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Anyone ever question why we hold leaders such as presidents, prime ministers and kings in such high regard when in reality they are no different than you and I....?

What makes the President of the United States so special that he gets to rule over the country?

What makes a king any more fit to lead a group of human beings than any other man?

These people that get these positions in our society aren't very smart, nor do they have righteous values that encourage them to do things for truth and justice. They are just men.

Old, greedy, sociopathic men.

Why has there never been a genius leader in modern history? Do smart people just naturally avoid leadership roles? Why is it always the most evil human beings that achieve the most power? Are the good just simply too weak?
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>>35930891
Imagine you are really good at a game. Always coming up with new strategies and dominating your opponents by thinking up clever ways to beat them. At some point the 'meta' of the game will stabilize and you will start losing to people just cheesing out the lamest, most efficient strategy there is. It doesn't matter if you invented it, it is much easier to copy than invent. No matter how hard you try, you can't beat them without investing the same effort into the trivial details(like hotkeys and micro) and using the most efficient strategy no matter how boring. In real life it is the same, except in addition to being boring, the most efficient strategy is also to be completely ruthless, contrary to your human nature.
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>>35930891
nobody likes the leaders because everyone knows what you know
we merely elect wicker men for scapegoating projection
the leaders also know this so merely ignore everyone and fuck sluts and go full gangster
not sure how to stabilize this degenerating situation. perhaps governance by governmentbots
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>>35930891
>Why has there never been a genius leader in modern history

Because they are smart enough to realize that if they actually tried to change the world for the better, than their lives would be in danger.
Llook what they did to Perot. The man announced his intention to end paid lobbyists, end special interests, balance the budget, slash military spending, and generally cost multiple groups of people billions of dollars. And he was called crazy by the mainstream media when he claimed he and his family had been receiving death threats on a daily basis.
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>>35930891
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement

Not particularly popular.
Kings id say are alot different than presidents.
Alot of rulers were leading armies to battle, inspiring their troops aswell as civilians at home, constantly fighting and conquering.
Presidents just talk shit do nothing collect the money.
You cannot become a president if youre honest. Your honest reality on a campaign will look much worse than something other candidates will make up on the spot and people will have a hard time figuring out who is lying who is not.

Also this >>35931198
Gonna sound very /pol/ here but the jewery runs deep.
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>>35930891
>What makes the President of the United States so special that he gets to rule over the country?
Are you retarded? Do the words, experience and learning mean anything to you?

>What makes a king any more fit to lead a group of human beings than any other man?
He's usually taught from early on how to lead, and also has advisors and the like
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>>35931435
>You cannot become a president if youre honest. Your honest reality on a campaign will look much worse than something other candidates will make up on the spot and people will have a hard time figuring out who is lying who is not.
that's how democracy is shit and why the founding fathers made a republic instead
notice how our dear rulers go on and on about democracy, that's because it is a code word for tyranny
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>>35931462
The current President is an old man bordering dementia and has very little understanding of politics.

A king is born into a family who believe they were chosen by God to rule over man. This is absurd since he is not some otherworldly being that has the answers to everyone's problems.
He is just an inbred rich guy.
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>>35930891
why should truth or justice be the highest value?
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>>35931518
>The current President is an old man bordering dementia and has very little understanding of politics.
That's because of democracy. People CHOSE the leader they wanted, and that is why he is in power.

>A king is born into a family who believe they were chosen by God to rule over man. This is absurd since he is not some otherworldly being that has the answers to everyone's problems.
He is just an inbred rich guy.
And he is also taught and educated to fill the role of king, you fucking nitwit
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>>35931556
The fact that he has to be taught anything is more than enough evidence he is not a divine being despite his lineage. That makes him human. Fallible. Mortal. No different than a man that breaks his back toiling in the fields.
You are small time.
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>>35931535
Your question is flawed. Any sort of question involving 'why should', is dependent on your values. It is therefore impossible to give an answer to 'why should you value x'.
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>>35931614
>The fact that he has to be taught anything is more than enough evidence he is not a divine being despite his lineage. That makes him human. Fallible. Mortal. No different than a man that breaks his back toiling in the fields.
Than how is anyone liable to lead a country?
No one is born a leader.
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>>35931487
Democracy is shit because the voters are absolute imbeciles.
Id like to forget about 1 person ruling the country or whatever, it should really be a group of people. If your opinions are never challenged because you are at the top you are more prone to make a mistake and then another one that has basis in your previous one. But if you have 10 other people challenging you every step of the way, and you challenge them, id like to imagine that the group would end up making better decisions.
>>35931614
Yeah no shit hes a fucking human. But generally a human thats taught to do something from young age will be better than a human that is not in that particular thing, what kind of an argument are you even making here.
The most skilled pianist on the planet, is he a human? He sure fucking is, but can you play as good as he can? You sure cannot. Why? Because he was practicing and being taught from young age and you havent. That makes him more fit to play at a ceremony than you.
>>35931535
Because in general humans dont like it when they see injustice and lies.
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>>35931518
>A king is born into a family who believe they were chosen by God to rule over man.
>This is absurd since he is not some otherworldly being that has the answers to everyone's problems.
that's not what chosen by god means though, so those two statements arent causally connected
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>>35931614
>150+ IQ white men are just like 50 IQ niggers
okay
nice logic
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>>35931687
My point is the same skills can be taught by someone who is not of royalty, therefore making the title itself rather pointless.

Why should anyone simply follow the orders of someone that declares themselves "fit to rule by right of divinity" when they are just a mere man that is just as fallible as the poorest peasant.
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>>35931687
>humans dont like it when they see injustice and lies
who says humans are even able to competently identify injustice or lies? if this is true wouldn't it place hiding lies at least as valuable as not lying?
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>>35931737
>My point is the same skills can be taught by someone who is not of royalty, therefore making the title itself rather pointless.
We don't have absolute monarchies anymore you know
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>>35931760
Just pretend we do for the sake of the argument
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>>35931760
Granted, people back then didn't really know any better.

If someone said that God chose them to rule over everyone, then they just rolled with it.
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>>35931784
No, there's no reason. Everyone realizes monarchies are pointless, and now they don't exist anymore.
Your point regarding monarchies has already been thought of, you're not creating anything new.

>>35931808
Yes, of course. That was why they were everywhere, the masses were largely uneducated.
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>>35930891
Who holds them in any regard but disdain? They're almost, to a man, assholes and selfish pricks out to get what they can for themselves. By the time they get to the top position they feel like they've "paid their dues" and should get back from the system.
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>>35930891
The difference between politicians and us is that politicians are powerhungry psychopaths with a knack for pandering to the masses. And democracy is the perfect system for them, because they any anger towards politicians can be redirected to the voters themselves.
>Why has there never been a genius leader in modern history?
Have you never heard of Adolf Hitler?
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>>35931737
Yeah and you could go ahead and become the best pianist in the world does that discredit the current pianist?
And in general back when kings were in power you couldnt exactly go to a school on how 2 lead people or visit how2leadpeople dot com.
The prince had far superior education and on top of that he is being raised to be a king, his whole life since birth is just a build up to him becoming the king. Its not like everyone in the kingdom was a great diplomat and a leader studying to be so from young age, no they were working on the farm.
>>35931739
Whats just and unjust is subjective though you could find a pattern when asking multiple people, injustice id say is easily identifiable.
As far as lies go, in this particular context, if you lie about everything youre going to do whats in power and then do nothing or exact opposite you are harming everyone that supported you and maybe others that didnt. Sure nobody gives a shit if you lie about what you ate last night, but when it comes to making promises about how youre going to lead a country, much different.
And of course there is the emotional element in all of this and thats that people feel betrayed when they realise you lied, they trust you less, and without trust most relationships die.
There is a saying, far from the eyes far from the hearth, if nobody knows you lied i guess it doesnt matter, but the longer you lie on top of a lie, its easier to discover that somethings wrong. And the more you lied the more betrayal the people you lied to will feel.
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>>35930891
If someone wants power, odds are they'll misuse it, and have bad intentions.

The wise seek to limit power.
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