I gotta be honest he/she makes some decent points.

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Seems like a good idea until you realize you're suicidal because you're broke

>>34907687
>tfw fucked a lot of women because i wanted to die
>tfw got the idea after a while that i wanted love
>tfw finally fell in love
>tfw didn't want to die for a while
>tfw had it torn out of my heart by a manipulative bitch
>tfw back to wanting to die with the added benefit of being heartbroken
It doesn't matter, none of this matters

>>34907712
>you're suicidal because you're broke
Unless you're literally homeless, I'm sure you can scrape together maybe $100 or so and fuck some cheap hooker and do some coke before you end it all.

>I hate life and want to die
>"lol xd just live life brah"
Wtf kind of retard wrote this?

>>34907785
Being alive isn't the same as having a life. Go out and live, don't just be alive. That's what it's trying to say.

Or don't and just kill yourself in your moms basement. That'll show me!

>>34907687
You don't have to worry about me committing suicide YOU KILLED ME INSTEAD WITH THE WALL OF FUCKIN TEXT.

>>34907712
>tfw too broke to hero

>>34907687
id rather not talk to a stranger

dont have a boss

dont want to and probably couldnt fuck a slut

cant afford a parachute or bungie cord

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>>34907782

Or you could just fap and save the money.

>>34907687
everything he suggests would cost you money/remove your income/both

you have to fucking eat and sleep somewhere warm you fucking LYING NIGGER TRUST FUND FAGGOTS

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>>34907687
>normies can't even begin to understand psychological damage or mental illness
fucking shocking

>>34907687
When you are depressed/suicidal you don't want to do those things. The way I see it, in nature an organism's two most important biological roles are reproducing and not dying. Your body makes you thirsty so you don't die, makes you hungry so you don't die, makes you feel pain so you don't die, etc.

If you are to the point of wanting to kill yourself, you have convinced yourself that the effort of doing all those other things isn't worth it. You have convinced yourself that things are so bad and so impossible to fix that death is the only option. The pain is so great you will do anything to escape it.

The thing about suicide too, is that it's a permanent solution. You don't even need to build up to it. In many cases it's as simple as wondering what would happen if you pulled the trigger and then you're dead. It just takes a temporary lapse in judgement to go through with it.

That part has always seemed scary to me. Killing yourself is pretty easy. It wouldn't be that difficult to jump off a bridge or a tall building or something.

I don't know man, basically when you're depressed you don't want to go do shit like that because you know you won't enjoy it.

>>34907836
>saving money right before you kill yourself
And that's exactly the shit mentality you guys have lol

>>34907687

ITT: Stupid and selfish normies try justify someone taking their own life because "their life isn't as great as mine ;)" while being completely ignorant to the actual issues the person had

>>34907845
Maybe you don't want to do that stuff. But what reason do you have to not to???

>>34907801
You honestly must be no older than 16. Fucking hookers and doing blow doesn't fix the complete and utter monotony of life and the enless hours of wage slave suffering. It just dulls the pain with primitive pleasure for a few hours.

Suicide is really not a difficult concept to understand. When someone is suicidal it means they want to die. Telling them to just get a life means absolutely nothing. No amount of cheap pleasure could make them see life as something with continuing.

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>>34907687
>depressed people's brains are PHYSICALLY different from healthy people's brains
>lol why don't they just have fun?

I travelled the world, had several girlfriends, jobs, tried every drug/experience/therapy available to me.

None of it made me happy or feel better, Anhedonia is a fundamental part of depression so no, they aren't actually making any points beyond the usual bullshit. There was nothing more depressing than travelling across continents with girl's i supposedly 'loved' while still feeling dead inside. Every moment felt like nothing, every sunset kiss just made me colder.

>>34907887
Fine then. Quit your job and tell your crush that you love her. Go and read philosophy and realize how wonderful life is. Think back to how happy your childhood was and have children so that they can experience that same joy anon

>>34907877
I'm actually convinced you're retarded. That or trolling.

>implying depressed people want to do that shit
this is what normies dont understand

>>34907687
I am a neet and don't have the money to see the world. I will stick with blowing my brains out. Thank god I had the sense to buy a gun when I was still working.

>>34907687
I've had a period of 10 years where my depression got worse and worse and when something good happened in my life it only alleviated the pain of living for 1 week max, that it was back to painful emotional and physical existence with increased intensity. I was in a state where I felt completely alone and didn't trust anyone so I didn't have anyone to guide me trough the process of getting out (psychiatrists didn't help me because I wasn't able to express my pain to then so they thought I had a mild case of depression and meds didn't do anything to me)

Eventually I got to the point where l had to use my willpower and painkillers/benzos just to get trough the day and in that state where every joy you experience is a temporary pain relief suicide seems like the only option, that wasn't a life worth living. The OP makes a good point for someone with mild depression though.

>>34907912
Aw! I get it now. You are so depressed because you are a negative person. You need to let go of negative energy. Call people retards on the internet isn't going to make you less depressed. Go and tell someone they are beautiful. Tell your dad you love him. Or just give strangers compliments. One you get the warmth of a smile made by you you may feel less sad, overjoyed even

>>34907893

This is why people go insane.

Normies are just that deluded.

>tell my brother I'm depressed daily, want to die, have no friends or girlfriend nothing while point out he has friends and a wife and tell him "you don't understand at all how I am feeling"

>he literally gets angry and says "why don't you go and get what you want then instead of bitching?" "I had to work hard I had to do this blah blah" even though he had friends who got him a job and he wasn't socially awkward so he went out partying like every normie and got easy gf

They just don't understand. And when you point out to them how much they don't get it, they get pissed off.

The biggest irony of my brothers life is when he told me "aspergers and autism and your depression is fake" "just stop being a pussy"

then his daughter literally has aspergers and ADHD.

It's just laughable how they magically suddenly understand something you've tried to fucking explain to them for years.

Trying to talk to normies is like talking to a wall. You won't get anywhere.

>>34907949
Oh wow. Not that guy but you genuinely are a bit slow aren't you?

I thought like this and became a heroin addict for three years. Where ever you are that you think is rock bottom, it can get infinitely worse. There is no bottom... it just keeps going. I guess now that I've seen some horrendous shit I'm thankful for really basic things so there's that.

>>34907972
i know its a troll but the worst thing there are actually people who think like this

>>34907877
I feel like I explained in a nutshell the reason a depressed person wouldn't want to do those things. Part of depression is not gaining enjoyment from things that would normally make you happy. Also the OP post just assumes those are things that would make you happy in the first place. Different people find different things fulfilling and when you're in a depressed state you don't find anything fulfilling.

Also what kind of a dumb question is this? What reason do you have to not suck the first homeless guy you see's cock?

Sounds like a hassle tho. If I had the motivation to do that I woudlnt be suicidal desu senpai.

>>34907687
Never experienced depression nor do I even know anyone who fights with depression. But even I can understand why someone would want to kill themselves.

Why are normies so fucking braindead? Why does everything have to have some sort of optimistic outlook? Why are they so fucking shit scared of anything remotely "negative" (based on their shitty societal conditioning of what's good and bad)?

>>34907842
>you have to fucking eat and sleep somewhere warm

No you don't. This is talking about someone who is about to commit suicide. Who gives a fuck if they can't pay rent next week because THEY'LL BE DEAD BY THEN.

Take whatever little money you have and spend it, live it up even if it's just for 15 minutes. Or you can pay up your heating and rent and then kill yourself, because at least those things will be sorted, right?!

Again, this is what I'm trying to say.

>>34908177
>spend the last moments of your life in even more inconvinient circumstances
wow, great advice normie. should I be myself too just for the fun of it?

>>34908177
honestly its terrible advice, im not suicidal, but im very depressed. if i were suicidal i would do that, i would take the little money i have and blow it having fun, id be mildly happy for about a month but you see when its all over ill be in a much worse position ill be broke and homeless, with nothing left but a mere taste of the good life, if i was at all apprehensive about killing myself before i definitely would want to after that

>>34908177
there's no point in burning your money on frivolous shit because it wont solve anything. and on the chance it actually does make you feel better, you'll be fucked financially.

it's dumb on all levels

>>34908177
>Try and commit suicide after a week of blowing all your cash on hookers
>fail now you're poor homeless and have an std not a penny to your name
>can't even afford rope to hang yourself now

>>34907964
sounds like a lot of bs, 90% of the whining on here is "normies are stupid" "im too smart for them". then gets fucking anxious in any social situation for fear of judgement.

everything u hate about life u claim to not care about - contradiction?

"oh i have no social life" "i cant make friends"

wtf have u done to try?

"oh i cant get a job"

really? nothing? u cant work like a mexican slave for 6$ an hour? oh wait, ur too fucking precious for that

all u fucks are so precious and jump at the first chance to blame others for not understanding u. whats the different between u fags and the land whales who try and justify being fatfucks

>>34908299
i have a social life i have a lot of good friends, i have had jobs in the past, and still do in a way, i even exersize regularly, i eat well. im still not happy, also i dont blame anyone for my depression other than myself i am the problem. i try so hard to make myself happy but nothing works i can only take this so much longer before i just give up

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>>34908299

You don't seem to understand what his point is. Not having friends, a girlfriend or a social life is just added problems to the shitpile that is his life.

He is unhappy, maybe even depressed.

If you are unhappy and you know that the only way to ever have a CHANCE (a small one, at that) at being happy is to work hard as fuck for something that somebody else has already established/attained through minimal efforts is not an appealing thought. In this particular case that would be his brother's social life and girlfriend.

If that anon was that start building a social life at this point he would have to actively work for it and even then it can't be forced or sped up. You can't deepen a friendship by force or through sheer effort. His social anxiety doesn't exactly help this problem.

Let's say he goes out and actively works for it, something that his body has already conditioned him not to do so it will fight him every step of the way. Then it would still take approximately 3-5 years to get somewhere that might not even make him happy.

If he's truly depressed he can't enjoy the good things in life. Food loses its taste, jokes aren't as funny, your attention span shortens because you no longer finds anything interesting and the list goes on. Intrusive thoughts and backflashes of bad memories play on repeat in your head whether you want to think about them or not. This is not the same as being unhappy. This is a mental disease of the brain that causes dopamine and serotonin to not be released like they should.

>>34907687
Depressed people don't find enjoyment in anything and don't have any motivation.

>>34907687
go out with a bang?

So shoot up a place you'll be remembered and all that and I MEAN YOUR GOING TO DIE ANY WAY SO WHY NOT KILL PEOPLE AND EXPERIENCE WHAT IT IS TO TAKE LIFE BEFORE YOU DIE

>>34907687
Depression takes away any drive to do any of that shit, though.

>>34907687
This is the problem with normies.
>hurr durr go enjoy the world
You do realise people want to kill themselves because they dont enjoy the world? This lack of empathy is astounding
>oh but if you do something new you might find a reason to live!
Thats not how the brain works, if youre left without any stimuli for a long time you dont develop ways to respond to thst stimuli. This is why normies can find enjoyment in their everyday lives. Heres the most extreme evidence, this hasn't been tested due to ethics, and robot testimonies arent that good evidence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child)

>>34907687
Whonare normies to tell anyone if they can lobe or not. Its my life, ive never met you, why do you care? This is the normie ego folks, its obsessed with keeping its worldview, with keeping itself content, that it cant comprehend what it hasnt experienced. Human empathy is trash, ironically its why some become robots (bullying and ostracization)

>>34907877
B-because they dont want to? Whatd with normies and this "why not" type of reasoning? I thought burden of proof was a thing, i thought asking "why" was important

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>>34908751

I'm glad you get it anon.

>tfw just lashed out at some normie on facebook for saying "Just make life what you want to make it" when I put up a depression post and said I have no life
>he deleted the comments and will tell all his normie friends / my brother

I'm fucked over yet again.

It's like you want help but they do the opposite to help you. They do EVERYTHING they can to screw you over and shove you deeper into the pit. They never think "oh dam what I said which I thought was positive isn't helping this guy" "his severely down about this, maybe I should just apologize or say I hope you get better I didn't realize you were hurting so much" nope none of that. O shit I was wrong, better delete the post, delete him from facebook and tell all the normies his a weirdo and we can screw him over and make his family mad at him even more so he gets even more depressed!

This literally just happened.

>>34907949
The normie mind everyone
>XD I CAN ONLY BE SOURROUNDED BY POSITIVITY. YOU'RE BAD BECAUSE YOURE NEGATIVE, COME BE A BLIND SELF CENTERED HEDONIST LIKE ME

Good to see normies cant take the heat. Its like when youre critiquing something and you get called for being "too negative". Wow thanks, sorry for not coddling you like society has.

Welcome to the real world, people fail, and theres no participation ribbion

>>34908751
is he enjoying shittin on people on 4chan? is he enjoying watching porn? is he enjoying playing video games all day and watching anime?

are we saying that there is not an ounce of pleasure he gets from these things? he does it just to pass time? well, if its the latter, why not work to pass time and build something that could potentially make u happy,

if its the former then we have some one who does enjoy things, but dont want to work or put in effort to get things out of life

no one wants to work out at the gym for a good body, but most people accept the fact that you need to go through a period of discomfort to achieve something u want. most of these depressed fags on here simply want the world to change for them. theyre sitting around screaming "why do i have to work for a good body" "why do i have to work for money".

they never even accepted the fact that things in life take effort and thats just the way it is

suicide is the ultimate avoidance, pussys

>>34908299
>u
>ur

Oh dear, im not sure is this one belongs on reddit. Facebook maybe? Twitter?

>>34909027

t.normie

original normie comment

>>34907687
Becauseif everything is meaningless doing an "ebin" thing like insulting your boss is meaningless

If I believed in meaning I wouldn''t be here

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>Depressed people having the drive to do any of this shit
Inb4 "nah bruh you can just DO IT" because normies have no idea how drive works, especially in a depressed person

>>34909027
I was always the top student in HS and I still exercise daily to this say, fuck off with your bullshit, laziness =/= depression

>>34907687
This is extremely stupid and woefully ignorant. Suicidal people kill themselves because they are miserable and cannot enjoy life. I reiterate; they CANNOT ENJOY LIFE. Period. Their brain isn't producing the hormones necessary for happiness. The person who wrote this is a dumb normie who has never in his life experienced suicidal feelings.

>>34908982
Because normies are egotistical
>oh youre sad, i dont want to feel guilty for allowing you to rot, let me virtue signal

>...wait, my self centered attempts at giving you advice isnt working because i have no idea what youre going through? Are you saying that I dont have enough wisdom and empathy? Are you saying... That im WRONG? NO, YOURE WRONG. YOURE THE LOSER WHO DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING AND JUST WANTS TO LEECH SELF PITY
>MY WORLDVIEW IS FINE
>MY WORLDVIEW IS FINE
>MY WORLDVIEW IS FINE

>*mentally blocks you and does something to comfort themselves*

Wow thanks norman, thanks for showing how much you care by sticking through the hard times and trying to understand me.

This behaviour, of course, appilies to family as well. Humans are animals, and self preservation is key, physical and mental. Sorta like why cannibalism exists

>>34909116

If you're never depressed to begin with, why do you bother giving advice to depressed people? You don't even understand what depression is.

>JUST DO WHAT I DID, JUST STOP BEING LAZY

This is nothing but an insult to depressed people and this is why they despise people like you for having no understanding at all.

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>>34909027

If he is truly depressed he would not enjoy "shitting on people on 4chan", watching porn, playing video games or watching anime. Those would indeed just be things to pass the time.

>if that is the case why not work to pass time and build something could potentially make you happy

This is sound logic. However depression isn't logical. It leaves you a numb and almost empty husk with very little energy. Actively working towards a better future can actually cause you pain and even more of the memory loop of bad memories playing in your head.

If he isn't depressed you are absolutely right. He is just not taking it seriously and whining. If you're not working towards bettering yourself when you have perfect health (both mental and physical) you do indeed have nobody to blame other than yourself.

Of course, let's not deny that we are all to some degree limited by our genetics. A 5'2 guy will never jump the highest, a guy with low IQ will never win a chess championship and so on, no matter how much effort is put in.

Pic is somewhat related. The people in the right are all the same age as their counterpart on the left.

>>34909127
>If you're never depressed to begin with, why do you bother giving advice to depressed people?

I am depressed you retard, I'm disagreeing with that guy, his mentality is childish and implies that everyone strivers for a job or even worse getting le ebin pussy/casual sex, which, if anything, are things that make me demotivated

>>34909075
entertain me

how did u manage do find this elusive "drive" to come on 4chan

>>34907964
I hope you fuck with him about it, like telling him shit like "nah, your daughter is just stupid, aspergers and ADHD aren't even real!"

>>34907687
Basically
>i want to anhero
>xD stfu go enjoy life before

You do understand that people who anhero doesn't enjoy life ?
I don't gove a fk about fucking hookers and travelling and all that shit. Like how travelling is gonna make me feel good (btw i went and live in a new continent)

People anhero not because they didn't fk or travel but because no attention was never given to them.
Now go fk yourself normie.

>>34909128
>If he is truly depressed he would not enjoy "shitting on people on 4chan", watching porn, playing video games or watching anime

I only do 4chan and exercise now, stop with your retarded stereotypes

>>34909128
>
If he isn't depressed you are absolutely right. He is just not taking it seriously and whining. If you're not working towards bettering yourself when you have perfect health (both mental and physical) you do indeed have nobody to blame other than yourself.

Or maybe he isn't motivated to do such things?

Stop with your childish cathegorization of lazy=depressed

>>34909155
oh yeah because clicking a few icons on your computer is on the same caliber ad travelling the world

stop posting retard

>>34909027
Reeee spam filter is hating on me help
Is there a normie mod getting toasty at me?

>>34909185
all u depressed fags on here complain about how u cant fit in society or ur so abnormal u cant get anywhere in life

then u turn around and say "oh dont stereotype, its not about the jobs or social interactions, i just dont have the motivation, u dont understand"

but u wake up everyday with the motivation to log online, play video games, and post shit on 4chan as "entertainment"

but of course somehow u dont have the drive to gain "pleasure"

jobs and social interactions are not going to work for everyone, i agree, but u fags obviously do enjoy things, because u conjugate on here and circlejerk and love every second of it. whats stopping u from earning a living and post gay shit on 4chan for the rest of ur lives

>>34909213
why the fuck do u have to travel the world? LOL ure biggest complaints are "nothing is pleasurable" when u obv do get pleasure from fucking 4chan and porn and video games

>>34909245
>play video games

Haven't touched a videogame in months

WOw! it's almost like I did put effort all of my life and it gor me nothing!

I was the top student, I exercised (and still did) daily, I just didn't find most people fun to stay with, and I still don't, depression=/= lazyness, you retarded fuck, lazyness is basically not understanding the consequences of your actions, if a kid doesn't study or eats like a pig he does so because he doesn't understand the negative consequences, a depressed person knows very well what he's doing, he lacks desire completely, it's a different concept.


>u enjoy things?

Not really, no, I find most people unsufferable and all carreer paths almost equally boring and meaningless

>>34909245
>implying this hard
Go counter thst anons points, not everyone get pleasure out of the things they do dummy. You can easily tell wjat your worldview is
>live is all happy happy joy joy and if you say anything different youre just a bad person negative nancy!

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>all these depressed normies in here

I'm happy as fuck and I literally just browse 4chan all day and work out.

No friends but I'm married to a qt asian woman. Doesn't really count me as a normalfag though because asians are handed out to white men like candy. I didn't really have to work for it.

>>34909272
You're just an idiot do I know it's useless to argue with you.

But 4chan is something people do just because it doesn't require any effort, it's like staring at a wall tier but it keeps your mind midly busy so you don't go crazy but it's not like we derive pleasure from it

>>34907712
Rob people.
Get fit and just grab that hand bag off drunk sluts going home from a pub.
buy a gun, rob a store.

You're going to die anyway nah?

>>34907687
>critiquing suicide from the viewpoint of someone with no reasons to do so
May as well ask men to critique the way women act when they have PMS.

>>34909311
ok, pic of her(male) penis then

>>34909289
once again fucktard, ure on here equating social life, and careers with things that make u happy, not one said those fucking things should make u happy, u can be happy doing whatever the fuck u want

lacking desire? u had enough desire to log on to 4chan today and comment on these posts didnt u?

>>34909294

no one is saying this is hard. re-read all ur fellow depressedfags comments and the common theme is "im depressed because i dont have pleasure". and i simply pointed out the contradiction that 4chan it self must give a sense of pleasure, because if its a chore or a hassle or something u find lame and boring then u wouldnt be on it.

nor am i saying u have to be happy 24/7, all ur little depressedfag friends keep saying ure depressed because u cant find fucking pleasure. learn to debate u fuckwit

>>34909383
One again, fuckwit, your argument doesn't exist

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>go out with a bang
>get on the airplane

I think I see what she means.

>>34907910
my childhood wasn't happy

my mom used me as a sextoy for her and her friends

my dad showed me porn when i was 4/5

my brother practiced kissing on me

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>>34909245

The guy you replied to is not depressed and is not representative of the depressed. He is just an unmotivated cunt who feels he's been wronged in life. Maybe that's true, maybe life has dealt him a very bad hand to play with but that's beside the point.

Since you didn't understand my previous post I'll say it in the most simple way I can:

Depression takes away the joy you used to feel from things that you used to enjoy. Video games? Boring. Sex? Nope. Food? Tastes like nothing. You literally don't feel pleasure anymore. From anything.

>>34909383
>no one is saying this is hard
>response to >implying this is hard
>using "u" instead of "you"


At first I thought this was bait, but it think this guy's is legit. Kek normies are always a marvel to look at

When did you get here norman? Elloit rodger? Some of you guys are alright? Go back to tumblr, your intelligence would fit better there