Were women happier in the past?

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Femanons.

FEMANONS!

READ THIS!

READ IT AND TELL ME YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THE STATE OF AFFAIRS OF 21ST CENTURY "GENDER RELATIONS"!

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Is this your idea of happiness? Constantly being compared to girls who look like this, who you know you can't compete with physically?

>>35030117
She's so beautiful. I want to kill myself.

>>35030117
My boyfriend is possessive and still obsessed with me after 5+ years. I'm a 6/10 at best and uglier than all the other girls he's dated in the past. I'm not worried about competing.

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>>35030322
>I'm not worried about competing.

*blocks your path*

>>35029936
statistics don't lie women were much happier under the authority of males.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXeszLlTX5E

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap

http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/26/opinion/26douthat.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1189894/Women-happy-years-ago-.html

>>35029936

Yes and the statistics are there if you care to look for them.

When a woman hits her 30s that's pretty much it for her beauty.

I couldn't imagine staying with a woman in her 30s.

I despise all of you. I'll never love a man.

>>35030599
pls be my significant other

>>35030492
Eh, it's better to have autonomy than to be shoehorned into one role. There's nothing wrong with being a house wife and mother, it's a lovely thing, but not for everyone.

>>35030681
Most people just take what is put in front of them.

The whole notion of individualism is stupid because it ignores that 90% of people, most of us included, are just mediocre followers.

>>35030322
You're kidding yourself. He looks at and desires other women more than you.

>>35030696
Maybe, but the 10% of leaders maintain a society that allows them to set their own course in life.

It's not particularly hard to be a follower; you join a church and settle down with a wholesome women to care for the family and you'll financially support, and you're good to go. Most of those positives you listed can be found in Catholicism.

>men were expected to commit

for a very long time the catholic church was the arbiter of who could get their marriage annuled. Do you know what wasn't grounds? The infidelity of the husband.

Men have always been adulterous whores throughout history, and they have always gotten passes for their degeneracy

>>35030599

We despise you too roast.

>>35030781
Women could estrange, even if they didn't divorce. They'd just go and live with their dad/brother/etc with their children. Look at Lord Byron's wife.

And you shouldn't DESTROY a family over a cheating.

>>35030928
But men could have their marriages annuled if their wife cheated.

And yeah, they can just estrange and live out life alone because their degenerate husband couldn't control his cock. That's totally fair, no double standards here.

>>35030322
>>35030732
sorry but its true, get into squatting.

be afraid, because you should be afraid

>>35030928
>And you shouldn't DESTROY a family over a cheating

You'd probably feel differently about it if your wife cheated on you

Don't want to fuck up your family? Don't cheat

>>35030599
>implying you would commit anyway

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>>35029936
Females are never happy. They are a bottomless pit.

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>>35030928
remember people its not men v women
its cheaters v non-cheaters

we are on the same side dont let a dick or flaps change that

>>35031106
Women are more likely to cheat because its just so easy, with men its literally impossible only 40% of men even get to reproduce

>>35031201
citation needed and also irrelevant

To the fembots ITT:

There were actually standards, strict standards for philandering men - Men who got women pregnant and fucked off were literally ran out of town, their names were plastered to the church door as a source of shame. There were stricter standards, at least as far as social mores go, for men who beat their wives too (now it's a legal issue, back then men who did it were subject to vigilante violence to keep them in line).

>>35031148
Nope. That doesn't leave a children without a mother and father figure together.

>>35031106
Yeah. Men had more rights. But with those rights came greater responsibilities. Responsibility to provide. To be a family man. To serve in the military. Etc.

>>35031201
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/07/wives-cheating-vs-men/313704/

According to this study women cheat 70% as much as men do.

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>>35029936
>Married women are happier across the board compared to single women.
>Stay at home mothers have the highest job satisfaction of women in any field
.................................
>Women have been growing less happy every year for at least 45 years
Yes, women in the past were happier

I don't buy it OP. I think women now can have their cake and eat it too.

>Not pressured into one night stands
Modern women love being whores though
>Every woman could expect a husband and a family
She still can get some beta provider when she's off the cock carousel
>Could rely on kids looking after her as she grew old
Still can
>Nearly all women had fathers who loved them a lot
Nu male cucks who love their daughter will encourage this behaviour
>Men were expected to commit
They still are, it's a double standard
>No unrealistic porn standards
Unrealistic standards are always there for both sexes. Women have it easier now though because of this stupid "all woman are beautiful" body positivity movement
>Maternal qualities were respected
I'll give you this one
>Women who tried to break up marriages (homewreckers) were dealt with harshly
They still are
>Supportive extended families more common
I guess
>It was considered acceptable for women to be a bit childish - in other words their usual selves
It's more encouraged now. Modern women can act however they want and aren't expected to deal with the consequences.

>women were happy when they got to stay at home and do fuck all while the men did all the labor and made the money they spent on useless shit like makeup
Wow who would have guessed

>>35030681
>Eh, it's better to have autonomy than to be shoehorned into one role
"one role"?
WTF are you talking about?
America had medical schools for female doctors before the Civil War; there were females lawyers, doctors, etc. in Europe in the 9th Century!
Women could *always* be professionals, scholars, etc.
The idea that before Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem got book deals in 1967 women could only be housewives or prostitutes is a complete myth. FFS, less than 50% of all mothers were stay-at-home moms in 1960!

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http://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/Women-Children-First/

That's how women used to be treated. With love and respect. But how can anyone love the porn whores of today? How can anyone love camwhoring fembots?

>>35031363
>>35031374
MRA/MGTOW spergs detected.

>>35031388
Yes. It's a lie that European/White women were Muslim-tier prior to the 20th century. It's simply not true at all. They always enjoyed comparative freedom.

>>35031363
Are you seriously calling fathers who love their daughters "nu male cucks"?

>>35031128
I'm not afraid. I'm attractive enough, I'm a good girlfriend, and more importantly I know his character. He's the one man I've dated that I really trust.

>tfw you realize that "Women's Studies" is a legit class

>>35030781
>The infidelity of the husband.
Infidelity of the *wife* wasn't grounds, either!
The cause of nullity must exist from the beginnings of the marriage,

>>35031433
He's a delusional MGTOW. I wouldn't put anything past them. They actually believe women are aware of their online "movement".

>>35031437
Allow him one slip up. Don't be one of these girls that destroys a years-long marriage because of a drunken mistake.

your daughter is a disgusting whore that sucked and fuck chads asshole and begged for him to cum in her mouth

>>35031471
He wouldn't allow "one slip up" from me and I wouldn't tolerate that from him. You'll understand when you're older, anon, if you let your SO cheat "just one time" it'll happen again, guaranteed. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Shitty people don't change.

>>35029936
you forgot the women in the past also grouped up and got alcohol banned (it was a womens issue at the time) because they wanted to control men. they didnt even have the vote at the time i think.

not to mention shaming men into fighting wars, even those that returned from fighting under medical leave, those disabled etc causing suicide and the deaths of man more men.

women were showing the same behaviours back then but we put up with it because we had more control overall now everythings equal and women havent changed at all maybe even gotten worst

>>35030052
This woman's actually pretty redpilled. She knows that as she ages her value drops and she could be the woman who gets cheated on. She should've done more to be a better person for when her looks inevitably fade

>>35031302
>that image

It's kind of dumb, because those are entirely different demographics. It's widely known that younger women like pretty boys, and older women like big hunk guys, though still with pretty faces.

I'm not siding with the artist, her comic is equally shitty and dumb, but the other image attached to it is meaningless.

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>>35031549
>tfw reading about that white feather shit
Women are just evil

>>35031549
>not to mention shaming men into fighting wars

You're just like the women who are afraid of their femininity. Men who are too cowardly to fight for their country are garbage mate. Same as women who claim to "hate children".

Fucking MGTOW faggot.

>>35031186
I appreciate this sentiment but how does one recognize a cheater before being cheated on?

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>>35031549
They gained all the privileges of men but retained the privileges of women. The great deception of feminism is that women are oppressed in every facet of life. They have numerous privileges, but they don't want to give these up even though they're about "equality."

>>35031575
>Being this retarded
The claim of the comic is that women have background sexual harassment ALL THE TIME because comic books have hot women in them.
No one mentions the thousands of hot men on bookshelves all over the place.
THAT is the point.

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>>35030052
This is why people (especially men) should be allowed to fornicate outside their relationships.

Carnal needs get met. Love, family, etc., can stand strong.

The only reasons I don't think it's a good idea for women to do the same thing is that they're most likely to get attached to the side piece(s) since they have a harder time separating sex and emotion.

I'm a good looking, fit, decently successful dude (just bear with me, making a point) and I would give my undying lifelong devotion to a woman who would allow me to blow off steam occasionally with other women. I'd take care of her to my fullest possible capability in every way as long as we're both alive, and she (the wife) wouldn't have to be super hot, make a ton of money, etc.

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>>35031653
Take a close look at the person.

If he/she resembles a human being, there's a good chance the person has, or will, cheat.

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>>35030599
Because you were only chasing Chads and since Chad doesn't want to dick you down, now you hate all men.

Fuck off you basic bitch, I don't even know what are you doing here, fucking roastie, go fucking jump off a cliff. Life is on easy mode when you have a vagina between your legs, go take advantage of it, slut! I come here to scape from people like you and you're here trying to invade my personal space, my comfort zone, the only place where I feel happy to be.

GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE STUPID WHORE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>35032126
>When you have good points, but express them with autistic screeching.

>>35031980
Then you find a girl who's going to be okay with your infidelity and live your life. Not all men are like you though. I've seen plenty of decent, trustworthy men who would never dream of cheating on a woman they promised to commit to.

I hope you have only daughters, you low empathy autist

>>35032268
>tfw genuinely wouldn't be able to trust myself around my daughters when they hit 14/16

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>>35032126
+1 this bloke

Fuck off Roastie none of us will ever love you either.

Now go ride the cock carousel until you're 30 and find a fucking beta provider that you so clearly deserve because of your disgusting beef curtains. Hopefully he can ignore your cunt thats been so destroyed by literally miles of dick or maybe youll get passed up again for a younger, prettier, less bitter and nicer model.

Because realistically all of you women are replaceable. Not a single one of you is unique.

>>35032268
If anything, I'm overly empathetic. But, as you pointed out, people are different, and I happen to believe monogamy doesn't work. Or at least, it doesn't for me.

>>35032126
>>35032286
Spotted the virgins

Seriously no women owns you shit you autistic losers. If she doesn't find you atttactive deal with it and move on instead of being a crybaby. Women are human beings too, not sex machines so why don't you losers go fap to your stupid animes or man the fuck up she doesn't own you shit cause you were nice to her
Sometimes I hate men too for this exactly reason

>>35032603
Secondfag here. Ive had multiple relationships and have completely just decided my time is better spent fucking around doing things I enjoy rather than cultivating a relationship with a fucking roast.

Costs far less too

Coming from a man so you might not care but I think it's important for young girls to know

If you ever want a husbando tier guy, you cannot be a slut. It might see like all guys like sluttiness because so many are interested in having sex with you, but that's as deep as their intentions go. They will fuck anybody who lets them.

Guys you would actually want to marry are not going to respect sluts and probably won't respect repentant former sluts either.

It's an unpopular truth

>>35031571
>redpilled
She's riding the cock carousel and by the time SHE hits the wall and puts on weight she's going to tell some guy about this and no one will want her. 9 cats and 50 years later she will die alone. How is not planning for the future redpilled? Hindsight is 20/20 everyone in her position would realize it that much later. But knowing it before is the true redpill

>>35029936
Women will always be happier under authority their natural superior, men.

The bigger question is why today's men have lost their authorities.

Watch the recent Roosh dog collar vid, then his one on educating cunts

Stulis cuck fathers are inflating their worthless daughter's self esteem when they should be giving her to me pre-puberty along with paying a hefty dowry to take care of the brat

European society has always been a barbaric fuckfest of women manipulating men for their amusement, profit, pleasure, comfort, and self-destructive tendencies including inducing violence in men.

>>35034249
Stupid*

>loving father
Emotionally abused weak dependant faggot

The greatest scam women pull is collectively withholding their affection and 'favour' as if that means anything

>>35034292
Good times breeds weak people. Perhaps we need another "bad" time to remind us of our authority as men?

>>35029936
Lol. Who gives a shit about women. Just chill the die broski

>>35031447
Why do you roast get so trigggered over shit no one mentioned?lol

I'm pretty happy.

Decent job, bottomless supply of penis, nice house, a dog, what's not to love?

>>35035294
So you admit that you sleep around.

>>35035749
Yes of course. That's what people do nowadays. You'll understand when you're older

>>35035779
And do you think the men you sleep with respect you on any level?

>>35035854
Dude she gets all the respect she needs from the doggo, what's your problem?

>>35035854
If they didn't respect me they wouldn't send so many pathetic texts all the time

>>35035894
They're thirsty for sex. They don't actually respect you.

Jesus woman you can't be this dumb.

>>35035936
I think you're thirsty for sex sweetie. And maybe a little bitter that you aren't getting it

>>35035962
I'm thirsty yup. But you're wrong in assuming I don't get any.

How many dudes have had you?

>>35035749
Yeah, sometimes.

Mostly I fuck the same dude until he gets good at it.

>>35035962
>Women talking down to guys and using "sweetie" or "honey" in this condescending tone
Makes me just want to hatefuck them.

>never had a one night stand
>loving boyfriend
>engaged to be married
>mother and father both love me
>small group of like minded friends

Why am I still so fucking miserable?

>>35036416
You can fantasize all you want but if even look at me inappropriately I can get you expelled. Sweetie ;)

>>35035962
Feels good to be gay and not have to deal with women tbqhwy. When you have no sexual desire for them they really do seem pointless. Feels Good Man

>>35036208
You need to be raped like a fish needs water.

>>35036656
Rape play doesn't do anything for me Anon.

>>35032283
pray your daughters become like me and start drinking/doing drugs at 14 so they don't achieve youthful beauty.

>>35032873
all girls know this, your advice is not revolutionary.

>>35036680
Lel you're clearly a man

>>35036451
>>engaged to be married
you're unhappy because you're falling for the marriage SHAM

>>35036759
If I were a dude wouldn't I be pro-rape?

>>35036855
No that'd make you Indian lel

>>35036726
Your dad still wanted you physically. Trust me.

>>35036785
I fantasize about faking my own death before my wedding day and disappearing.

>>35036924
So you fantasize about ruining one of the best days of your life? I hope you don't go through with doing something that stupid.

>>35036910
jokes on you, my dad died

>>35036971
>best days of your life
once again these retards fall for the SHAM, GOOD LUCK

>>35036971
>a life time commitment to a guy don't think I've ever loved.

Sure sounds great.

>>35036726
Why are you so unhappy femanon? I know who you are.

>>35037024
DON'T MARRY HIM THEN YOU STUPID SLUT

>>35037024
>marrying someone you don't love
Save him the grief and jump in front of the nearest train.

>>35037025
You got the wrong person, buddy. Plenty of people start taking the devils poison early. Believe it or not, i'm content with my life, aside from mental issues (schizo).

>>35037213
Women are too delicate and fragile to do stuff like you're doing.

>>35037156
I probably won't.

Or at least I won't be staying married for long.

>>35037200
I wish I could jump in front of a time machine and spare myself the past 4 years of misery.

>>35037380
Fembot. Why are you so miserable?

>>35037380

What do you dislike about him? Is he abusive?

>>35029936
Women only want Chads dick. They can get that with a right swipe any day. They are certainly happier now that they are free to please Chad instead of the trash they were forced to marry in the past

>>35037233
>Stuff like you're doing
What are you refering to? The drugs? Many women take drugs.

>>35037821
I've seen too many women fucked by drugs, they lose everything as a result of them.

>>35037861
Are they unable to use in moderate amounts or what? More prone to addiction? Haven't personally experienced women being "worse" with drugs but maybe you're on to something. .

>>35030781
>for a very long time the catholic church was the arbiter of who could get their marriage annuled. Do you know what wasn't grounds? The infidelity of the husband.

fake and gay.

Roman Catholic Church was the reason marriages worked 99% of the time.

And that happened because RCC taught everyone that infidelity is sin, pre-marital sex is sin (therefore no Big Expectations on Sex Performances), porn is sin, and children are blessing, abortion is murder, and so on.

Every schism and heresy eventually degraded marriage and morality.

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>>35029936
Is it stupid to ask such a question in r9k known to be populated by ostracized young males?

Some were, some weren't. Depends on what an individual woman wants. Undoubtedly some likedn it better before, but most probably like being their own person now.

there's a secret i know about women...they're not all the same person

>>35029936
>Fembots, you are broken.

No, I love my life.

I have a really good job and can easily afford birth control, beer and chicken wings. I have a good relationship with my family and friends.

I have a nice FWB I go to the gym with, get shitfaced with and can do all the sex with.

>>35031201
>Women are more likely to cheat because its just so easy

it's easy from a statistical point of view, that is:

- men always crave for sex
- women crave way less
- that unbalance produces the observed "women more likely to cheat" phenomenon.

The only exception is some recognized moral authority that states that cheating is sin.

That is, the traditional Catholic Church.

>>35030781
>Do you know what wasn't grounds? The infidelity of the husband.

false.

the Catholic Church suffered the Anglican schism because did not give "annulment" to Henry VIII.

BTW "annulment" is actually a reasonably prove that the specific marriage, at the time it was celebrated, did not have the essential prerequisites (freedom to marry the spouse, possible procreation, and so on).

>>35038869
>I have a nice FWB I go to the gym with, get shitfaced with and can do all the sex with.

You're garbage. You know that right?

>>35029936
unlimited opportunity creates unlimited regret.

>>35038982
Why would someone not want a workout/beer/fuck buddy?

>>35030132
Pretty faces don't last anon

>>35030599
You seem like the kind of washed up bitter whore I need the love of

>>35039028
Tell your future husband about all your fuckbuddies.

>>35039082
life also doesn't last anon

>>35039136
I'll play it by ear when the time arrives.

>>35039208
>play it by ear

dishonest as fuck

>>35039252
Some men are too fragile to know the truth.

You have to do what's best for them.

>>35039276
You exist to be used. That's what your pussy is for. Use.

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>>35038869

seems like you didn't yet decided to settle.
welcome depression.

>>35039276
You did what honey?????


Sorry, you can keep the kids.... bye

>>35039319
Right?

And it would be a shame if it didn't get used until marriage.

>>35039347
>kids

Oh god no.

Also I don't think our state has fault laws when it comes to divorce, my work friend divorced her husband and gets almost 50% of his monthly income in like spousal payments or whatever.

And he kept their kid.

>>35039439
I'd settle for 3/4 the kid mid up.

>>35039439
>And it would be a shame if it didn't get used until marriage.

Do you not feel a sense of shame?

Or does shame simply fuel your lust?

>>35039649
Why would I feel ashamed for having a good friend I have sex with?

>>35039751

because that means you're a whore.

>>35039820
I'm hardly a whore anon, I'm not even a slut.

>>35039751
because it makes you a bad person see:>>35039820

but it's A okay if you were to fuck him

>>35039870
I'd probably fuck him, he seems like a posturing baby boy and I want him to lick my butthole.

>>35040052
Let me give you a rimjob pls.

>>35040303
You got it ladddy

>>35040357
Do you at least have a nice ass?

>>35040546
7/10 pretty decent

nice rack too

>>35031652

Not that anon but wars aren't fought for your country. They're fought for your government and the rich, neither of which you should have any allegiance to. They don't give a shit about you.

>>35029936
my father loves me

all of the points you've made just make men sound bad

but we don't care because we're not stupid enough to generalize and assume that men are all as awful as you are

you're obviously not in a very good place rn and i think you're projecting but i hope you feel better soon ilysm <3

(anybody who takes this "women are sad because they are not supposed to have free will and rights!!" shit seriously is either definitely dying alone or killing themselves after only bitch dumb enough to fuck them leaves)

>>35041494
Your father fucking hates you and wants you to die while he films you and takes a big shit down your throat

>>35031652
>Men who are too cowardly to fight for their country are garbage

just spook my shit up