Pharmacists are dumb

the also get paid immensley

>>34977859
>the also get paid immensley
not really anon, they do not get paid that well for the time they have to go to school

the average wage of a pharmacist is 112k, this is after they finish their schooling, not to mention their debt from school

getting experience in a field for the same time that they are in school can easily put you around 112k or greater

they don't only sell you poisons, they're qualified to and can make poisons that kill stuff in you without killing you

>>34977906
>112k
>not a lot
They do about 6 years of schooling after high school while a doctor is required 8 plus 2 years of residency.

>>34978047
>can make
they don't make shit in the back of their little stalls in convenience stores anon

they just sit there and put pills in bottles

they are stupid ugly people and they should not be respected

>>34978195
They're resposible for preventing doctor fuck ups which are pretty common. Wrong dosage, dangerous drug combinations, etc. There are also different kinds of jobs for pharmacists, some work in hopsitals and drug manufacturing factories.

>>34977846
I used to be a pharmacy technician, and I've worked under a dozen or so pharmacists
Pharmacists are responsible for ensuring the prescriptions techs fill are accurate, are constantly on the phone with doctors/insurance companies to make sure patients get the right drug at the right price
Most pharmacists are pretty neurotic, but going to school for 8 years just to sit on the phone for hours takes neurosis

>112k
When the avg is <30k, 112k seems like a lot.

>>34978289
>responsible for ensuring the prescriptions techs fill are accurate

so they count the pills you put in those little bottles so they know you counted correctly

being on a phone all day isn't impressive, they are dumb people

>>34978418
wouldn't say they're dumb if they are getting 112k a year to make sure some high schoolers can count

>>34977846
>tfw in pharm school
>gonna be over 160k in debt by the end
>School is even harder than med school sometimes but no one is ever gonna call me doctor
>by the time I graduate job saturation is gonna be so bad I'll probably be unemployed unless I move to bumfuck, Alabama or something
>People think I just count pills

A-at least I can work with the DoD in Japan right?

>>34978476
>harder than med school
hard no there pal

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>>34978476
>School is even harder than med school sometimes but no one is ever gonna call me doctor
no it's not idiot

you don't make shit anon all the medicine is sent to you from companies that have chemists who do real work

you literally do nothing your job is worthless and I HATE YOU

>>34978561
>>34978560
Try taking 18 credit loads of classes like advanced pharmacology and PTPM of like 4 body systems, graduate level biochem, and memorizing an average of like 20 drugs a day
Also gotta work as an intern for 40 hours a week for pennies or else you'll never get a job upon graduation, good goy.

Med students at least get respect and mad pussy

>>34978672
>Also gotta work as an intern for 40 hours a week for pennies or else you'll never get a job upon graduation, good goy.

they make you do this because they know how stupid pharm students are, especially you

you deserve to work for slave wages, your occupation doesn't contribute to the world

the average JAV idol is worth the same as the lives of 1000 pharmacists

>>34978711
All starting jobs want at least 2 years of experience, so if you dont get that in school you're fucked

Also next time you're getting chemo, antibiotics etc I'll make sure to "accidently" use the retarded dosage your doctor set.

>>34978732
>Also next time you're getting chemo, antibiotics etc I'll make sure to "accidently" use the retarded dosage your doctor set.

I trust the dosage the doctor set because he went to med school and he knows what he is doing

you are just a stupid pill counter don't get so cocky

>>34978672
i was just trolling bro. mad respect for anyone in the medical field

pharmacist here.
studied pharmacy because no better ideas, not quite satisfied by my choice but I don't struggle for money and the job is not hard.
If I had to go back I'd do something else tho, maybe architecture.

>>34978773
>If I had to go back I'd do something else tho, maybe architecture.
are you sure you could handle that? architects actually have to think sometimes about whether their designs are viable, it's not a job for brain dead losers

>>34978745
MDs take a single pharmacology class and have no fucking clue how to calculate a dosage, or even if an alternate drug is better.

They mostly just shill whatever drug they're being paid to promote. Yes, this is true, look it up.

>>34977846

OP you seem a little asspained, what did you go to school for mr. high and mighty?

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>>34978799
>doctors learn everything pharmacists learn over the course of two years IN ONE CLASS
how do you even survive being so inferior to people who went to med school?

maybe if you did slightly better in college you could have gone to med school, yeah? must feel bad to fuck your whole life up

>>34978845
Not even close, they take a very broad overview
90% have to look up a drug if it's not just common shit, and sometimes they wont even dose it.

I had a 3.7 gpa in a biochem major in undergrad, and a 95 composite percentile on the PCAT.
I didn't feel like cucking myself with 300k of debt, >10 years of school and garbage work hours.

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>>34978815
even people who work at fucking mcdonalds deserve to feel high and mighty over pharmacists

at least cashiers at fast food restaurants provide a valuable service

I am convinced the whole pharmacy program is simply an advanced method of welfare so people with mental disabilities can feel like they are contributing to society. They give them doctor coats and have them sit in the back of convenience stores where nobody can see them and have them count pills, and they feel SO SPECIAL AND IMPORTANT, it's such a great program in that regard honestly

>>34978895
Even NEETS are better than pharmacists. counting cummies

>>34977846
T. rejected pharmacy applicant

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>>34978911
>Even NEETS are better than pharmacists. counting cummies
this

NEETs don't pretend that they do important work at least

NEETs have humility, what do pharmicucks have?
NOTHING JUST THEIR LITTLE PILLS AND BOTTLES TO SHOVE UP THEIR ASSES AND URETHRAS IN THE BACK OF CVS

Is there any occupation that is actually not worthless, fun and lets you sleep, wake up and eat whenever you want? That basically lets you live the life you want?

Hint: No.

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>>34978934
>t. suicide risk pharm school student

>>34978976
>t. pharm student in denial stage of grief

I don't even want to breathe the same air as pharmacists honestly. Being around those autism pills all day and inhaling their dust particles can't be good for their brains. Maybe that's why they are so fucked up and STUPID

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I want to bully pharmacists too OP!

Fuck pharmacists! I hate them!

>>34979038
kind of a bummer, it was cool to hear a pharmacy students perspective

>hating people for taking easy jobs that make good money

People work to live, not live to work.
But I did have a dumb stacy pharmacologist fuck up my medicine twice. She probably wanted to kill a robot.

>>34979038
Don't ever post that poo in loo uggo on this board again.

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>>34979109
>Don't ever post that poo in loo uggo on this board again.

uhhh that's pretty rude buddy...

>>34978289
I'm a pharmacy tech now, dunno how i ended up here. what do you do now? how do i escape?

I'm not unhappy, it's just not for me.

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>>34979087
>pharmacy students perspective
what did they say lol?

>UGUGHGG DOCTORS MIGHT MESS UP SO WE ARE VERY IMPORTANT
fuck these hoity toity fags

Why do pharmacists even exist? They don't write prescriptions. The real doctors do the hard work of figuring out which medicines are right for which patients. Pharmacists just fill the scripts. Robots could literally do that.

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>>34979185
>Robots could literally do that.

they don't even need robots honestly, counting pills is not that hard, in fact I think the nurses could do it too.

For example, if they need to take 3 pills a day for 3 weeks, then the nurses could very easily put 7 * 3 * 3 into a calculator. The doctors could check.

I just eliminated the need for this whole sham profession. Watch how angry these pharmacist dummies get in this thread WHEN THEY REALIZE I AM RIGHT

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>>34977846
Thanks for making this thread OP. Next time I see a pharmacist I am going to punch them in the fucking face

>>34977846
It pays well but it's a shit job.

You are standing up all day basically doing lab work + a few phone calls and a bit of computer work.

If you get back pain then it's a living hell.

>>34979244
>7*3*3
Ok I actually laughed at this one

>>34979106
>People work to live, not live to work.

this.
OP, did a pharmacist fuck your mom?

I'm doing pre-pharmacy because
>easier than premed
>I want an easy, relaxing job
>I hate laboratory work
>I want a high wage

>>34979311
what the fuck are you talking about, of course you can sit down. are you retarded?

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>>34977846
Maybe in america, in germany you can't own more than I think 4 pharmacies at the same time, so you can aways open up your own pharmacy after you finished university without being in competition with big chains.

>>34978476
>A-at least I can work with the DoD in Japan right?
what do you mean? as far as i know, a USA pharmacy license doesn't transfer to japan.

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>>34979341
In the US they don't let people in ahitty service jobs sit down

cashiers and stuff have to stand up too

>>34977846
As someone who is against taking any pharmaceuticals unless it's absolutely inevitable, I can admittedly anecdotally say that more often than not, pharmacists are more knowledgeable, and helpful than many doctors themselves are about prescribing medications. Insofar as you're aware of any allergies you may have to some things, you're better off consulting a pharmacists about what you should get and take for specific symptoms you're experiencing instead of scheduling an appointment with a physician, waiting, going and paying (if you don't have some health plan) an absurd amount of money for the visit, and whatever medication you may be told to get.

>>34978476
Maybe you can get a high paying job in laboratory in some foreign country if you specialize now.

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>>34979367
>pharmacist: a doctor substitute for poor people
this is why we need universal healthcare, it's so sad that you are forced by our current system to interact with the pill counters and get their worthless opinions on medical issues

I wish this horrible system could change one day

>>34979344
>in germany
>implying your shit-tier, Muslim-importing third world shithole matters

>>34977846
Looks like someone didn't get their Xanax refilled

>>34979359
The military needs American pharmacists overseas
it's a federal job, pays as much as it would here (around 100k) and I get to live out my weeb dreams

>>34977846
Today my pharmacist grabbed a jar of rectal-sol and put it in a bag for me.

Then I left. They stayed behind.

>>34979364
I've literally job shadowed at multiple pharmacies.

Not only are there chairs, but you can make your technicians do almost EVERYTHING.

One pharmacist literally sat in the back playing rap like Fetty Wap out loud from her iphone and gossiping while teenagers did the work for her.

We just deal with insurance, bureaucracy and algorithms all day.

>>34979467
wouldn't you be segregated to some military town instead of living around actual japanese people?

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>>34979483
>We just deal with insurance, bureaucracy and algorithms all day.
you gonna be dealing with THIS DICK all day pretty anon

>>34977846
It is the pharm tech that count pills, pharmacist check them, only narcotic need recount. Half the time I spent on the phone to make sure that I do actually get payed for the pills we dispensed. The other half is to make sure the MD don;t prescribe drug that doesn't exist.

I agree it is pathetic, but for one last time: WE DON'T COUNT PILLS

>>34978672
>memorizing an average of like 20 drugs a day

I memorized like 50 digits of pi in high school
I bet I could be a pharmacist

I agree, just hire your local burger king cashier to count those life-saving/destroying pills for you

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>>34979412
I understand the sentiments about universal healthcare, even if I'm undecided on how all of that should be set up myself. If there were universal coverage, it would funnily enough be worse for me because then I'd've no excuse to avoid doctors about a chronic illness, or whatever. As it is, I can at least feign the inability to consult specialists under the guise of being an impoverished fuck. Destitution is my middle name, mudduffukkusss. But seriously though, I hate having to deal with any medical professionals. I appreciate what they do for others, but being inside of hospitals and clinics makes me feel physically ill, it's so uncomfortable. I'd also not have been born had I any say in the matter, but all I've got is the next best thing, death. Dundunduuuuuuuuunnnnn! But really, I'm not so poor comparatively to others. I can use the internet to convey this stupidly lengthy message after all, and that's more than many people can say, so I'm grateful for that, always.

>>34979653
this

they put a filter on the job because regardless of its actual difficulty, it's high-risk. you pretty much have to go through hell for 8 years, volunteer for 2 years, and be relatively intelligent, so they don't give some random douche access to vicodin

>>34979412
would universal healthcare lower the pharmacist wage?

>>34979706
I really don't think pharmacist still do 8 years anymore, most are 6. And pharmacists also don't have much authority in prescribing, the MD is the final decision. The most important pharmacist do is dosage. I swear MD just jot down their lotto number for dosage and make the pharmacist fix it

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>>34979706
>they put a filter on the job because regardless of its actual difficulty, it's high-risk. you pretty much have to go through hell for 8 years, volunteer for 2 years, and be relatively intelligent, so they don't give some random douche access to vicodin

honestly this is what it comes down to. Even if they are just essentially counting pills the medical system can't just trust any joe schmoe with potentially addictive drugs.

The whole charade and act of convincing pharmacists that they are intelligent and important purely revolves around this fact - they need to believe their job is important so they don't steal drugs.

>>34979500
>wouldn't you be segregated to some military town instead of living around actual japanese people?
Probably?
But that just means free rent
I could easily hop on a train to tokyo
Also fuck some japanese traps

>>34979740
4 years of undergrad and 4 years of grad
Residencies after pharm school are becoming a requirement for hospital pharmacy as well these days

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>>34979761
>spending 10+ years of education just to FUCKING COUNT PILLS

OP is right, these people are SO pathetic, honestly they must be disgusting. I don't even want them touching my pills, I would prefer if the doctor did it

>>34979753
does the military throttle job salaries too? and don't you get assigned to based, rather than choosing them yourself?

you might be better off becoming an english teacher

>>34979803
*assigned to bases
>>34979778
the doctor doesn't have time for that, because people are constantly getting their pills refilled. that's why it's a separate job

>wanting a stressful job
>not being greedy
i thought you guys were robots? as far as wagecuckery goes, pharmacist is robot-tier.

>>34979761
Why 4 years of undergrad? I only did 2, and resident is optional for me

>>34979778
>COUNT PILLS
I get triggered by this phrase so much. Even nurse think that this is what pharmacists do. You ungrateful mongrels are what killing this profession

>>34979848
i'm doing 4 because i'm too stupid to handle very many classes at once

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>>34979848
>I get triggered by this phrase so much
maybe you should have chosen a different profession then pill counter

>pharmaCYSTS study for 8 years just to work the same kind of job like an mcdonalds employee
Is there a bigger failure than a pharmie?

>>34979887
>$120,000 / year
>easy as fuck job
It's called exploiting the system, anon.

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PICTURE OF THE AVERAGE PHARMACY STUDENT

>>34979914
most pharmacists are asians who didn't get into medical school

>>34979887
>not wanting to be the robot of a trillions dollar industry

>>34979903
depends where you live
here in lithuania they don't earn shit

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>here's your pills anon I counted them really well

why are we letting these pedophiles handle our medicine?

>>34979803
According to USAJOBS, the salary is from 100k-130k.
It doesn't mention being on a base.
An english teacher makes what, 30k? You also have to deal with your cancerous tumblr tier weeb co-workers.

you can add this retarded job to the list of jobs that will be gone in 10 years due to technology that we already have and haven't implemented yet

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>>34980007
you can eliminate the pharmacist from society but you can't eliminate the pharmacist from their brains

These people are so thoroughly indoctrinated into the pharmacy cult that their attitudes of entitlement and pretentiousness will not go away. The only solution is a final one. We need the contaminated blood of pharmacists to run through the streets

>>34980007
>technology replace pharmacy
Unless you can make insurance cough up money on demand, pharmacy will never go away. It is so bad at where I work they have to hire a pharmacist just to deal with insurance

>>34979984
Even if you live off-base, working for the military means you are deployed to a location. You don't permanently live anywhere. You could be in Japan for three years, but then get told to move somewhere else.

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/462231500/
>$43,251.00 to $153,197.00 / Per Year

>>34980055
if the united states doesn't have socialized medicine in a decade it would be embarrassing

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>>34980101
honestly I want this purely so I can see pharmacists suffer
I can't wait until this moment

>>34980059
43k isn't in japan you dummy
Also so what? you'll make contacts there and make sure you get redeployed every 3 years.

>>34980101
>socialized medicine
kys commie scum

>>34980165
>43k isn't in japan you dummy
[citation needed]

The one I posted is the only one that includes Japan. The low end of the wage is the starting wage, which is raised after each year of experience.

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>tfw small dicked pharmacissy tries to interact with me
lock your shit up in a cage or quit your job pharmacists

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>>34980221
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>>34980178
Fuck insurance companies its nothing but extortion and unless you're rich you can't get jack shit coverage. People shouldn't go bankrupt after one trip to the hospital it's not right.

>>34978157
Not to mention the difference in effort. Would you rather sit behind a counter all day or spend most of your day shoulder deep in fat rolls trying to determine if some hamplanet's bed sores are turning septic or if they just always smell that bad?

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>>34980255
>average pharmasissy prepares for his workday

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>>34980255
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>>34980295
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>>34980265

Doctors/hospitals are the ones most responsible for driving up healthcare costs, not the health insurance companies. Think about it. Who profits more from a $100K hospital bill: the hospital or the insurance company that is on the hook for the $100K bill?

>https://www.indeed.com/cmp/MedMen/jobs/Pharmacist-5243c6c637e45e3e?sjdu=QwrRXKrqZ3CNX5W-O9jEvfAgyG5bozB7FHJG4wZEB2f8uiL5vb2bH6rcHzEGnBZElmMn4_yG0c6RaCYP2ukRUOiL3vTXbCREf5LPStrEdbI

>120k to give normies the herbal jew
Holy shit what a riot

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>>34980305
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>>34980344
do you wanna post a link to your mega folder or something instead
or maybe a tumblr

The most beta guy I ever met was an unemployed pharmacist. Apparently the job market is pretty bad unless you know someone or get lucky. Oversaturated.

>>34980391
>The most beta guy I ever met was an unemployed pharmacist. Apparently the job market is pretty bad unless you know someone or get lucky. Oversaturated.
What? But people in this thread were saying it was such easy money

It has to be the most worthless job in existence. I bet they make fun of burger flippers which is pretty ironic because the guy making your burgers has more talent. Automating pharmacy would have been done by now if not for legal bullshit.

>>34980335
Everything in the healthcare system has a role the insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, the hospital companies, even the companies that make things like gauze, syringes, or medical equipment. Costs will only continue to rise and fewer and fewer people will have access to enough coverage as long as this industry is a business and not a service for the well being of the nation.

>>34980493
The hard part was the education. Burger flippers probably couldn't even survive high school classes.

I want to become a pharmacist because I don't want my life to revolve around my career. I'm a musician, but I want to make good money. If I become a pharmacist, I could relax while working, then focus on music at home.

We should put all pharmies into concentration camps desu.

WAHHH I NEED 6 figures to put pills in a bottle that a sorting machine can do. Pay my salary with expensive medication WAHHH

Gas. Now.

Thank you OP for making this good public announcement. I give them ZERO respect at the counter. Next time I think I will tell them to get a real job.

>>34977846
>veterinarian
that shit takes balls

>>34980535
Typical pharmie mindset right here. You think you deserve money because you have lots of education? By that logic womens studies majors deserve high paying jobs too because they memorized all of feminist theory in excruciating detail

Oh and look slso, he wants to leech the system so he can make shitty music. Pharmies are a waste of life. At least NEETs don't cost me hardly anything. You fucks are cancer

>>34977846
What is so pathetic about saving non human animals' lives, you hubristic cunt?

>>34980619
Begging insurance companies to do what the patient paid them to do all day is saving lives now?

>>34980587
Women's studies classes are easy. Women's studies students don't have to apply to graduate school. Women's studies students don't have to do unpaid volunteering for years.

I'm getting the feeling you're a high schooler. In college, not all classes are the same difficulty. Grades are also curved. If you want to become a pharmacist, you have to take many chemistry, biology, biochemistry, physics, and calculus classes, and you have to be on the upper end of the grading curve. Otherwise, you're not going to get accepted to pharmacy school, where the classes are even HARDER. You also have to take the PCAT, which is like the SAT but 100x harder and requires tons of medicine related memorization.

There's a reason most pharmacists are asians. It's fucking difficult.

It's difficult to become a veterinarian and is an extremely thankless job. It's worse than treating humans, because your patients can't communicate with you and are at the mercy of their masters (most are usually neglectful and just want the cheapest care). Veterinarians suffer from higher suicide rates than doctors because of all the horrible shit they have to go through. I'd probably kms if I had to put down dogs every day and deal with assholes. I don't think it's fair at all to lump them in with nitwits that sit behind a CVS counter and dole out meds

>>34980657
>Grades are curved
Maybe at fucking clown college

>>34980692
I go to UCLA and grades are curved.

>>34980536
>I give them ZERO respect at the counter.
Enjoy your "accidentally" lethal dose, and waiting 2 hours just to get it

>>34980657
You still aren't understanding the point.

Jobs don't deserve to have their pay tied to how much education they require. Imagine laws were passed so that every burger flipper needed to take an 8 year course in culinary arts, burger history, food chemistry, etc. They also demanded a 6 figure wage because of this. Fucking LMAO
Your job is easy as FUCK. The only thing keeping that entire profession afloat is laws.

I could likely design a device myself that can sort pills or it probably already exists. Customer gives prescription at front desk, they enter data into machine, machine spits out bottle. Thats all that is needed.

Or if machine isn't ready just yet you could start today by training a few 100 IQ people to sort pills for minimum wage. Sure, maybe they might make slightly more mistakes for not giving much fucks but I doubt it. The upside is my pharmacy will be far cheaper.

>>34980746
They wouldn't dare, all medcucks fear malpractice lawsuit more than anything.

Besides, they don't give the dose, actual REAL doctors do. They just fill the bottle.

>>34980761
No one "deserves" any pay. No one is entitled to anything. It's about supply and demand.

Pharmacist supply is artificially throttled by making the requirements extremely difficult.

Culinary classes are fucking easy. You're not getting it. Once you graduate high school, try taking something as simple as general chemistry at a good university. It's not the same as just taking a class. I would even call it competitive.

Not very many people have what it takes to get through a graduate school, whether it's law school, medical school, or pharmacy school. It's all highly competitive and rigorous. The result is very few people actually going through with it, and the ones who do being very committed.

Do you have a better solution for ensuring that the people handing controlled substances are the best people possible? No one's going to jump through a thousand hoops for shit pay.

>>34980856
You're the one saying you deserve to be high paid for a job a simple person can do pal.

>>34980873
The high pay is necessary if you want high requirements. High requirements are necessary if you want upstanding people doing the job rather than random niggers off the street. Do you want random niggers off the street standing next to rows and rows of vicodin, oxycodone, xanax, etc... AND being responsible for counting the inventory?

The machine idea is plausible, but not happening for a long time.

Why hate pharmacists OP?

It would be great if we had a single profession hate thread every day here. It'd break things up from the nogf

When doctors prescribe you shit, they aren't sitting down and doing sooper dooper advanced chemistry based on your bloodwork. Their skill is recognizing and diagnosing your condition, but when it comes to attaching a medicine to it, they're picking the generic answer that's been assigned to your condition by a book. They've prescribed the same shit many times before. They choose it generically. Not much thought goes into the dosage they write down either, it's mostly an approximation.

The pharmacist is the one who has to scrutinize people on an individual basis and really make sure the dosage is exact for the specific person. They also have to look at everything else the person is taking and figure out whether or not there's going to be some horrible reaction. They talk to that person and make sure they know exactly what's what about that specific drug. Then they check up on that person every time they refill and make sure nothing is going wrong.

The person who looks at a receipt, finds a number, and then counts pills is the technician.

How does one go about being a pharmacy tech? If there's any pharmacists here I'd like some input.

and fuck all y'all bashing pharmacists, I'd love to see any of you pass a pharmacology program

>>34981082
Oh look, the PIDF is here

>>34978799

This is true, I've known nurses with better understanding of drugs than doctors. The nurse was autistic and very specialized so I guess it's not saying much, but doctor's don't really know much until they've had like 10 years experience of listening to the nurses and pharmacist telling them how to not kill a patient.

Are there any pharmacists still on here?

>hand over prescription
>1 item
>"um, just let me see if we have any in stock"
>30 seconds later
>"okay, it'll be ready in about 10 minutes"
what the fuck
you just went and found what I need
just put it in a fucking bag and give it to me
that shouldn't take 10 fucking minutes

>>34981420
If you can't wait a simple 10 minutes for meds you need grow up. Better yet set up auto-refills for your meds so you don't have to wait

>>34980785
Malpractice covers it, hope you have good life insurance though

>>34981484
I don't plan on being permanently ill

can you explain why it takes 10 minutes to bag and scan 1 item?

>>34978256
>doctor fuckups
>pretty common

Why do we have these doctors that fuck up? Am I /redpilled/ for not going to the doctor?

>extremely lazy
>got into a "good" university
>taking classes required for pre-pharmacy
>direct admit to chemistry major
>got a 1.5 in my first chemistry class, had to retake it
>get like a 2.5 in every chem and bio class because i don't study until a couple days before each midterm and like four days before each final
>2.8 overall gpa by getting 4.0s in liberal arts classes
>still haven't done anything special like volunteering
>probably gonna get a mediocre PCAT score
>obviously not gonna get accepted to the pharmacy school at my university
i wonder if i can get into some shitty bumfuck pharm school in the middle of nowhere with a high acceptance rate

i don't even care where i go, i just want that sweet, sweet license.

i'm gonna apply to a shitload of schools and pray that one of them takes me for being a minority and having all the required credits

also, the shit about working on a military base in japan interests me.
>is it still high-paying?
>can you be there PERMANENTLY? i don't want to finally get a jap gf and then get told to pack my bags for shitistan or get fired

i'm just a talentless lazy hack who wants a talentless lazy job + money and possibly a jap gf.

>>34981505
My guess is that they're filling up other prescriptions and you're just next in line. I'm not a pharmacist so I don't know for certain. That being said, 10-20 minutes wait time is what I've usually encountered before I put my scripts on auto-refill.

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>>34977846
>>34977859

Can we please stop with this "le pharmacists make bank xD" meme?

>>34981629
120k isn't enough for you, goldstein?

>>34981570
As far as I know you don't need to be in the military to work in a military hospital pharmacy.

>>34981516

No, you're just a fucking moron. If a doctor does anything wrong, you sue him and get money.

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>>34981640
After taxes and employment fees it's like 80k

>>34981516
Because the average doctor is not trained in critical thinking like someone in law school, or even pharmacy school is. Doctors are mechanics of the human body, and they basically go by routine procedure and a guide book. It's frowned upon to deviate from their differential.

For example, for a year, I had severe epigastric (the center of chest) pain, several times after eating. I'm a fat, young, male, with anxiety. They instantly shooed me off various times with acid reflux and or anxiety related pain. So after googling my symptoms, and the schedule with which they occurred, because they were routine, always happening after a heavy meal, I know had an idea of what it could be. But I needed evidence. I needed the magic wizard with the M.D. to confirm it somehow. One day, after a severe episode, I went to an urgent care immediately asked for blood work up, specifically with for the liver. He agreed. It came back with elevated ALT enzymes. Had a scan done. Confirmed for gallstones.

Took about a year to get a right diagnosis. Keep in mind I saw about half a dozen M.D.s, even in an Emergency department once, and they just basically told me, 'take your Tums and stop complaining'. They refused to accept the idea that I had anything other than heartburn or anxiety.

They profiled me and made a retarded educated guess. Typically, only fat (old) women get gallstones. Not 20-year-old males. So they refused to use critical thinking. That's how they get you killed.

>>34981629
Don't dentists make much more?

Pharmacists: I need your advice because I don't want go through my M.D. and have him cut me off.

I've been going through a rough patch recently, I failed an important class last semester, and I'm having a rough start this term, with really huge asshole instructors. This one particular course, in music, is really having me go out of my comfort zone with performing and what not.

So, I've been popping my benzos like candies, alprazolam in particular, also some Ativan. Right now, I'm up to 2-3 mg of the benzos, and I've been doing this for the past 2-3 months. Am I hooked on this shit? Will my brain get fried by seizures if I cut back/stop?

Second question: Doc prescribed Zoloft for long term mental disorder crap. I've tried taking it at night. I wake up in the morning with a headache, and mental fog. One time I swear it even gave me a night terror, woke up in cold sweats too. Oh and I had some weird twitching too. Are the SSRIs culpable for these symptoms? Should I not try to put these jew pills into my system anymore?

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What is literally stopping pharmacists from just slipping themselves comfy pills all day?

>>34981606

They have to count the pills because they come from a big bottle that has a bunch of pills. Usually that means counting to 30 for a whole month so it takes a while. I bet people complaining about the wait would change their mind after they had to do it themself a few times.

>>34981960
Not a pharmacist, but when I was taking up to 8mg of xanax a day for a year and quit cold turkey all I experienced was insomnia. I think you'll be fine, but everyone's different. Only you will know if you're hooked or not, if you're doing benzos every day, chances you are addicted.

>>34981992
the risk of spending almost a decade doing rigorous work and then having it all disappear if you get caught?

only people who struggle with money need to steal, also.

>>34978773
Architects study for longer, work longer, and get paid less with much higher stress

What a stupid career choice.

>>34981992
You can't. There are corporate detectives everywhere. Don't believe the memes in this thread. Pharmacist are worked like slaves

>>34982010
Counting to 30 doesn't take long

>>34982031
>only people who struggle with money need to steal, also

What if they're drug addicts?

>>34982028
Fuck. 8mg? Shit. I'm surprised you made it out, broseph. I guess... I should be good, then...? I'm gonna try to cut back but it's hard. It feels 'right' to have at least a mg in my system every few hours.

>>34982048

You're not just counting to 30 in your head though, you're counting out the pills. Then you have to print out a sticker with the patient name and stick it on the bottle. It's some pretty technical stuff. Also sometimes the bottles are hard top open, you need to be pretty strong.

>>34982075
>you need to be pretty strong.

I'm a big guy

>>34982057

Then they buy them like normal people. You don't shit where you eat, anon.

>>34978195
It's called a compounding pharmacy.

>>34980059
Not sure if either of you are still around, but I went to high school overseas because my mom was working with DoD. A few things.
>contractors don't usually live on military bases
>they almost always get housing allowances, which means they can live wherever they want off base and the government will pay for it
>we did not have to keep moving. Once in the system, you can move around as much as you'd like, basically
My parents still live in the same place and plan on living there for many more years to come. They can move if they want to, or they can stay indefinitely.

DoD is an amazing gig if you don't mind traveling, although for those without families it is pretty socially isolating.

>>34982066
I don't know how I did it honestly, I got like 3-4 hours a sleep a night for a month cuz withdrawals and terrible rebound anxiety.

You should start a taper plan, like 2.5mg a day for a few days, then 2mg, etc. There's guides on the internet for this type of thing.

>>34977906
>100k to count pills
Sounds alright to me

>>34982057
are you saying someone with 80k after taxes is gonna blow tens of thousands on a drug addiction, run out of money, and start stealing? at that point you're probably gonna overdose, or at least stop showing up for work

>>34978195
Were you molested by a pharmacist or something?

>>34978895
>tfw you walk by the pharmacy section to go get toothpaste and you get a creepy feeling that you're being watched by stiff, uptight, freaks who push fruity loop pills to mentally ill people

the whole "dealer behind the white counter" thing is such a bad look. they even do it at actual state mental clinics where you get psycho meds.
why should i look at these people with any more respect than i would a crack dealer???

they went to school for 8 years? cool, Jamal hustled rock on the streets for 8 years, same exact shit.

>>34982216
>they went to school for 8 years? cool, Jamal hustled rock on the streets for 8 years, same exact shit.
you don't really think this

or you're in high school

>>34981570
What the fuck makes you think you can handle grad school if you can't fucking get over a C in intro classes?
What makes you think you can handle 3 license exams if you can't do well on the PCAT?
Fuck off, this profession has enough retards already

>>34982278
yeah man, i was being literal when i said they're the same exact thing brahhh, because i must think they're the same thing hurrrr durrrrrr, no shit i wasn't being serious faggot.

>>34982120
Nice
>isolating
Not when you have jap traps all over your big western dick all day anon

Pharmacists do a lot more than just counting pills. They don't count pills anyway, their technicians do it.

Pharmacists are responsible for checking drug interactions, appropriate dosing for the patient, and more.

Doctors don't know all this and always leave it up to pharmacies to adjust their prescriptions appropriately. They write the script, we fix it.

If you're in some place like compounding or hospital, you get a lot more responsibility.

Basically, since every single operating pharmacy is required to have a pharmacist, it's safe to say that they are not worthless.

Considering that they help save lives, they are a lot more useful than anyone who calls them worthless.

I have no respect for pharmacists. Do you realize how many dumb Stacy's go to pharmacy school paid for by daddy and end up making 100k for nothing? At least 5 from my high school who I know were dumb as bricks. Meanwhile I'm 22 making 76k with no parental assistance and am gonna have to fight my way up to 100k from my talents alone. Fuck pharmacists

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>salty STEMfags hate their jobs so much that they have to attack others to compensate
Literally the worst out of all wagies.

>>34982593

Do you think it's possible that certain professionals and qualifications simply continue to exist because they're basically easy jobs for women? A sort of social conspiracy?

>>34982440
once i'm in grad school, all i have to do is hit the bare minimum requirements.
>What makes you think you can handle 3 license exams if you can't do well on the PCAT?
i haven't even taken the PCAT yet, so i don't know.
>Fuck off, this profession has enough retards already
you can't stop me anon

>>34981505
We have to put the prescription into the system, then we have to type it in manually, the pharmacist has to review it, then it has to be done. This is all while doing other things. The whole pharmacy doesn't stop for ONE patient. It has many things that need to be done.

>>34982756
>Bare minimum
Enjoy never getting hired faggot
Even the DoD requests a transcript

>>34982878
gpa matters for residency, not employment.

people who tryhard in pham school are the ones who want to be hospital pharmacists, not the guy at Walgreens.

>>34983008
Damn you're one massive retard
Job market is getting tight
Who do you think is more employable, me with a 3.7 and thousands of hours, or you with a 2.5 and the minimum amount of experience needed to graduate?

>>34977859

Considering the money spent on education and the nature of the job itself, it isn't worth the only $80,000 to $120,000 per annum. Quite a few pharmacists regret committing themselves to the profession. Retail pharmacy is soul-crushing from what I gather. Worse, salaries are falling or stagnant.

>>34978157

Their income here in Canada is maybe $60,000 to $70,000 per year after taxes, or $5,000 to $6,000 per month. Not great.

>>34983736
>>34983759

Also, the only thing keeping most pharmacists employed is the legal requirement that a pharmacist be present for the filling and dispensing of prescription medication. If that requirement is eliminated or relaxed, pharmacists would almost disappear. Most work in the retail sector and this outmoded legal requirement keeps them employed (along with pharmacist majority ownership at least here in Ontario.)

why are you robots even going for these high stress, but good paying jobs. It won't help you land a family, it won't help you get laid, and they won't make you happy. I only make around twice minimum wage in a comfy IT job, and it's enough money for me. I even get to shitpost on here for half the day. Keep stressing out I guess.

>>34983815
Stoichiomitrist pls go and stay go
Of course a faggot like you would shitpost on /r9k/

Anons, this faggot spends his whole life on SDN and reddit shit talking pharmacists, it's pathetic

>>34983881
Tell us how to get a comfy IT job?

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>guy who makes burgers
>has to know when a burger is cooked, can't under cook or overcook
>Pharmacist
>has to count to 90 by 5s, unless the pharmacy techs do it and he just reads that the bag matches the computer
Pharmacist is literally a job which only exists because the retarded kids of Jews needed jobs.
>m-muh complications
It's literally illegal in New York for me to get my medical history without requesting in writing and the doctor consenting to release my own fucking medical records. Fucking kikes set up this system completely against the patient. Kill yourselves pharmacists.

>>34983888

I have no idea who you're referencing -- this is the first time I've commented on pharmacies in a number of years. My posts aren't necessarily critical either, just factual. Many retail pharmacists hate their jobs and their lives, the salaries are increasingly mediocre and, if laws change, they will be out of work.

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>>34979423
At least I can do things like go to the dentist or study at a top university without taking a loan that I can never pay back.

>>34984006
show interest in the area by taking a few cert tests in the field, work for a company for a while doing something other than IT as a start, then they move you to where you want to be later on in the company after about 6 months to a year.

>>34984006
get certs

work from home

don't fuck up so you can continue working from home

friend recently acquired this comfy life but then posted some shit junk on facebook and they fired him

>>34982648
>Do you think it's possible that certain professionals and qualifications simply continue to exist because they're basically easy jobs for women? A sort of social conspiracy?

Primary-grade public school teaching and some corporate HR departments are pretty much that now.

>>34977846

Walgreen's Pharmacy Tech here

At my location most of the Pharmacists start at 150k, if they agree to a 10 year contract they get their student loans paid off, choice of a vehicle (up to 60k) and a no-interest home loan

Most of our Pharmacists are Vietnamese or Korean, most are female

The Pharmacy manager makes 250k, plus a percentage of the pharmacy profit

We filled about 600 prescriptions a day, 3 daytime Pharmacists, 2 evening and 1 overnight

I work with the overnight guy, he is a reserve Navy Pharmacist also, got me to join the reserves as a corpsman, we do a 15 nights on 15 night off schedule, he even got me a job at a mail order Pharmacy he works for on our off weeks, started going to his church along with his family too

Been working there 15 years now, great pay and benefits, feel sorry for the front end workers, they are all minimum wagers

The store manager is also a Pharmacist, so she gets a Pharmacist salary, plus bonus for being a store manager, store profit bonus and Pharmacy profit bonus, she also works weekends and holidays and picks up evening shifts at another store as a Pharmacist, gets a percentage of the profits from those stores too.

Most of our techs are females, except for me and the night guy I work with, all the other males in our Pharmacy are gay

We have a double drive thru, I park my motorcycle I the outer lane, put up a cone, the air tube is always fucking up and people's prescriptions and credit cards get stuck in the ceiling, easier to shut it down than deal with the bullshit

Every night I get people driving up asking if I can also get them cigarettes and beer, store manager nixed the beer, but we also sell candy, condoms and cigarettes out the drive up window, but only if you are filling a prescription


Walgreen's: At the Corner of Healthy and Happy.

>>34986079
>Most of our techs are females, except for me and the night guy I work with, all the other males in our Pharmacy are gay
So let me guess, the women have family/children. The gay guys probably all have active sparkly social lives. So that's why the two straight guys are on night shift, right? Sounds like you're hanging in their pretty well, though.

>Walgreen's: At the Corner of Healthy and Happy.
I don't know why, but this made me lol.

>>34986079
>At my location most of the Pharmacists start at 150k, if they agree to a 10 year contract they get their student loans paid off, choice of a vehicle (up to 60k) and a no-interest home loan
What fucking state is this? I'll move the second I graduate

>>34980536
>I give them ZERO respect at the counter. Next time I think I will tell them to get a real job.
This is a great idea. Even if right now we have to deal with their bullshit to get them to count our pills make SURE they know they are gonna be replaced by machines soon. Wipe that smile off their stupid faces.

>>34986079
>walgreens
>actually paying competitive wages

how i know this story is fake

>>34986973
>>34986079
P3 here. What magical state is this?

>>34982648
>Do you think it's possible that certain professionals and qualifications simply continue to exist because they're basically easy jobs for women? A sort of social conspiracy?
you don't even need to speculate anon, pharmacists already exist

there's a reason why many women want to be pharmacists, they know it's an easy pill counting job with no real responsibility

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>>34987915
>unironically moving across state borders just to work in a fucking walgreens counting pills

this is why people think you pharmies are pathetic

>>34981505
10 seconds to fill it, 9 minutes and 50 seconds to make sure the dumbass techs did it right so it won't kill you and that your dumbass doctor didn't OD you and/or prescribe shit that interacts with other shit that would kill you

you're welcome

>>34977846
And get paid 80-90k a year. . . How are they retarded again?

why do people want to be pharmacists again?

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>>34977846
Whats the matter op? The local pharmacist refuse to sell you something? Thought you could just go up to the counter and ask for some Vicodin?

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>>34988471
everything OP said is correct you know

these people are con artists who entrenched themselves in the health care system

don't support them or their antics, they are tricking you into thinking their job is important

>>34977846
Wouldn't you like unlimited access to drugs anon?

I'm an autist and that kind of shit seems really fun to me; I like chemistry and learning random drugs for fun. However, I started looking into becoming a pharmacist and there's almost no growth in the field, from what I've been seeing. I don't want to end up going to school for this long and having a ton of loans and then not even being able to get a job in the field.

>>34989573
>However, I started looking into becoming a pharmacist and there's almost no growth in the field, from what I've been seeing
yeah, that's because the field is gonna die soon and these fucks are gonna be replaced by machines

every pharmacist idiot in this thread doesn't see the writing on the wall for their occupation

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>>34989470
>Wouldn't you like unlimited access to drugs anon?

>implying pharmacists are given that much control
>implying they arent watched by their doctor caretakers to make sure they don't misbehave

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>>34977846
>Pharmacists are dumb
no you

>>34981742
seriously? Maybe this is just american doctors, I'm a british 3rd year medical student and as soon as i read "pain after eating heavy meals" i thought cholecystitis/gallstones.

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>>34990803
Oh please fuck off with this "muh euros r better" shit

American doctors are the best in the world, nobody can deny this. When rich people need medical work done they come to the US, not your island shithole.

When the saudi princes need to get medical work done they fly to Mayo Clinic in Minnesota, not some shitty NHS clinic in the UK

>>34990897
Haha I won't deny that Americans have a much broader and deeper knowledge base - we basically have a watered down version when it comes to basic sciences/anatomy/physiology/pathology/pharma/biochem/ect. However we're taught alot more clinical examination techniques/reasoning/judgement ect. Like for this patient with severe epigastric pain after meals I'd just elicit murphy's sign and if positive confirm with ultrasound. Plus we do LFTs very regularly on admission so I doubt someone would take a year to be diagnosed

>>34991029
why is medicine in the UK an undergraduate degree?

>>34988471

That is a valid complaint against them. It's stupid to require a prescription when I already know what I want. Even something basic like clonidine or telmisartan. It's like they're just dumb mindless salesclerks who are scared to do anything without their masters permission.

>>34991029
Kek,
In America that's what nurses do.

>>34991325
I have no idea, its just always been that way here. I'm guessing its partially to do with A-levels here being harder than the american equivalents, so we learn alot of the stuff in 6th form that americans do in their undergrad degrees. But its also due to us learning less, americans get taught so much more than us. 5 years is enough for us because there's just less content overall taught in medical school, and our post-graduate training is WAY longer than in america.

>>34977846
They get paid a lot

And they deal drugs with fatal consequences so they have to have the illusion they're well trained (they're not)

>>34978672
>advanced pharmacology
This was actually pretty easy, Advanced Organic chem was harder

>graduate level biochem
Biochem major, so it was pretty easy also

>memorizing an average of like 20 drugs a day
Memorizing isn't hard

>>34981742
>I'm a fat, young, male, with anxiety. They instantly shooed me off various times with acid reflux and or anxiety related pain

Family Medicine resident here. You are entirely correct you were profiled, but not because you weren't a 40 year-old fat woman. Many doctors instantly turn off when presented with demographics matching your case (fat young males with anxiety), because quite frankly, you guys are usually a pain in the ass to deal with.

It's not proper, I would have worked you up, because I'm a pessimist and expect bad things. But they're so used to similar patients being a frustrating waste of time and diagnostic expenditures, they get jaded.

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This is the best thread ever
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>>34991515
>In America that's what nurses do.
this is because medicine is an undergraduate and a graduate degree in the UK, people who finish just the undergrad degree are not doctors, they are just people prepared to work in the medical field

The anon you are replying to is talking about his undergraduate medical degree

>>34978672
all that to hand out prozac to middle age women...

>>34991841
Nope, our undergraduate degree (MBBS) is a doctorate. After you graduate you're entitled to use Dr. infront of your name, and you get partial registration with the GMC to practise.

Pharmacist here, I get paid more than 130k a year, student debt long paid off and my job is seriously comfy.

I work in a small compounding pharmacy, have a pension plan, 6 weeks of paid vacation a year, work on average 6 hours a day and work with 4 adorable techs. Wouldn't change a thing.

>>34991907
>Nope, our undergraduate degree (MBBS) is a doctorate. After you graduate you're entitled to use Dr. infront of your name, and you get partial registration with the GMC to practise.

And if you come to the US and complete a residency, you get handed an honorary-like MD which you can use professionally, since he MBBS isn't recognized here.

Of course, I'm a D.O., doctor of osteopathy -- which is a degree you don't have over there (except as practitioners of manual manipulative medicine), while in the U.S. we go through 4 years of medical school and become licensed physicians with practice rights identical to MD.

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>>34992013
fuck off idiot nobody asked for you opinion

pharmacists always do this, barge into threads and start spouting bullshit when nobody wants to hear from them

We are ALL gonna be laughing when a digital onahole replaces you in 5 years
even monkeys can count pills you worthless fuck

>>34978195
they don't even put pills in bottles, they have technicians do that

they get paid to look at it be like "looks good to me" or if it looks funny, call a doctor. that's it

Used my pharmacy degree to get a position in the FDA. Current salary $150k with full benefits, plus the bonus comfy of being a govt employee.

Honestly if any of you cucks in here are thinking about pharmacy school, don't go to work at walgreens or cvs. At least have some self-respect and get a hospital pharmacy position. If you have real balls, go for insurance, sales, VA, CDC, anything else that actually offers growth. Guy in my class got a job at Pfizer and is doing super well, much better than I am.

Who the fuck goes to school for 6-8 years to work at CVS? Are you retarded?

If you have money, do the PharmD/MBA > MD jump. It's a free ticket to administrative positions.

>>34977846
t.Brainlet NEET

wait why do you hate pharmacists lmfao???

>>34992015
Does osteopathy actually work? Over here its regarded as pseudoscience, like homeopathic medicine. Though there might be some overlap with chiropractors and physiotherapists

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>>34992190
>t.Brainlet NEET

NEETs are more valuable to society than pharmacists though
NEETs cost society much less than pharmfags demand in wages

>>34992248

DO's are all kids who failed to get into MD programs.

They have full prescriber rights and most work to climb the ladder, not really worry about the medicine aspectsd

>>34992259
it's comical how much you hate pharmacists

what a bizarre form of autism you have

It's the free pills that draws people in. Pills usually expire after about a month so they get to take a few bottles home.

>>34992248
>Does osteopathy actually work? Over here its regarded as pseudoscience, like homeopathic medicine. Though there might be some overlap with chiropractors and physiotherapists

the DO degree in the US is equivalent to a MD degree and they undergo pretty much the same training

in the past admission to DO schools was easier than MD schools but considering the degree has the same value that has changed in recent years

the stigma against DO degrees has however remained
at the end of the day it doesn't matter too much because they can be employed everywhere a MD can

>>34992259

>NEET
>valuable to society

I'm not even saying that pharmacists are needed in modern society, just that you are worth nothing and that you shouldn't think otherwise.

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>>34992363
>I'm not even saying that pharmacists are needed in modern society, just that you are worth nothing and that you shouldn't think otherwise.

fuck you idiot, you don't even realize our power. Don't talk about things you don't understand.

it is through the discussion of society in these online forums that change is driven, that ideas are formed, that policy is made

NEETs shape public opinion directly and can cause societal movements that the employed could never dream of accomplishing

Do not underestimate what I am capable of anon, or you may find yourself at the receiving end of NEET's collective wrath

>>34980761
Pharmacists earn a lot so they are harder to bribe and don't turn into drug lords.

>>34992259
I can't tell if you're joking or not.

>>34992294
His brother is probably a Chad pharmacist or something.

pharmacy takes 2 years

it's the easiest medical degree and nurses work harder

pharmacy is the easy way out and plan z

also the work style isn't my style. the level of patient interaction and care is nil. i hardly even consider them medical profession. yes people say it's good for girls and future wives, who will have a flexible job and good income, but i don't want to be doing that in "healthcare"

>>34992013
but before you got that comfy job, did you have to intern at cvs for a few years? i could never settle for pharmacy, it's whack.

>>34992440

>Don't mess with me, I have a ketona sword.

Ok edgelord

>>34992478
two years undergrad, 4 years of graduate studies

also yeah nurses work harder, but why would you want to work twice as hard for half the pay? idiot

>>34992514
>pill counter calling others idiot
idiot

>>34992529
i haven't counted pills in forever, that's a tech's job idiot

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>>34992603
>i haven't counted pills in forever, that's a tech's job idiot
ok go check if they counted the pills right idiot

>>34992514
because working in a shithole for money is not my ideal career. people who go for pharm want the easy way to money, when everyone knows it's not fulfilling at all. you are literally less intimate than a drug ATM

>>34992504

I'm imagining a diabetic samurai now. They would throw slin pins instead of ninja stars.

But he's right. You're just a dumb little gay wagie. All the great artists, philosophers, and scientists were neets. You wouldn't even be here shitposting if not for the neet Bill Gates.

>>34992719
Unlike a nurse, a pharmacist can never be replaced by a robot. It's a bit early to be concerned about that but job security is s bug deal after all.

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>>34992440
>fuck you idiot, you don't even realize our power. Don't talk about things you don't understand.
>
>it is through the discussion of society in these online forums that change is driven, that ideas are formed, that policy is made
>
>NEETs shape public opinion directly and can cause societal movements that the employed could never dream of accomplishing
>
>Do not underestimate what I am capable of anon, or you may find yourself at the receiving end of NEET's collective wrath

this
pharmacists could never compete against NEETs

I bet we could beat all these weak armed losers up in one day if we worked together guys, show them who is REALLY boss

real doctors and not these pill peddlers would probably support this

>>34992829
Pharmacy techs will soon take over. Pharmacists will no longer be needed.

>>34992829
either way, i scoff when pharmacists think their job is healthcare

the biggest disconnect. i see nothing about them which cares for patients. even pharmacology would have a better name, you study drugs. i would say it's the medium between research and patient care, but not doing either. it's just easy bux for lazy fux

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>>34992829
>pill counter unironically thinks that a robot couldn't count pills better than he could

stop pretending that you have any involvement with the choice or manufacture of the drugs you count and give to patients in little bottles

>>34992920
>the biggest disconnect. i see nothing about them which cares for patients
>this retard never heard about mtm or got counseling from a pharmacist on a medication

>>34992945
Robots will never have the finger dexterity to avoid crushing the pills as they pick them up.

>>34993005
counseling aka "read the back of the label"

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>>34993042
>Robots will never have the finger dexterity to avoid crushing the pills as they pick them up.

honestly I've never considered that before. Maybe pharmacists can keep their jobs for a few more years.

But robots are getting better pharmies... WATCH OUT...

I've even seen some robots that can count and sort coins and stuff, they are getting better

>>34992785

Yeah but Bill Gates didn't spend his free time shitposting, he worked on developing software. Diogenrs, aside from IRL shitposting by literally taking shits on the public place was a reknown challenger of his time's social norms and education. So much that he gained Alexander the great's respect.

See, the difference between those great NEETs and you is that these glorious NEETs did something out of their life and free time, they either aimed to be successful or aimed to actually make a change in their world.

You just shitpost on an imageboard nobody cares about on a website that's been hijacked by governmental agencies that use it to collect data and establish profiles about us. You couldn't actually be a better example of a docile sheep going on with his harmless business as big brother keeps its thousand eyes on him. The exact opposite of those great NEETs you're talking about.

None of you are revolutionaries. You are passive cogs in the system living on a life support system specifically designed to make sure you get what you need so you can keep quiet and never disturb the order.

Shitposting about normies is not activism.

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>>34993140
>>None of you are revolutionaries
look how many people I am redpilling against the con artists known as PHARMACISTS and then try to say I'm not a revolutionary

>>34993140
There's nothing that says that shitposting can't make you a billionaire.

>>34993254
>There's nothing that says that shitposting can't make you a billionaire.

there's nothing that says pharmacists cant be billionaires either

but let's be honest anon - neither group has the mental capacity or the work ethic to make it happen

>>34979729
>would universal healthcare lower the pharmacist wage?
no just like in the UK they would still be around

this is a global problem that will take significant legislative work to fix

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>>34979474
>Today my pharmacist grabbed a jar of rectal-sol and put it in a bag for me.
>Then I left. They stayed behind.

remember anon, they will sit in the back of that pharmacy for the next few decades of their life at least
and then they will retire feeling they've done good work for the world, giving people like you rectal-sol and bagging it for you

name ONE difference between a cashier and a pharmasissy.
Both have to:
a) count things
b) but things into little bags
c) collect money and put it into the register

>>34993005
I don't need counseling from pharmacists

their job is to give me the pills mt doctors prescribes, that's all. I don't want them to talk to me.

>>34983759
Where the fuck do you live in Canada that $6,000 per month is not great? I bet it's in Alberta, BC or Ontario.

>>34994208
that's your perception, that's not reality.

you can choose to be delusional, which you obviously have done

>>34994242
>that's your perception, that's not reality.

No anon, you are living under the delusion that pharmacists can prescribe medicine, they can't.

If their counseling was valuable they would have the ability to alter doctor's prescriptions but they can't, they just fulfill them

if pharmacists were so smart in your view how come they can't prescribe but doctors can?

>>34977846
Claus?

>>34992248
>Over here its regarded as pseudoscience, like homeopathic medicine.
Only about 10% of D.O.s in the US actually do osteopathic manipulative medicine, although it's still required as part of the training. I think some of it is useful, mostly for some kinds of musculo-skeletal pain plus a few other tricks. But I mostly refer out to someone who has the knack and the interest, which I don't really.

>>34992292
>DO's are all kids who failed to get into MD programs.
It's not something I like to think about much, but there is quite a bit of truth to it. The only kids who went straight to DO school either have some past history with it (a DO relative or role-model), or who have things in their background which made it really hard to go the MD route (me, starting medical school as a non-traditional student in later life, with some baggage).

For the record, I scored in the top 2% of the MCAT.

>>34978845
>doctors learn everything pharmacists learn
stopped reading here, nigga u wrong GPs don't know dick about esoteric drug interactions

>>34994396
>pharmacist still trying to defend his shitty sham profession

I can't wait till you people are locked up in prison for stealing so much from the healthcare system

>>34994421
How bad was the roast you got from the pharmacist when you tried to get your fix for free?

You're salty about something, holy shit.

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>>34977859
>immensley

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>>34994541
>You're salty about something, holy shit.

you want to know why I am salty anon? Because EVERY time I go to the convenience store I have to see your people sneering at me. I am SICK and TIRED of getting a smug stare from those FCUKING IDIOTS behind that counter every time I just want a candy bar.

And you know what anon? Other people are SICK and TIRED of you people abusing the system as well. Look at this thread. HUNDREDS of people HATE you and realize you add nothing to the medical system

I bet I could count pills SO much better than you could, I am such a fast counter I bet I could fill 100s of prescriptions at once. And I could get paid 100k for this because of how you people set yourself up in the system. Don't think we don't realize what you've done. When the healthcare system is reformed there will be no place for you.

I could easily take your job. But you know why I don't? Because I have MORALS. I don't because I want to get a REAL JOB that actually contributes to society instead of your STUPID job.

One day you people are all gonna be out on the streets wondering what went wrong, why people with NO SKILLS EXCEPT FUCKING PUTTING PILLS INTO BOTTLES failed.

you pill counters are worthless, ugly, and pathetic, you people of scam artists are deplorable and I can't wait to see you fail

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>>34980536

>Being rude to the person at the counter

The pharmacist very rarely rings people up themselves, and usually stays busy inside at the back while the techs deal with the customers. You were being rude to a poor pharmacy tech making $11 an hour being a wageslave.

>>34995726

Holy shit Anon, did a pharmacist brutally murder your whole family, or something?

>>34996516
>The pharmacist very rarely rings people up themselves, and usually stays busy inside at the back while the techs deal with the customers. You were being rude to a poor pharmacy tech making $11 an hour being a wageslave.

why aren't the pharmacy techs paid better if they do all the work?

another prime example of the shitty types of people which the pharmaceutical profession attracts.

Why is op so mad at pharmacists? I don't feel one way or another abou them but the salt is so real here one must have cut op real deep.

>>34996736
Not just OP, I hate them too

anyone with a brain should hate these worthless scum

>>34996780

But why?

Also stop samefagging op

>>34995726
You have some deepseated personal issues. No one gives a fuck about you and your candy bar.

>>34996813
>Also stop samefagging op
fuck you
you have no proof
I know for a fact that I am one of many people including OP who hate these worthless losers

>>34996952
>You have some deepseated personal issues
maybe if the pharmacist prescribes something for me I could fix that, but OH WAIT
THEY CAN'T PRESCRIBE MEDICINE BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING HACKS
THEY CLAIM TO KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT DRUGS BUT AREN'T EVEN LEGALLY ALLOWED TO PRESCRIBE THEM

>>34997077

Nobody else is this asshurt over a profession for no reason. You still haven't explained why you're sperging out over them so much.

>>34997188
I don't need to tell you anything you fucking pharamcist

you are the enemy of progress in this country

>>34997238

See >>34996952

Get help

>>34983759
Top lel. I make 70k a year as a tech writer. I did four years and got a BA in journalism.
That's a bummer for you cancucks

>>34994315
Top 5% on the PCAT here, felt good being better than 95% of normies

>>34996565

That crap happens everywhere. Your pay isn't based on how much hard your job is per se, it's based on how hard to come by your skills are.

Most people could flip burgers at McDonald's or stock shelves at Wal-Mart, so these jobs pay as little as they can. It doesn't matter how difficult or shitty they are, just that the skillset needed to do these things is very easy to find. On the other hand, jobs requiring college degrees or years of experience will pay very well, because few people have those things. Pharmacy techs only have to have a certificate. I believe they have to take a class and then pass an exam, not too hard to do.

So we have a world where a construction worker works much harder than a pharmacist, but gets about twenty percent of the pay that pharmacists do. Pharmacists have to go through a long and rigorous process to get their degree and license, so their rarity allows them to command outrageous salaries, even though they spend most of their day counting pills, making phone calls, and telling customers what the most effective cold medicine is.

>>34995726

What happened to make you so mad, Anon? Was a pharmacist really nasty to you, or something?

>>34997769
>Top 5% on the PCAT here, felt good being better than 95% of normies
pharmacists are normies

>>34998074

His parents are probably going to cut him off now that his application to the pharmacy program got rejected.

>>34998078
>pharmacists are normies
Pharmacy is the ultimate robot profession

>>34998074
>What happened to make you so mad, Anon? Was a pharmacist really nasty to you, or something?
I've never actually talked to a phamacist before honestly, other than routine checkups I've been perfectly healthy my whole life so there is little need for me to talk to them

I just hate them


>>34998175
Why would my parents want me to be a pharmacist lmao? Do your parents want you to be a garbage man?

Why do pharmies even exist. I would trust a computer to count and identify dangerous drug interactions.
I see threads shitting on fast food wagecucks over a wrong order. Yet I have family members that need immunosuppresants every day and pharmies routinely come close to fucking it up. How hard can it be to keep auto refills working on critical medicines?

>>34998361

So you're just being an angry sperg for no reason?

>>34981082
well desu the computers all check drug interactions nowadays since its impossible to do it by memory and we cant really trust people to tell us what drugs they are taking

>>34981178
you can actually get hired no experience, some places like CVS and Albertson's give you a training manual, you take the state test, become certified. They let you work while u study too. connections are huge, but its not rare to hire an outsider.

This is the best thread on /r9k/ so far, the autism is palpable

>>34977846

Worked as a pharmacy tech for a while, at a Neighborhood Walgreen's. We were only open until 10pm. Worked evenings. The Pharmacist I worked with double and triple shifted at different stores, took huge amounts of Sudephedrine to stay awake. Guy was a giant fat fuck. He needed the extra money to pay off his ex-wife, he wanted to keep his house. No chairs in the pharmacy and we were not allowed breaks. He would go behind this wall and lay down on the floor and let me certify the prescription. Just had to scan the barcode, check the original script and look at the picture on the computer screen, weigh the bottle to verify the weight, put the label on it and scribble his initials. He made me wear his lab coat. Used to council tons of patients at the drive thru, just had to read them the information printed on the paperwork stapled to the bag, he would listen and yell stuff for me to include. He got 125k and I was getting 18.75 an hour. Decided to go to school and get my PharmD. Organic chem was the fucking worst. Work now at a mail order Pharmacy, shorts and a Hawaiian shirt, never have to deal with patients or asshole Walgreen's managers. Great pay and I don't do shit, listen to podcasts all day. Work 10 12hr shifts and have 10 off. Walgreen's, CVS and Walmart are trying to get Congress to OK the creation of a "Retail Pharmacy Degree" would be 4 years and only allow to work in a Big Chain Pharmacy, no hospital or compounding work. Walgreen's is also trying to get, in California, the state Pharmacy board to allow, without any testing Pharmacy degrees from the Philippines and India. Sounds good. Coming soon, Minimum Wage Pharmacists.

"This is a Suppository, remove the foil wrapping and insert it into your anus with your pointer finger, be sure to insert your finger as far as possible"

"You're fucking kidding"

"No I am not, if it's too difficult for you have your wife insert it for you"

"Fuck you, asshole"

"Have a great night sir"

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>>34998378
If there is injustice in the world it is the duty of every informed citizen to actively work to end it.

The Pharmaceutical industry is corrupt and needs to be shut down and it starts by putting pharmacists in prison. Every single one of them needs to go.

they are worthless people who sit around and count pills all day and I do not like that we are paying them hundreds of thousands of dollars for what a monkey could do, don't let them trick you into thinking their job is challenging

>>34998361

They would if it paid as much as a pharmacist.

>>34998503

Why do you care so much that they count pills? You've been repeating it over and over the whole thread. And nobody works a job because it's challenging. They work so they can eat.

>>34998594
>Why do you care so much that they count pills?
because it triggers pharmacists and I hate them and I want them to get angry

>>34998662

Only person triggered here is you op

What a random thing to hate on, did a pharmacist take your oneitis OP? But anyway I'm a nurse and only had to take one general pharmacy class but it opened my eyes. It's ridiculous the amount of information pharmacists have to know and all the knowledge they need to practice safely. People who don't work in the medical field have no idea how much shit can go wrong so easily.

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>>34998677
>Only person triggered here is you op

I AM NOT TRIGGERED I AM PERFECTLY CALM IDIOT I am typing super normally there's nothing wrong with wanting pharm losers to SUFFER
I hate them so much anon they are so STUPID and they contribute nothing to humanity I want them to feel pain so strong their little tiny pills can't help them
I am not the only one that hates them many people do just look at all the people in the thread who agree with me because they deserve to be hated we should ALL hate these very bad people

>>34998713
you type like a woman

>>34998786

What do you contribute to humanity?

>>34992164
>FDA
>$150k
fucking how? ever since I did a rotation there I've wanted to work there and get paid to do nothing. but the pay-cut seemed to high vs. retail. how do you get payed that much?

>>34977906
If I got paid that salary the way I live right now I'd be saving almost 80k a year.

They're fucking dicks. They never have the prescriptions I want, they take forever, and once I get the damn med filled, they're like actually it's 500 dollars for this bottle. Fuck them!

I'm with op pharmacy is a stupid fuckin sham meme career
it's really a government invented job, a completely unnecessary middle man for all involved to make more money

one of the most normie ppl I know is almost done with it

yup you went to school and kept on the grind, learned to be a little busy bee learning nothing you'll ever likely retain, learning no useful skills, writing pointless essays and labs you'll forget about to go count fuckin pills at a counter because modern medicine and the government are in each others pockets to fuck people over.

good on you buddy, be a useless busy bee and get a useless job
I am I jealous of the pay they might be get? but I'll never respect the job

>>34998837
Not op but I don't see how that's relevant. That is classic what about ism. The crimes of pharmacists are not discounted by OPs life regardless of his contributions or lack of contributions to humanity

Everyone can agree that pharmacists NEED to pay

>>34999773
>They never have the prescriptions I want
druggie looking for narcotics
>they take forever
anxious and impatient. doesn't understand or respect the concept of a queue
>once I get the damn med filled, they're like actually it's 500 dollars for this bottle
either doesn't have insurance like a dumbass or blames the pharmacy for his shitty copay like a dumbass

>>34992498
CVS? I'm in Canada my man. I did two years of workplace experience placements throughout my education, mostly at small mom & pop type pharmacies, It was a pretty good time.

>>34992093
It sounds like you need to speak to your pharmacist, because whatever medication you're prescribed is obviously not working.

>>34999969
Why would he speak to a pharmacist? If he needs to get diagnosed to get medication he would speak with a doctor.

>>34999773
>never have the prescriptions I want
what does this even mean
You don't get to choose your prescriptions

>>34999773
fuck you in general

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>>34977846
Why is this at 300+ posts? Are there a lot of pharmacists on /r9k/ or something?

>all this trust for doctors
Doctors negligence kills more people than cops, terrorists and drunk drivers combined.

Pharmacists are trying their best to keep your doctors from killing you NEETs

>>35000814
People are fucking angry at pharmacists and you should be too

I hate pharmacists

>>35001180
lel why? The only reason I keep seeing in this thread is "they're overpaid."

>>35001277
>I hate pharmacists
this

>>35001391
>unironically wondering why people might hate those pretentious over educated pill counters who take 10 minutes to give you a little baggy they already have prepared

>>34994299
pharmacist prescriber you moron

>>35000889
Doctors are actually educated on what they should prescribe patients unlike pharmacists who just learn to put pills in bottles

Does anyone even know what pharmacists do?

>>35002548
>pharmacist prescriber you moron
they don't exist in the US, only in country's with shitty doctors

our doctors in the US are very good and we can trust them to prescribe things

>>34998516
>They would if it paid as much as a pharmacist.
plenty of government employees make as much as pharmacists

even some truck drivers make as much as pharmacists

>>34983085

the retard with the 2.5gpa, because they can keep the base wage low and when he fucks up too many times they can fire him and hire another retard. jokes on u fgt

fuck pharmacists