ITT The Most Bitter Redpills You Had To Swallow

>>35282428
Peaple never really help each other

>>35282428
That altruism doesn't exist, that every single thing we do, we do for ourselves. Even the greatest philanthropists, give to charity either to look good to the press or to look good to themselves. When we help people, we do it to alleviate the guilt of not helping them.

There is no one who is truly selfless.

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this is an extraordinarily original comment

>>35282467
If you really wanted to what's stopping someone from becoming an exception to that and being truly altruistic?

Monks are able to repress desires and instincts like that through sheer force of will.

That the red pill is bullshit and you should just live your life peacefully without judging others.

Wait, I mean - DAE wymen = stupid xd wojak

>>35282659
>you should just live your life peacefully without judging others.
There's people that deserve violence and judgement though.

>>35282467
What about the people who do charity work and don't go to the press?

>>35282680
But who are you to judge them?

>>35282680
You're right, people do stupid shit that deserves punishment, and they should learn from their mistakes. But you should never look down on others believing you're superior to them because of this. We're all human, we all make mistakes.

>>35282718
Someone with basic morals, if someone is trying to rape my mother I'd beat the shit out of him and judge him as pond scum that deserves death.

You go ahead and send that kinda man a bouquet though, anon.

>>35282428
>no one cares
>no one should care

>>35282607
Monks do it out of self interest too. It's just that their self interest is an immaterial reward.

>>35282839
That's funny but I was just using monks as an example of an extreme show of willpower, a level of willpower that could be used for true altruism.

>>35282428
Violence usually IS the answer.

>>35282428

Traps are like a gateway drug to becoming a full-fledged faggot

>>35282428
Life is largely down to a dice roll as to whether you'll be happy, and beyond that there's no karma - the happiest and most successful one is the one that does shady, ruthless shit when it's required but has learned to keep it hidden

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Isn't it crazy?

All your life you're told women are the romantic, dreamy, loyal, devoted ones.

When in reality they're all cold, calculating, opportunistic "lovers" who will abandon or betray you the MOMENT you show a single sign of weakness/vulnerability.

As Tolkien said, women are more loose in giving out "darlings" and "beloveds" so we think they actually care.

Take heed. Whenever a woman says "I love you", make sure to add "right now" in your head.

From a young age, my mother reinforced the idea that life is bullshit and you usually don't get your way. "Life ain't fair" she'd say. And I gotta admit, it's helped me tremendously.

>>35283121
>the happiest and most successful one is the one that does shady, ruthless shit when it's required but has learned to keep it hidden
>happiest
I was unhappy just telling my friend a white lie about something because I didn't want to hear his shit if I told the truth, I felt like garbage doing that.

Happiness is relative, some people feel happy doing what you said and being opportunistic people users but for me that shit eats at my soul.

>>35283198
You don't get your way unless you run roughshod over others and take it. Then, you don't get punished if you do it right. Thus, life is not fair but you're still getting the most out of it. If life was fair, you'd be punished. Instead you'll find out that usually you are not. That's the redpill.

>>35283198
The most based mums are the mums who prepare you for a cruel world rather than blind you to it

>>35283216
Your morality is a cruel trick that's been played on you to guarantee your obedience. The people who push that shit do not practice it. You're being laughed at.

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>>35282428
>I actually have a normie live, but im lunging for a robot life

>>35282467
This. Everything is done to either make money, increase pride, or achieve personal satisfaction.

>The most dependable friends, the people you can really build on, are exclusively male. You will never be able to both love and trust someone, women can't because their manipulative brains don't know trust and men can't because women only care about what's best for them.

>>35282607
t. weed social philosopher

>>35283291
That's not really a redpill

Everyone knows women are worthless "friends"

>>35282467
This is not a redpill you dunce. You have just defined altruism in a way that makes it literally have no meaning.

>>35283317
meant fo4r >>35282718

>>35283253
None of that changes what does and doesn't make me happy. All of my emotions, thoughts, beliefs, abilities, physical traits and so on are ultimately just the culmination of natural (and recently artificial) selection. Just because it wasn't my will to be this way doesn't mean I can change the fundamentals of who I am.

>>35283350
True enough. You are who you are. Try to live a virtuous life then, and hopefully you will be happy that way.

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>>35283333
holy quads
checkd
origamiman3000

that you'll never be the president to take an official envoy to the Yasakuni shrine and offer your pinky as an apology for (((your))) aggressions and mistreatment of the superior japanese people

>>35283333
Quads of truth and wisdom.

>your country really isn't that great
>in the end, everyone (or over 99.9% of all people at least) only cares about him/herself
>the mean or bad guys win much more often than the nice or good ones

>>35282689
>or to look good to themselves
plox reed moar

>>35283906
I think at that point you gotta refer to quadsman over here >>35283333

>>35282786
I'd argue that everyone cares, but their caring has been stretched thin but the suffering of the world, which is the real horror.
Not allowing yourself to be stretched thin by battling the battling apathy is the true pain.

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>tfw when you realize humans are just higher functioning animals but animals nonetheless

Every single animal on Earth has a behavioual pattern that can be observed over time as do humans

These patterns are governed in part by physiology but also by conditioning stemming from the environment that forces behavioral changes in order to survive.

These learned behaviors - because the human mind is very complex and we are living in ways that do not encourage its stability - can often contradict and fall short of environmental demands because of an excess of social demand and over stimulation

This imbalance and overall decline in society is due in large to this caused by modern living and overburdening cultural demands

You realize the only free will you have is to follow these persisting biological directives handed down to you for eons

That desire is suppressed by the societal Elite so that you then become dependent on the synthetic versions of it they sell you to make themselves rich

They learned how to condition us into their slaves long ago and have been playing us like fools ever since

>tfw you realize this cycle is never ending because of greed is a part of human nature to prey upon the weak

Bad things happen to good people, no good deed goes unpunished, and there is no reason to anything that happens in the world. Anybody who tries to ascribe reasons for the random shit that befalls people daily is delusional.

>>35283011
This.

>>35283136
And this.

>>35283198
And this.

>>35284427
>no good deed goes unpunished
I remember reading this in the codex for Chaos Marines, point is that's some top edge m8.

>>35283333

Quads brings truth, love and life:

This guy fucking gets your meaningless pseudo-semantic objection. Why should someone not at least feel proud that they have overcome their selfish nature to give something to charity? Many, indeed, do do it to look good, but many have this happen incidentally. I've met them.

To be "truly selfless" as you would have it would also mean feeling fuck all, at any point, since by definition feeling anything at anytime would mean that you were feeling selfishly. You're a mong for thinking that would be any kind of life worth living. Fuck, even having an INTERESTING THOUGHT would be selfish ("aha, you're only thinking because you like thinking).

A far more disturbing redpill is that most people ARE just basically selfish, most of the time. This is why laws, walls, doors, locks, markets, police etc are all totally fucking necessary. Fuck, even the most unselfish things people do for their kids are sometimes tainted by that one parent who just wants their kid to either be top-chad or successful in business or something so they can brag to their friends. Jesus christ its your own kid and you would RATHER they burnt themselves out being football captain or working 15 hours a day in a law firm than that they did something comfier and carried on your line...fuck me...Its that level of selfishness that can redpill you on just HOW self involved most people are.

Bring on the genetic engineering so that we can bump those altruistic genes into everyone and all will be well.

>>35282607
>>35283333
This is what they call involuntary egoism. Egoists that aren't aware or willing to accept their own egoism.

>>35284576
Stirner pls go

>>35282428

WRONG!
People who have few options are the true romantics. Romanticism is comorbid with victim mindsets.

>>35284576
The problem is that your criteria for altruism is for it to be uncaused, but there is no uncaused action.

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>>35282467
>everyone is an egoist

WOAH, really made me think

>>35284669
Romanticism is just an aestethic approach to sexual relations. It is meant to conceal their base nature with a veneer of beauty.

maybe this:
we all go into death screaming "no!"

>>35284711
oh and by "no" she meant "no"
jk

Longterm friendship is something that can never exist between a guy and an attractive girl. You're always hanging out with them with the underlying expectation that you'll eventually fuck them. Too much longing and jealousy.

>>35284672
I was going to make this post, but you nailed it.

that op can't inb4
nearly asphyxiated over that 1

>>35285216
What about bisexuals? Can they just not be friends with not-ugly people?

>>35286608
As a bisexual, basically no. It means no one is exempt from wondering 'what if'. Annoying desu

>>35282428
Some are. I am part time.
>>35282443
Some do. I like to help family, friends and neighbours. It gives me a good feeling, and them too.
>>35282467
Technically true. See above. I have two children and would do quite a lot for them. The feeling when you drive home after a phone call when one is really really really ill. Where do I draw the line, the thought is that _I_ don't want to see _them_ suffer.
>>35283011
Violence seldom is. All feelings create more of the same feeling. Good vibes are like aplague, they spread. As are bad.
>>35283136
People are diverse. Some are dicks or cunts, some aren't. I have met lots of loving women. And see above. Maybe you are the dick?
>>35283230
But please remember that there are several routes to happiness. And brute-forcing doesn't necessarily lead to happiness, although to some it might. It might lead to success, in some non-defined way.
>>35283253
It's not as much as a cruel trick than a way for social animals to play together and achieve more together than alone. Humans generally play well together (feel free to disagree) as most of our accomplishes has been teamwork.
>>35285216
This isn't true. I studied in a field with mostly women. Although I had a desire to fuck some of the attractive chicks some became friends. And like in any long term relationship looks get you only so far. It's how you cope with people what matters. Nobody wants to hang out with idiots no matter how pretty they are.

>>35282467
This isn't so much of a big deal to me. Of course there is no such thing as true altruism(you will always have a reason for doing what you do). Of course you feel the need to help someone, not because you are truly altruistic, but because your brain is responding to certain chemicals that make you want to help said person. That's fine.

What bothers me is that there are still very few selfless(or even generally kind or morally grounded) people in this world. Most people are very selfish and self centered assholes who have no problem trampling over others for their own benefit, or even just for fun. At least in my experience.

>>35282428
Human empathy is imperfect, dont expect a normie to be able to empathize with a robot. Empathy only comes from What one experiences or is hard wired against

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>>35282428
All those people that hurt me will never pay for what they have done

especially the roasties

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>>35286910
>I have two children and would do quite a lot for them.
This isn't funny.

>>35286910
dad?

original

Parents are cynics about their children. As a young'un I thought the relationship between parent and child had some sort of magic, but really they/we are deeply cynical about our kids and their prospects. Mostly parents know you are a fucking waste of time.

>>35285216
there are exceptions but those are usually close childhood friends or ex partners

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>>35287052
then stop pooping them out you normalcunt.

>>35287014
Hah! The way of the internet, deliberately misunderstanding. O tempora, o mores.

>>35287179
Tell me what I am misunderstanding here.

>>35287179
My understanding is that you do not belong and you come here to laugh at our misery.

"it's just satire bro!"

>>35286841
>>35285216
I don't think wondering "what if" really means "I can't be friends with this person", just gotta show varying amounts of willpower.

>>35282428
Existence is futile, and once you realize that nothing you do will ever change any course of events, and you should just stay in your niche and never go against the system, and this is the way to achieving TRUE happiness.

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>>35287490
>existence is futile
Wow, nice going kiddo. Happy 13th birthday.

>>35282428
its best to puke early from alcohol than to wait and you cant puke but want to

>>35287640
Not sure if you meant that as a late realization, or edgy-ness.

But existence IS futile.
You do pointless things just to live another day to do the same things all over again.
You work just to survive so you can work again the next day.

Nothing improves, yet it doesn't get worse.

In my opinion, that is futility.

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>>35287715
this is your life
it doesnt get any better than this
this is your life
and its ending one minute at a time

>>35287448
Well of course. I have had friends, and haven't necessarily tried to fuck them

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>>35287715
If it's so damn 'futile', why haven't you offed yourself yet?
You say your only purpose is to work and do the same things every day. If that is true, and it is all pointless in your eyes, then why haven't you escaped it?

>all people in this thread are pathetic

That may include me for the moment, but I am just a bored normie.

>inb4 ppl claiming 2b normie 2

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>>35282467
Also forgetting that in the united states you can count charity donations off on your taxes.

Bonus points if you donate to a charity your friend owns :3.

>>35287772
There are other reasons, religious, etc.

>>35288264
Well if there are other reasons to live, then wouldn't existence not be futile at all?

>>35288294
To be quite honest, religious reasons aren't a reason to LIVE, they're just an excuse not to DIE.

Existence is still futile, it's just death is more so.

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>>35288330
How can something be more futile than another?
Also a reason to not die is literally a reason to live, it's the same thing.

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>>35282428
>religion is just a way for people scared of dying to feel better about it
>also is a poor man's way to create morality because a lot of people are stupid and need a reason to be good or not do evil things like steal or kill people, otherwise they get sent to hell when they die
>far more likely that we have something like souls or just a collection of complex waves or complex energy patterns.
>when we die we go elsewhere and combine with other waves or other energy
>maybe its all to accumulate data or fix a system in our universe, maybe its just some higher being that has split itself to experience a different form of reality or maybe its all for some greater purpose we can't really fathom
>mfw jehovahs witness ask me if i've let jesus into my life

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>>35282428
That I've already experienced my full range of emotions, and there's no need to continue pretending to desire to experience stronger emotions.

I used to think that acting like I wanted to feel strong emotions would eventually cause me to experience them, but they aren't there and the only interest I had in them was purely curiosity.

>>35282428
That women have innate morals or beliefs. They believe whatever Chad says. That means your mom would be ok with murder if some Chad serial killer cane into her life