Have you ever done this? how did it feel?

Seems like a logical think to do , stop being beta slaves and bitch about it.

Yeah, don't let someone use you like that. It's BS.

I just cut off all ties to this chick that did nothing but make me feel awful over and over again, and I knew that she thought she could drag me along with the perpetual promise of pussy (and she was right...for a while). If they are really using you like that, fuck them. Don't let them do that to you. Move on.

>>35069479
The thing is you dont reason with woman. They wont get it. Just write "no".

>>35069479
yeah i did this once
she called me at 4 in the morning, asking if i could pick her and a friend up from a festival and drive them home

first time i said no if she asked me something
she started bitching and yelling on the phone

but found another beta who came pick them up
after that the new beta provided her with food, money and rides

i havent heard a single from her till now, that was 9 months ago

before that she was messaging me almost daily

Arent u worries u wont have a chance to laid now?

>>35069684
You broke free from orbit, good job robro

>>35069479
What was her message beforehand?

>>35069717
>implying any of us have a chance and don't just get taken advantage of for favors

Besides, doing favors or "being nice" doesn't get you laid anyways

>>35069744

I asked her when we were going to hang out again, and she said "after you buy a ticket"

we've been friends a few months. shes kinda a druggie, and im basically straight edge, but I went with her to a rave last month because she had no one to go with. it was alright, and I really wouldn't have much of a problem going again, I just don't want to be a 'go-to yesman' any more...

I don't really have any intentions on fucking her any more. shes kinda gross, and sleeps with a bunch of other guys. I just wish she would be an actual friend sometimes, and not just resort to me when she has no other plans.

>>35069833
Yeeeah not sure why you clinged to her. Festival sluts are just dirty. And friends a few months? She quite literally seems like she just wants you to orbit her

>>35069740

>broke from the orbit
>writing long rationalizations for why you won't do something

Pick one.
If he broke from orbit he just wouldn't respond.
He wrote this because he's begging for a reply. He wants an argument with her b/c he wants it to resolve into contact. He's still orbiting her just in counter-orbit direction. Also she totally understands this, knows what he is doing, and doubtlessly manipulated him into doing what she wanted regardless.

>>35069479
Not as good as promising to take them, and then never showing up and turning off your phone for the evening.

>>35069930
writing out a long ultimatum to an orbit is not a bad thing...
you basically tell her that you are fully aware that she is using you, and if things don't change, then you are done following her around. if anything, you are fine with getting no response. and it feels good to tell someone off who has been taking advantage of you.

>>35069833
She probably doesn't go right to you for a rave buddy because you are "pretty much straight edge", and your type can be a downer.
She literally said "buy a ticket", it didn't sound like she wanted you to buy her ticket. You fucking sperg.

>>35069969

Ultimatums are the most beta act possible.

>if things don't change

EXACTLY, supersperg.
He's trying to change her behavior. He's orbiting STILL because he has hope she will change and accept him.
Do you think she even sees it on the same level as him? He writes this self-righteous ultimatum, she literally lols and doesn't give a fuck, and then he probably writes an apology the next day.

>look, I know last night I....

Utterly retarded. If you guys weren't orbiting, you'd just not try at all. But you are still trying because you think this is a strategy that is going to work.

>>35069833
we are your only friends

>>35069979
I know she doesnt want me to buy her ticket, but she wants a DD so she can get fucked up at the rave.

she spends all her time with a few other guys, sleeping around with them, and only calls me when she gets upset about them. Thats why I say if I am her lowest priority, why should I make her my highest...

>>35070033

Just cut her off you idiot.
She's never going to be your girlfriend because you already have beta-stink on you.
Just get yourself in shape and find a new girl.

>>35070033
You're her piggy bank, lol. Listen to >>35070047

>>35069554
This, i cant even reason with my mother, i doubt I can have a discussion with any othet woman

I wish I had the chance to put a dumb roastie in her place but I have no way of ever being in such a situation

>>35070047
I don't want to date her, even if she wanted to, I wouldn't sleep with her... It's nice to just have a female friends to hang out with and talk to from time to time. but when the guys she sleeps with turn her down, she expects me to pick her up.

>>35070033
And her response was?

>>35070075
Okay... So why rant to her in a beta text giving the impression you want to date her?

She could've asked you for a ride, you say no, talk to her the next day.

>>35070075

>it's just nice to have a female friend

CUT HER OFF, IDIOT.
She's not your fucking friend.
I'm seriously trying to help you out here and you're basically being a retard.
If you don't do what I say, you will remember this in a couple years and regret it wasting your time with this bitch.

>>35070078
no response. I don't really expect one, because she knows I am right

>>35070033
Yeah, that's what friends do? If you don't like hanging out with her, stop hanging out with her. It's that simple.

>>35070102

She didn't reply b/c she doesn't fucking care, not because "she knows you're right"

>>35070102
So she doesn't even care enough to reply. That's not very adult or a very good friend. In her mind right now is "ugh whatever," she won't talk to you for X amount of time, then out of the blue she'll talk to you when she hopes you forget

>>35069979

you're fucking retarded, she is clearly just looking to use him. Wether she asked him to buy her a ticket or buy one for himself, she is benefiting off it in the end as she gets a free driver and beta during the party to help her out if she needs something. Cucks like you are the reason why women get away with shit like this.

>>35070102
It's not because she knows you are right. She already knew all of that shit. She can't use you, so she's moving on.

She's a user. If you are ok with the sense of camaraderie in exchange for being used, that's fine. It's your life. But if you aren't willing to be used, she's not going to be willing to spend time with you.

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>>35070102

most woman have overinflated egos and will never admit when they are wrong, even when they objectively are.

you are a wallet for her, cut her out of your life if she does not apologise and give you some time of day back.

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>>35070102
lot of anons hatin on you OP, i suspect they be roasties, dont listen to them. you did good, now move on with out her

>>35070102
You wont get one either.
I had a fight with a girl that I was friends with for 2 years and she refuses to respond to my messages that i sent trying to clear things up
DO NOT MAKES FRIENDS WITH GIRLS
USE THEM AS PRACTICE FOR TALKING WITH GIRLS BUT DO.NOT.BEFREIND.THEM

>>35070183
Hardly a friend if they can't be adult enough to reply to you. Or you were a super autist and she wanted it cut off, but either way.

>>35070143
>cucks like you
Nah nigga, cucks like you are why it's easy to be friends with girls. Friendship isn't a chess game, you spend time around the people that are fun to be around. Period.

>>35070196
>Or you were a super autist and she wanted it cut off
She agreed to go on a date with me and then a week later friend zoned me out of the blue.
I did send some classic /r9k/ tier autism that got her to block me for a few days

>>35070242

Like most robots, you appear to be a masochist and revel in your own hopelessness.
Enjoy.

>>35070242
Not out of the blue nigga. She probably didn't want the date to begin with, she just gave it a "uh o-okay" to try and appease you. Then between then and the date she realised what's the point if she doesn't want to actually date you.

>>35070204

Ok my man, go be "friends" with girls who expect you to pay out of your own wallet just to be her personal driver and bring her home at 4 in the morning because the other beta she keeps around isnt answering right now. Im sure it will work out well for you.

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>>35069479
>writing out a lengthy putdown

Brevity > everything

>>35070273
She was actually pretty responsive to going.

It seems like no one here has ever had a genuine female friend that they had no intention of hooking up with.

You know, it is possible to be around a vagina without thinking about it. You can do nice things for someone without expecting to get sex out of it.

>>35070289
Its totally different when girls lead you on though.

>>35070289
Speak for yourself nu-bot

>>35070274
>don't always be the driver
>go dutch
>have fun without expecting anything back
II treat my female friends exactly like I treat myale friends. Wtf universe are you from?

>>35070338
Your pathetic flawed logic its what keeps the wheel spining.In your eyes you are doing a favor, in her eyes you are the cab.The mere fact that she ask you for it empowers her.You, lap dog, obey

>>35070338
>go dutch
you are hopelessly naive

>>35070289
I wouldn't buy a male friend a $70 ticket for nothing in return either, you fucking orbiter retard

>>35070365
Wtf are you even on about? She asks me for what?

>>35070388
ffs did you even read the thread? she wants me to buy my own ticket so I can drive and go with her, since none of her other friends want to go...

>>35070376
You don't go Dutch where you live?

>>35070388
Waste of dubs. Retard.

>>35069479
Post response lad

>>35070376
You're retarded, any girl who is actually worth your time and not a high maintenance whore will split things with you.

>>35070388

>This

Why would a true friend ask you to go somewhere you dont like or to wake up, get out of you home in the middle of the night and act as her personal ride.

Wake up motherfucker, WAKE UP, you are the reason that keep women entitled, fucking pieces of shit.No surprise nice guys end out of the gene pool

>>35070439
Besides that, friends split tabs. It's etiquette. Or atleast cover the top. Or switch buying rounds.

>>35070440
You sad. Sorry.

Yes.

It meant that now I have zero friends and am even lonelier than before.

Seeing it from another perspective, she had absolutely no reason to even acknowledge my existence and yet she did for whatever reason and that did actually make me feel better.

So yeah, didn't go well.

All this talk about orbiting. My ex had an orbiter. A classic nice guy. Anyway, she said she had him around as backup and I broke up with her then and there. I hope he did get with her. Like I said, he was a nice guy. He deserved a decent life. There again, she was a dependent bitch but he was used to that anyway since he was her go-to whenever we fought or whatever. I was pretty much a drunk piece of shit that guys say 'He's not good enough for you' about. And then I left her. Too bad so sad roastie. This is what feminism gets you: obesity, abandonment, no prospects and cats.

>>35070167
fuck you, now I have to go out and buy peanut butter

>>35070492
Having no friends is better than having friends who don't care about you.

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>>35070183
I've had an experience like this. I talked to this girl online for a while sharing nudes and whatnot then out of the blue she stops replying and after like a few months she messages me asking why i don't talk to her...even though on every platform i talked to her on she left me on seen or something similar. Then she had the audacity to say something like "sorry I'm a bitch but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't message me." I want to say i ended things with her there but i love her nudes. I'd share them but they were from snapchat or on Skype

>>35070578

SO take a screen shot or something you idiot.

>giving enough of a shit to write paragraphs

No is a complete sentence, you don't need to justify shit when someone is taking advantage of you.

>>35070592
Blame my autism not me

>>35069479
i don't get it. what's the point of writing all that out? just say no.

>>35070547
Based anon is based.Did she went on detail about how much of an orbiter he was? Did you laughed together? Ive always wanted to know why they do this without remorse but never asked cuz triggeralert

>>35069479
Too many words. "No, fuck off." would suffice.

>>35070627
That's an excuse. I should preface this by saying that I personally have no interest in her nudes - this website is absolutely full of porn so some mediocre roastie is by the by - but for your own sake you need to take back some control. She treated you like shit, and she needs to pay.

>>35070650
No, she played up to my insecurity. He was always around, and I had expressed concern about it. Normally she said
>Oh no, I don't think about him that way, he's a good friend
etc.
On this occasion though, we were fighting and she said something like
>You think you're so special? I know _____ is interested so if you ever left he'd be with me in a heartbeat
Obviously, this did not have the desired effect because I felt like a burden had been lifted and I did not have to deal with her shit anymore. I no longer felt any obligation to her.

>>35070708
I basically just talk to her when I'm looking to fap or something now so it's all good

>>35070708
Freaking knew it! I wasnt so sure if they are conciouss about it but as I suspected, they have no fucking empathy at all.Its not just your case, I see this pattern all the time irl but only as an outsider.I was close to orbit a whore once but I managed to eject in time.She was kinda lost, thought she had me on her claws and suddenly I disappeared lol

>>35070757
That's also an excuse. You're afraid. You feel subordinate to her. Your lack of self-confidence is reinformcing itself. It would improve your sense of belief in yourself and the amount of control you have over your life.

>>35070863
There can be no question that they're fully cognizant of what is going on. I'd encourage everyone to watch this video. It's a number of interviews conducted with men and women at a university campus about whether friendship is really plausible between the sexes. It will probably activate your almonds senpaitachi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA

PS - They do understand emotions. That's their greatest weapon. They have empathy. They know how something will affect a person emotionally, and they use that in order to control and manipulate.

>>35070075
girls and boys can't be friends retard

>>35071032
Yeah they can. I have a number of female friends.

>>35071049
he means that he doesnt know how to be friends with a girl without sperging out

>>35071057
Aaaah, that makes more sense. Girls are the easiest type of person the be friends with.

>>35071049
t. aspie who secretly want to fuck them
the primary purpose of girl boy interaction is sex

>>35071081
People accumulate other people over time. Not every accumulated human I want to bang. Some I just want to get drunk and watch b movies with or go watch shitty punk bands together or even just meet for lunch cause were both free. You'd fuck a pillow anon. Don't try to saddle me with your simple understanding of ppl.

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>>35070969
Dis triggers the man

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>>35069717
dont kid yourself, she wouldn't treat you like that if you had a chance in the first place

>>35071079
>Girls are the easiest type of person the be friends with.
How so?

>>35071208
If you're a guy, there's no jockeying for a spot in the hierarchy. It's a less competitive vibe. It's easier to be open without feeling faggy. There's less pressure. It's just easier.

>hey wanna go to this event with me
>"omg you don't care about me, you're just using me"

Is it so fucking hard to say "nah i'm good" or if you actually wanna hook up with her "only if i get to show you my room afterwards".

>>35069554
this. any wall of text is an "emotional investment" to them, and they will turn it around to make you look like a bitter loser and every white knight will be on their side. simple, direct chad answers like "no" or "why should I do that?" or "what's in it for me?" will do the trick and she will start respecting you.

>>35069479

You're acting like a little bitch.

Just say "no", and the suggest what kind of activities you might be interested in participating with her, if you are.

>>35071177
What does this photo mean? origigf

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>>35069479
Man, I used to act this way, send long emotional texts saying how they were in the wrong, hoping they would finally see the errors of their way, and let me tell you, it's completely pointless. They will never understand, and they will never feel guilty for what they have done. Just say from now on "no thanks" or even ignore. Never send texts or messages when you're angry or emotional. The worst you can do to someone is ignore them.

>>35070289
I have 2
One is a lesbian and the other is pretty much a nun. They're the only girls I can have decent conversations without wanting to blow my brains off

>>35071774
Iktf bro, I ignored your mum and she went mental

>>35070289

I have one. This shy girl who had a huge crush on me. She is actually a real qt but I was orbiting my oneitis during those times. She seemed like a genuinely interesting person so instead of dating I friendzoned her immediately. She was totally ok with it. She turned out to be a normie but at least she reads and also watches anime. We hanged out a lot, watched movies at the cinema, before she headed off to college. We still keep in touch. We skype during weekends and I'm basically her confidant and asks me for advice because I'm a couple years older. We're like besties.

It's quite comfy to have a female friend.

Also, she let me take her virginity.

I agree with everyone on this thread. Tell that bitch about the exciting opportunity that Greyhound buses represent for her, and get on with your life.

>>35070554
At least you can, they don't sell it in my shitty country/region/city.

>>35070969
You're right, so what should i do? Just stop replying to her?

>>35070289
Regardless of what this says about me (or men in general) I can only really have a purely platonic relationship with a woman is if I'm not physically attracted to them. I would fuck the majority of my good female friends at the drop of a hat if they asked, and it's always in the back of my mind. However, the more I get to know them the attraction seems to diminish somewhat due to the fact the flaws I overlooked when I was smitten (to a degree) are harder to ignore. With people I find unattractive there's no awkward first stage. In the same way, these people are often nicer as well, since they aren't treated like princesses all their lives, they're human.

tl;dr I'm a horny bastard

>>35071049

Man and women can only be friends if they know each other from childhood and even then, the woman usually cuts contact with their male friend once they get their first adult relationship.