Wake up anon. It's not healthy.

>>35804078
I'm too dum to grasp this truth.

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>>35804110
Oh but you will. If not now, then you'll live this truth when it will be too late to do anything about it.

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>>35804078
>we are dust
And dust is power.

>>35804138
12/10 game. Such beautiful art

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>>35804149
Yeah but that pic size was pathetic. Let me do better, this time. Don't know why I went 500x200. Weak.

>>35804078
The answer is to become an actual wizard and dedicate yourself to the study of something. You don't even need to be qualified. Computers are real life magic and mathematics is the language of the gods. Study them and become a true sorcerer of infinite power.

>>35804138
>>35804167
Broken lords are my favourite. I feel like noone else played this game.

>>35804137
I know it and I know that I will probably live in a world of shit. But not yet.

>>35804171

And instead of trying to be successful with woman, just treat people right and be helpful.

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>>35804171
t. young guy, most likely with ok health.

>>35804217
Soon.

>>35804223
>just be a doormat
Believe it or not this kind of lifestyle will eventually put your very survival in jeopardy.

>>35804247
>Believe it or not this kind of lifestyle will eventually put your very survival in jeopardy.

I just think the best thing in life next to just enjoying yourself is being of service to others, and you don't need a gf or sex to get that. That's why I don't mind being a virgin. Sex would only feed my ego, it wouldn't really enrich me in any deep or meaningful way.

>>35804247
>tfw 29
>don't even remember being 26, 27 or 28
I am so far behind that it's not even funny. It's no longer possible to catch up.

>>35804247
Young guy is correct. Health is awful though

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>>35804293
>I just think the best thing in life next to just enjoying yourself is being of service to others, and you don't need a gf or sex to get that. That's why I don't mind being a virgin. Sex would only feed my ego, it wouldn't really enrich me in any deep or meaningful way.
I undestand this perspective, but I'd say you'll change your mind. You're a mammal and mammals are built to seek a mate. I'm not saying that promiscuous sex is a good idea, I'm saying that it's a very rare guy that can spend his lifetime alone with no love, in a healthy and balanced manner.

>>35804299
Depends on what you want to accomplish, I'd say. But yeah. Doors are closing faster and faster as you age.

>>35804303
Your eyes are in good shape, at least, or you would never have suggested computers.

>>35804078
I would if I could op, just fuck off. Do you think I enjoy this life? Do you think I would continue to live like this unless is was my best option? Just fuck off.

>>35804247
>moved beyond the first step of their careers
ehhh not really
>have their own place
yup
>car
yup
>long-term partner
nope
>money to take "serious vacations"
I went to London in January and I'm planning a trip to the Bahamas in May
>might marry
nope probably never
>maybe even kids
nope
>responsible adults
what, I know plenty of 27+ year olds who are complete fuck ups and they are certifiable normies

>>35804472
>I'm saying that it's a very rare guy that can spend his lifetime alone with no love, in a healthy and balanced manner.

Its still hard to be healthy and balanced even with sex, some of the most crazy, unhappy and degenerate people have plenty of sex. I've kinda accepted that my life is gonna be a bit of a whirlwind, I just want to do as many nice things as I can between the craziness as I can.

>just pull yourself up by the bootstraps man!!

>>35804137
>monk mode
That's just the red pills way of avoiding real life and rationalizing your lack of motivation. It's an excuse to just go to work, come home and dick around.
>I'm in monk mode
No you're a loser.

>>35804078
>just stop being a loser lmao
At last i truly see

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>>35804507
I don't think anything and my life is way worse than yours, fucking idiot.

>>35804542
Good luck anyway.

>>35804555
You could also suck my dick :3

>>35804571
What do you mean? From what I undestand monkmode is focusing on one single thing and dropping everything else (especially entertainment) to achieve it. For instance focusing on getting your licence or a diploma, or a job.

>>35804585
Well, anon. Are you going to stop being a loser then?

:^)

>>35804744
fuck you you don't want to help us just kick us while we're down

>>35804744
>What do you mean? From what I undestand monkmode is focusing on one single thing and dropping everything else (especially entertainment) to achieve it. For instance focusing on getting your licence or a diploma, or a job.
Yeah, I don't think doing something like that is the best idea. Ignoring all the enjoyable parts of your life for years just to focus on something like a job or a degree? Life isn't about jobs and degrees, why would you forego the best parts of life for something like work? You need to have a balance. People will forget about you.

And a lot of people use 'monk mode' as an excuse to not do anything. They work all day, come home and go to sleep for a year and think they're in an upward spiral when they're just neglecting every other part of their lives.

>>35804744
Keep posting shit like this though, I love reading it. It gives me a spark of motivation, even if it is temporary. I might turn that motivation into something one of these days.

>>35804744
>Even the worst possible life is better than no life
Oh Lord, my sides

>>35804507
I'm not OP and I'm not trying to give you any normie advice or try to motivate you, I just have a serious genuine question.

What's holding you back? Why is this life your best option? I'm sure you've tried to better yourself, why didn't it work?

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>>35804796
>us
You're most likely a little kid. You're not "us".

>>35804817
Eh, I disagree. For some this whole moderation ("balance") mantra thing works, others have to quit cold turkey the things that hold them back. An alcoholic has to give up alcohol to get his life back. Not just drink less.

My understanding of monkmode is hard, focused work, total dedication. Normal wageslaving isn't monkmode indeed.

>>35804836
Well yeah at least it forces you to reflect a bit on yourself and what you want in life, where you're going, etc.

>>35804891
I know, right.

I don't know where to leave this so it's going here.

I'm 33. One thing that I really, really wish I was taught is that being socially developed and well liked by people is just as important, if not more, than being successful academically/materially/career wise.

I fell for the "just bee yourself" meme. It's not about focusing on your studies or career. If you want a girlfriend/wife/circle of friends when you're older, being socially developed is the imperative. Having a career, house, car means jack shit if you're unlikable.
Don't get me wrong, they're nice things to have, but it won't make you happy or attractive to other people.

t. A lonely 33 year old guy with no social skills

>>35805133
Society teaches you that if you have a career and education, everything else will just fall into place.

>>35805133
or: your life is cursed and you get shit on no matter what.
i'm opposite spectrum robot. i'm socially developed and people like me, but i have zero ambition and am a highschool drop out.

you either live comfortably, but alone or live with loved ones but are basically poor. the economy will barely allow for anything else.

>>35804078
Yeah well I don't really look forward for le good future, I just want to do what I want to do and die

I don't care about family, girlfriends, having a good paying job, literally my only goal in life is to make a film, that's it, I don't care if nobody sees it, I just want do that

I'll end up killing myself if I don't do it, I want to try and make the best of this life and at least do something that will put my name somewhere and be remembered somehow

>>35805133
I believe one can only start being yourself after getting close to someone. Starting off as acquaintances, basic social skills are needed to not seem repulsive to others. After that, you can start showing your messed up side and people who really want to stay around you will accept that side of you.

30 year old here. Like the OPs screenshots

>I've lost interest in almost everything
>I have no career options
>I've lost the ability to meaningfully socialise with people
>human beings have become either obstacles or tools, everyone around me makes me angry in some way. I can't love the people in my life anymore, they're just irritating baggage to me
>I have basically no emotional affect which creeps people out, basically I just don't feel anything anymore. I can't even bring myself to fake a smile
>I find almost nothing funny, I couldn't even tell you what kind of sense of humour I have
>recently I've been wishing for death the very moment I wake up. I get this powerful desire for death that makes it very difficult to find any motivation to get out of bed.
>my life has finished in every single sense save one

You young folk can avoid this fate if you put in the effort. Don't let your humanity slip away because it will if you remain secluded from mainstream society.

>humanity today now means go out and get a smart phone and join Facebook and Tinder

sad

>>35805392
What if I plan to go for a PHD and will likely finish it when/past I'm 30? Am I still fucked?

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I'm 31.

I get the "loss of interest" thing pretty hard. I played piano from ages 4-19 and was pretty damned good. Then I went to college, it was harder to find a piano and enough privacy to practice, and now suddenly I haven't played piano for nearly half my life. Same thing for all my interests growing up. Even computers are starting to throw me off; this new windows "Ribbon" shit is like deciphering some shitty third world chink language that isn't even suited for technical stuff.

The weird identity crisis from falling away from everything I once loved is odd; it alienates me from my own self. I'm trying to get back in to things, but it seriously feels like relearning after a stoke.

>>35805069
Do you have more motivational screencaps? These make me wanna get up and do something.

I'm in my mid twenties now, and about the last year and a half have ones of disappointment and regret. It's finally waking up and realizing the mistakes and choices I've made do have consequences that I now have to live with. It's actually seeing how far ahead my peers are: careers that they enjoy, partners, owning something etc. I do think that I will have kids one day, and I have sworn to myself that I will not let this happen to my own kids. I will push them to achieve and strive for good things. The responsibility for my actions rest on myself, but I do in part blame my parents for having such a hands-off approach to raising me. I wasn't neglected at all, but they always had the attitude of "do what you want, just don't get into trouble". I now see that should have been pushing me to make something of myself.

>>35805426
No, what's sad is people like OP have such egos that they think that 99.9 percent of life is sex. For fucks sake.

>>35805432
It's fairly normal for people to finish PhDs after 30 I think, you should be fine.

>25 year old guy
>been working shitty jobs
>currently doing a stint at a factory job
>every day at break time I sit there look at these people who have been working in this same factory for 25+ years
>swear to myself that I won't let it end like this
>going back to school in September

Jesus christ, what an eye opener.

>>35804078
I'm only 22 and I'm already like this. Hell, I've been like this most of my life.

I've never had any real aspirations. As a kid and an adult, the only thing I ever go out of my way to do is play video games. That's all I've got, all I've ever had. Anything else I do is something someone else asked or told me to do.

I've always just been a shell of a human bean, patiently waiting for the clock to run out.

>>35805556

The great secret is that a happy life is not the default condition. You don't automatically get a fullfilling life just by being born into this world. The people around you, who you see being happy and following their dreams, they are working to be happy and to be content.

All we are is dust in the wind.

>I close my eyes. Only for a moment and that moments gone.

>>35804247
>tfw 26
>tfw NEET with no idea how to live like an adult

I know no one will take me seriously. Call me a normie, I don't give a fuck, I'm still a virgin.

People tell me I'm good looking, friends from my work, girls from work. Like they flirt with me and I'm obviously too autistic to advance, I don't even want to. Thing is, this one girl told me I should be a model. I was stunned, and I felt like she was bullshitting, but she then said she was serious and told me I should do it.

God gave me good genetics. 6'2", aryan features, good facial structure. But I have crippling social anxiety, but this modelling thing I feel like could be interesting, and if it works out I would be happy. How do I over come this fear and try doing this?

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>>35804247
>Believe it or not this kind of lifestyle will eventually put your very survival in jeopardy.

>>35804247
that png is such a truthbomb

when I turned 26 I was like wtf I just turned 30. I felt it. every year from 18-25 felt like nothing.

I got lucky and started going to uni as a mature student at 24, still dicked around more than I should have while I was there because I kept hanging with the same losers and stuff

Anyway for young guys that post is DEAD ON. You hit 27 and you're in your career/married/LTR or you're just some sad outsider loser who doesnt have "Senior" infront of their title at work

I just used to get high cause I had lots of anxiety and depression, I still have depression but less anxiety and never get high anymore

>>35805426

This just reeks of denial and desperate rationalization to avoid facing the crushing truth.

9 years until wizardry but I've already accepted that I'll stay this way forever. My mind is too fucked, always was, there is no way out for me.

>>35805619
okay then what is humanity now?
keep in mind: America has no healthcare, we have the worst education now and marriage rates and white birth rates are at an all time low, immigration is at an all time high.

but yeah, i'm avoiding facing the truth, suuuuure.

>>35805612

I imagine you can look up various methods and techniques, but the basic truth is that you will have to want to change yourself. No matter what kind of hand you have been dealt in life, your only option is to play with what you have. The alternative should never be an option. So maybe you have it harder than someone else, I'm not diminishing that, but it doesn't change the basic truth.

>>35805580
That's just it, the drive to have a happy, fulfilling life isn't there. It was never there. I've never wanted anything more than to just sit in a corner and wait to die while distracting myself with pointless entertainment.

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guys stop you're making me feel bad

>>35805648

You're talking about a lot shit that is wholly beyond the discussion we're having in this thread. My point is that the things that people generally want are the same they've always been, and that there is happiness and fullfillment to be found in those things.

Anyone who really wants to grow needs to read the charisma myth

or just a summary which saves all of her verbose bullshit she added in to justify selling a book

>>35805648
Stop listening to people that talk this way it's not true. America isn't a destitute nation filled with ignorance and violence.

>>35805687
and let me guess, you have none of those things? how would you even know?

3 years until wizardry where, I'm almost to that point now. Yesterday I managed to play vidya for a whole three hours before I was overcome with boredom, even though it was a new game it still felt like I had just done it all before, seen it all before.

I haven't even watched any anime in a month due to the same feeling. I don't think it will be long until I get out.

>>35805658
It isn't fair. I could be a chad but everything mentally is the opposite. Depression, anxiety, fear of everything.

It fucking pisses me off, I want to kill myself sometimes because of the time I waste on the computer doing nothing all day. I'm 21 now. I feel like if I don't accomplish much between now and 24, I'm 100% offing myself. Just for my own good.

>>35805680

Do you never think about things that you would like? Do you never imagine a situation for yourself where you see yourself as being happy?

>not literally swallowing your pride

venlafaxinebois

I realized that i will be alone my whole life.
Im 21, joined the military recently.
Going to try for my countries sf.
Already am im monk mode just trying to better myself in any way not paying attention to normies.

>>35805716

I don't "know" anything to be absolutely sure. I'm sharing an opinion about what I believe. What or who I am is of little consequence.

>>35805617
Why do you retards act like everything is set in stone. There are no set rules. There's plenty of people that go to school in their 30s and get successful careers. There's people who start businesses in their parents basement. Do what the fuck you wanna do and do what you gotta do, but stop labeling everything like there's a fucking time limit.

>>35805680
This

>>35805735
Not him, but no. It's literally impossible at this point

We should have a /r9k/ meet up. I have no friends, no one understands me. If I met any of you guys I would be nice, even if you are the ugliest midget on planet, as long as you could talk I would give you a chance.

>>35805757
You're gonna get hazed until you quit. Military lads hate spergs like you so prepare to live in hell.

>>35804138
and dust is power*

>>35805760
okay fair enough then.

All you twenty-somethings in thread talking about how you're doomed and there is no way out, please get over yourself. Don't let yourself fall into the trap of self pity and indulge in your own misery. You literally have your whole life ahead of you. You can do anything you set your mind to.

Stop creating barriers and limits for yourself.

>>35805735
All I would "like" out of life is a decent job that pays enough to keep a roof over my head while having enough extra money for video games, which I have.

I kind of thought having a GF might make me happy, but after a short thing where I ended up being friendzoned I realized that even a relatio ship wasn't worth the effort I'd have to put in.

There's just something fundamentally human missing in me.

>>35805820

It's like that Gotye song that was popular some years back:

"You can get addicted to a certain kind of sadness".

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>>35805820
>You literally have your whole life ahead of you.

Just don't. Stop saying that, it never works.

>>35805841

>There's just something fundamentally human missing in me.

I generally don't like the idea that anyone is incapable of finding fullfillment or happiness. And I say this as a fellow underachieving male in his twenties. None of us are unique snowflakes with some special, never seen before struggle.

>>35804247
Why the fuck does everyone act like getting a job will magically get you a social life. Fuck this world, I will never be able to get over whatever is holding me back from connecting with people. No external achievements will allow me to overcome my internal weakness. It just makes me miserable to work because it doesn't move me towards the only thing that I actually want: friends. I could have a great high paying job and I know I would still be just as miserable.

>>35805841

You say that all you would want out of life, you already have. But feeling miserable is not the sign of a fullfilled existence, anon.

>>35805778
well see anon
havent had any problems so far

>>35804137
I have a job. I'm still here.

one thing you won't see in this thread or any thread on r9k that every single person on r9k needs, but never receives:

consolation.

it's really easy to say suck it up, you have your whole life ahead of you, things gets better, but no one actually wants comfort these people.

you have a lost child, crying, scared, you have an adult come up, pat the child on the head, then walk away.
that's r9k right there. i guarantee most people on this board don't hear nice things said about them, that's why there's so much hatred here.

>>35805856

Anon, I must say, I deal with this kind of reaction a lot, and it just stinks of self-indulgent fatalism. It's easy to deny that change is possible. It's comfortable to maintain that everyone is fucked, so therefore no effort is needed. It's a scream for attention.

>>35805912
I'm not miserable though. Just neutral, empty.

>>35805928

What's your point here?

That we should all just agree how miserable we are and that any kind of change is impossible. That is just emotional masturbation.

>>35805458
Yikes my dude. 28 here. I went through something similar when I quit drugs. I lost interest in even my own children. Now I'm a nerdy dad that loves vidya and anime.

>>35805820

If you're a twenty-something, you're already past adolescence. You know your physical and mental limitations.

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>>35805473
Unfortunately my folder is completely random, so I can't really find specific things.

>>35805474
>I do think that I will have kids one day, and I have sworn to myself that I will not let this happen to my own kids. I will push them to achieve and strive for good things.
Not sure if it's the way to go. Usually it translates into pushing your own expectations onto your kids, forcing them to live the life you wanted but never had. Not saying there's a good way to raise kids anyway.

>The responsibility for my actions rest on myself, but I do in part blame my parents for having such a hands-off approach to raising me. I wasn't neglected at all, but they always had the attitude of "do what you want, just don't get into trouble". I now see that should have been pushing me to make something of myself.
It's the father's duty to push you forward. Many of us had an helicopter mom/passive father paradigm. Interesting lecture about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50FbeazFkgs

>>35805487
What kind of sick strawman is that, anon? Come on.

>>35805612
Your comment is useless if you don't state your age. There's a world of difference if you're 18 or 28. In any case you're lucky : physically attractive + social anxiety is easier to fix than ugly body (actually ugly) + socially okay, contrary to what the idiots here think.

>>35805766
I kind of agree with you but there is definitely a time limit. No, you don't find a gf when you're 70, no, you don't pick up kitesurf when you're 80. We're not immortal, anon. And you don't live your life with your teenager health, provided you had the chance to be healthy, ever. Which isn't my case.

>>35805777
How would that work? The only people that would go to a meetup are bound to be the ones that are closer to the normie end of the spectrum.

>>35805820
Some of us have to put a lot of work and time in keeping our bodies alive. But I agree that self pity and victim mentality cripple us more than we'd like to acknlowledge.

>>35805928

But the people posting here are not children, anon. And you mistake an urging and insistent tone for hatred.

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>>35804078
>You lose interest in things you once found enjoyable
This is more likely to be depression than just 'losing interest' in EVERYTHING you enjoy doing.
Sure, depression is often caused by no human contact, but being a wizard doesn't mean being a hardcore basement dweller with literally no friends, it just means not having intimate relationships.

If anything, I'd probably do better if I lost interest in vidya since I'd actually bother relearning music and maybe even pick up shooting like I was thinking of doing.

Socializing in person is torture for me. I'm happier just being anonymous on the internet.

>>35805949
>It's a scream for attention.
yes

>>35805989

There is a happy medium between having a completely lassiez faire, hands-off approach to parenting, and literally having a plan set out for the child from the moment it is born.

The point is that parents should encourage their kids to achieve and work hard. They shouldn't necessarily demand that the kid becomes a lawyer or a doctor, but rather that the kid discovers his passions for himself and does something with his life.

>>35805989
>The only people that would go to a meetup are bound to be the ones that are closer to the normie end of the spectrum.

We need to set a criteria.

Possibly virgins only. (No homo)

>>35805991
yeah, they aren't children alright, maybe not physically. anyway, it's an analogy, stop dodging the point.
i'm gonna just start ignoring people who dodge points, because you guys are faggots and it always ends in a pointless argument of semantics, fuck off kindly.

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>>35804247
>girls are now WOMEN at your age
>I'm 31

there should be more threads like this

>>35806064
My parents heavily disagree with this. Either you become a doctor or a lawyer and marry a [enter your ethnicity here] girl, or just kill yourself. It has made me a successful individual but I sometimes get flashbacks of abuse that makes me so angry I break what I'm holding.

>>35806090

Allright. Restate your point then, because I don't get you're trying to argue in your post.

I've read this entire thread and nothing changed. How does it feel to be powerless, normies.

>>35806110
making a statement isn't an argument. English 101.

the point is that there is so much hate here because no one on this board is ever consoled IRL and you never see consolation on this board, only hate and criticism.

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>>35806141
you penetrate some jew's anus with the fingers you typed that comment with, n33t scum?

I'm 18 but I feel like my life is already over.
About to graduate (it's 5 years here) and I don't know if I should go to uni considering the only things I'm good at is worthless humanities subjects..

>>35806141

Let's not get bogged down in pointless semantics. I'm sure you take my meaning.

I don't believe there is anymore hate in this particular thread than anywhere else on 4chan. So the answer must be that you perceive something as hate that I do not. You say you want to see more consolation and less "criticism", but what does that mean? That you want people to just basically agree with each other? To just say to each other that everything is gonna be fine and to just continue their miserable existence? What you call criticism is actually the only really worthwhile consolation. It is encouragement that people can change.

So I was a little shitbird back when I was 18. I had some great scholarships to a decent uni. I had a breakdown and couldn't function. My procrastination got out of control and I never left my dorm. Even could go 2 days without eating. Well I got kicked out of school after using up my appeals. I spent years working shitty retail type jobs and living with my parents. I felt like my life was over. It took me 5 years of being a piece of shit till i tried to fix anything.


I am in the process now of getting my shit together. I am graduating with an engineering degree in may at the age of 29. I have an interview coming up at a good company that I have a really good shot at. I am doing this along side 22-23 year olds. So i really feel behind the curve.


so I am a recovering failure. I am still a failure in most aspects of life. Once I have my degree and a decent job I'll have made it a decent way as far as catch up goes though. I am still a fat piece of shit and will be a wizard in a years time. If i can fix being a fat piece of shit I think the last problem will have a chance at being fixed. I missed out on some of the best years of my life. So now I have to make the most out of the years i have left.


If you are a failure and don't want to be a failure anymore, you need to start now. It will take years of working at it. The years of 18-25 are some of the best you have and I wasted mine.

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>>35806169
whatever man, whatever.

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I am woken up...thing is I'm a bit handicap. You faggots have it easy

>>35806215
>You say you want to see more consolation and less "criticism", but what does that mean?
so you don't even know what consolation means? you must not know what i means if you're asking that.

i meant hate on r9k in general and i never even said i wanted to see more of it, i said you don't see it on here.
no i don't want people to just agree with each other, again, you don't know what being consoled means, which i'm not surprised, you've probably never experienced it, further reinforcing my point.

TL;DR: what the fuck are you talking about because you sure as hell don't know.
P.S. get better reading comprehension.

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>>35806064
Maybe you're right. Good luck.

>>35806093
Thanks.

>>35806079
You'll find that virgin is a very broad criterion. There are poor virgins, rich virgins, handsome virgins, ugly virgins, young virgins, old virgins, elliot-tier virgins, chill virgins...

You can't think you'll relate to someone just based on that.

>>35806114
You're just a smug kid. You'll learn, someday.

>>35806192
>18
At this point, unless you're a cripple, it's not hopeless. If you work hard now and stick to whatever path you choose, you'll probably be okay. If you fall for the "it's all over already anyway so i'll just waste away on vidya and anime" you'll have no one to blame but yourself.

>>35806287
What is it, anon?

>>35806230
Was there a particular moment/influence that helped turn you around?

>>35806359
>heh nothin personnel KID
I'm 24 and I've read a billion self improvement threads. It doesn't work when you care more about what you lost than what you can gain.

>>35806359
If it was virgins only, I'd go just to make fun of you guys IRL
You can't escape the Eternal Normie

>>35804078

>implying I wouldn't if I could

ree etc

>>35804247
I'm turning 25 in 3 months, i never had a chance
>No father because mum pushed him away
>Raised by single mother who would hit me, shout at me and show little love or attention
>Went to like 10 different schools as a kid as we moved around
>Final school my high school was the lowest scoring school in the county, like being in a cage with animals

I saw some pictures recently of me when i was 3 or 4, laughing and smiling, looked like the younger version of someone else

The steps to getting a job and getting a mate are pretty clear-cut and basic, if you aren't doing these things at 20, 25, 30 you have to ask yourself why? Perhaps because you don't actually want to?

>>35806399
I had a shift in thinking. It took a long time but I turned my genera apathy and nihilistic views towards life and turned it positive. That it didn't matter that I failed and my life wasn't over because of it. Nothing matters so my past failures do not matter. I just need to pursue what I want. I know a lot of people here have apathetic and nihilistic views and it is really easy to say "nothing matters dude then just go do whatever you want", but it is actually really hard to change your mindset like that. I still slip back into my negative nihilism years later when I am close to a huge milestone. It takes a lot of concentration to pursue what you want in a world of meaninglessness. I think the catalyst of change was seeing what I was inflicting on my mom. She still believed in me even after all the years of wallowing in my self pity. Without the support of my parents I would be dead. Having a supportive family is some of the best luck you can have.

I guess the best way to say it is I burrowed so deep into my depression that my head popped out the other side. I am still in the pit of depression but I can see the light now at least.

If you are 25 and working a minimum wage job you really fucked up. If you aren't at least an assistant manager at your McJob at this point I have no clue what you are doing.
You do not have to go to college to make a passable wage. Put in effort at your shitty job and move up. Friends of mine didn't go to college and just stayed working at fast food. They are now managers in their later 20's. one of them is going through training to be some sort of area manager.
It really is as simple as showing up to work on time and putting in effort.

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>>35806432
Whatever, anon. I just want to share my screencaps and enjoy reading the thoughts of other anons. Also, I'm 28.

>>35806483
What the hell anon that's mean.

>>35806631
I'm sorry, anon. Still wouldn't say it necessarily robs you of an okay future though.

>>35806677
Good point. But you still have to formulate a survival strategy, then. Unless you're lucky enough to have a huge inheritance to sustain yourself or live in a socialist scandinavian paradise where you get 2000 euros for sitting on your ass.

>>35807292
Being a manager is still shit pay unless you work at a nice franchised one in a good white neighborhood.

>>35807358


I know at mcdonalds pay can be anywhere from 30 to 50K. That is decent pay for someone with just a high school diploma. If you can't live a decent life on 30K then you must live in some sort of shit hole like LA.

>>35806064
This is wrong because of the diversity of the people. The hardest thing about raising a child is that all methods of the spectrum (that you described) can be successful on the right person.

Youre right in most cases though (as in your child will probably be a functional adult this way), but with choosing the golden middle way you might gave up the possibility of raising an exceptional individual.

I think in the end it all comes down to two things:
1. What is your purpose with your kid (him/her being happy or being successful, both, or maxing out one of the options)
2. What kind of a person is your kid

#2 is a bitch though.

>>35806093
Agreed, nice job OP.

>>35807292
being a manager makes you a pawn to the company. they can do whatever they want with your schedule.
one day you're closing, the next day you're opening.
also managers have to deal with the customers, have fun with that.

honestly, you're better off going to culinary school and just becoming a chef in some bar & grill or some shit.
at least there you don't have 20 different managers telling you to do random shit and you can always get a job.

>>35807535
The point is to do anything. If you failed at the college route then get a job and move up. There is no excuse to be making minimum wage at 25+. You have to be a real fuck up for that to happen.

Also bullshit happens at every job. Part of learning to play the game is rolling with it until you are the out of touch manager giving shitty orders because some even more out of touch VP is getting on your back.

>>35804137
>go into monk mode
>ironically that means getting a job even though you can't even feel happiness anymore
>you're not even working for yourself towards a goal, just working solely to be a slave to feed the mechanized beast

30 year old wizard here. Don't believe this stupid thread.

I love the things that I'm into even more than I did when I was in my 20s. I run 4 miles every other day. I record music, I cook, I do all kinds of interesting shit.

I look better now than I did 5 years ago. I can now see muscles that I never saw when I was in my 20s. I'm in better shape than I ever was.

I'm just a virgin NEET with no friends because I'm terrified of rejection, that's all.

>>35806230
>The years of 18-25 are some of the best you have
Why do you say that? I'm a miserable piece of shit at 21, and I'm waiting for the day I graduate in three years and start living my life.

>>35807995
if you are a miserable piece of shit at 21 you are doing it wrong. You can fix anything at that point of your life and have a great time.


Unless you are a spaz, then you will be miserable for pretty much forever.

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>>35807728

Yeah it reeks of failed normie, which is fine, but if you never planned on having a family of your own you really don't have to stress about things as much.

>>35807728
Check your NEET privilege.

What is this Monk mode? Does it have to do with meditation?
Right now I'm a wage cuck saving money to be able to do a PhD. Also I'm already past 30.

Am I fucked?

>>35807995
18-25 are probably going to be the easiest years of your adult life and the ones where you still have the most opportunities and physical energy. Do you think things are going to get easier with age? Some do in some ways but mostly no, things get harder. More responsibilities, higher expectations of you, less leeway, less opportunity, aging body, harder to socialize, less people wanting to socialize and those that do have higher demands and expectations.

>waiting for X and start living my life
You should realize that X is never going to come. Whatever thing you think is going to happen that will magically open the floodgates for you to start living, it's not. Some other excuse will replace it. Live or don't live, whether X condition is met doesn't matter, there is always going to be some sub-optimal condition weighing you down.

>>35808320
No it's just a buzzword for working extremely hard at something and dedicating all your time to it. It just means giving yourself entirely to achieving your goal.

>>35808320
How fucking shitty do you have to be to PAY for a PhD? Holy fuck! You are beyond fucked. If you are not getting sponsored to do research and getting a living stipend PLUS free tuition for a PhD you are NOT good enough to get a PhD.

Wow man give up on that dream. For real, i am not trolling you. You should get payed to do research from a company sponsor and your advisor should be helping with that. I was an undergrad research assistant getting $12 an hour to run heat treatments on plate armor for a project for the military. The grad student I was under got around 25K a year in living support and free tuition helping develop new tank armor for the military. Every single grad student in the department was getting paid to get their PhD. Never pay for grad school. NEVER


So I have no clue what discipline you are going into but it is not worth it.

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>>35808473
>Do you think things are going to get easier with age?
Reminds me of this post.

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>>35808073
I'm not happy in my surroundings. I'm angry with myself that I failed to get good grades in highschool, due to me not being strong enough to handle the loneliness, OCD, and depression I had back then. So now I go to Uni in a third world country where I hardly have anything in common with people. I don't think I'm superior to them or anything. On the contrary, most of them are happy sociable people who are content with their lives (at least, that's how they seem to me). It's just that I feel there's too much of a cultural barrier, and I have problems opening up to people in case I might offend their sensibilities or something.

But even if I tough it out, graduate, and live a decent life, I still would have missed so much. I was never surrounded by friends in highschool, I never made my parents proud by getting into a good Uni, I never had a happy Uni life filled with friends and clubs. And THAT'S what's bugging me. I keep concentrating on what I missed out on, on what could have been if only I was a little stronger in the beginning. And no amount of strengthening myself and building for the future will ever make up for the things I've missed out on in the past.

And it fucking hurts. I know I'm a huge faggot for thinking like this at 21, I know I potentially have my whole life ahead of me, I know that there are people out there who lived much harder lives than mine, I know that in comparison to them I should be grateful that I'm at least attending Uni, but I can't stop longing for what might have been.


>Unless you are a spaz, then you will be miserable for pretty much forever.
As you can see from the above, I'm pretty sure that this is correct. I'm so fucked in the head that I'll never be happy.

>>35808320
Monk mode is taking time out of your life (maybe years) to focus on one thing. So monk mode for you would be working day in and day out to get money to afford to go to college. Then you'd go into monk mode again to work on nothing but your phd.

All this motivation is fine and all, but when you don't know where to go or even which way is up, what good is it?

>>35808505
These screencaps are getting increasingly more depressing. The first few had words of encouragement. These last few have just been hopeless.

>>35808505
I'm glad I'm Asian because I stay younger looking for longer. I won't look old until I'm 40. I should probably quit smoking and push that further.

>>35808552
What's the problem you're having?

>>35808505
This may be solved by future cosmetic surgery. Making someone just appear younger isn't as difficult as making them actually younger. Maybe in 15 years or so, you will be able to look whatever age you want to look.

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>>35808565
I'm sorry, anon, as I said it's a mixed bag and I don't have the courage to try and find specific posts. Also I'm deleting them as I post them.

>>35808552
Generally there's only one path in life: find a source of income, find a mate, build a nest, reproduce, provide for the young (this will involve most of your waking hours for most of your life), eventually retire (not anymore), then fuck off to some retirement home and die.
Other paths such as getting married but not having children, being a pick up artist that fucks different women but never commits, or being gay, are all just a bastardization of this main path.
The steps to achieve all those milestones are very clear.
What you do to build the nest and provide for the young, your career, is mostly incidental. It generally won't fulfill you. It doesn't really matter what it is, you just try to pick something that is the most bearable to you and brings in the most money.
The only truly alternative path is a hedonist one, just doing whatever makes you happy. For that, you shouldn't need direction, because you know what makes you most happy, so you just try to go toward that thing.

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Hard work and dedication, anon. Hence, monkmode.

>>35807292
I'm 24 and a web developer. I still am not satisfied with life because
> no gf
> friends

I would rather earn minimum wage and have a fulfilling life with my buddies than being lonely.

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Also self reliance senpai

>>35804078
OP is right

I didn't want to go to college and was wageslaving while living with my parents. I'd mindlessly dick around on the computer, then shuffle off to work so can I lick the boots of my lazy co-workers, go to sleep, wake up, rise and repeat, 6 days a week. I wanted to sudoku. Then one day, after getting called in on my day off (again), I asked myself "Do I want to do this for the rest of my life". And I realized that if I didn't change, I would kill myself.

I quit my job, moved cross-country with my parents, and started my 1st semester of community college at 21, bought some weights, started eating better, ride my bike to class, and try my best to be social. I worry all the time if I made the wrong move, if my degree is a meme, if I won't land a job once I graduate, if I'll just waste my time and money for nothing, and I still sperg out when in social interactions; but, in the end, I know I'm putting in effort to make my life better and I'm happier now than I was a year ago.

tl;dr: The world doesn't change YOU DO. Either sit around and wallow in your own self-pity or step out of your comfort zone do something.

>"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me.." Psalm 23:4

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>>35809263
But that's the thing, anon, you had your epiphany very early. For one reason or another, some of us have that kind of realization much later, and then we have to face the fact that it'll be a race against the clock all day everyday, forever, if we want to have a kinda sorta okay life. It's hard to deal with that fact and even harder to acknowledge it when you fried your brain on escapism, porn, drugs, etc. for years.

>>35804202
I like necrophages better desu senpai

>>35804078
Some of these thing don't sound like they apply exclusively to wizards.
>Im 35. Being a ______ is hard. It loses a lot of it's glamour when you reach your thirties.
>As you age, you begin to lose interest in things once enjoyable.
>You also start to feel your body getting older and you know that someday death will catch up to you.
>I enjoy nothing anymore but I cant get out of this lifestyle now...its too late.
How many people have I just described?

>We are dust.
Hey do you remember the 100 billion people who've died, do you even care?

>This entire thread

Guys, come to /pol/ where the atmosphere is much more positive. We still insult each other, but we all expect it and it's fun. Be proud of being white and laugh at the shitskins.

/pol/ can help you take steps to improving your life.

>35804078
> I'm 35. Being a wizard is hard.

There's truth in this screen cap. Yet, it contains a line that expresses a sentiment that never ceases to astound me:

>It loses a lot of its glamour once you reach your thirties.

There's nothing glamorous about the wizard life. It's shameful, a secret thing one relegates to the darkest places in the desperate hope no one realizes that you are damned to it. The wizard is an appropriate metaphor for the old virgin, but not for the reasons most assume. The necromancer has always been an outcast, a thing born as a man that has no place among humankind. The magician's rites are bloody and filthy. Having no license to touch warm flesh, the sorcerer finds himself grasping dry bones. Not lovely enough to commune with people, he commends himself to graveyards. And the only companions his blasphemies will ever allow him to conjure up are grotesque demons and spiteful devils that hate him no less than his fellow men do. Every one despises a truly ugly man, even the Devil to whom such abominations belong to by default. No doubt that one of Satan's most painful punishments, himself having once been beautiful, was that only repulsive warlocks and witches were desperate enough to call upon him.

>Wake up anon.

Given the option, there is not a single wizard who wouldn't. After all, all of his dreams are nightmares. He would treasure the possibility of, having languished on the sweltering Nightside of the world, at long last breathing the cool air of dawn and watching the sun rise. But there are some things that deserve only nightmares, abominations whose ugliness would stain the beauty of daylight. Perhaps, when all is said and done, that's for the best. If a monster was at long last allowed to rise from the Plutonian sea it spent a lifetime submerged in, normal men and women would have to listen to its screams. It's far better to let things like that continue dreaming and, eventually, drown in silence.

>>35805274
You're full of shit, buddy. I'm making 100k a year, and have friends and a GF.

>tfw 29 wizard apprentice and still get as much enjoyment out of vidya and anime as I did a decade ago

Hopefully it lasts.

>>35809581
I'm black though and not a retard so I'd rather be here than talk to a bunch of deluded Nazis.

>>35809759
Please list your top 5 anime

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>>35809581
>Where the atmosphere is much more postive
Arguing with other nationalities about who's going to be a minority in the own homeland first isn't very positive.
Unless you're talking about the Redditor infested "We did it guys we won!" Trump circlejerk.

>>35809783

Fuck you nigger, did I ask you to come to /pol/???? No. Fucking dindu. You're a dindu. Whites on /r9k/ should come to /pol/ and educate themselves on jewish tricks.

>>35809793
>Dragonball Z
>Yu Gi Oh
>Pokemon
>Ultimate Muscle
>Teen Titans

>>35809819
>the atmosphere is much more positive
>Fuck you nigger
>Fucking dindu
>jewish tricks

>>35805888
You could get friends if you worked at it. A job is a good first step and opens up opportunities that wouldn't be there otherwise.

>>35809842
>No Cory in the House

do you even try?

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I gave up on changing when I was 16. TruBots know they can never be integrated into normal society. We are simply too different, mentally and socially speaking

Failed normie here, just getting some things off my chest, it's the first time I'm talking about this stuff and it probably won't be chronological:

I'm going to become 25 years old in about half a year and I'm lagging behind ALL of my peers that I grew up with in terms of education, career and even my body.
I finished school at 18 with the equivalent of a highschool degree. I've been working some shitty minimum wage jobs after that but stopped and began smoking weed daily (I've been smoking occasionally smoking since I was 14 before). Then I have been NEETing it up until summer 2015 where I got a job as a salesmen trainee. I actually have fun doing my job but all of the poeple I got to know that are also trainees are between the age of 17-21, with one exception that is a few months older than me. Many of those people look way more mature and manly than me.
I'm 5'7 with a narrow build and living in Germany so I'm pretty small and people always guess my age to be 19-20. I was very insecure about it for a very long time. Probably from the age of 17 and until my late 23rd year I stopped being this insecure about my looks because I don't look like a teenager with the facial hair that was finally ready to be worn. My face and hair is actually above average to pretty good which is the only upside about my body.

I cut all contact with all my friends from before becoming a NEET due to the shame of being a NEET twink that looks younger and weaker than all my old friends so I actually spent all my time from 18-23 infront of the pc without getting any life experience and I actually noticed how my social ability detoriated (I was actually pretty popular and liked even by girls before I exiled myself....but I'll talk about girls a little bit later).

>>35809963
The first few weeks after getting a social job where I have to constantly interact with customers and co-workers was very difficult to me but I could actually notice day by day how I regained some of my social ability. 1.5 years later and I'm pretty outspoken, open and people even sometimes tell me how they like that I'm so self confident (while I'm actually riddled by insecurities and self doubts that are eating me up from the inside). I've "resocialized" faster and better than I would have ever hoped I could when I was still a NEET but it's just terrible to check the facebook profiles of people I grew up with and seeing them finish their university degree, get into long term relationships, acquire wealth and in some cases even family. I feel like I've lost every chance to catch up with them and even people half a decade younger than me are doing better in life than me.
The only reason I got a job was because my mother god cancer and I wanted to financially support her (she unfortunately passed away 10 months ago). This was a huge reality check for me but it also made me aware of all the lost time. I'll be 26 when I finish my training, which is an age where almost everyone has at least already finished many of the steps towards a proper career and with clear goals in mind.
I still don't know what I want to do when I finish my retail training. It's a fun job with shit pay but even my teachers(in Germany you visit trade school for 1-2 days of the week while you work the other days at a company) tell me they don't want to see my abilities wasted in the retail sector because I'm more intelligent than all the other retail trainees, just without ambition and lazy as fuck because of my weed addiction.

>>35809963
Damn you kinda sound like me except I'm 21 and a few inches taller than you. It's crazy how quickly all your social skills can vanish just from looking at a screen.

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>>35809507
And? Getting trough life without a mate is still harder.

>>35809581
>/pol/
>positive
Is that supposed to be a joke? /pol/ makes me even more anxious than the saddest /r9k/ post you could find. I feel better now that I stopped going there. You can't save the world when your life is broken. You have to get your house in order first and foremost, then you can give a shit about the world. You can't fix things when you're broken. You can't fight the globalists or whatever if you're a suicidal virgin nerd. That's an escape. Masturbating to nazis is not better than watching anime. In fact it's worse in many ways.

>>35809593
I think that post simply refers to young people romanticizing the wizard life. You'll see many posts here and on wizardchan from 16-25 years old kids that try to cope with their problems by willingly adopting the wiz lifestyle.

>>35809991
>I could actually notice day by day how I regained some of my social ability.

People on here forget that you have to actually train this up. I'm socially awkward as shit but since i'm going into law I have to interact with clients and colleagues, so i've been doing shadowing and citizens' advice work to expose myself to normies and train myself to be able to interact better with them. It's slowly making me feel better since i'm becoming increasingly able to unclutter my thoughts and get them out simply to other people instead of just wallowing in my brain and confusing me.

I will tell you now though, since you and many other people in this thread seem worried about it. At 25-26 many people nowadays are still living with their parents, are in training or education etc. You need to stop assuming that everybody is out there several rungs up the career ladder. There is a massive glut of middle aged mid-level managers and workers who have yet to die off blocking those people from moving up in their respective fields. Just like people are remaining manchildren into their mid-20s, most people in the west have not immersed themselves into their career until the latter part of their 20s.

Level 27 here. I stopped caring about playing video games and watching anime/cartoons for the most part, but those got replaced by other, more constructive interests.

>>35809991
I think I should mention that I'm still living at home (now with only my dad), have no car or drivers license, no meaningful savings and I'm a kissless virgin. Girls actually really liked me before all my peers began maturing a lot faster than me. I've actually had lots of girls interested in me before I became a NEET but I was too scared to initiate anything.
Fuck me, writing this made me feel pretty bad and I won't even bother proof reading this.

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>>35804744
>life doesn't hand you shit, you take it
lol

>>35804078
Because Wizards do it through choice....

>>35809581
>>35809819
>I just discovered /pol/ and I'm now an ebin member of le secret nazi club come join me guys!

>>35808503
To be fair, I got a PhD and I had to pay for the first year I was in my Masters program, because they weren't giving out TAships to everyone yet. The other five years I was paid, though (chump change and free tuition, like you said). But yeah, generally speaking you're right.

Honestly, I would not advise getting PhD for the average robot. Academia is a very specific pursuit and it probably is not right for these people.

>>35804078
um, i'm just doing what i want

>>35808921
As a web developer you have more means to make friends than a minimum wagie, though. Use your cash to improve your situation. Go out and meet people; seek therapy for your social problems.

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>>35809412
>it'll be a race against the clock all day everyday, forever

Says who? A bunch of anonymous autists on an anime imageboard? You have to understand something: The world wants you to fail. People want to see you do good, but not better than them. Shit is going south? Get fucking angry, not melodramatic. Yes it feels so good to whine on 4chan about how hard your life is, to project your sorrows on other factors. But that doesn't lead you anywhere. Start picturing all those times you failed, all those people who kicked you while your were down, all the girls who lead you on just to stroke their egos. Go to the mirror and look at yourself. You're still alive now, in spite of them. All the shit you've got thrown at you, all the times you've been stabbed in the back, and you're still here.

It literally is YOU against the world. The only thing that matters in the end is yourself. Take a risk, try again. If it doesn't work, so what? You wanted to kill yourself anyways so what's the difference? Or you could keep doing the same thing over and over again until your waifu knocks on the frontdoor one morning and carries you off to a better life of worry-free ecstasy and relaxation (which will never happen). Your choice

>>35805240
>Society teaches you that if you have a career and education, everything else will just fall into place.

yep and it's the biggest crock of shit ever, too, speaking from firsthand knowledge

>>35809907
Nice excuse, buddy. Amusing that you are still as retarded now as you were at 16.

>>35805778
that's objectively not true and I wish faggots would stop spamming that. The military would be a great thing for a lot of this fucking board.
>t. army faggot

>>35810058
>And?
That these are problems anyone can have so you guys are gonna have to do more than normify yourselves if you wanna be happy.
>Getting trough life without a mate is still harder.
Doesn't it depend on the mate? It could just as easily make your life more difficult.

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>>35809907
i knew i was never going to be normal the second i interacted with anyone who wasn't my mother.

>>35810155
cool bullshit meme, buddy

>>35810384
t. failed normies

and what will putting dick in vagina do? hmm? make everything better? what will gains do? what will friends do? keep you company? i am content with my lifestyle its the people around me who jab my ribs telling me i suck. In the end we all end up alone.

>>35810447
If you're happy the way you are, that's good for you. I was pretty miserable until I got friends, a GF, and a fulfilling occupation.

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>>35810433
Nice post, friend
Have a good weekend ^.<~

>>35810155
normies blown out of the water scrambling to regroup

>>35804078
>Wake up anon. It's not healthy.
so what? Get the fuck out, normalfag

>>35810519
see, now that is a much better meme
it's more fun to share goofy pictures of your buddies pepe and wojak than it is to pretend like you are a failure through no fault or action of your own and that self-improvement is impossible

>>35810384

>retarded

I don't expect normalfags to understand. How much mind do you pay to the average homeless person sleeping under a bridge? He was a person, maybe a college student or a Wagefriend Would you say to him

"dude just work hard xddd"


While we may believe our lives are under our control, much of what happens to us is due to luck. Mental illness, Child and substance abuse and simple autism can all conspire to put you in a corner.

Some of us are just unlucky

>>35809907

I've made attempts at being social and doing things I might enjoy but the social anxiety and fear of being around others is way too much. At this point I'm a recluse who only ventures out to the shops as and when I need to and sometimes for nightwalks.

I'm 30 and I've given up any chance of changing. I just try to take enjoyment out of the few things I can put up with doing before boredom sets in.

>>35810602
you're not a homeless person sleeping under a bridge. you're a coddled loser playing video games and watching anime, and making excuses for why getting yourself out of your hole is impossible.

>>35810602
the average homeless person is an annoying, lazy faggot
at least in my city

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>>35810596
>pretend like you are a failure through no fault or action of your own and that self-improvement is impossible
Nice strawman pal. 10 outta 10 points.
Since you like the goofy pictures, here's another. It's yours to keep

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>>35810642

Yes, because I said I was a homeless person and not just using Homelessness as an example

Jesus you normies are dense.

"just" the word normies use to cover up the hard, nearly insurmountable obstacle of a situation.

>>35810655
not a strawman, just commenting on that first meme you posted which literally indicates that success is impossible for you
also, i REALLY like that picture

>>35810682
the point is that your situation is not as dire or hopeless, dense boy

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>>35810309
I guess that's a more productive mindset. A bit sociopathic though.

>>35810401
Sure, being a normie isn't the end, it's the beginning. Or something. I don't know.

>Doesn't it depend on the mate? It could just as easily make your life more difficult.
Probably.

>>35810782
>You should want to sacrifice and work hard

This is bullshit from a bootlicking goy who firmly accepts his place in life propping up the elites and lies to himself that he enjoys it. Sad!

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>>35810840
That's a strawman though. He didn't say you had to be a slave. He just reminds you that you have to work to achieve things. Want to learn japanese? You have to sit and learn, train, for hours everyday, for months. Time that you won't be spending fapping or watching anime or playing vidya and other instant gratification options.

You sacrifice instant gratification for success. Or you don't. The path of least resistance leads you straight to hell tough.

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>>35810712

>the point is that your situation is not as dire or hopeless

It's fascinating to me how normies can somehow know things about people they've never met. Even what we think of as private thoughts like dreams, goals, standards or perspectives shrink under the PsychoAnalytic power of your average normalfag shitposters.

I don't know why you aren't out there predicting the stock market. Just think of the money you could make.

>>35810954
>You should want to sacrifice
>Do you want to die without having struggled

Yeah I'm sure (((they))) sacrifice everything like uhhhh, well I can't think of any examples but I'm sure being a trustfund baby or land owning aristocrat are a real struggle and I should try to emulate that by working a back breaking job for Mr Schlomo and work that overtime for free because muh sacrifices

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i'm 40 and still kicking it. i've been on 4chan since 2005. i was here when i was 28 lol.

i think moot is a total dick who sold us out.

>>35810840
When's the last time anything great happened from you sitting on your ass and being passive? I'm going through my whole life with that same question in mind and I can't find one thing that came to me when I was comfortable and waiting.

>>35811020
Got an internet gf
Had fun playing vidya
Watched a lot of movies and read a lot of books that moved me so much I will remember them for life

What good ever happened to me at work? I got my monthly salary that I have to earn or I will die? My boss puts extra responsibilities on us all for no reward or thanks? Wow amazing #powerful #sacrifices

>>35810183

Shut the fuck up kike, white robots should not be in an endless circle of despair.

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>>35810954
>You have to sit and learn, train, for hours everyday, for months
Or... y'know... be born and raised in Japan
And there you have it really. For some learning a certain language will take a lot of effort and work but for others its something given to them parenting and society. But the same can be said about anything: social skills, talents, hobbies, senses of humor and styles of dress, etc.

So are you really so surprised no one wants to compete with people who have had everything handed to them on a silver platter and still go on and on about all their hard work? And how everyone else has to sacrifice and work hard to meet their standards when they never have? Most people don't learn another language outside of adolescence. Why do you expect people to do anything else after that small window in their life either?

Nope, people do what they're told. You didn't work hard in school or at your job. You just did what you were told and taught better than anyone. Telling everyone else to just "work on themselves" when it's really been everyone else, parents, teachers, professors and employers working on /you/ is so condescending.

In summary, see >>35810155

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When I turned 18 I panicked because I was still a virgin and tried to hit on girls in my school. I had no idea what I was doing and made a fool out of myself.

After I graduated I spent a year doing nothing. I went to college simply in order to have something to do and to keep my parents off my back.

I graduated and wasted some more time doing nothing. I returned to do a master's degree because I still had nothing to do.

My mother overdosed in the first year of my master's degree. I took some time out of education and saw a therapist. I discovered I have issues much bigger than being an asocial virgin.

Completed my master's degree with first class honours at age 25. I am now 26. I am 27 next month. Time is moving faster. I still have no girlfriend. I still have no social life.

I think I'll get a doctorate next.

>>35810964
Give me a break. You are shitposting on 4chan; it's pretty safe to assume you're better off than a homeless man under a bridge.

>>35811171
>So are you really so surprised no one wants to compete with people who have had everything handed to them on a silver platter and still go on and on about all their hard work?
/r9k/'s problem is that we think we should all be equal. We're mad because we don't all start at the same place in life and we don't all have the same opportunities. We draw the short straw and think "what's the point?"

Idk what to tell you. Some people are born with advantages, some people are born with disadvantages and some people are born with neither (which you could consider an advantage) but if you're one of those disadvantaged people, you have to put in extra work. It's not fair when some people get to skate through life but wtf you gonna do? You have the potential to get on their level but since you have to work for it, you're just gonna give up?

>>35811006
do you ever get tired of posting these same dumb memes over and over again like a mantra?

>>35811331
>yes mr goldberg please let me work another 20 hours for free, i know i'll get that big break one day if i just keep sacrificing my life

Strange how it's only the average joe that needs to make sacrifices and work extra hard, isnt it?

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>it's another shills tell anons to stay in their rooms and not try anything thread
>it's another shills telling people to not exercise thread
>it's another shills wanting you to stare at a wall in your room and not do nothing thread
fuck outta here, do what ever the fuk you want to do. these shills are real and they're trying to make you do nothing.

>>35811357
Not playing the game is not an option for most people you fucking bum. Instead of bitching on the Internet supported by NEETbux and your parents grudging support, we have to work to pay our bills and mortgages like functional adults. Don't even give me that "Da joos are pushing home ownership" meme. You don't know the first thing about finance; you probably couldn't even describe to me how to file tax returns. Just shut the fuck up and stop posting this dumb Shekelstein meme because no one worth a shit thinks you're some deep philosopher in a noble struggle against the system. You're a leech and that's worse than being a thief because at least a thief works for his swag.

>>35811590
>t. bitter wagie ragie

21 KV here, the lonely life is starting to get to me. I'm successful in life as doing good in school, having a good job, a car and some spare money. It seems i went into the monk mode somewhere and lost all my friends (probably in high school, i was working whole summers). Now i don't have friends to go out with (except for one or two). Not having a gf is fucking me up the most, partially because i feel lonely and partially because of social pressure (when will you get a gf anon?). It seems weird going out alone. I've been thinking about suicide for about a year, but swore not to do it on the new years eve. From educational of financial viewpoint i'm doing much better than all my previous colleagues. On the other hand, a lot of them happily live their small lives with their gfs.

>>35806677
Can you please tell me these "steps"?

>>35811850
Don't worry famalam, one or two friends are all you really need.

>>35811893
Job:
>get a GED if you don't have a high school diploma, look into community college if you do
>apply to a shitload of minimum wage jobs to build some experience and capital while you either work on climbing the ladder at that job or building skills for an unrelated job

GF:
>get a job
>have a long-term career plan that you're pursuing
>eat healthy, work out
>build social skills and a social circle: talk to people at your job, join clubs at your school or in your area, pursue drugs and/or therapy if necessary for serious psychological issues
>meet women through your friends and ask them out

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Just wanna say thanks to OP for his thread and keeping in touch.

I don't agree with some of the stuff you say OP but I respect your will to at least motivate some of us.

The thing I want to do next is quit the internet. I feel like 4chan is holding me back. When I first started coming here 4-5 years ago, it was extremely fun. The first couple of years I learned a lot and had fun posting, that's when I saved most of my 4chan folder. I was young and full of life. Now here I am, just depressed and lacking something deep down inside. I don't come to 4chan anymore to funpost or even learn anything, besides maybe read a thread like this and ponder it. But that's not really fun, it's self-reflecting and torment.

Maybe I have just matured very quickly, but I remember reading /25+ over/ generals years ago and wondering if I would ever end up like them, I never came to their threads to mock or inflate my ego or even post, but to read their threads and learn something. Yet it feels like I could have been any one of the posters in those threads now.

I have quit porn, masturbation, drugs, etc. but 4chan is the final addiction that I have to quit. I just need to read some more motivational posts from other anons before I make the final justification. I'm weird like that for some reason. But also if I gave up internet, I'd be saving $70/mo too. I already have a phone, what do I need premium internet for? I don't even do anything on the computer besides post here. Everything else I do on the computer, like listen to music or watch videos, I also do on my phone. At most, I use my computer for my 4chan folder, which I haven't saved much of anything in for 3 years now. I just think that if I didn't have 4chan for escapism, I could force myself outside and finally meet friends or even have a girlfriend. Which I hate saying that because I know how much it used to, and still kind of does, makes me mad - that I appear as smug or a normalfag. But in the end, I just don't know

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I'd rather stay the way I am, loneliness is so ingrained into me that becoming more social would change who I am. I'd rather stick to the sinking boat, achieve some moderate academic success then commit suicide while I'm still ahead

>>35811102
I am a white robot, and I've spent years on /pol/ as well. Ironically I've started to feel better ever since I stopped going there, even when I still spend time here. All I did was waste time, usually arguing with other white people.
You can call me a cuck, a kike, whatever, it won't make a difference to me. I'm doing more to better myself now that I was back then, and that's what you want isn't it?

>>35811893
Step 1 realize that all things you want will be the result of an exchange. Take a job. You are providing some value or service to somebody and they compensate you for it. Ask yourself what value or service you can, and are willing to, provide. If the answer is none, then think a little harder, or go out and learn some skill that will add value. Then, approach people who need that service or value and explain to them why you should be the one to provide said service to them for compensation. If you try one place and it doesn't work, try another 10 places. If you try 10 places, then refine the way you are marketing yourself, and try another 10 places. Try to exaggerate your sales pitch of yourself if necessary, be confident and explain what value you can add even if you're not sure it's true. Eventually you will get a job, then you repeat this process to get a better job for better compensation.

With women it is the same. They have a resource (their body or companionship) that you want access to. You need to provide value to them that is worth them compensating you with their body and companionship. Identify what that value is, are you a good provider, are you an entertaining person to be around, do you have a big dick? If none of these, can you develop one? Then you go out and approach women and try to sell yourself to them until one decides it is a good deal for her and she accepts to become your mate in exchange for what you offer.

You have to have something to offer, or be able to pretend like you do and market yourself, then others will give you things that you want in exchange. You also have to leave your house and approach people. It's really very simple, but people make it out to be hard because they want things given to them for nothing.

>>35812042
why the fuck would you quit 4chan?

are you crazy?

>>35812328
Of course you feel better. Hate isn't good for you.

>>35804078
I'm doing mankind a service by not reproducing. I'm not cut out for the modern world. It's clear that the species needs to evolve to deal with the changes in society and people like me should not keep passing on their genes because it will only slow the evolution to the nu-males.

>>35812455
Hate is a good fuel, don't fall for the memes

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>>35805550
>every day at break time I sit there look at these people who have been working in this same factory for 25+ years

So you want to jump from job to job?
Do you think doctors are any happier with their jobs? Dentists? Lawyers? People working in finance?

Well heres a fun fact for you. These are the most suicidal professions.

All jobs are boring, all jobs suck and all jobs are monotone. That's why you get paid to fucking do it.

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>>35812387
I achieve nothing valuable by spending my time here. That is the sad truth many of us will come to face later on. If I cut 4chan out of my life, something will have to fill that void and I hope that it will be me attempting to at least make friends or find a woman. But when I'm here for the entire time after I leave my retail job, I am doing nothing to improve my situation. Like I said this used to be fun even, but now I do nothing here besides shitpost and keep up to date with happenings. I am more interested in quitting computers than 4chan as a whole, I can use my phone to do everything I do on my PC as all I do is browse. I don't play any vidya. I really just need to find something to fill in the time that I use to post bullshit here. I have learned a very lot here and will always know of this place but it has been too long in my humble opinion

I tried getting fit.. I tried my hardest to change my life for the better getting an electrican job. Then I Bulged a disc because of some drunk driving prick. That happened last November and I'm still angry. I'm not even sad anymore I want to find that drunk driver and put a gun in his mouth and blow his brains out. I FUCKING WANT TO KILL HIM. THIS PAIN IS UNBEARBLEU AND I ALREADY LOST MY JOB AND MY HOME.

>>35812565
>All jobs are boring, all jobs suck and all jobs are monotone
nope

>That's why you get paid to fucking do it
also wrong - you get paid because you're providing value to someone else

>>35812713
I loved my electrician apprenticeship. Jobs are not suppose to be fun is a stupid concept. >>35812713

>>35812585
Your phone can be just as bad, maybe even worse, than a computer anon. Make sure there's no internet on your phone.

>>35812742
It's a meme started by a bunch of miserable failures who either gave up on their dreams or don't realize that there's something better out there. M

>>35811301
Yes, I don't want to be with them

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>>35813133
Not really because I don't have anything to do on my phone besides browse the Internet. I don't type fast enough on a phone to use it as often to post on 4chan anyway. I might reply to a few threads now and then but besides that my phone usage of the internet is pretty tame. When I get on the computer though my mind wanders and I get sucked into the abyss for hours at a time until it is finally time to get off and go to bed for work the next early morning. The cycle repeats itself day after day and I beat myself up mentally wondering why and why I am so miserable and hate my life so much, while also not realizing that I am doing nothing at all to fix the situation, I just continue escaping into the Internet to kill time until it eventually kills me. If I don't quit 4chan I will continue suffering miserably. I used to come here to feel verified by my life of sadness and loneliness but I realize now that that isn't a joke and it's just too close to the bone. I realize how valuable time is now and cannot keep wasting it.

I wish the best absolute for any anons trying to escape this place and improve their lives. My best wishes are upon any of you.

While I agree that living a life based around the consumption of goods and services without any effort spent in the production of the same is ultimately unfulfilling, I do not think the answer is "well just produce things!" to justify the former focus of consumption. You are still undermining a huge facet of what it means to be a human being by completely ignoring the gifts of will, complex emotion, and rationality bestowed upon you. The goal in my mind should be to transcend and to explore all that a sentient lifeform can possibly explore.

As a poster said earlier, a lot of science and technology is straight magic.

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>>35812042
Good luck. Never listen to the "moderation moderation blahblah balance moderation a little bit of everything moderation" crowd. Your instinct tells you you need to leave 4chan, you know you have to, follow your instinct.

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>This entire thread
fuck lads I am turning 24 next month
how did it happen

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>>35814436
Who cares how it did happen. Work on correcting your trajectory now.

>>35811301
>You have the potential to get on their level

Nope, wrong.

>>35805474
What do you consider successful? What amount of money does someone need to make specifically?

>>35804078
>%99.99 of the human experience is sex


nigger detected

>>35815036
lazy strawman, it says more about you than him

>>35815250
It's not just about sex, you fucking idiot.

>>35809581
>Guys, come to /pol/ where the atmosphere is much more positive. We still insult each other, but we all expect it and it's fun. Be proud of being white and laugh at the shitskins.
>/pol/ can help you take steps to improving your life.
Yeah not white, you nazi wannabe teen.

I converted my desk into a TV stand to play Mass Effect this weekend. After reading this thread I turned it back into a desk.

>>35812585
You need to have a medium- to long-term goal to work towards. That gnawing, empty anxiety that you feel in your free time is due to the lack of such a thing to dedicate yourself to.

>>35804507
>I would if I could
How many times have you tried to improve your life by stepping outside of your comfort zone last year? Be honest.

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OP here, I'm going to stop now, but you get my point. Deep down you know what you have to do. There's nothing more to add, really.

Take action now. Or regret it later. Who cares, after all, it's your goddamn life.

Bye.

>Inb4 "see you tomorrow"
Nah. I quit smoking cold turkey in 2015. Quit vidya before that. I'm quitting 4chan (and reddit and other blackholes that suck the life out of you).

>>35816461
>implying my single mother isn't dumb as a brick

fuck off

>>35804078
I was fucking born unhealthy nothing hurts and nothing helps, so I don't fucking care anymore :)

>>35816461
What if I don't want to get better? Deep down I hate myself and I enjoy going through this spiral of decadence

>>35816461
Deep down you know what you have to do


I don't have to do shit faggot.

>>35817526
What you have to do is learn how to greentext faggot

>>35804744
>Don't measure your self-worth in women
Not being able to get women is a very strong, salient signal of your worth as a man. There's no getting around that. It's why virgins are laughed at and why people automatically assume you're an asshole if you ask why girls don't like you.

>"What skills can I contribute to society, am I doing something that will contribute something valuble to society etc"

Why is measuring your self-worth by what you 'contribute to society' any better? I do not want to be society's workhorse, especially if society doesn't respect me in any other respect than how much money I produce for them. And that's what the failure with women represents... I lack social status and value, but I'm still supposed to try as hard as I can to give things to 'society'. No thank you

>>35810386
Can confirm. Navy Fag Here, I'm an ET (electronic technician). You've got your fair share of chads and robots here.

>>35804078
Yeah, 99% (more likely mid 90s) of the human experience can't be experienced by robots, but every experience has to be lived, or else how would I/we grow?

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>>35804078
>If you are able to live a normal life, do so. Swallow your pride and get out there.

I know I'm going to get shit for this but I'm going to say it regardless. One of our problems is pride. I understand the hatred for normies but this mindset that we're somehow superior to them and the world is holding a lot of us back. It'll slowly devour you from the inside, and turn you into something ugly. Seriously.

One of the things I've noticed on this board (and I'm not saying EVERYONE is guilty of this) is people unironicaly joke about becoming a wizard.
>2 more years till WIZARD and get muh powers lul kek xDDD!
The life of a wizard isn't something to joke about. I understand how hard some of our situations are, but I really hope you guys are doing everything in your power to improve your situations and avoid a life of wizardry, because it's a rough down hill ride from there, I know I am. I'll probably never be normal, I'll never be the best socializer. Eye contact will always be awkward for me and I'll always be self conscious of the way I walk, but I'm going to work hard to come very close to it.

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>>35816461
All of 4chan isn't a life sucking black hole, OP. There are some great boards on here full of inspiration and motivation. But as far as /r9k/ goes, fucking run. Get the hell out of here man, run as far as you can from this place and start living. I don't care how bad your situation is, nothing good will come of self loathing on a forum board with other unmotivated self hating faggots. I wish you the best of luck in life, Original Poster. Godspeed.