g-guys I think I am falling for the tranny meme, I emailed a

>>35248288

Head Thridden.

>>35248288
Your life will literally only get worse and more expensive. People in real life will think you're disgusting and once you start the transition you can't stop and will become more obsessed with looking passable, which you won't be, unless you spend a ton of money on plastic surgery.
And even then, only ever people who'd like you are guys on the internet who are only into you as a fetish

>>35248288
how do you get your blood tested for hormone levels? i think i have terminally low t

>>35248288
I could NEVER transition.
Never.
I love myself too much... even though I fucking hate myself.
I've only recently after 11 years on 4chan started to tug off to traps... since I found a few that are so feminine looking and convincing as women.

But hey... if transitioning would make you happy then do it. Do whatever makes you happy so long as it doesn't harm anyone else.

>>35248447
>I found a few that are so feminine looking and convincing as women.
Which ones?

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>>35248423
You get a doctor to order the test.

A Psychiatrist definitely could.

Maybe a nurse could too? But i'm doubtful of that maybe in certain countries. It usually requires a medical degree.

If you tell a doctor however you are providing informed consent and have already started taking hormones, you could just order 2 months worth online and ballpark the dosage. After being on them for 2 weeks set up a doctors appointment and let them know.

They will typically get you blood tests done ASAP and then prescribe you the pills.

This is all in the USA of course.

>>35248288
It's okay anon, if you feel like its the best thing for you then you should do it.

Sometimes I think i'm stronger not doing it but I really want to and not a day goes by that I don't want to a girl. But I also don't wanna lose my family, then I get to thinking maybe i'm just too weak and even though I can support myself I want a family that supports me as well.

but maybe a stronger person would do what they wanted and worry about their happiness first rather than the happiness of a bunch of people that doesn't even like them anyway...

I'm 20, 5'5, and 105 lbs. Ive talked to people who have done it and they say i'm definitely transexual and that I should, that I have a body type that would let me do it with no problem.

I think i'm just scared though, and I know that no matter how much a therapist or psychiatrist butters me up, ill be alone if I do it, without any family to call. Because an old book and a desert god is more important than their kid.

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>thought I was trans
>questioned it for a while
>ended up fapping to tranny porn
>right after cum I look at myself in disgust for considering being a disgusting faggot
>never had tranny thoughts again

it's a fetish anon, seriously, don't ruin your body to live out a fetish.

you prob just need a gf, stop trying to become the gf you desire.

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>>35248288
>I emailed a gender shrink to ask for prices and to get blood tests for hormones
>not just buying the hormones and self medicating

l m a o @ u

>>35248390
>>35248831
>OP will ignore these sensible posts because he's infatuated with the """"support""" he'll get for being a snowflake

Hoping you transition and see what a massive idiot you are

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>>35248898
>sensible
>LMAO ur pervasive feelings of transexuality are just a fetish bro, they'll go away after you fap xD they did for me haha

ok
have you ever considered that maybe you are letting your own bias cloud your judgement?

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Someone explain the tranny meme to me?

Is it because they want to get the benefits of being female? Because everyone will just think you're a perverted freak

Do they want to act dainty and cute? In this case, why not just be a cute gay dude? Why not just cross dress and wear make up, you don't HAVE to be a girl to do "girl" things.

What do they mean when they say "I FEEL female"? I don't feel male, I just am. Trannys are some of the biggest perpetrators of gender stereotypes when you think about it.

>>35249131
>I just am

now imagine that you just feel wrong every moment of your life

If you just are, but something is off

>>35249057
>have you ever considered that maybe you are letting your own bias cloud your judgement?

Nope, but you should. It's literally the exact same as every other psychosis. There is no significant difference between a male and female brain in areas that have any impact in cognitive functions. The whole tranny movement is a bunch of whiners who want to feel special.

Oh, and fapping does subdue any urges you have towards fucking a tranny.

>>35249188
What does that mean? I've felt wrong and anxious for the last 10 years, but I deal with it like a normal human being.

"feeling off" doesn't mean you should cut off your balls

>>35249131
I'm a tranny and I do it because of crippling dysphoria.

There's no perks whatsoever to being a tranny, it's worse than being a normal guy or normal girl. I did it because I tried everything else to rid my desire to be physically female and transition was the last option, and somehow it ended up being the only thing that actually made me feel better.

>>35249131
>I don't feel male, I just am
They don't understand this notion and attach gender roles/stereotypes to the genders. Look at all the trannies and you'll see how they try to conform to what men say a woman should look like, they all cake on the makeup(to hid their ugly man faces), wear girly clothes, adopt girly mannerisms, and try to act like a stereotypical woman.

They're no different than a person with anorexia or some other body dysmorphic disorder. Each person feels uncomfortable in their body and goes through drastic changes to look how they WANT to look, but they aren't coming to this decision in a rational state.

>>35249278
>did it because I tried everything else to rid my desire to be physically female

You clearly didn't, but you'll probably wake up one day and realize how much you fucked up and kill yourself. It's going to be real interesting when this whole push for trannies backfires and they all start killing themselves.

>>35249301
this is my understanding of trannies as well. Putting on girl clothes and girly mannerisms don't make you female. You CAN'T change genders, so why not just be a flamboyant male? Clearly all they want to do is act "feminine".

Feminine traits aren't restricted to girls, you can be a feminine dude if you want. Whatever, that's infinitely more reasonable instead of caving out a vagina.

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>>35249362
Breddy much this.

One day these trannies will look down at their empty ball sacks where they had their nuts removed and think fuck.

I worked with a tranny for a short period of time at a shitty wagecuck job.

I was kind of interested to see a real life trap since I have never spoken to one before, oh god it was a freakshow, they were somewhat "passable" but you can't hide the man voice, man shoulders, man face and man body structure, looked like a dude walking from behind, they also seemed depressed and soon left, they used the retard toilet since the other women didn't want them to use the women's even after the company said she could lol.

Put me off traps for life after seeing one IRL.

>>35249362
>church, prayer, meditation
>cognitive behavior therapy
>unlicensed christian conversion therapy
>drugs and alcohol
>sex with women
>sex with men
>dating
>working out
>being absorbed in work (60+ hour work weeks between two jobs)
>taking testosterine

All of this did literally fucking nothing towards my gender dysphoria, none of that removed it even one percent, and many of those just made me hate myself more.

>taking female hormones
>laser hair removal
>skin care
>hair care
>wearing the clothes I want
>speaking and acting how I want
Each one of those had a tremendous positive effect on my life. There is no substitute for being the person you want to be.

You have absolutely no understanding of gender dysphoria because it's entirely outside of the scope of your experience.

>>35249482
>unlicensed christian conversion therapy
what was this like?

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>>35249131
Imagine that you feel disgust when you look at your penis, imagine that seeing your own reflection makes you feel ashamed and sad. Even something like body and facial hair, you hate the way it looks and the way it feels, like so much of it shouldn't be there.

And if youve ever been around girls, you can tell that they smell different than boys. Their odor is completely different.

Then imagine that you are disgusted by yourself when you sweat and your body starts to smell, and its not a, wow i'm dirty I need to wash but a, this isn't right I shouldnt smell this way its wrong and you feel like puking everywhere.

Then you look at porn and you try to self insert as the guy and it just feels really weird, you keep masturbating and you either get tired or just quit. Then you try self inserting as the girl and you're able to orgasm no problem. The closest thing I can compare it to would be looking at gay porn if you were straight and trying to masturbate, while trying really hard to cum and your body just isn't responding like a normal body should.

Then when you watch tv and guys ogle girls you aren't, you are thinking about her clothes or her hair or shoes looking too slutty.

And you hate boy clothes, they are made to be bland and no one cares, then you see girls wearing their clothes and doing their nails and while its all really impractical and you know something like a dress is just to look pretty, but jeans a shirt are durable and warm. You can't help but want the dress because it doesn't make your stomach feel like its in knots.

And the acceptance, by everyone you know and could ever meet that you know you can't have.

Then you hate yourself because you have these thoughts and feelings and just want to be normal and have tried being normal but its really hard. Sometimes when you're alone just wearing panties because you can trick yourself if only a little and its stupid but it makes you want to die a little less.

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>>35249516
nobody will understand us friend
we will hurt and suffer and never be happy
there is no salvation for us

>>35249507
pretty much pic related.
pray and zap the gay away

>>35249409
They're too stupid to see how stupid they truly are. No really, I've had some irl trannies tell me that they're born trannies, then in the next breath say gender is fluid, and I just look at them and they clearly don't see what's so retarded about what they said. I've brought up the whole conforming to gender stereotypes also, and they literally just ignore it and say that you can't speak over a tranny.

>>35249449
I know it sounds edgy, but I'm patiently waiting for the day they start killing themselves by the thousands. The whole gay agenda was overblown, it was removing stigmas from a sexuality, but the tranny agenda is fucking ridiculous and needs to be stopped

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>>35249536
forgot the pic, fug.

>>35249516
>>35249532
that's sad. but there really isn't a way to win, is there? It can only end in suicide or sex work.

did you at least move to a tranny friendly hippy city?

>>35249241
>If I don't understand how it feel it's not real!
Really?

>>35249507
Imagine if a bunch of people (10-15) from /r9k/ who had no understanding of gender dysphoria (or even basic psychology) or treating it were allowed to come together and decide to experiment on a person to get rid of it, anything goes.

It varied from "just be urself" "ur not trans, ur gay. now that u kno you can stop being gay" all the way to horrible physical torture (watching gay porn in a clockwork orange type setting and they shove their hand down your mouth to make you vomit during each scene so that you'll hate gay porn)

>>35249558
well that anon didn't explain it worth shit. the anon a couple posts above did a pretty good job.

>>35249482
>Didn't take anti-psychosis medication

See, you didn't try everything and, like all trannies, I'm pretty sure you half-assd trying to deal with it and went straight to being a freak show

>>35249566
>(watching gay porn in a clockwork orange type setting and they shove their hand down your mouth to make you vomit during each scene so that you'll hate gay porn)
jesus christ. did they make you pay for this too?

>>35249131
it's because their life sucks and they think things will be better if they were a girl

even though trannies are not girls and they're mostly just hated or fetishesed

>>35249591
Anti-psychotics are not effective in treating gender dysphoria.

Only one case in history has ever been shown to treat gender dysphoria, and it's widely believed that that individual didn't actually have dysphoria to begin with. It has never been repeated and there is zero evidence to suggest it works as a cure.

>>35249482
Did you try medication that schizophrenics take? Likely not.

>>35249609
My mom was happy to pay for it, of course

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>>35249641
What do you say to the ones that have felt this way ever since they were 5 or 6? Ever since I can remember i've thought girls clothes were just better, and when I was a kid I wanted to wear girls clothes.

Being told that boys don't wear those clothes.

And then watching cartoons, sure there were good shows that were good regardless of the genders in them, but always watching kim possible and thinking about being her even though you weren't anything like her and didn't have red hair. And totally spies was pretty cool too.

There were a lot of shows that only had 1 female lead and they were usually so weak and you want to be them but usually they always had to rely on someone else. Then you get to thinking about all of this and realize its wrong even as a kid and that you shouldn't be watching these shows for girls and that in shows like teen titans you shouldn't be thinking about being an alien princess but imagining being a cool guy who can turn into animals.

There's just so much shit, that I can't possibly tell you everything. It's not always at the front of my mind and I don't focus on these thoughts that often and I am able to dismiss them a lot easier than I was able to when I was a child.

But there is just so much double think where i've tried to correct myself and no matter how many times it doesn't help.

I don't think that anything on the outside will be better, I know everyone in this world hates something that's different and would rather things be the same as what is familiar to them.

Someone wanting to transition is alien and you are treated like a freak.

On the inside though I feel like I was supposed to be a girl and i'm just being a boy so everyone else can be happy. I remind myself that everyone does things so the people can be happy and I try to think of it as just one more thing.

And then you see celebrity tv shows where they argue about the final straw on their nerves being who is taking out the trash.

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WHY ARE THERE SO MANY FUCKING TRANNIES ON THIS BOARD FUCK OFF

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>>35250003
so the people around them can be happy*

i'm sorry for the mis-types and I know that i'm probably just getting baited and memed. If you guys want to talk about anything else i'm glad to.

>>35249591
>>35249657
>>35249665
Not the one you are replying to but I have also tried all kinds of anti-depressants. I'm sure at least a few of those were anti-psychotics.

Some of them made me feel worse. I cried a lot. Some made me feel nothing at all and everything tasted terrible and it was like all the flavor had been sucked out of everything and it was stale, that was for 2 of them and in addition those 2 and so many others made me feel nothing.

I wasn't happy, about anything. Although some of them also made me less sad, some of them did nothing for the sadness and I just felt terrible.

There were admittedly some that made me just feel like something soul-less. While I didn't really feel sad, I also felt no happiness and everything was boring. It felt like all I did was what was necessary for that day then I would just flip through pages in books or start games and stop after 10 minutes because I wasnt engaged in anything. All of my life felt pointless and I didn't feel like crying but I wanted to feel something. I slapped myself a bunch and my heart rate increased but I didn't feel sad or angry or happy. I just felt alert and then afterwards I felt really tired.

I feel like talking about anti-psychotics and drugs are pointless though because there are so many and pharmaceutical companies always come out with new ones after awhile that people try to push. So you just go from one fog of sedation to the next.

I quit taking everything and weened myself off after I did the slapping thing because I wanted to feel anything, and if I had to cry to be happy then it was worth it, but living on those drugs wasn't worth it.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who swear by them but for me, I needed to feel like I was alive.

>>35249566
This same clockwork orange setting what happens if after watching gay porn a bunch of sissy would come out and put makeup on them and then suck them off? It would make them want to start HRT it sounds hot to me.

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>>35250259
Also I think at least some of those drugs were for people who were already mega depressed, and their body was really messed up and they felt no happiness about anything already.So taking those drugs simply would remove that pain and sadness, and would let them kinda get back to a starting point that was manageable, so they could remove that pain and feel happiness when they came off of it.

Also I guess there are people out there who need these drugs and the only thing wrong with them is that their body is really fucked up and this corrects it somehow.

This is all just from my personal experience and I cannot recommend anyone take SSRIs or similar things unless you are just shy of killing yourself.

There is also a lot of literature on how SSRIs fuck up your brain big time even after your off though...So there's just a warning there, but if someone is already that low then it will help more than it could hurt at least in the short term.

>>35250049
because some robots are broken.

>/r9k/ existed for years sans some down time
>flooded with traps and tranies only in the past couple years, as they enter the cultural mainstream

Really makes me think. Yeah I'm sure you've all be suffering from gender dysphoria for so long. I've met a lot of trannies online and I can only say with absolute certainty that ONE had actual gender dysphoria and she wants to be FtM. The rest are just repressed masculinity, mentally ill gays.

>>35250049
because it's fashionable and because self-isolating depressives will clutch at any straw to escape from their misery

this somewhat explains the suicide rate for post-op trans people remaining just as high as pre-op

because their perceived gender dysphoria is simply that; 'perceived'

and in most cases, an adoption of a identity that makes them feel that they have a reason for feeling so disaffected

>>35248288
>actively seeking out gender dysphoria

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>>35250648
At the end of the day if you use that circular logic then nobody has any problems they just have things that they "perceive" to be problems.

You are literally the worst kind of person to give any sort of advice in this. You don't have a clue about what you are saying, and act as if everyone is some tumblr or reddit boogieman only after those uniqueness points.

>>35250588
What criteria did you friend meet that shes the only one to be legitimate and all the others are just fucked up by in a different way that isn't dysphoria? Genuinely interested, if you have a lot of knowledge about this I want to know why you think one person is legit while another's fake.

>>35251423
> You are literally the worst kind of person to give any sort of advice in this. You don't have a clue about what you are saying,

you have literally no idea what you are talking about since you have literally no idea of my credentials in developmental science nor counselling teens with gender confusion so perhaps you should shush while the grown ups are talking

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>>35251722
Yeah sure you do. I'm sure your credentials and counseling taught you such one sided BS too. I guess they threw in the logical fallacies for free right?

Maybe you should do a little more research before you try larping as a profession you have no clue about.

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>>35251821
did you mean to say 'larping as a professional' or 'larping at a profession'?

also this isn't larping, 4chan is an mmo

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>>35251876
Thats a large doggo.

Also you know what I meant, are you sure you aren't just some angry english teacher that wants to lash out at everyone? Back in my highschool there were a few english teachers who seemed to hate everything for no good reason. Perhaps raising your trolling level on the 4chan mmo is what you do to blow off steam, of course that's only when you aren't giving teenagers detention for yawning while you lecture.

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>>35252071
your conjecture on my career only serves to prove the point that you have 'literally' no idea about my experience nor abilities

i'm sorry anon, but if this is how you formulate all your argumentation, then it's no wonder you harbor such illusions as gender-dysphoria being a rational frame of reference on which to build one's identity

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>>35252570
Well there's nothing else to do but say you're wrong and you never gave a reply to the fact you were using literally circular logic. Claiming its just perceived when you can apply that logic to literally any other mental disorder.

And your statement about pre-op and post-op suicide rates is just wrong

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885#s4

This is one of the biggest misquoted studies that those again SRS quote. However it was in the 70s and 80s and there are vastly superior treatments now. As well as the statement of

>"suggest that sex reassignment of transsexual persons improves quality of life and gender dysphoria. The limitation is of course that the treatment has not been assigned randomly and has not been carried out blindly."

Of course at the end it states that there should more follow up and additional care needs to be provided.

Meanwhile you have just made statements claiming that its just perceived dysphoria. How do you reach the conclusion that
>self isolating depressives will clutch at any straw to escape from their misery
what about the trans who had these feelings ever since they were a child? Or those who are popular and still have them?

Or do you just not include them because that doesn't fit your world view of
>only depressive loners that are hopeless want to be trans because its a grass is greener on the other side feeling and it gives a reason to their depression

I do believe that there are plenty of people on the internet that THINK they are trans are just in it for the fetish craziness which is absolutely nuts, and there are indeed probably a few that are depressive loners.

But anyone who has dealt with this for a long time will tell you it is an awful feeling, that even after trying everything it won't go away.

But why do you insist that all of the trans are all from one cause when that is clearly not the case.

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>>35253000
against SRS quote*