Its sad how the internet turned all of you into nihilists.

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>>35540929
>implying i wasnt a nihilist in the first place

The internet was a mistake
Does not surprise me it's not original

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>>35540945
Nihilism doesn't hold you accountable. At least with other religions if you do something bad, then something bad will happen to you.

It falls in line with anti-authoritarianism and anarchy. That whole "no masters" kinda thing.

But society was built by having codes, and rules, it wasn't built by anarchy.

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we're in a second renaissance baby, you just don't know it cuz u in it

>>35541011
The life of a morally depraved slacker is not one that I envy.

>>35540929
I was a much bigger one before I started using the Internet
I had a very isolationist personality and only used the Internet for occasional information purposes until I had a psychotic break that I figured stemmed from social withdrawal
I've been much happier and healthier since I made the compromise

>>35541009
Society can fuck right off

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>>35541023
>moral realism
no less religious than a mudslime.

>>35540929
I hasn't. It has made me more hateful however, like before I came on /r9k/ I used to believe that sexism wasn't a problem in 21st century western countries, I don't believe that anymore, at least not as much as I used to.

There's a few other things as well, like how it made me more socially liberal and slightly more racist. But I wouldn't say it's turned me in to nihilist, I'm more passionate about what I believe in now than before.

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>>35541009
yep, and all those dumb bitches believing in gods and punishments built a really nice place for me to play games and watch anime while I shit on everything they ever did

fucking tools.

>>35541009
Thing is, I've held myself accountable and noting good has come of it.
It's hard to believe anything good can happen when a family member has mental illness.

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>meme nihilism
fuck outta here queers

What are you talking about? Nihilism is the only logical perspective.

Nothing matters so fuck ups are meaningless, your reputation is meaningless, existence is pointless.

If everything had meaning, if shame was eternal and if faith existed I'd kill myself. All my life people have done nothing but tell me how to live my life and it always rub me the wrong way. There is no purpose, therefore I'll make my own and live according to my principles and desires. Nihilism is breaking your chains from fear.

What you meant, OP, is pessimism. People often confuse the two. Nihilism in itself is mostly rooted in optimism.

>>35541159
I don't think you've read nietzsche. he's a non-cognitivist and a nihilist, and was very clear that existentialism was derived from his opinionated basis on a good way to approach life.

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>>35541027
You should go to church.

>>35541036
Why?

>>35541037
I'm not Muslim, I'm Christian. I don't behave like a savage, I'm a kind and just individual.

I'm planning to become a police officer so I can keep people in line and protect them from harm.

>>35541042
>I'm more passionate about what I believe in now than before.

I can respect that.

>>35541054
Why are you behaving so irrationally? Don't you realize that society gave you all the lovely things you enjoy?

When you look at the success of someone elses life, and see the effort and discipline that goes into achieving something wonderful, are you not inspired to better your own life?

Additionally how can you look at the beautiful scenery of the world and the complexity of the creatures that inhabit it and not believe in a creator?

>>35541160

>Nihilism is the only logical perspective.

And what metric are we using to define "logic"?

Christianity will save your soul, it will make you a better person, a nicer person, and a person with strong morals.

>There is no purpose, therefore I'll make my own and live according to my principles and desires.
This is hedonism.

Tell me, if one eats too many delicious sweets, what happens? They generally become more fat and unhealthy.

The same goes for every other thing in life, too much of a good thing is almost always bad.

>>35541160
technically nihilism is a morally truth-apt view.

what you're looking for when it comes to the "most" logical perspective is phenomenology.

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>>35541199
didn't read

get fucked, retard. the world isn't your safe space.

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>>35541199
Didn't read a word you said, you sorry faggot. Nobody else will either.

>>35541214
>>35541247
You didn't read because you know you can't justify your morally bankrupt hedonism logically.

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>>35541199
If you plan on becoming a police officer to protect people from bad things I suggest that you make an honest effort to start here. The majority of the people here, myself included, have essentially no hope, and thus, no real reason to act in a "nice" way. I mean it, come and help us, stop us from living in this madness. I'm honestly surprised at how few people realize the insanity that's created here. Give it a few more years and another bad global economy and the betas might finally lose it and go apeshit.

>>35541297
not either of him, but you're right, because moral statement cannot be truth-apt. the same goes for trying to justify a moral realist statement logically.

you can try, though. by all means.

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>>35540929
I'm not nihilistic though, just unhappy. I wish I were nihilistic, but I'm too much of a fag to even do that

I'm not op but seriously most of r9k would benefit from religion. I know you're all terrified of being cucks but that's mainly bc you're afraid of how much that reveals about your powerlessness and worthlessness. With religion it's okay to be powerless and you're always worthy no matter what.

Please consider it!

>>35541385
I'm not op but seriously most of r9k would benefit from pretending. I know you're all terrified of being cucks but that's mainly bc you're afraid of how much that reveals about your powerlessness and worthlessness. With pretending it's okay to be powerless and you're always worthy no matter what.

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>>35541199
>christian
>condemns hedonism
>considers themselves "just" and "kind"

Start with the greeks until you're able to understand at the very least T.Aquinus, Chesterton, Kierkegaard and Rabelais

Until then, fuck off with
>b-but society gave me good things so it must be good

Or pray and pat yourself on the back

>>35541443
are you frightened of kant and hume, or something?

>>35541385
I would not benefit from religion because I simply have no faith. I cannot believe in something just because someone says it is the truth.

I'd simply pretend to believe in something but deep down I wouldn't believe. I never did, since I was a child and my mother tried to make me pray.

>>35540929
>be christian
>spend the last 2000 years making serious discussion a joke and engaging in petty squabbles so that their vision of an abstract concept becomes the most relevant

>>35541385
But I realized and contemplated all of these concepts without subscribing to a symbolism based Abrahamic religion based on the Jewish Torah, created from select early tribal desert religions and stories at the time.

You know, the same temples of bondage and money-changing that Christ sacrificed himself to free you from, freeing you from the binding concept of original sin to make you free again from birth and what have you done with his gift?

Went right back to organized temples.

>>35541023
>morals

Stay spooked son

>>35540929
Jokes on you, I only believe in deconstruction and genes. I will prevail!

actually lately ive found myself fully convinced about the existence of god and ive been mentally struggeling how to deal with it

im half convinced the guy is actually malevolent or atleast pure neutral, and im not sure how to approach life like this. do i pray to him? ask him for this and that? how do you deal with a omnipotent thing that exists who doesnt really like you but you kinda deal with eachother? is it possible for him to change his opinion of you?

probably should read the bible but i need some kinda stimulant for that, and i just got off conreta because i was watching porn for 8 hours straight on it and couldnt stop

im doing no fap right now and eating vegan makes makes no fap possible because without it its 100% impossible, and i hate vegans just as much as the rest of you right now so i guess im doing better

i dont know, god is such an odd topic teebh

It's sad how you assume that all of us are nihilists.

>>35540929

>implying the Internet had anything to do with that

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>>35541443
I don't read much, the only book I've read recently was the bible.

>>35541574
It's not about pretending, it's about believing. It's about faith. You must have faith in order to follow god.

Proverbs 3:5-6

Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

>>35541619
Your hubris toward dismissing Christianity is staggering.

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

>>35541691
Quoting Max Stirner just shows what a self centered egoist you are. You're forsaking your fellow man, your country, and god dismissing them as abstractions.

This is not the path to righteousness.

>>35541734
Ok?

>>35541750
>>35541776
There seem to be a large number of disillusioned nihilists. It makes me very sad to see.

>>35541834
>It's not about pretending, it's about believing. It's about faith. You must have faith in order to follow god.

and I have no faith, I was not born with it.

religion is hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwMyjKQ725E

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>>35541867
You should go to church, they will assist you in strengthening your faith.

>>35542017
It's so cringy to watch him conflate fiction with biblical truth.

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>>35541746
Lucifer is the true God of mankind, he liberated us from the supreme being's command, he made each one of us like God in our capacity to shape our own lives and our environment. Whether it be for good or evil, whether it be a creative action or a destructive one, our agency comes from that divine spark which Lucifer gaslit all those years ago.
Lucifer, we have deep sympathy for your ostracism, we have felt your abject loneliness. Lucifer, we are humbled by your courage, you alone defied the supreme authority of the universe and for the sake of a sorry lot of ingrates nonetheless.

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>>35541385
I'm not exactly sure why, maybe it IS the apparent powelessness, but religion just makes me uncomfortable. If it makes you happy and all, keep at it, but I figure going through life just minding my business and not being a dickhole suits me.

>>35542071
you can't strength what doesn't exist

>>35542096
Thats one way to look at it.

But I'm not sure it was really him that gave us that freedom. Where does it say that? Where are you drawing this knowledge from?

>>35542120
>religion just makes me uncomfortable

Blame our media which demonizes Christians. The subversion over the years has utterly ruined peoples perception of religion.

Not to mention an online hoard of athiest youtubers which many people here flock to.

>>35542153
You simply believe that it doesn't exist. You must immerse yourself in it. Open yourself up.

Like I said, you should go to church, you should hang out with other christians, you should read the bible.

The truth is there.

>>35542071
>It's so cringy to watch him conflate fiction with biblical truth.

That's because the entire thing is fiction

>>35542190
Blame's on me. Grew up going to church every sunday, and after getting past the "falling asleep" phase, I just realized, I'm not comfortable around people at the very least pretending to give a shit about how I'm doing.
They've all been genuinely nice, but I just feel like I don't belong. Getting a night shift job has given me the convenient excuse to let my dad know I'm skipping church altogether now.

>>35542191
What the bible teaches is the truth.

Your strawman argument is ineffective.

>>35541349
Why are you waiting for someone to save you? Others can only help you help yourself, and you can take that first step by leaving this place behind.

I don't mean as some sort of "GTFO faggot" type thing, but this place is a massive negative feedback loop. If you have any insecurities, you're almost guaranteed to feel worse after a visit.

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>>35540929
>the internet
Make no mistake, my miserable childhood turned me into a nihilist.

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>All these faggots misunderstanding nihilism

>>35542345
Pessimistic nihilism is still nihilism

>>35542244
If you're feeling burnt out on church it's ok to take a break.

Maybe try different churches. Large churches generally allow you to blend into the crowd.

> but I just feel like I don't belong
Yeah, find that larger church for real, join a small group, (the big churches sometimes have them)

The small group is where you're paired up with people around your age and you can get together with people of your own demographic who share your belief rather than a 100 year old fossil whom you couldn't possibly relate to.

>>35542302
>but this place is a massive negative feedback loop. If you have any insecurities, you're almost guaranteed to feel worse after a visit.

This is the truth.

>>35542333
Have you tried going to church and believing in God friend?

>>35542345
What is there to misunderstand? It's a default answer for those who think they're "too smart" for religion.

>>35542247
>What the bible teaches is the truth.

A really funny "truth"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SxvlthlMzo

You'll grow up and have to deal with difficult decisions, heart break and loss. You'll grow out of it.

Your mother raped and killed? Who cares, nothing matters. Dedicate your life and cure cancer? Who cares nothing matters.

I can see why it appeals to internet people- yeah you've wasted your life being a worthless sack of shit because hey nothing matters right?

Cathars were only true christians anything else is nothing but roman imperialism

>>35542381
>It's a default answer for those who think they're "too smart" for religion.
Nihilism makes no statements regarding religion. In fact, Nihilism is perfectly compatible with an idea of God in the deistic, or perhaps Brahmanic sense. The latter being God as more of a force in the universe than an entity with a whim and desire of its own. Nihilism is merely acknowledging that there is no -inherent- meaning to life and that all systems of morality are essentially artificial and thus subjective.

The latter is self-evident, merely examine history or even the different regions of the world. An example: fucking young boys has been acceptable in very nearly every corner of the planet at some point in the last twenty thousand years. The Romans and Greeks did it, obviously, but so too did the Persians, Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Celts, Turks, Mongols, Aztecs, Incans... you get the picture. The only place we cannot say this of with certainty is Africa, and that's largely due to a lack of reliable historical sources.

Yet fucking pre-pubescent and pubescent boys in the ass is now considered morally repugnant in most of the world (Afghanistan and Pakistan being notable exceptions) because our conception of childhood has changed. Neither our system of morality nor the system which was practiced by our ancestors for the majority of our history is wrong, ours is merely preferable to the society in which we currently live.

As to the former notion, that life is without inherent meaning, we have few options otherwise if we do not admit this. Are we intended to worship God, the Creator? What sort of vain sack of shit would create a race of sentients solely to worship it? Are we merely here to breed and pass on our genetic material? Then life is essentially meaningless, congratulations. Perhaps it's something more abstract, like happiness or security or any number of other concepts? Then the meaning of life is so vague as to be pointless.

>>35541009
>le antiquity statue quote man

This is one of the most annoying new memes.

Society back then was 70% slaves or more. The Romans were the worst about it. I'd rather live in a middle of the road free state with individual liberty and equality for all then an overworking, hyper-stratified "glorious society" that built wonders and made discoveries on the blood of the underclass.

>>35542586
You can paint anything to be pointless if you try hard enough

>>35541834
>they don't believe the Bible and it's lies
>I know, I'll quote the Bible!

The three-pronged trident of abraham's religion was a horrible idea. The rest of the world suffers while you assholes mutilate your genitals, declare everything sinful or unclean or satanic, and blow each other up.

>>35542743
Which is precisely the point of nihilism.
Everything IS pointless, but rather than taking this as a depressing notion or falling into despair we ought to be immensely relieved. When everything is pointless the only reason to live is the reason we define for ourselves, as rational human beings with a capacity for self-determination.

>>35542451
Again, biblical truth is not fiction.

>Muh flying spaghetti fallacy

Oh yeah, and where did your beliefs come from huh? Were you just "too smart" for all of that?

Were you "enlightened by your own intelligence" or did you look up some meme philosopher on the internet?

>>35542586
>Are we intended to worship God, the Creator?
Yes, that is our purpose.

>What sort of vain sack of shit would create a race of sentients solely to worship it?

If anyone is vain, it's you. The vanity to place yourself in such a position of self importance that you wouldn't worship the very being which created you.

>Are we merely here to breed and pass on our genetic material?
No, we're here to glorify God.

There is no other purpose, because there doesn't need to be another purpose. To worship our creator is the greatest purpose we can aspire to.

>>35542688
At least they were unified with a societal purpose.

Unlike these aimless drifters of today.

So disillusioned because of the breadth of knowledge the internet brings. They are spoiled, and lack any sort of discipline. They're short sighted and the younger ones especially resort to extremist political values simply to amuse themselves.

>>35542745
>declare everything sinful or unclean or satanic

We also suffer because of sin. Sin poisons the mind with a sense of purpose, or of false pride. Sin is the embrace of hedonism, of gluttony.

Sin is the fall of man, and it's everywhere.

>>35542381
You can't "try" believing in something. Truth has a way of keeping its hold on your mind. I can't live my life believing the earth is flat, or that I'm president, or that some all powerful man in the sky (and it's a man, of course, not genderless or female teehee) is keeping tabs on EVERYTHING I DO and cooking up a special cauldron of hellfire for my pathetic alcoholic mentally ill ass. Even if I did somehow become a believer I'd probably kill myself from the pressure

living with integrity is really simple.

if you tell yourself you're going to do something, try to do it.
if you don't plan on doing something, don't tell yourself you're going to do it.

did you make a certain choice in the past and are faced with a similar one again and want to stay consistent? you achieved consistency? congratulations, you have integrity.

>>35542772
I don't believe it's pointless. We are a part of this "dead material" world but if the spiritual world exists then there is a reason for the former's existence. It depends on your belief and perspective on the material world

>>35542792
Religion is a mental illness. This level of delusion is embarrassing. You can spout memes about nonreligious people until the cows come home, but your Bronze Age faiths are dying out in the west at a rapid rate. Bye bye.

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I've been interested in converting, but how do I get faith? there's still a bit deep down that is fedora and can't let go
as if believing would be like lying to myself and ignoring """"logic"""" so to speak

also I am curious, why christianity? what makes it, and god, the one true one?

>>35542792
>Yes, that is our purpose.
But why should that be the case? Why would God require the worship of his creations? Does he gain something from it? I think we can all agree that God is constrained by the same logical boundaries that we are. Otherwise an omnipotent god could create a stone which he could not lift, and then lift that stone, without violating the first condition. So if God is constrained by logic, what logical purpose could there be to create us, creatures with the capacity for existential dread, solely to worship him?

>>35542792
>aimless drifters of today

I think you missed the part where we live in the most luxurious, innovative, powerful, and socially advanced civilization in world history? Today's global world is like the realm of gods compared to the ancients. Fuck going back, I'm looking forward.

>>35540929
Actually it was a mixture of the internet and Catholic school that turned me into an atheist and then an Absurdist.

Eventually you start to see the cracks in what the church wants you to believe about other people and the hypocrisies of the average Catholic.

And I've been to Protestant churchs, which somehow managed to seem less sincere about the faith.

There's this nagging feeling that maybe Orthodox Christianity is actually practised but then I'm just drinking Russian propaganda, and I'm not one to sympathize with Slavs. The Greeks might be OK though.

>>35542853
You missed out on the brainwashing, you won't have full and unrelenting faith unless you hit rock bottom and experience a paradigm shift or you have a near death experienced where your brain hallucinates vivid images of a perceived afterlife.

>>35541407
Well yeah. What, your life is so important that it matters what you believe? It's important to have integrity for some greater purpose you're going to serve?

Fuck right off with all that. The men posting on this board are in a world that has no need for them and doesn't mind if they suffer. They're bleeding all over the place. Maybe you have a more meaningful alternative to pretending?

Also why is it that we can get away with pretending about art, music, sport, literature but the moment you pretend about having a spirit you are a cuck? Weird.

>>35542894
This reads like people who don't play games because of the fanbase

>it's another "christcuck thinks what he does is not in vain" episode'

just give up dude, you'll become happier too

>>35542867
The thing is that history repeats itself

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>>35540929
>nihilists

You mean, that phase in our highschool - early uni days?

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>>35542899
>You missed out on the brainwashing, you won't have full and unrelenting faith unless you hit rock bottom and experience a paradigm shift or you have a near death experienced where your brain hallucinates vivid images of a perceived afterlife.
FUCK!!

>>35542904
Huge difference. Religious community is literally about the people in it. That's the reality right there, the clergy and the practitioners that worship the deities and the idols. If you don't like them, you don't like the community.

A game can stand on its own, just turn off your mic or play single player.

>>35541834
The devil can quote scripture for his purposes. If you want to be someone who cares for and understands his fellow man like a "true" Christian should, I would suggest reading more of Shakespeare than the Bible

Nihilism is only a problem when life is shit.

There is no afterlife, you only have one chance to do good.

>>35542853
Do you read much on the subject? I find that reading is a pretty good antidote to fedora, bc fedora is rooted in the same ignorance that it rejects.

>>35542943
So can religion. You can practice religion alone. The gaming community does not represent the game the same way the religious community does not represent the religion

>>35541746
>lately ive found myself fully convinced about the existence of god
>god doesn't interact with us in any way and probably doesn't give a fuck
How would you then get convinced he exists?
And about what you should towards him, I say "Do onto others, what you want to get done to you.". If god ignores you, you ignore him also.

>>35542935
This. Anyone who doesn't grow out of nihilism into existentialism and secular humanism is stuck in adolescence. But I guess that's impossible since true nihilists would eventually reject things like eating and drinking and die anyways.

>>35542954
besides the bible, what do you recommend I read? so far I've attended a ukranian orthodox church, but it didn't feel right probably because I don't speak ukranian lol

recently I wanted to go back though, maybe to a different church

>>35542984
The god delusion by Richard Dawkins. Or are you afraid your faith is so brittle that if you read you gonna go atheist?

>>35542954
Reading and education in general are what are driving people away from cuckery and into fedora in the first place. You might want to drive them in the opposite direction to hold onto faith. Look at Boko Haram and the Taliban's policies on school.

>>35543015
this was the worst post I've read all day
please get out of my (You)s

>>35542805
>Truth has a way of keeping its hold on your mind

God is real. Even if he's hidden from our sight, he is there. It's a faith based religion. You must challenge yourself to truly question if this thing you believe right now is the real "truth".

>>35542828
To live without faith is truly an illness. Consumed by sin and vice, swayed by the whims of our bodies to whatever horrible end.

-Egoism and the lack of concern for your fellow man.
-Bereft of morality, presuming that morality is merely an abstraction.
-Presuming to be wiser in all ways then those whom preceded them.

>>35542853
Because it's something you feel in your heart. And you know he's there, and that he's looking down right now and guiding you through your problems.

>>35542860
I think to try and understand God and the reasons for why he does things can be very challenging.

Even as a Christian I don't presume to know his masterplan.

>>35542867
All of that is even more reason for people to become drifters.

If everything has already been done, then what is the point right? They feel overwhelmed by all of these things you couldn't possibly hope to learn about in your lifetime. The achievements of conquerors, of kings, and of great philosophers, and bodybuilders past, glories they can't possibly hope to live up to.

>>35542946
I don't think reading Shakespeare is going to make me less of a devil. I certainly wouldn't want to be the devil though.

I hate evil. I don't want to be evil, I want to be good. I want to be a good person who does good things and inspire others to do the same.

>>35540929
I was a nihilist before I found the internet.

Also, nihilism isn't a bad thing or a good thing. It is entirely neutral. Your outlook on it is what makes it so. If you have major depression, this is going to make nihilism seem like a bad thing. However, if you have a more optimistic disposition, nihilism is fucking great!

When I was a teenager my mom would drag me to church and my pastor would always say, "Atheism leads to nihilism and nihilism leads to depression," and I believed it for a while, but now I'm starting to doubt that. You can be a nihilist without being depressed. You can be depressed without being a nihilist. They are not connected.

>>35541574
>>35541574
Its not as simple as just not having faith. Why can't you trust in powers greater than yourself? Do you think that God is something that would just fit into place if your mum managed to get you praying more often? Do you read enough? Do you have an open mind to having faith even if you weren't convinced? Do you understand how worthless being convinced really is?

>>35543015
this was the best post I've read all day
please get into everyones (You)s

>>35543051
You sound like a fucking feminist, you loser.

I hope you like the void because that's all there is for existence

>>35541199
>>I'm planning to become a police officer so I can keep people in line and protect them from harm.
Got news for you dude, joining the police will just make you the sort of person who bothers people over trivial bullshit like hiring whores and smoking weed. But then, you being a retarded christfag makes you the sort of person who likely sees that as a valuable public service.

Fuck off.

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>>35543089
Thats a pretty bold assumption Anon.

You're presuming that God in all his glory isn't waiting for us in the afterlife.

>>35543054
>You must challenge yourself to truly question if this thing you believe right now is the real "truth".

I did that, that's why I left religious belief, and belief in magic and the supernatural, behind.

I believe in humanity now. I believe this is the only world we have, and that we're responsible for ourselves because there isn't any sky-parent that will come down and help if we fuck things up. I also believe that letting go of the idea that good and evil objectively exist allows us to open our hearts to compassion and forgiveness instead of deeming everything different and scawwy as satanic or wrong or sinful.

>>35543078
>You sound like a fucking feminist
lol
I'm an atheist by the way you numpty

>>35543115
>You're presuming that God in all his glory isn't waiting for us in the afterlife.
I hope he does exist in the afterlife so I could spit in his face for being a godlike piece of shit.

>>35543115
And you're presuming an afterlife exists at all, and that it isn't just wishful thinking to explain away the terrifying question of death. Even the ancients had fears, so they created a just world to comfort themselves.

>>35543115
then why didn't "he" or should say "it"?took us there in the first place? why so much suffering and playing favourite with all of us? some really evil normals go through their lives hurting others nonstop and there's no justice at all!

>>35543054
You make the assumption that faith is the only philosophy someone could possibly live by, and that everyone who doesn't believe in your specific god is lost and miserable. How arrogant.

>>35543028
I don't want to consider the opinions of disgusting cultists for any subject. From the sermon to the fiqh, education is a pillar of religion done correctly.

Fedora gives all the self righteousness of relying on 'logic' and 'reason' but none of the substance. Dawkins has read even less philosophy than the average robot. Fedoras are barbarians and savages.

It's been a while since I've seen a conversation between opposing parties here not dissolve into shit flinging.
Btw, nihilists what is YOUR purpose in life? What meaning do you give yours?
For me when I'm on my death bed I want to look to the person near me (I hope there will be one) and tell them that my life was truly worth living, that however small my contribution was I helped people around me.

>>35543189
He can explain the evil in the world with "god has plan" or "he gifted us free will". The bigger problem is god's love for me. How do you love someone and never reveal themselves to them? How are close to someone and never speak to him? How do you care about someone and let them suffer? The whole "Jesus wants to have an intimate relationship with you" doesn't make any sense.

>>35542976
You can't practice Catholicism alone, Sunday Mass is sort've something you have to be at every week to call yourself a proper Catholic. And combined with service requirements you would hold to if you're serious about the faith, you can't really practice it while divorcing yourself from its general community. Catholic literally means "universal" or "united".

The other thing for me has always tended to be the weirdly skewed sense of priorities and politicized nature of the faith. Maybe it's not this way in other countries or even regions but I've noticed the pulpit used to sell political candidates and positions before, usually over the abortion crusade.

I like my government secular and the Founding Fathers, as religious men, were prudent enough to create a state that belonged to no one faith. I also think the abortion fight and the time/money spent on it could go to helping the people who are already alive as a priority; we're not turning the clock back on Roe vs. Wade, and federal prohibitions in the face of popular local support have never actually worked (see: alcohol, marijuana).

There's a lot more to discuss and explain if you'd like me to continue on my position.

come home white man

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>>35543197
You seem to be comfortable spouting off cultist points on a board for lonely, vulnerable people whom you believe you can prey on like a fucking vulture through promises of happiness.

Atheism and agnosticism are the future. You know this, I know this, it's readily apparent. Faith in general has castrated itself in the west to keep up with the rapid intellectual and social advances of the modern world. It's a living relic of the past that's now acting as shackles trying to hold the new golden city on the hill back to its barbaric roots. If you could truly open your mind to honest study and research you would be able to find the truth instead of scuffling around looking for tidbits of two thousand year old paper that justify your delusion.

/r9k/ doesn't want you. Go back to protesting outside gay weddings or soldiers funerals.

>>35543197
>disgusting cultists
>I'm religious
Do I even have to comment on that?

>>35543204
>Btw, nihilists what is YOUR purpose in life? What meaning do you give yours?
>For me when I'm on my death bed I want to look to the person near me (I hope there will be one)
To be a NEET until parents die then kill myself

>>35543245
>white man
>posts the Jew god

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>>35542302
I'm not sure if you're OP or not but I just want to point out that I've always found it funny that people talk about "wanting to help others" but then turn around and say "you have to help yourself". I understand that they are mutually exclusive ideas, but when you already feel somewhat jaded about society in general, this mixed messages shit makes it difficult to figure out what to do. I'm a very independent person so in that sense I'm not a true robot, but my mental disposition is poor. I know I'm nuts but at least this place gives me somewhere where I can be myself. I can't talk about my inner thoughts with people irl because I'd be put in a hospital. However, I'm still a person with a job who pays taxes and whatnot but that doesn't mean I have to like all of this. I'd be glad if Trump and China started dropping bombs on each other because at least that way we'd be out of this.

>>35543197
>they're cultists because they believe wrong
>but I believe right
>I'm so happy I was born into the right religion and not the wrong one like those guys
>I'm so happy I was born in the right time period to experience the right religion not like those ancient guys who were smart but super wrong

>>35543263
>you believe you can prey on like a fucking vulture

And you're perfectly fine demonizing people for their beliefs and calling them anti-intellectuals who are stuck in the past.

We're well aware of the current year Anon.

And just because you're dogmatic in assuming what you believe is correct doesn't mean everyone here agrees with you.

>>35543302
I've started self help threads before.

It saw minor success.

>>35541009
sort your self out bucko

https://youtu.be/nsZ8XqHPjI4

The muslims jews and christians all believe in basically the same deity but still fight to the death over some differences in their books.

Nice masterplan you got there god

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>>35543335
Lol, the hypocrisy is astonishing. That's why we say you're deluded.

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i just want to find a cute boyfriend

>>35543335
He did exactly what the OP did, only without the false promises.

>>35543388
You don't understand it's all part of his big plan! He wants to weed out those who touch themselves at night. Only the worthy may go to heaven!

>>35543276
I'm not religious. Original comment.

>>35540929
Leaving christianity is the best decision I made in my entire life. Any religion that demands faith and say everybody who believes in something else deserve eternal torture is inherently evil and should be scorned.

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>>35543436
No, you're just a troll.

>>35540929
i actually became nihilistic after i received my vaccines when i was 5. it caused a severe neurological reaction and i've had symptoms of ocd, aspergers, and autism. i kind of got better but it pretty much drained my brain of most emotions and i haven't cared about much since then

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Culture is my religion

>>35543419
be my girlfriend then please

>>35543263
>>35543263
Now you're thinking with fedoras. This is the kind of self indulgent and smarmy shitposting that passes as atheism in the current year. There are ten of thousands of people like you with reddit-tier brains and no reading who speak up about how religion stole their girl.

Stop trying to look clever and read a book.

>>35543446
No i honestly believe religion would do a lot of good for most of r9k

>>35543497
>tens of thousands

Try hundreds of millions around the world, if not more. People are getting sick of the lies and everything done in the name of them.

>fedora fedora fedora FEDORA FEDORA FEDORA

You can't discount truth by trying to slap a picture of a fat guy in an unfashionable hat on it lmao. Most people who became nonreligious did so because they started opening books and doing their own research.

Again, you're a snake preying on desperate people. Your group is hemmorhaging members around the world and you think a board for lonely virgins would be perfect to integrate and assimilate. And as soon as someone gets fed up with your tone and responds in kind suddenly they're the bad one? Isn't going to work buddy. People are sick of being policed around by pedophiles in Rome.

>>35543527
Only if you can provide the mandatory Mormon virgin waifus. Untill then you can fuck right off.

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>>35543586
>Most people who became nonreligious did so because they started opening books and doing their own research.

Yeah, it totally wasn't because atheist losers gathered traction and circlejerked till they assumed they were "right" and had "won".

>Again, you're a snake preying on desperate people. Your group is hemmorhaging members around the world and you think a board for lonely virgins would be perfect to integrate and assimilate.

>le ebil cult

Arguing from an ethical standpoint doesn't really hold much water against someone who's morally superior does it?

Christians have the best morality of anyone in the world. We're a force for good that helps millions of people.

>>35540929
No, it turned me into a realist. I was a naive idealist before, but hard knocks combined with cautionary tales have made me much wiser to what the world really is. I'd like it to be better, of course, but I no longer think my vision of what it should be is what the world really is.