What are the most Alpha careers? What are the most beta ones?

Nothing more alpha than a farmer

>>35161156
Hunters and farmers.

>>35161122
Business, Law, Military, Law Enforcement, Stock Broker, Construction, Pilot, Pro Sport

>>35161181
Law enforcement is only alpha if you're a detective or something.

>>35161122
What about Pharmacist?

The obvious choice is mercenary.compsnies pay you six figures to protect them and their people

>>35161122
mfw soon to be accounting major

>>35161468
That would be beta my friend

>>35161634
Why not become a finance analyst instead?

>>35161517
Mercenary isn't the right word for that. That would be private security.

computer science is pretty beta
t. comp sci major

Chef
>Tops out at 150k maxxxx, unless they are also successful restauranteurs which is even more rare.
>Works insane hours, and is expected to not log many of them so they don't have too much overtime.
>Unless you work at an elite restaurant you make complete dogshit
>Until you make head chef you stuck slaving even harder making $14/hr, and are constantly berated by sous chefs and expediters.
>Literally in a kitchen all fuckin day.
>alpha
Lol

>>35161674
Because financial analysts have low job security, it's much more competative, work twice as hard, and don't necessarily make much more unless you're in certain positions. Not to mention it's extremely easy to transfer to an FA roll from accounting, the first part of the CFA is basically just FAR from the CPA exams. Sure if you're going to a great university and they have a well known finance or investment certificate program doing FA stuff if fine right out of school. But your average university's finance program is straight garbage, and generally much easier than the accounting program, a CPA is much more valuable that an BA in finance 99% of the time.

>>35161674
Fuck

At least I'll be a rich beta

>>35161122
Alpha: Military, Law Enforcement, Security (hands on security like loss prevention, bouncers, etc, not observe and report guards), Pilot, Race car driver, Astronaut, Firefighter, EMT, Stuntman, Football/hockey/soccer/rugby player, Construction worker, Miner, Deep sea fisherman

Beta: IT, Pharmaceutical, Retail, Food service, Teacher, Lawyer, Accountant, etc.

>>35161122
How is Military beta? Especially infantry. That would be the physically/mentally roughest job on the list.

>>35161902
I don't understand how being a pharmacist or accountant is beta at all. They make really good money, have insane job security, and don't take that much schooling. I think maybe generally those professions have more betas in them, but that just makes it easier to rise to the top. If you have any personality and are proficient at your work, you're guaranteed to kill it. I know a pharmacist who only works 9-5 5 days a week, makes 125k a year, doesn't do anything cuz all the pharm techs fill the scripts and he get's like 4 weeks vacation plus all sorts of bullshit holidays. They basically have bank hours, dude is basically a teller that makes 125k two years out of school.

Don't really understand how IT is beta.

I'm an HPC sysadmin for a supercomputer that organizations use to test fluid dynamics. I make 120k, lead a team, get a defined benefit pension plan because I'm in a gub'ment job.

>>35161122
>Chef
>Professor
>Alpha
Son there's nothing alpha about chefs and there's certainly nothing alpha about professors of IT, gender studies or a whole range of other fields.
I also wouldn't all Teachers or Military (Enlisted) beta.

You have to be trolling

Success is the determining factor.

Multi-millionaire pharmacist > some cop who takes his depression out on black people

>>35161122
How is law alpha?

>>35162004
That's reassuring. In my second year rn. I mean I'm posting on fucking /r9k/, I'm no alpha, but I think I've got the charm. Fingers crossed I too can be making 125k in a couple years

>>35162017
If this is true, then why are you here?

>>35161946
How the fuck in lawyer beta?

>>35161988
Not all the military is beta. If you're an officer or in the special forces, you're good. Most enlisted on the otherhand are a bunch of beta males who were too poor/dumb to go to college though, They're also the ones who get cheated on when they get deployed.

>>35162017
IT is beta as fuck go on leddit and see what 90% of them claim to do for a living

>>35161517
Can my army sergeant bf get that kind of jorb? He's currently working observe and report at a refinery for $16/hour.

>>35162075
>Takes a lot of schooling and dedication
>Makes a shit ton of money
>Have to be assertive (i.e. have an alpha personality) when you go to trial

>>35161122
>>35161122
>Vigilante hacker

Where do i rank?

>Ultimate Beta
>in Law School

Everyone thinks I'll fail as an attorney.

>>35162180
You're like Elliot from Mr.Robot so beta as fuck

>mfw IBM et al are making most business chads obsolete

>>35161122
>What are the most Alpha careers? What are the most beta ones
What makes a career alpha or beta? The income? The associated risk? Perceived value?

>>35161122
>Medical Doctor

Still a KV that can't get a girl to reply unless she's fat. Possibly might do okay if I didn't give up so easily.

I'd add engineer to alpha even though most guys that do it are beta.

>>35161122
>majored in finance and accounting
which career path do you think I chose?
accounting you retard. why are you reading this spoiler

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>>35162017
Other than the 120k/year part, this is any girl's pussy when you describe what you do for work.

>>35162233

Women don't care what anyone does for a living. I've hit on hundreds of girls and it's incredibly rare for them to ask anything about you at all.

>>35162088
I mean idk if it will help you be alpha, but if you take advantage of your situation and invest you money you'll have an extremely comfortable lifestyle and can basically get anything you want. Also the job security thing is key. Right now it's all gravy for a lot of people, but the market has been on an absolute tear. Pharmacists need to be there by law, there is no wiggle room you will always have a job. Good luck man, I hope you make it out there.

>>35162017
>120k a year
Fake and gag

>>35162004
>>35162017
Despite being lucrative, these are both careers for pasty nerd dads. Sorry. They may be high paying but no one gives a shit because they're so boring.

>>35162254
Yeah, the job doesn't matter (generally). It's the lifestyle that said job allows you to live.

>>35162254
This as long as you have nice shit, and appear to be interesting they could give 2 shits about what you actually do. It's literally all about appearances. Being good looking helps, having nice stuff sends you through the roof.

Alpha: Oil rig/oil fields, mining industry, boilermaker, asset protection manager, sales engineers, fisherman, pilot, aerospace engineer, officer rank (or equivalent) in military service

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I heard somewhere on the internet years ago (before high school even) that architecture was considered the sexiest profession by women

My campus had a new building built (building included our university's new 8 floor library, finished in 2012), the architect just walked into my economics lecture one day and interrupted the professor in the middle of a lecture, they chatted for a few minutes off-mic, the dude announced himself as the architect after a bit, asked the lecture hall "how do you like my building"

the girls were literally screaming after he asked that because this dude was also like a 6'2 9/10 natural fashionable Chad in his 30s. To be honest, I really like the building as well, having such a bigass library is awesome, I clapped

I looked into it and apparently architecture is extremely competitive and only like 1 out of 100 get to design the skyscrapers and really influential buildings, the rest get stuck designing cookie cutter suburb houses and 3f office buildings

>>35161122
>High School/Middle School Teacher
I'd say this depends. My male HS teachers had to be very alpha sometimes. My school was close to a bad neighborhood so there were lots of gang members, druggies and stuff in them. Basically they had to teach to groups of 40 students with half of them being high and/or violent as hell.

Some teachers could dominate the classroom effortlessly (or at least it seemed like that). I'd say that's pretty alpha.

>>35162310
>>35162327

90% of everything is race/age/height/face. What you do for a living is of minimal significance by comparison.

Women will date an alcoholic bum if he meets the age/height/race/face criteria. She just won't necessarily show him off to her family.

Field geologist is pretty alpha. You get to grow a beard and drink scotch and shit.

Also basically anything on the mechanical side of oil&gas, working on a rig basically requires you to be a huge muscles-for-brains chad.

>>35162353
>the girls were literally screaming after he asked that because this dude was also like a 6'2 9/10 natural fashionable Chad in his 30s. To be honest, I really like the building as well, having such a bigass library is awesome, I clapped

Do you honestly think the class would have had the same reaction if he had been a chubby asian guy? Come on man.

>>35162301
The fact that most people are boring in those fields makes it so much easier to stand out and be interesting. Any charisma you have you can instantly capitalize on. If you have a nice car, nice place, interesting hobbies, are fit, and take multiple exciting/international trips a year people won't give a shit that you have a "boring" job.

If you do something to impress others and not because you enjoy it, you're maximum beta.

>>35161122
Chef is beta.
> work long hours
> yelled at by customers
> running around in uncomfy conditions ( hot)
> paid like shit
> work weekends when the restaurant is open

It's no different to flipping burgers at a fast food place.

Only tv chef chads are alpha and that's a small percentage.

>>35162276
Thanks, and good luck to you as well anon

>>35162413
Yeah I see your point but you'll still only be "alpha" within your small sphere of influence. You'd be overlooked in a heartbeat over a charismatic Chad doctor or lawyer.

>>35162428
That's because there's no depth to cooking, so anyone can do it.

>>35162428
To be fair I don't think OP has ever had a job before, but it's fun to see what those people think the real world is like. The people who make the most money are the people that already had it. The most alpha job is any job you take when everything in your life is already taken care of. If you ever want to be really mad/jealous look up David de Rothschild. That's what real alpha looks like, if you have to get a job you've already lost.

Real Estate Developer is alpha as fuck

>>35162517
You make a good point. Anything is possible when you're born with a giant money cushion.

>>35162445
I think it's mainly on the person. If you have a job that can provide a certain type of lifestyle, it doesn't really matter what you do. I also think you underestimate accountants, we aren't talking about working at HnR block. Partners at big 4 firms make well over 500k a year without bonuses and are constantly traveling around the world working with the largest and most powerful corporations in the world. They have extreme influence and are globally recognized.

>>35162647
Well yeah, obviously the top 1% in just about any field will be considered cool. That's a tiny minority though.

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>>35162400
I''m just relating something that I personally witnessed. Dude was a good-looking French Canadian, to be sure

I'm sure if he was replaced by someone like I.M. Pei, he might not have gotten the screams (although 50% of the program is Chinese/Indian international students and 75% of the total class is female), but he would have gotten a standing ovation still

I don't know man. The guy who literally designed the building walked into the building and asked how we liked it. Maybe it was a unique moment.

>>35162171
Lol he needs to be trained

>>35162604
It's insane, and you don't even need that large of a cushion to have an awesome life. I always see this guy I went to HS with doing crazy stuff. Like traveling around the world, getting these "consulting" jobs that just seem like he goes to parties and types on a mac book. I always wondered how the fuck he could do all of this, and it never seemed like he came from money. Well I started working with estate planning for this company. It turns out not just the kid I knew, but his entire family all had trusts in their own name for low 7 figures. I mean like cousins, nephews, his mom and aunt, etc. Turns out his great grandfather and grandfather did extremely well and made all of these investment vehicles and self sustaining property management companies. If this guy doesn't work a day in his life he makes around 60k a year and has a free place to live in one of their building's as a "manager", and this is assuming the investments don't grow and he doesn't save a penny.

>>35162749
Kek. I.M. Pei has Wojak face. That's the expression he'd make standing next to that Chad architect hearing girls screaming.

>>35162685
It's not the top 1% though, the big four employs over 500,000 people. And then there are other international firms with similar acclaim. Source: used to work for one and I didn't even go to that good of a school.

The smallest client I worked with did $700mil in business a year and they were a subsidiary of a larger client. Not to mention when you're out of town you get a sweet expense budget to go to the nicest restaurants and get crazy expensive things on the company's dime. There's nothing more badass than handing over the company amex for a $2000 tab at a restaurant when you're 22 years old. I don't work there anymore because the hours got too much and I got a better offer in industry.

>>35162685
I'm just saying most people underestimate accounting. Generally the only accountants you would know are either not CPAs or just garbage at their job. Unless of course you have a super complicated tax return and are worth a bunch of money. Comparing the accountants that do 1040EZs at H&R block for 20 bucks a pop to actual accountants is like comparing someone who works at mccdonalds to the owner.

>>35163014
I guess it's just not seen as a "glamorous" job by most people even if you are doing accounting work for multibillion dollar corporations.

>>35162749
>I don't know man. The guy who literally designed the building walked into the building and asked how we liked it. Maybe it was a unique moment.

He was a Chad bragging about his accomplishment. Women will congratulate Chads no matter what they do. He could have said "I installed those chairs you're sitting on, how do you like them?" and people would have cheered.

>>35163157
Basically this and it sucks so much but it's true. Good looking people will always be given more credit than they deserve.

>>35163074
I just know what I've seen, everyone says this, but then I look at the people in my field and they're fucking killing it. Just because it doesn't seem glamorous to you and people around you doesn't mean it isn't. Not to mention the work that is done at these companies in not really what people think is accounting. Bookkeep is performed by internal staff. The public firms do auditing and consulting. So again I think you just aren't familiar with this type of accounting. Most people would consider it corporate finance or consulting work, but it is technically accounting, that is the skill set. We're not writing doing bank recs and balancing check books. We're the people you call when a merger is being conducted, or when a company IPOs.

>>35163255
It's a good field for sure. It just doesn't have that surface level cool factor of being a doctor or something since people outside your field have no idea what you actually do.

>>35163255
Also I guess I shouldn't say we anymore, I moved to an fpna roll at one of our clients. So basically that, at my old company i was an accountant, but at the company I work for I do corporate financial planning and analysis. So my title is a financial strategist, but it's still basically an accounting job, just a different goal.

Alpha - Top 1%
Beta - Above average wage

>>35163320
But that's what I'm saying the crowd I work in does know what I do. I work with private equity groups, business consultants, valuation specialist, and a lot of lawyer for acquisition due diligence. The people who know what we do are the cream of the crop. To laymen and normal people sure they might not understand, but any high performing professional would.

All those alpha jobs are for people who have literally no time for anything else.

I've seen way more pasty white doctors and professors than accountants or pharmacists.

>>35162132
>Most enlisted on the otherhand are a bunch of beta males who were too poor/dumb to go to college though, They're also the ones who get cheated on when they get deployed.

can confirm, most people in the military that i know got cheated on if they went in with gf, but we were conscripted so there really wasnt much avoiding it, although here they do health checks and i have no clue how i was allowed in the army due to my noodle tier malnutrition body, but most of the guys were both alpha and also got cheated on

t. polish army conscript

>>35163320
One more thing, if you look up most financial consulting and analysis rolls, many require a CPA and/or big 4 experience. My whole point is that people don't actually know what accountants do. You can call yourself any fancy title you want, but at the end of the day they're most likely accountants, or they're STEM and do data analytics.

>>35163369
True alpha is being in a respected field while being good looking enough that you could be an actor playing the role of your job.

>>35161122
>Accounting
>Betaa
I guess you haven't met many accountants. Stop watching Hollywood movies. Accountants are total Alphas and Chads IRL.

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>>35163487
We literally just had a movie about a badass autistic Chad accountant come out last year, retard.

>>35163505
One move.

Orignal

>>35162004
>accountant
>robots
>job security

Alpha: Neetbux

No greater feeling in the world being a neet on neetbux and having all the time in the world to pursue your interests. It's like having UBI. Sure, you won't be able to afford to live alone, but who cares? You don't need all that space anyways. Living alone is a jew meme.

>>35163591
As a robot I find job security extremely important. I have no safety net, I have no close friends, and my family hates me. If shit hits the fan, I'm fucked. plain and simple. I'd love to chill at home and earn GB points and max on tendies all day, but unfortunately I actually have to work otherwise I'll be out on the streets.

>>35163437
Probably because you are from a shit poor eastern European country that will send any retard who can hold a rifle into battle as cannon fodder.

>>35163773
if im honest we were conscripted at a time where not much was happening, i was sent to kosovo as a lot of other south poles were but we didnt do anything

pretty much just sent us there to the government could say they were helping when really i only shot my gun once and that was accidental

poland is shit poor too, when they ended conscription it only got worse for people and i had to go back to my little turnip farm on the outskirts of krakow

>>35161195
>tfw going into law enforcement career
Where would you rate federal?