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>tfw redpilled and believe Hitler dindu nuffin wrong, know about holohoax and like national socialism but I find pic related to be more attractive than the traditional cute rural girl look promoted in nazi propaganda posters
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>>36038098
> redpilled
> like Nazism
bruh
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>>36038098
>>tfw redpilled and believe Hitler dindu nuffin wrong, know about holohoax
lol
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>>36038200
>>36038144
I am banned from /pol/ I can't make this thread over there, pls no bully ;_;
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I had that problem, but I realised that my attraction to women like that was based on attainability, which was something I only found attractive because of latent degenerate beliefs I have since gotten over.

It was based on just finding a partner, rather than finding a high quality partner.
A degenerate woman will not make a good mother for your children.
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>>36038637
Thanks, this seems like a good reasoning there. I have also noticed when I have grown older I have started to more appreciate the certain set of personality traits more than just mere looks.

I didn't mean girl on pic related is a degenerate or I am attracted to degenerate girls (like fake-tanned Stacey stuff or fat SJW's), I meant she has this tumblr hipster chic look or however that shit is called, and I find that the most attractive looks.
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>>36038720
>I meant she has this tumblr hipster chic look or however that shit is called, and I find that the most attractive looks.

While I'm sure there are exceptions, women who dress that way are not likely to be the kind of woman a man like you probably wants.
At best it shows that she's a trend follower, or relies on approval from a subculture for validation, which can be an issue.
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>>36038850
I kind of follow some of these fashion trends too, for example I like to wear combat boots and skinny jeans sometimes, but I get what you mean, looks can tell a lot about a person. I think when a girl looks very close resemblance of a stereotype, she probably is a stereotype through-and-through.
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>>36038098
who is her? will she be my gf soon?
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>>36038098
Is this bait? You know 98% of people who say Hitler didn't do anything wrong and that the Jews are the root of all evil are doing so ironically, right?
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>>36038920
Not really, this notion is often unironical and soon follows if you watch the documentary The Greatest Story Never Told. Go watch it, best hours you will ever spend.
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>>36039151
And there is the other 2%.
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>>36038200
There is even a document that shows how many Jews were really killed and it wasn't even a quarter million.
Also, there are some newspaper articles dating back to the 1900s were you can read about "6 million massacred jews".
Those numbers about 6 million massacred Jews during WW2 are made up by the (((allies))), especially America.
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>>36038920
You can think whatever you want but it's a well documented fact that Jews (I'm not even saying ALL fucking Jews) are responsible for a lot of despair and cruelty, in the last 230 years alone.
Also considering the fact that Jews were deported out of 109 countries during human history but somehow it's always the other people's fault and it's always "anti semitism".
Remember one of Trump's speech about globalists acting against the interests of the common people? Look it up. Many powerful people chimped out at that speech and said it had "anti semitic undertones" even though Trump never even said anything about Jews at all in that speech. The people who complained about it were coincidently, Jews.
Like I said, you can think what you want but it's a damn clear fact (which isn't even hidden) that Jews have a lot of power, despite only making up a very small amount of the population.
This should just make you think a bit, that's all I'm saying, lad.
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>>36039181
>Exaggerated numbers mean it didn't happen
Also you're going to have to provide multiple sources for the 'under a quarter million' number because pretty much everyone agrees the death toll was much much higher so I'm really interested where you found that groundbreaking information
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>tfw I'm the living embodiment of whatever 4chan tells me to think but I'll never reproduce because the only women who subscribe to my backwater retard ideology are the inbred spawn of sweaty coitus between a stripper and a guy named Cleetus over at lot 52

FTFY
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>>36039258
Oh vey, be a good goy and show some of the documents we created and say they're credible sources.
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>>36039258
I never said "nothing happened" you faggot.
>pretty much everyone agrees the death toll was much much higher
Oh and who is this (((everyone)))?
Also tell me why the facts about the holohoax are so sure and true that you can go to jail for even denying it here in Germany?
Please tell me why an alleged truth has to be safeguarded like that, why is it so bad to deny it if it's indisputable anyway?
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>>36039315
So you're claiming that you know the number ("under a quarter million) yet you can't even provide a source for your own bs number? Did you just make this shit up off the top of your head or did a friend tell you this or?
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>>36039258
His source is Stormfront.
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>>36038098
I'm jewish, roast me my nigga
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>>36039364
>Oh and who is this (((everyone)))?
Various historians and nations, all more credible than some guy on the internet. You also never provided a source for your original number. I'll be going to sleep soon so if you don't post it eventually im just going to assume I got epicly trolled and leave it at that
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>>36039375
stormfags are sad men
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>>36039411
https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/jewish-estimate-sees-number-of-holocaust-dead-drop-to-2-8-million/
This source here has similar claims to mine, although higher than the number I provided but nonetheless it shows that historical "facts" have been utterly faked.
You can make of the provided pictures there what you will but sometime you have to realize that this "holocaust" bullshit is at least partly, one big fucking scam to fool a lot of people for the benefit of a small group of other people.
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>>36039542
This here is also an interesting source, directly from the german concentration camp records, captured by soviets after WW2.

>This figure was reported in the New York Times on March 3rd, 1991.
That's precisely the source. You can probably find the article somewhere in the internet.
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>>36039425
Great argument, faggot.
How can anyone even compete against your intellect.
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>>36039577
Thats just a screenshot with no source.
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>>36038098
>cigarettes
Disgusting, have you ever talked to a smoker, or looked into their mouths?
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>>36038098
That was the quintessentially German/Aryan woman. There's dark-haired Germans.

I dated a German woman from the east (basically the Reich, without the Aryan line) and she was dirty-blonde, hazel and darker than me.
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>>36038920
It begins ironically, to be edgy, but then you get exposed to a wider world history of the events of the war and the NSDAP's rise to power, and you slowly start to realize that Rome has been lying to us about Carthage.
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>>36039622
>no source
I just provided you with one.
The only thing you have to do is find it now with the exact information I gave you.
>inb4 burden of proof
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>>36038098
Retards actually take 4chan memes seriously.
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>>36039762
>fascism
>popular ideology in West Europe just before WWII
>almost changed west civ forever
>"4chan meme"
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>>36039702
I dont know if you know what a credible source is
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>>36039802
Do you think he could ever provide you a physical document when the medium of conversation is a mongolian sweater-knitting hieroglyph cult?

Seriously, there is quite a bit of factual information there, but for starters, please read the pic related just to make you really think about the questions related to holocaust you probably have never thought about.

I never wanted this thread to become a discussion about holocaust, since my question in the OP was about if finding tumblr-fashion attractive is necessarily a bad thing or not, but yeah whatever, let's finish this little sub-topic now that it emerged.
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>>36039590
How was I arguing something? Just a statement of fact
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>>36040240
I wonder how "stormfags are sad men" has anything to do with if they are right or not? Nikola Tesla was also a sad man and probably disregarded by his contemporaries, but did some brilliant things that we only acknowledge in the retrospect.
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>>36038098
Why the fuck is Austria banned from posting on pol?
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>>36038255
Well now that's just sad. But I think you will fit better here. Anyway...

Find one. Dominate her. And I will stop here since you will never able to do that.
But if somehow you managed to do that. Reward for desired behavior. Make sure you both contribute to your relationship.

Just to save you from the jail. Dominate:
>to exert the supreme determining or guiding influence on
If you can't dominate she is simply beyond your level... Or a rabid feminist... regardless don't bother trying.
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>>36040342
Good, now we are getting there, near to the level of discussion I was looking for.

I have to add I have had girlfriends before and I am not a virgin. I really think I am quite able to pick up a girlfriend if I really tried, but in your opinion, what sort of leverage would prove useful in "dominating her"? Is being financially stable necessary or do I just have to be physically fit? Recently been kinda out of shape and nearing the skinnyfat territory.
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>>36039787
Who the fuck talked about fascism?
I'm talking about the holocaust denial meme you bloody illiterate fag.
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>>36040546
>Who the fuck talked about fascism?

OP. You know, the guy you responded to. Idiot
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>>36039258
>arguing with a holocaust denial conspiracy theorist

Waste
Of
Time
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>>36040450
>I have to add I have had girlfriends before and I am not a virgin
I love how you had to state that.

Pic you posted looks to me like typical lost girl with daddy issues. In dominate you simply have to be able to pressure here to do something.
Asking for small favor. Pear pressuring. Reward exists only to prove to her that it's beneficial for her to listen to you. Basically what cults do.
She is the dependent so make sure she has to depend on you. After that you simply can brainwash anyone. That's why dependent people are so vulnerable.
Or she will just exploit the fuck out of you if smarter.

Given she probably won't be buffer then you it boils down to confidence since we are not talking violence here. But if you have no charisma you will fail anyway.
With wealth it depends. It's always better to be both stable emotionally and financially since you are thinking about taking in someone less responsible than you

Rewards themselves might be anything she wants. She actually might need just a good fuck. Then you don't overdo it. You dose it. Like a good dealer would.
Leave them hungry and they come for more. I just started questioning morality of this whole thing. But you will probably fuck it up and make some good headlines.
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>>36040668
>Pear pressuring
peer* Godamit.
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At least link the videos.

Six Million Lies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DijJf5OtIc

Auschwitz - Why the Gas Chambers are a Myth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Kl6RHKIQk

The Biggest Lie by David Irving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk

Buchenwald - A Dumb, Dumb Portrayal of Evil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HlPcaP9x5o

Zundel vs Zionist - Truth vs Lies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Myxi92m4U

The Holocaust Debunked - Ernst Zundel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp85rXHDJCo

Holocaust Faker Explains Himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j30sWIOMIak

The Holocaust Testimonies You Didn't Hear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtlPlZGvgY0

Off Your Knees Germany (Ernst Zundel 1983-2003)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNO7Nxeuq_w

One-Third of the Holocaust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

((((((Spielberg))))))'s Hoax - The Last Days of the Big Lie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8

Holocaust, Hate Speech and Were the Germans so Stupid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uJEE3thwmk

The Truth Behind the Gates of Auschwitz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcgofPKZnlY

The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth (Eric Hunt)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8&feature=youtu.be

Eric Hunt - The Shoah: The Biggest Hoax of the 20th Century?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4BH_704Zrw&feature=youtu.be

The "Holohoax" exposed in 30 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpjqf-vNq6I&feature=youtu.be

Vincent Reynouard: "The Gas Chambers" Yet One More False Witness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMKF1v2I2r8&feature=youtu.be

Vincent Reynouard - Holocaust: Nothing Proven at Nuremberg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChaMQFkqXyw&feature=youtu.be

and yeah, communism killed 100 million +, yet the "holocaust" is the biggest tragedy ever. You can be sent to prison for denying the holocaust. Ever wonder why? Enjoy. Or just believe what they feed you.
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>>36040731
>Or just believe what they feed you.
Isn't this what they are feeding you?
If the jews are so adept at information control, why wouldn't this be another fabrication of theirs to control extremist fringe groups like your own?
It's the single most obvious thing to do and yet there is no argument addressing this.

If you start shouting "lie" with things on such a massive scale, you need to start doubting everything else you know as well.
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>>36040668
This sounds like the old PUA stuff I used to be interested in about few years ago, I managed to read up and hear lots of material on that stuff. Really makes me nostalgic after swimming almost a year now in /pol/'s "degenerate this, degenerate that, traditional lifestyle, gender roles, redpilled marriage etc." memes.

I actually don't know still, maybe it's because I am 23 and still quite young, if I will benefit from maintaining a certain kind of moral code or should I go straight down the selfish PUA road where I just take everything I can before western civilization comes crumbling down.

Speaking about girls, I think you cannot fake confidence, it has to come from something, such as having a group of friends who respect you and gaining your confidence from that. Maybe also from doing something you know, you want, have done before, and believing you can do it again? It must be connected with fully trusting one's self.
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>>36041193
Except only one part makes no attempt delivering any evidence and crucifies anyone questioning it. Truth fears no investigation.

>why wouldn't this be another fabrication of theirs to control
You said it like there is no truth and people act without motivation. This doesn't benefit them.
Would be illogical to do so but beneficial for us. I don't see why to oppose it then.

So yeah. Try to brand everything Jewish. But as with racism and every other buzzword. It's not the word itself that carries the weight of whether it's good or bad.
It's the definition behind it.
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>>36038098
>Hi, I'm a brainwashed retard. Recently, I've found myself starting to slightly rebel against my brainwashing. Help me fix this, bring me back in line.
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>>36041193
They have no control over decentralized groupings like /pol/. We have no leader. How does one control a group without a leader? Collective conscious can never be "manipulated" by a central authority.

Imagine if during french revolution, one revolutionary would have heard it from a peasant sitting in his farm that his revolution is an attempt by the french royality to control his contempt with the monarchy? Sounds ridiculous, right? French revolution was a good example of a collective consciousness arisen within a decentralized group of people bound by not a leader, but by a collective identity, or at very least, a collective contempt against the current order of things.
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>>36041333
I enjoyed your strawman, but besides being clever you provide no insight into how exactly does my OP bother you.
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>>36041327
>Except only one part makes no attempt delivering any evidence and crucifies anyone questioning it. Truth fears no investigation.
Yeah, the people denying it, funny how things go. Nobody argues with these people anymore, because after all, to them every piece of evidence brought forth is just another jewish trick.

>You said it like there is no truth
Tell me, what is truth?

>This doesn't benefit them.
Why not?
If these groups that despise them are going to arise regardless of what they do, would it not be better to have them do these things in a controlled fashion?
Have you ever thought about where the people making this propaganda (it certainly isn't more than that) come from? Why they are doing this? After all, it doesn't benefit them at all, publicly holding such beliefs can, as you said, get you incarcerated at worst.
It seems like something a rational person wouldn't do.

>I don't see why to oppose it then.
Because it's what the global judeo-reptillian conspiracy wants you to think.

>>36041338
You don't need a leader to manipulate a group, why would you think that? Collective conscious is as faulty as any single one, because it's a set of them, if you control many, you control the whole.

Consider the democratic process.
What is it, if not manipulating a large group of people without a leader?
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>>36041288
>certain kind of moral code
I doubt you have any idea what it means. Everybody acts based on selfish. Even utilitarianism revolves around it.
How do you convince someone that something is good? It's beneficial. Something is beneficial for the society... why do you care?
Because it's more beneficial for you to live in rich secure society rather than Uganda. Moral is good, beneficial and healthy.

People act based on that simple principal. Everything else is conscious rationalization. Now you apply to relationship.
One way deal maybe beneficial but the other part will want back out of it. Best deals are one that benefit both sides and that's how you should treat relationship.
There is no magic to love. It's cured logic and I explained to you how to make one with person of questionable quality that wouldn't commit much.
Romance quickly fades away and if there is no other intensives to stay together it will collapse or you will continue unhappy together.

Confidence comes from experience. Just find a good role model and work on it. Remember that you learn on your mistakes.
Nobody does everything perfectly.
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>>36041518
>Yeah, the people denying it
What proves do you have? Can you explain how they were able to burn more than 100 corpses a day when it takes about 8 hours for 1 oven to do so and still leaves enough material that has to be grounded?
Why chimney at Auschwitz was build after the war? And why it's too short? Because all the gases from gas chamber would fall on the camp killing everybody including guards.
How Zyklon B was used to combat lice or some other shit and apparently left blue stains that not every chamber has even tho they claimed it was used there?
And don't get me started on chamber themselves. How there were scratches on the walls even tho human nails are less hard than a fucking cement wall?

And these are the thing off the top of my head. Or... or... maybe rollercoaster that lead to ovens. This story was fucking grate.

>Tell me, what is truth?
Definitely not the repeated lies. Nobody is telling you what's real but what was a lie.

>If these groups that despise them
I don't care. Napoleon:
>"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
You are not going to prove anything you claimed or have anything close to an argument. If it's ok there are no measure of control set upon unlike right now. Censorship is real.
Attempts at controlled opposition existed. But always crashed at the moment leader tried to turn it around. This moment was when they tried to do something that benefits them.
People are not blind or stupid. Didn't fell for it. What's your turning point here? What will they gain after all of this? There is non.
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>>36041609
>based on selfish
selfishness*
>Now you apply to relationship
apply that to*
>One way deal maybe
may be*

I should start double checking.
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>>36041822
>ad 1:
I don't care. What bothers me is people telling outlandish stories of amazing information control without seeing the implications of ascribing your perceived enemy with this ridiculous competence.

>ad 2:
I meant that in a more general sense.
What does "truth" mean to you?

>ad 3:
I don't need to prove a thing, that's why my argument is so wonderful. I just take what you assume to be true (the jews are very skilled at manipulating information) and use it to draw my own conclusions (the jews may well be manipulating the people who didn't fall for their initial manipulation and there is no evidence of this because they are very skilled at manipulating information). I am not aware of anything short of rejecting the idea that the jews are master manipulators that can actually do anything to this argument, but you can't do that, because it would also defeat your own. It's a catch-22.

I don't what else you're saying in that paragraph, it feels kinda non-sequitur, due to your obviously lacking grasp of the English language

You still haven't addressed this btw:
>Have you ever thought about where the people making this propaganda (it certainly isn't more than that) come from? Why they are doing this? After all, it doesn't benefit them at all, publicly holding such beliefs can, as you said, get you incarcerated at worst.
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>>36038255
>banned from /pol/
Even /pol/ doesn't want you, and that's saying something. Get the fuck outta here we don't want you either.
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>>36038098
>red pilled
>on website for friendless autists

makes a load of sense huh?
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>>36041975
>outlandish stories of amazing information control
As? You mean ones that Holocaust was built upon?

>What does "truth" mean to you?
Vague and pointless question here. Ask you philosophy professor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth
All I need is measurable evidence.

>I don't need to prove a thing, that's why my argument is so wonderful
It was a logical mistake. I think we are done here. You didn't address a single point I've made. And I'm not going to repeat myself.

>lacking grasp of the English language
If you had any you wouldn't have problem understating it. I'm in a hurry and I'm not going to bother checking things you are just going to ignore anyway.

>You still haven't addressed this btw
IRONY is lost on you.

Nice assumptions. Now prove it is a propaganda. People who make it actually write books and put their names on it. Documentaries and put their faces in.
Truth benefits honest people. Definitely not you. This world is build on trust and it dose benefit normal people do reinforce truth.
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>>36042187
And so the very first point I made in >>36041518 shows itself to be true once more.
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>>36042207
Make a logical connection then because I don't see it. Aka explain.
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>>36041975
>Can you explain any of it?
>I don't care
Stellar.
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>>36038098
>tfw redpilled
just fucking kill yourself you newfag
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