer Nazis and reddit ancaps are going to fade away when they finally realize these ideas are not practical. Also the pineal gland is so polluted with calcium sands they can't rebel

>>36053060
and who would enforce the borders, moron? and borders without states? that makes no sense.

>>36052662
and ancaps side more with nazis

>>36052640
>no banks no borders
These autists are fucking delusional. Without a government who could force people to not create banks or have their own private borders? Every non AnCap anarchist needs to be sent into a mental ward.

I want to preserve my nation, people and culture. There is nothing extreme about that. From my point of view, mass importing people from poor countries even though it does nothing to help us is illogical and, yes, extreme.

>>36053202
without monitoring who is coming in in the first place? yeah probably pretty hard. then you want to monitor any non citizen inside said territory, imo sounds like you just created a country much less free than one with borders.

>>36053213
>nazis aren't commies who just like borders
Nice meme famalam.

>>36052640
>anarchism is new
Remember all that anarchist terrorism? Yeah they've stopped doing that and now it's mostly smelly hippies in drum circles.

Youngsters have always been extreme. I went to college in the 80s and it was insane.
The internet just brings that shit more into the limelight.

>>36052685
The fact that even normalfags support the commies because "you can't be too left wing brah, everythings better than le nazis" shows that the majority of people definetely ARE extremist.

I agree with the idea of no central banks, but borders need to exist. Not to be so strenuously enforced, just as a simple filter to catch criminals.
As long as we get rid of the welfare state, it's not like we'll have the same problems mass immigration causes today anyway.

>>36053264
>I want to preserve my nation, people and culture
Literally impossible without going North Korea tier and shutting off all trade and communication with the outside world. That means no internet everything is built in the country. Also you lose your professionals and academics because They thrive on exchange of information across borders. You don't develop New medicine or technology by shunning everything foreign. Even then your life as you know it will disappear anyways due to AI and other advances

Cause they have no jobs and no money but plenty of debt, the failure of the government to give its people these things will be its downfall.

>>36052640
I just found this interesting video, while doing my daily search on Elliot Rodger. It is REALLY GOOD, even if it is not exactly truthful about Elliot himself. But it GREATLY explains why SJWs are acting so crazy they are. It's all because of their victimhood mentality and victimhood complex.

https://youtu.be/stfDRNQo234

I'm quite happy now, knowing that I am not really the second Hitler on the rise, like many of my art student colleagues probably think, for me not supporting limitless immigration or me wanting to have full details of loose criminals given by media, including the color of the skin. I am not bad, it's these people who have distorted image of the world. They are not bad or crazy either, they are just in the wrong.

Anarcho-communists make no sense.

Anarcho-capitalism inevitably leads to capitalism as corps and people vy for stability and convenience, sure but anarcho-communism is just pants on head retarded. Communism as a system required a central power to distribute and enforce that common ownership. It's authoritarian by nature.

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>>36053264
>posting on /r9k/
>caring about le countrymen
Everybody hates you, anon, you can't be that spooked that you'd actually put a country above yourself that doesn't even value you. Liberals want you dead and most of you countrymen are most likely exactly those. Living for anyone other than yourself is pathetic.

>>36052989
This
The way a lot of these type of people talk just gives it away. They see themselves as this generation's Dr. King or Ghandi, but in reality they're just a bunch of whiners or delusional people.

>>36052640

I'm not.

I think politics only make you lose friends/Gain enemies really fast.

>>36053435
You can preserve a nations social mores, at the very least, without erecting trade or communication barriers.

>>36053260
>Every non AnCap anarchist needs to be sent into a mental ward.
This. AnCap is the only acceptable form of anarchy

Young people have ALWAYS been the extremists. Universities have been .a hotbed for political dissent forever. People are just passionate when they're young.

The only difference now is that it's all vocal and in your face because the internet is the ultimate democratiser in terms of ideas and voices-everyone can voice their poorly thought out opinions.

>>36053629
The thing is, it's the ONLY form of anarchism. Anarchism means no government, so fucking no regulation of the market, no matter how many AnCom autists start crying about it, you can't have anarchism and market interventionism. But try to explain that to a stoned le tolerant antifaggot.

>>36052640
remember the 14 words

>>36053629

Execept NAP always turns out to be non-functional and AnCaps have fantasies about...helicopters when they encounter people they disagree with.

>>36053030
I hope someone cuts your throat faggot

>>36053753
>I'm so happy chad gets to fuck women, that's so good for the white race, it doesn't matter if I don't get anyone, all that matters is my superiour race
White nationalist LARPers truly are the biggest cucks to ever exist.

>>36053805
Hoppe libertarianism, son. AnComs can have their stupid communes in AnCapistan if they keep to themselves in their own community. AnCaps are live and let live, AnComs literally can't accept dissenting opinions since that would fuck up their whole system.

>>36053825
i'm not claiming whites are superior i just don't want us to go extinct

>>36053359
What kind of fantasy world do you live in? Take a break from /pol/ for a while.

>>36053880
What do you care, they won't be while you are alive and once you are dead it doesn't even matter. It's a lost fight, try to enjoy the pain of those who close their eyes instead of fighting a fight that can't be won. Find joy in things like sluts who help refugees and get raped and killed, plenty of those cases where I live.

>>36052640
It might be because the government is a corrupt, materialist, EVIL entity that exists purely to enrich itself
I hate commies and anarchists, but i respect them much more than establishment-loving liberals

>>36053903
Ever been to Germany? It isn't that funny to talk to peers if you live here. Heard that quote multiple times.

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>>36053629
As someone who used to be AnCap, it isn't "good" as far as a worldview. But the underlying principle, the NAP, is perfectly fine on it's own, and despite the DUDE MCLEGION LOCAL WARLORDS HAHA (which are funny but they're used as arguments) the ideology is at least internally consistent.

Not that it would necessarily work, just that the actions it advocates don't explicitly counteract on it's supposed principles (AnCom).

>>36053501
Yes but if you live in a shithole full of low IQ scum then you wont even be able to be a NEET. And you might get murdered or something. It is much better for robots to live in the first world. There they may be shunned, but prosperous european nations will not mistreat them to a great degree.

>>36053955
Anarcho Transhumanism is truly the final redpill.
Right after Anarcho feminism

>>36052640
because YOU are young.

this has been going on for the whole history of humankind. current gen is not an exceptional in that sense

>>36053927
it does matter i want to leave a legacy. A world where the white race can grow and thrive because its my race. A future for white children.

Alex maybe the best example. I don't know what to do about it.

>>36052640
Everyone wants to be an special snowflake nowadays, so everyone goes just a little bit beyond each time.

>>36054000
>legacy
Nobody will remember you, you are part of 99,99% of the rest, you are not something special in a historical sense. Leaving a legacy is misguided narcissism, focus on yourself, not on something you have no use for.

>>36053991
I already was born in the first world, having the goal of upholding it will only be of use for future generations, not myself and I don't care for those.

>>36053209
>and who would enforce the borders, moron?
idk the police maybe

>>36052640
They grew up belueving their voice matters, when in actuality they still pay dues to the very institutions that keep them enslaved and selling them a costly lie, they complain about it, compartmentalize it, and still believe they are keeping their individuality while futily fighting a battle they lost long long ago.

>>36053209
Property borders, those are a thing in Anarcho capitalism, since everybody has the right to discriminate and not allow people one doesn't want on one's property. I don't know if the guy you replied to is an AnCap, though, so that'S not an answer to his form of "anarchism"

>>36053087
>anarcho-nationalism
>no state but somehow have pride in a state
>also no borders

So this is... autism.

>>36054098
This, antifa and co are nothing more than useful idiots for the elites.

Because I'm angry and I feel disenfranchised.

>tfw the /pol/ uprising is imminent

>>36053995
*anarcha feminism you fucking statist patriarch

>>36054104
>everybody has the right
and who would make sure those rights are respected?

>>36054104
How is property supposed to be enforced under anarcho-capitalism?

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>>36053286
>Has no idea the actual differences between Communism and National Socialism
They're night and day.
You're a fucking retard, anon.

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>>36054138
>mfw /pol/ would like the EU and socialism if they were carried out white nationalist
M8, the majority of /pol/ are not better than deluded antifa faggots, they'll suck politician cock like them as long as they get told whites are great

>>36054138
feels good doesn't it? watch for the berkely fight april 15th its going to be a blood bath

>>36053947
>hate commies and anarchists, but i respect them much more than establishment-loving liberals
Conservatives are the establishment. In America they have most of the power. Of course I'm sure your excuse for Trump is that his party is full of cucks and he can't make any deals

>>36054187
>>36054188
The NAP, if someone breaks it you are allowed to defend yourself. And since you live in a community, a burglar for example would be caught by the security of a gated community and shot.

>>36054188
Its your property to be taken as you see fit with a non-written agreement that if you come onto my territory its my laws, not the states. Its basically every man for himself, with unwritten moral codes. Like the fear of mutual self destruction that would somehow regulate property rights

>>36054212
>t. antifa nigger

>>36054257
Are you retarded? I said /pol/lacks are cucked because of their boner for socialism. I'm AnCap, m80.

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>n-n-no /pol/ is the problem they're just as baad

Fuck off, I'm tired of being le cool rational centrist. I want this antifa shit, this corporate media shit, this board infiltration and subversion shit to burn. It's over.

>>36054207
they're both systems that historically have promoted mass murder and the redistribution of wealth. they're not that different.

>>36054212
I am aware its an echo chamber. I am also aware that their theories are typically right, but theory and practice are two separate things.

>>36054243
Not him, but Trump is a nationalist, not a conservative. I love nationalists, conservatives are faggots. The republican party is in a bit of a shift here right now between the two, so you can't exactly say conservatives are the establishment (and let's hope they lose more and more power).

>>36052989
Many of us are fighting against civil rights because they're incredibly destructive.

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>>36054282
>n-no the blacked threads are fine! it's okay to have four of them and five sissy/trap threads up at once!
>h-have you ever tried a dick? here, take some hormone pills, you'll feel better! we can leave all that nasty /pol/ stuff behind!

>>36054351
There needs to be a ruling class so a bar is set so people will aim for an ideal. Problem is when you make everyone equal there is no bar. Human nature is naturally hedonistic.

Since the secularization of many western countries, most people have taken up politics as a substitute to religion in order to feel some kind of purpose and moral compass in their life.

Most people just want to be guided by some kind of neatly packaged moral principle

>>36054417
This is what happens when you throw any cultural foundation you had out the fucking window.

>>36054110
>a state is a nation
Not the other guy but that's wrong. A nation is the land and people, a state is the governing body of the nation.

>>36054188
>only things not allowed are things that violate the NAP
>if someone aggresses against you then you have a right to defend yourself

Granted, I have probably a different view of "property" than most AnCaps and am no longer an AnCap myself, mainly I don't think you can just buy up land and not do anything with it but claim you own it, so I'm mainly talking about like your house or business. And obviously free courts exist, where both parties agree to stand before the court and have them determine who's in the right ("people can just buy off the courts" is a common counterpoint to this, but since we're talking about both parties consenting to go obviously you wouldn't choose to go to a court you knew was rigged against you).

>>36054187
>and who would make sure those rights are respected?
...people? In theory it's actually very similar to Jeffersonian legalism, people have inalienable rights and one of them is the right of self determination. It isn't assumed that the state will uphold these rights, and it is the RESPONSIBILITY of the people to make sure their rights are upheld.

>>36054207
In theory they're very different. And I won't say they're similar in practice, but they do have a lot of similarities for ideologies on the (((opposite sides))) of the (((political spectrum))).

Plus the closest modern example of actual fascism is the PRC, and though they aren't "true" fascists it's actually pretty funny that they transitioned into it directly from the "opposite side".

>>36054212
Nice opinion based on stereotypes

>>36054501
>Nice opinion based on stereotypes
I've had enough debates on /pol/ to know what I'm talking about.

>>36054248
>if someone breaks it you are allowed to defend yourself
>>36054501
>people have inalienable rights and one of them is the right of self determination

Good luck trying to defend your rights when there isn't a state to write down laws.
>he broke in!
>I'm free to go wherever I want!

>>36052640
>society seen as disgraced or flawed in some way, likely cultural and material downturn
>people become skeptical of the political establishment and start relatively mild reform movements
>establishment attacks and denigrates it's opponents on all sides of the political spectrum
>moderate reform movements collapse under centrist pressure
>elements of these movements become radicalized, think they must take more extreme measures to fix the system
>these radical movements arise among all ideologies, they push each other in more and more extreme directions
>eventually non-establishment forces are the majority, center becomes powerless
>radical faction takes over, supresses other factions
every time

>>36054417
Exactly, but these same people have zero morals. Thats the irony of it all.

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>>36054243
look, I (begrudgingly) voted for Gary Johnson, not Trump, and I don't like a lot of what Trump does, but...
He clearly is a bit of a wild card who, unlike every other president before him, IS interested in fulfilling the promises he made to the people (no matter how retarded SOME of those things are). This can be a good trait of course when you have good ideas, a bad one when your ideas are hairbrained.
The establishment, the DEEP state, sees Trump as useful though, because of the mass hatred toward him by a certain segment of the population. They can't get him to play ball like every one of his predecessors in recent history, but he's still a working piece because of these prejudices. So they weave these loose, ridiculous narratives that he has russian ties and is being influenced by russia to lay the groundwork for more war (the thing the deep state special interests love the most). the people who hate Trump will support it, and thus the deep state sold another ridiculous, meaningless war based on a shoddy narrative (like they did during Obama's administration, though they didn't always label it war, and with Bush and the weapons of mass destruction, and countless wars before.)
Notice the major third parties (like the green party, the constitution party, the libertarian party) are all against war and intervention. Notice how the two establishment parties have always found ways to justify it one way or another, no matter what ideals they espoused, and they got large numbers of their voting base to go along with it, no matter what ideals the voting base claimed to hold. This is because the Deep State is able to exploit our fears, our tribal prejudices, to justify one of the most destructive, senseless acts in existence: war. The thing the Deep State Establishment cares about well above anything else.
Trump is a wild card, and this displeases the Deep State establishment, but they found a way to work with him to continue their slimey pursuits.

>>36054583
>Good luck trying to defend your rights when there isn't a state to write down laws
How do you think people defend themselves from a state which seeks to curb their rights? Since you think laws written by the state is the only thing that upholds rights.

Plenty of people rob houses even though it's illegal. But robberies go down in an area with higher rates of firearm ownership. Clearly laws are not the only thing that keeps people from violating the rights of others.

>See the death of /leftypol/ and how fucking pissed they are
>Suddenly feel renewed hope and confidence

I really needed that. Antifa commies can get fucked after they get off our board.

>>36054296
oh well ok then i guess these are the only two aspects of a political ideology. typical ancap cuck

>>36054741
the other stuff is just decorative. you either promote every individual's right to life liberty and property, or you don't (to whatever degree.) all the other stuff is just decorative.

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>>36052640

Those groups are legit funded to disrupt. Some anon dove into CTRs (hillary superpac) FEC filings and found they were buying a shit ton of Amtrak tickets every time trump had a rally. The women's march? Hillary victory rally funds were diverted into a protest. You can read about it yourself. Unless, of course, you think all of those people spontaneously showed up without any organization or financial backing.

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>>36054671
>ron paul based autism intensifies

>>36054671

Surprisingly accurate take

>>36052640

because they have no concept of real aggression

when people come at you with guns to take your possessions, life becomes very very real and very very valuable.

tell these same kids to live in detroit or the ghetto of LA for a few months and see if they have the same ideals. it's easy to say 'man i'd be so set' when you're playing GTA and you have the ability to respawn, but there is no respawn when a random bullet flies through your dome. even the hardest, most badass motherfucker can't stand up to a .45 pistol to the face.

>>36052640
part of me thinks that they're just bored and wanted something to fight for and latched on to the first thing they saw

>>36054738

Leftypol is back, classcuck

Economic situation sucks and hits young people the hardest. Massive and unchecked immigration is also tearing apart the fabric of American society.

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>>36055138
It's dead, anon. They gave up, they're taking the the wreckage of their commiecuck board on a trail of tears to some new chan that the board owner thinks he can run. I'm sure it won't be sustainable and collapse quickly, just like the kinds of societies they advocate for.

>>36052876
I think we should live in socialist ethno-states like strasser.

>>36055206
It's a shame 8 stagnated so hard, it had a decent core of old school 4 users.

>>36053435
Japan has opened themselves to the whole world in every way except for immigration and it worked quite well for them. No reason why nation states should be forced to take foreigners.

>>36055175

>economic situation sucks

yeah if you're lazy and refuse to play the game. if you go to school, get a law/math/engineering degree and make an effort to get internships, there's no reason you shouldn't be making $100k by the time you're 30.

But if you're lazy and don't want to go into a lucrative field or want to cry and moan about the minimum wage then of course you're going to get ass-raped by the financial system.

>>36055270

They're also a tiny little island full of young people committing suicide.

>>36055307
They also have the 3rd largest economy and one of the highest standards of living in the world with no poop skins.

>>36052640
I don't know shit about politics so I can assume any political bias is may hold is personal, I could be wrong.

>>36055334

All work and no play makes Jackie Chan want to off himself. Maybe if they had some migrants to do the crap jobs, they would have a lower suicide rate.

>>36055369
>It bet you gotta import foreigners to do shit jobs goy!
How do homogenous states even exist. They should have all imploded by now

>>36055478

what homogeneous states?

>>36055503
Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Finland Iceland etc

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>>36052640
>Why are young people so politically extreme these days?
They're not. Those guys aren't anarchists. They're bored college students. They are domesticated. Protesting and holding up signs? Lmao, yeah, way to show the illegitimacy of government by operating under its rules.

Extremists don't protest, don't hold rallies. They blow shit up, they don't wait for a law to change things, they change things with violence.

>>36054243
I'm not a conservative or Trump supporter. Although he is a bit "better" than Hillary, he's still supporting a liberal, anti-traditional system.

>>36054862

This shit right here nigga. Living in the most peaceful time in history makes it real fucking easy to judge politicians that lived through far worse times.

>>36052640

Man fuck borders and laws and shit

The reason why young people are politically extreme is due to a natural reaction to how fucked society is right now (most of their views are extremely misguided though). Being a passive centrist is idiotic when radical change WILL happen.

Our society is a globalist, unsustainable cancerous tumor run by a deep-seated elite that controls everything.

>>36052640
Anarchy is fun and so was the liberation of the late 60s-70s.

young people are arrogant as fuck and always assume that their "redpills" are something only they know.

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>>36052640
You know they're only vaguely echoing ideologies that were penned over a century ago right? Like another anon said they're basically just LARPing at this point.

There are no real communists or real anarchists or real fascists. it's just pepes on twitter and emotions on tumblr. Sometimes people walk down the street and hold a sign and then they pat themselves on the back and they go home and record a podcast.

I know because I was one of them.

It's not that now I'm a suit & tie moderate, I just don't care about politics at all outside of a local level. The local mayor & government are much more accountable and have much more of a direct impact on my daily life than a bunch of wealthy pigs that are in charge of the whole country but not really.

>>36053206
>have a better understanding of theory rather than execution

Legitimate point, things take time