Would we be less depressed if we lived like this?

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>chadgar still gets all the bitches in this timeline

we'd be too busy worrying about food and taking care of shit to be depressed

>>35652426
No, we'd still be depressed. We'd just die.

I would guess that we wouldn't have much time to be depressed.

>>35652426
Those fucking savages wiped out the megafauna. I would be less depressed if I could time-travel back then, because I'd wipe all the filthy human beasts out before they ruined the planet.

>>35652426
Probably not depressed, just dead. There were supposedly anywhere from 5-30 adult women for every adult male in those days. If you survived you'd be a chad, if not, you'd be kill.

Not really. Life would've been much simpler, and we'd all probably would've grown up with strong role models directly involved in our lives in order to mold us into a productive member of a tribe, giving us a sense of purpose, belonging, and community. Also we would've been too busy to worry about being depressed

>>35653795
It makes me think of the phrase "It takes a village to raise a child"

Kids today are mainly raised solely by 2 parents, unless you have a extended family on good terms. But those 2 parents usually end up being idiots and doing no good, at least in my case.

Now our "role models" are celebrities and people in media. We have no one to look up to. And if we do, with social media, theres always someone "better" and you think you can never achieve greatness like them.

Society is fucked.

>>35652426
Whenever I have something wrong with my body I look up herbs and imagine being in the witcher and walking around licking them and I really wanna start farming my own food and weed

>>35653791
>5-30 adult women for every adult male

Those numbers don't check out at all. There would be effectively only 1 or 2 males doing ALL the work to support a shit ton of women and children.

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>>35652426
>R9K lives in the stone ages

Pic related and original

>>35653874
>And if we do, with social media, theres always someone "better" and you think you can never achieve greatness like them.

Life becomes a lot more bearable once you realize some people are just going to be better than you at some things, and hell, some people will be better than you at EVERY thing. Stop judging yourself by other's success and work on you.

does it bother anyone that nearly every way of dieing sucks hardcore? i mean seriously why do people even have kids? it disgusts me to think of my parents fucking. the deal with suicide though is how you can fail at it like if you used a gun you might end up paralyzed. and even if you wanna not exist killing yourself is actually hard to convince yourself to do. i mean i dont wanna kill myself or anything but at the same time i dont wanna go senile one day or die from a disease.

how does one get over the fear of failing at suicide and not caring what their family will think? after my grandpa died when i was 10 i had trouble dealing with that but now if anyone in my family died i dont think it would really even affect me much at all and im not being edgy

i dont wanna die or anything but at the same time does this bother anyone how most deaths are brutal?

being depressed is a pretty modern-era concept desu. If you were depressed back then you'd just die.
It seems strange to say, but we have the privilege to be depressed because we live in the modern age.

What's ironic is that it sometimes just ends up killing you anyway.

>>35652426
No. We'd the first ones they bash in the head with a club.

>>35653991
>does this bother anyone how most deaths are brutal

Not really because when it happens to me I'd be dead.

>>35652426
Australian aboriginals have the highest Suicide rates of any racial group. They're pretty primitive. Farmers are the closest thing we have to that lifestyle. They kill themselves more than anyone. The happy savage meme is retarded

>>35653998
This is literally not true. Depression was pretty common in the past. People would kill themselves if they thought a war wad coming

>>35653998
>we have the privilege to be depressed
made me think

>>35654076
Farmers are the complete opposite of hunter gatherers, and abos aren't even fucking human so that point is invalid

>>35653991
depends on a number of things, one being what your beliefs are of the afterlife I guess.

My thoughts are that you're dead and it won't matter anyway because you're fucking dead.
Yeah your family may be sad, but you won't be around to witness it, so will they really be sad?

Will you even have a concept of what "sad" is, in your afterlife?
How will you know if they are? How would you be able to tell? Would you even care, if you found out?
With that said, you probably shouldn't kill yourself.
Because if you aren't religious, you have no idea for certain what it's going to be like, and if you are religious, it's most likely a sin in whatever religion you're a part of.

why do people always bring up the die earlier meme?

1. youre on a board where everyone is all sad and depressed and talks about suicide daily
2. if you grew up in that era it would be normal to expect death early
3. you were only exposed to nature, nothing industrial so you lived a young and healthy life instead of a long and strung out life we live now popping pills everyday to keep kicking
4, you started life early when you were young, you were already in the real world and experiencing and witnessing what adults do on the daily

Does anyone else feel like modern life is just a constant fight to surperss our barbaric impulses? We are all so stressed and anxious all the time and because I feel like all day we struggle to hold back our true emotions and impulses.

Waking up early sucks, the work sucks, the disconnected social interactions suck....

>>35654240
Exactly, I tell people we try to pretend we're not animals when we're just over evolved monkeys and they look at me like I'm crazy, then continue to feel like shit and wonder why.

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>>35654076
>Australian aboriginals have the highest Suicide rates of any racial group
Ausfag here its because they got fucking raped by modernity. Generations of retards have tried meddling with them, now we're meddling with them to show how sorry we are for meddling with them. Alcoholism for one is a massive issue and that was the hwhite mans fault.

>>35652426
Primitive life is pretty difficult but it also gets romanticised. For starters if you've ever been camping you'll know how long it takes to do anything. Most of your day is spent trying to prepare for the next day. However this differs from spending 8AM to 6PM on Microsoft Excel every day of you life for $19 an hour. In Maslow's hierarchy the only needs fulfilled today are safety and physical needs. We're fat and most people will never get into a fight in their lives. However, belonging, esteem and self actualisation in particular are things modernity can't offer you. Now if your goal in life is to work a white collar job and buy a lot of shit then yeah you probably be ok. But if your values don't have a dollar value then sorry champ you just have to suck it up. In the pre-modern world life was often brutal and cruel but there were layers of meaning and belonging which we've long, long lost. Totally up to you, do you want to have comfy bed to wake up in the morning or do you want to *want* to wake up in the morning?

>>35654148
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

Of the countries with the highest suicide rate 3 are African. Why do African countries have massively higher suicide rates?

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

This is the source of ~80% of your problems

>>35654076
i read something that suggested that when a primitive (hunter gatherer or very limited farming) group begins to engage with more advanced groups, they quickly start to develop the same mental and physical diseases associated with the modern groups. aboriginals are probably not a good example because they do not live an untainted lifestyle.

>>35654340

I understand it gets romanticised. What's sad is that if I had the opportunity to live a nomadic or Amish lifestyle i would say hell no. I love my computers too much. im addicted, I need it now.

>>35654457
And thats why >>35654389 is basically right cause sure get fucking owned by infection sucks but your entire existence today is tied to a box that makes noises and lights. Everyone on r9k is really testament to the failure of modernity. After you have maximum comforts then what?

>>35654340
>In the pre-modern world life was often brutal and cruel but there were layers of meaning and belonging which we've long, long lost.

It feels like living in primitive ways really increases the spiritual life of people. They have deep spiritual beliefs and feelings about the world, as if everything holds so much importance. The most basic things like the weather cycle and animals were part of some spiritual mythology system

>Totally up to you, do you want to have comfy bed to wake up in the morning or do you want to *want* to wake up in the morning?


This actually makes me ponder very hard. I can't remember the last time I woke up in the morning, and actually felt excited to start the day. And most people could probably say the same. What does it say about us if waking up is often the worst part of our day

Less depressed? A guarentee. Miserable in incalculable other ways? Definitely.

>no modern dentistry
>no modern hygiene
>no A/C no central heating
>tfw Chadoric Thundocroix from the tribe across the river raids your village and rapes your mother, sister, cousin and aunt after he guts with a barbed knife and you bleed out like a stuck pig

Maybe the "comfy" meme is a way to recapture this feeling...

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>>35654527
>This actually makes me ponder very hard. I can't remember the last time I woke up in the morning, and actually felt excited to start the day. And most people could probably say the same. What does it say about us if waking up is often the worst part of our day
Think about the life of the average wagie.
>Wake up at 6:30-7AM
>Still tired cause went to bed too late
>Rush to get ready to go to work
>Get there barely in time at 8:25
>Spend all day hunched over my shitty office computer
>Can't be fucked to pack lunch so buy some MSG laden corn byproduct mush food from a fast food place down the road
>Sit through traffic burning fuel as I go
>Have a shitty microwaved meal
>Gotta get an earlier nights sleep so I'm not tired
>Go to bed
>Wake up
>Its 7AM time for work
People have always existed quite often solely to maintain their existence. The difference is today many people really grapple with the question why would they want to do that? The problem isn't work so much as it is the nature of work. Work needs to be a fulfilling, lifetime commitment with an associated community to really be enjoyable. Not something you do to keep the lights on

>>35652426
My parents bred at 38. That wouldn't happen back then. Fucking stupid assholes, my parents.

>>35653790
this. megafauna were based af. I would chop off my arm just to see one.

>>35654531
It would be pretty miserable even if we weren't "sad". We'd be pissed off or delusional. That's pretty much the same

>>35652426

You wouldn't have time to be depressed, so probably, yeah. You'd also be full of a lot of convenient fictions about the nature of the universe that no longer seem plausible to the kind of person who can spend his free time posting on /r9k/.

Now, would it be a good idea for all of us to leave the cities, throw a match over our collective shoulder and return to the land? Not at all.

The good things about that sort of life are things we can pluck out and reintroduce to our current lives without giving up all the other things that millennia of technological, philosophical and societal advancement have slowly built for us. It's a pretty simplistic and nigh superstitious outlook that thinks we could only possibly get whatever magic we imagine there was to the neolithic life by slavishly recreating every single aspect of it.

I'd bet, for instance, that what you're longing for the most when you look at that picture is a strong social group. That guy in the middle with his dog and his tools didn't have to earn that crowd of 150-200 allies, he became part of it when he was born to that tribe, and won't leave it except by the gravest of sins. The people in that picture would care for him if he got sick or injured without a single bit of hesitation, simply because they know he would do it for them, and probably has. He doesn't have to network or play games to keep them, they're just there for him as he is for them. The profound knowledge of having friends who would stand by you no matter what must seem nigh pornographic to the alienated browsers of 4chan.

But you don't have to be a hunter-gatherer to have a strong social group like this. We only abandoned these kinds of groups completely with the introduction of the nuclear family model, and could easily return by just changing our minds. Maybe make living in a commune type arrangement mainstream.

Or we can sit around futilely wishing we lived somewhere else.

we'd probably have died in childhood. I was sickly and definitely would have died several times if not for modern medicine.

>tfw /r9k/ will never buy a small village and live in a comfy co-op growing food together and shitposting on the internet

>>35654986
>tfw ywn die as an infant

why live?

>>35654961
>I'd bet, for instance, that what you're longing for the most when you look at that picture is a strong social group. That guy in the middle with his dog and his tools didn't have to earn that crowd of 150-200 allies, he became part of it when he was born to that tribe, and won't leave it except by the gravest of sins. The people in that picture would care for him if he got sick or injured without a single bit of hesitation, simply because they know he would do it for them, and probably has. He doesn't have to network or play games to keep them, they're just there for him as he is for them. The profound knowledge of having friends who would stand by you no matter what must seem nigh pornographic to the alienated browsers of 4chan.

This hit me really hard.

>>35654961

I feel like we all want some communal type of living. With internet access of course.

>>35654961
how could communal living work for a modern, industrial, capitalist nation? the driving force behind this type of lifestyle is the idea that you can earn more and be "better" than your neighbors. when competition drives a society, both economically and socially, then truly communal living is nearly impossible.

this would require massive reworking of societal values and possibly some "convincing" people what is best for them by force. the changes required would be on a similar scale to the solution of giving up modern comforts, which would automatically NECESSITATE these changes in value. it seems to me that your idea is about equally as plausible and equally as futile as the idea of living in a preindustrial, huntergatherer type of society.

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>>35655144
>possibly some "convincing" people what is best for them by force

Not really. If there's anything we're learning from psychology and neurology it's that pretty much everyone wants to belong to something, the only exceptions being the stray sociopath. So it really shouldn't take much convincing to get people to climb down from their lonely towers and re-engage in local, social living. They just need to see that it can happen. By the same token, you won't have to force anyone; most people will join of their own free will and those who don't can be safely left to their own devices, to look after themselves the way they want to.

It's certainly true that it would require giving up certain preconceptions and nagging fears we've been taught since infancy, but again, this longing is common to all of us. All we need is a few other people in our lives to say "You know what, I don't want to compete either, I just want to be together with you" to feel like it's the most right and natural thing, and all the rest of the world be damned.

And I won't double-down on communes either, I can't say I'm sure that's the right way to reintroduce strong social cohesion into our world. There's other options, like changing the apartment building for the boarding house, which used to be an American institution; http://www.brynmawr.edu/cities/archx/05-600/proj/p2/aca/what_is_a_boarding_house.htm

At the very least, we can say with strong conviction that loneliness and the loss of social cohesion has been bad for us as a whole, and needs resolving in some manner, no matter how daunting the task. We can look at that picture in the OP, identify what we want in it, and work to get it.

>>35653937
I love these anon

Please post all alternative timeline r9k posts you have

>Ugg Thunderclub tries to steal your food and tools and there is no one to stop him

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>tfw Staygar is mating with other tribemates

Damn whores.

>>35652426
I just saw a copy of this thread on /pol/

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