Where does one start in philosophy?

>I know I should have posted this on /lit/
he writes in the past tense, as he continues to write his post on /r9k/.

>>36035850
Who cares, they were all syphilitic faggots like you, OP

>>36035881
>ancient philosophers who didn't even know of they were in the Old World

>New World disease

Okay retard

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Plato. I always like Gorgias. The Republic is more famous. Aristotle's Physics is also interesting. Aurelius if you're into pop normie self-help shit

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>>36035904
>who didn't even know of they were in the Old World
Turns out they weren't so smart after all.

>>36035935
Only Eratosthenes matters.

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>>36035923
>Not starting with the presocratics

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism

http://pioneer.chula.ac.th/~pukrit/bba/Epictetus.pdf

millionsofmouths.com/diogenes.html

https://tripinsurancestore.com/4/on-the-shortness-of-life.pdf

http://files.libertyfund.org/files/2133/Aurelius_1464_LFeBk.pdf

>>36035949
I think you mean only black lives matters.

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>>36035850
Jason and the Golden Fleece by Apollonius of Rhodes
Poetics by Aristotle
The Trojan Women and Other Plays by Euripides
The Histories by Herodotus
The Iliad by Homer
Republic by Plato
Greek Lives by Plutarch
Antigone, Oedipus the King, Electra by Sophocles

Given that you're new to philosophy, a crash course in philosophy in general could do no harm, maybe an introductionary 101 philosophy book would be a good read, or seeing you post this here on /r9k/ here's a reasonably good youtube series on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A_CAkYt3GY&list=PL8dPuuaLjXtNgK6MZucdYldNkMybYIHKR

>>36035955
Gorgias was pre-Socratic. Doesn't stop him from getting btfo by Socrates tho.

I'm a fan of Zeno but it doesn't really make sense to start with him.

>>36035850
read the stoics imo

>>36035850
if you know literally nothing about the topic, try a college textbook on critical thinking. its something you probably want before you dive into ancient greek philosophers or some shit.

>>36035850
One of my first that ive read, and i havent read many, is Seneca's "letters from a stoic". Really easy to read and incredibly interesting

>>36036265
Seneca is super accessible

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>>36036100
It's a shame that there is a great lack of modern philosophers that haven't given themselves over to pre-defined social norms and political ambitions.

The Ancient Greeks, Romans, and Christian philosophers that followed are the only ones yet uncorrupted by the modern bureaucracy of Authoritarian democracy, which places such a great emphasis on uniformity, nationalism, and discourages free thought and true free speech wherever it be unless there is direct profit to be gained of it.

Therefore the evolution from these philosophies has produced nothing but lies, schemed to be philosophy while only following rules that society deems acceptable, which in turn is not philosophy as philosophy is focused on using logic and reason to achieve conclusion, not enforced uniformity.

>>36035850
The greeks are a meme. Try my diary desu

>>36036265
>>36036169
Stoics are a good choice.


I'd start like this.

1. The Bible
2. The Illiad - Homer
3. Meditations - Marcus Aurelius
3. Most of Seneca's works
4. Socrates - Plato
5. Republic - Plato

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>>36035923
>plato
Nice bait faggot.

>>36035850
not on /lit/, on /his/
philoshophy is humanities, not liturature

here are the most core western philoshophy books before the analyitic/continental split, in order
the republic - plato
nicomancean ethics -aristotle
meditations - descrates
the ethics - spinoza
an inquiry concerning human understanding - hume
crituque of pure reason - kant

>>36036465
>Socrates by plato

what the fuck

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There's no point thinking about philosophy unless you understand a certain amount of physics. Read
>Jackson
>Sakurai
>Weinberg
>Ashcroft and Mermin
>Kardar

Then read the Upanishads and Bhagavad Gita

Here you go:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/edit

>>36035850
the stranger -Albert Camus

If you want to learn medicine, you don't first study antique medicine.
Unless you want to be a medical historian.
I recommend skipping all that historical non-sense and go straight to reasoning and practical philosophy.
Teaching philosophy the same way you'd teach history seems horribly wrong to me.