Let's talk about SSRIs

Anti-depressants were a mistake.
Take real drugs or take none at all.

>>34790737
your pic is false and SSRI's are just drugs that dont get you (that) high and numb you to lifes problems, smoking weed is the equivalent to taking them, but probably less damaging to your mind over time.

>>34790737
Ssri's worked because you got a gf

Yeah, its a pretty simple neurological system. An artificial, unvarying amount of serotonin tells your reproductive system that you're satified, constantly. your sex drive is ancient and based on simple serotonin circuits that are more active when serotonin is at a deficit.

That being said, in my personal experience, I've been off and on them since I was 14 and I've found after a couple of months the desensitisation has mostly gone away and my orgasms are considerably better than no SSRI

>>34790737
ever think ur cock isnt getting back to normal because ur getting old

>>34790768
really? they work as well as weed?

>>34790831

That's the reality I try to ignore. I'm only in my t-thirties, r-right?

I was given seroxat by a therapist and besides making it harder to orgasm and occasionally feeling nauseous they didn't help my depression or anxiety at all. Weed used to work a lot better before it started giving me panic attacks and paranoia.

>>34790768
You have /literally/ no idea what you're talking about you retarded teen

>>34790850
sorry anon, in reality its probably the ssri drugs, 30 shouldnt be decreasing erection size imo

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>SSRIs made me gay

I'm still not sure what the point of them was
I took them for 2 years
>made me more tired
>made me more hungry
>gave me random fevers
>gave me shock sensations when on the higher doses
They never did anything for my anxiety. If anything, the above effects made my anxiety worse. And then I would get more depressed because of the anxiety. so I never got anything good from SSRIs.

>>34790890
thats the podesta plan afterall if ur gay he can get all the grills

>>34790890
Is this possible?
Answer me

Im taking alventa and my cock is hard as rock

>>34790920
Which SSRI? Pretty much all of them activate the 5-HTc2 receptor which causes anxiety and negative moods, for about 2-6 weeks until that receptor becomes "desensitised" and thats when the positive effects begin.

Its not unusual for it to take 3 different SSRIS till you find one that suitable for you specifically. Maybe you dont need them, but you shouldn't tell yourself that they dont work because I promise you they will.

>>34790753
This. Current widely available treatments for depression are fucking terrible (SSRIs, MAOIs, tricyclics etc).

If you want to CURE your depression, not just treat it, then you need one of the following:
>Ketamine (>80% efficacy in curing treatment reistant depression)
>LSD (What I used personally, 150ug annihilated my depression and accompanying existential crisis instantly in a single dose)
>Psilocybin mushrooms
>Ayahuasca

SSRIS turned me into a normie but that doesn't mean it was good. Behold... went out my critical thinking skills, acted on emotions, had low testosterone, anxiety levels were even worse, was more expressive and had low libido. In other words, I lived how a nu male cuck lives. Fuck SSRIs.

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I've taken both Escitalopram(as Cipralex) and Sertraline. I don't think I really noticed any changes at all while taking them, in mood or side-effects(aside from Cipralex making me super sleepy with alcohol). I also quit each of them suddenly without noticing any changes as well. I still have about a third of a bottle of Sertraline sitting in my desk left over from 2013.

I've never taken SSRIs and I can't cum from sex lel

>>34791134

This is clearly the way it's going. In the future we'll look back and ask why we let previous generations suffer on SSRIs when we knew the cure.

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>>34791134
Why do people always say that psychedelic drugs cure your depression

I've tripped a number of times and it's a lot of fun but it didn't do anything for my depression. When it was over I was back to my normal depressed self

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>>34791134
>>34791331
I have tripped on LSD and DXM several times. They are interesting experiences but I am more depressed than ever desu

My life is falling apart and I don't have the motivation to even try to do anything anymore.

>>34791331
LSD does nothing for depression, MDMA and Shrooms are a good treatment, they're better to take on occasions than SSRIs in my opinion, but people who say they're "cures" are cancer

>>34791437
I've done those as well. Like I said it was a fun time but when it was over I felt the same as before if not worse.

>>34791331
Because there's a growing huge amount of evidence that they do cure depression. We've known about their potential therapeutic benefits for depression, anxiety, and addiction since the 50s/60s when there was a huge amount of research going into them, particularly LSD.

The mechanism behind it is fairly unknown, but for ayahuasca at least (probably similar for other serotonergic psychedelics like LSD/shrooms) it results in an upregulation of serotonin receptors and increased sensititivy of existing receptors, so your serotonin is effectively made more potent after the experience.

My questions to you would be do you have clinical depression or just low mood? Also what did you trip on? I can't imagine psychedelic amphetamines (or similar RCs that are very common) having the same effect as the classic serotonergic psychedelics (LSD, shrooms, ayahuasca).

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>>34791451
That's unfortunate anon.
Weekly/bi-weekly shroom trips keep my feels at bay.
MDMA is for when I'm feeling like swallowing a gun and it always helps.

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>>34791476
Fuck ayahuasca, just smoke a fuck load of NN-DMT first, if it doesn't help, move on to the sacred tree juice

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>>34791476
>My questions to you would be do you have clinical depression or just low mood?

Both I think. I have seen a therapist who diagnosed me with depression.

>Also what did you trip on?
LSD, shrooms, MDMA, DXM

I found DXM to be the weirdest but also the most soothing and had the easiest comedown. But it also made reality feel not quite the same again.

>>34791437
I might be wrong here but I haven't read anything suggesting that MDMA is good for depression in the long term or short term, I mean sure it'll make you feel godly euphoria for 3-4 hours, but it depletes your body of serotonin which causes most people to feel depressed as fuck after having taken it, sometimes for up to weeks. MDMA is great for treatment resistant PTSD though.

LSD and shrooms act on the same receptors, the difference in effects is due to structure activity relationship, but they're both serotonergic psychedelics and they've both been documented to be of benefit in treating depression, although I'm not sure if one is better than the other.

Compared to current medication, like SSRIs, SNRIs, MAOIs, tricyclics, then psychedelics effectively are a tantamount to being a cure for a lot of people. They're not going to work for everyone, but compared to the former group of compounds you need less exposure, there's less side effects, and they're generally a lot more effective.

>>34791515
Ayahuasca is vastly different from smoking DMT. Smoking DMT is incredibly recreational, ayahuasca is not. It's not just the DMT in ayahuasca that's psychoactive, the harmala alkaloids that allow DMT to be orally active are also psychoactive in their own right and probably contribute a lot to the positive effects most people feel after having taken it.

>>34791531
If you have clinical depression and psychedelics haven't done anything for you then maybe try exploring ketamine. I know someone who's taken everything under the sun (SSRIs, SNRIs, MAOIs, tricyclics, psychedelics, ketamine) and he's still depressed, some people just don't respond to anything I guess. But ketamine is incredibly promising as a depression treatment, probably even more so that psychedelics.

>>34790737
>had sex
please leave this board

>>34790737
Paxil made me feel awesome but I prefer tricyclics

>>34791656
Isn't ket similar to dxm in that they are both dissociatives

Dxm was a lot of fun and I really enjoyed it in some ways, but it also destroyed any motivation and ambition I had left that depression hadn't sucked already. It's been over a year and I still feel like an apathetic, empty husk

>>34791706
Yeah they're both dissociative in their effects, but they're massively different in structure. They probably bind at different sites with different affinities and that's enough to give a different response after dosing.

>>34791656
i feel like i would react well to any anti depressant i just need a slight change in perspective

>>34790737
Yep, same deal. SSRI's fucked me. Lexapro especially. I don't know if my dick shrank or if I just cant reach full erection anymore... But I'm inclined to think it legit shrank my cock.

Ruined my already poor confidence.

Guess I'm a permavirgin though so it doesn't matter too much

>>34792175

Dicks never shrink for good. If it were the case, we would see tons of sissies trying to get SSRIs.

>>34790737
>be 2015
>have severe depression
>be prescribed Sertaline
>take it for like a week
>completely removes sex-drive
>can get hard, can't cum
>had to stop because of the side effect after 5 weeks
>became a complete zombie too

why are these medicines so useless ? It doesn't help against depression, it turns you into an unreactive, unresponsive and unemotional zombie.

>>34790737
>Still hard to cum after I've been drinking
That's literally everybody ever

>>34792319
In fairness they do help some people, but overall they're orders of magnitude from being ideal.

When I was on fluoxetine I went from being mildly suicidal to being completely overwhelmed with suicidal thoughts every minute of every day for about 2 weeks before I took myself off it. The thing I find most disturbing about SSRIs is the fact they give them to people who are suicidal when one of the most common side effects is an increase in suicidal ideation and behaviour.

>>34792351
How was that drug ever passed into the masses with such a side effect ?

I find it super easy to cum if i also need to piss

SSRIs are mostly placebo. Serotonin might be the hormone to make to feel good, but consciousness is far more complex than that. Eventually you will reach you mental baseline on it.

>>34792175
Shrunken dick? No. Worse erections? Not unheard of if you were on SSRI/SNRI for a long time.

>>34791706
>>34791656

>dissociatives

Question, if I already experience mild amounts of dissociation, will those just make it worse? I'm scared of losing my attachment to reality.

>>34792417

Thats your prostate. When you have a full bladder it can push on it producing good feelings.

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>>34792437
>SSRIs are mostly placebo.

Not true at all. There are countless scientific studies proving their efficacy clinically and biochemically. Stop talking out your ass, please.

>>34790888
trips confirm that these robots know nothing about antidepressants

>>34790768
What? Dude, not even close. Weed activates cannabinoid and dopamine receptors, not serotonin receptors.

On monday I'm suppose to start 300mg serequel will my dick stop working? Also heard weight gain anyone try this before?

>>34793997
Seroquel is an antipsychotic, not an SSRI. Weight gain is commonly reported, but erectile dysfunction isn't; that's more of an SSRI thing.

>>34790890
I was on discord with a robot who claimed they made him gay lol hmmm

>>34793671
It's not common but dissociatives and psychedelics can induce periods of intense feelings of dissociation. It's a risk for everyone, and I don't know how someone would react if they're already experiencing dissociation.

I'd imagine it could be beneficial since feelings of dissociation are fairly commonly present in depressed people, and both substances can be incredibly therapeutic for depressed people. But don't take my word for it. If you're planning on doing either then I'd do plenty of research before taking the plunge, this kind of applies for everybody but I think if you're already not feeling 100% mentally sound it should be emphasised.

>>34790890
>>34790966

If you're gay then you're gay, maybe SSRIs stopped him denying the reality of it. No drug will make you permanently gay if you weren't already part of the way there.

>complaining about depression through the fact that you were taking SSRI's while also complaining about not being able to cum with your gf

Normies need to leave. Now.

>>34794082
Surely you'd agree that if you have an uggo gf you can still be a robot, right? I feel like you're only a normie if you have a normal relationship.

>>34794026

>dissociates
>CAN induce disassociation

?? Wouldn't that be their primary side effect, seeing as how its what they're named after?

>>34794106
No, not really. You probably haven't been here for that long, but realistically, within the last 4 years, the idea of a "robot" has been tainted beyond repair.

Previously the three groups had an almost set in stone definition, but now it has blurred because normies wanting to argue that they're actually losers too, despite their successful lives where they've got friends, have had gf's, and are on their way to building careers and generally enjoying what they do. It makes it obvious that normies wanting to have pissing contests over who's the biggest loser with actual fucking losers is an old thing now because of the whole ironic "man I'm a failure, I have anxiety and can't deal with people, and I want to kill myself and express that by liking ironic memes on tumblr and facebook" is pretty much everyone on youtube, twitter, facebook, and instagram and has been for the last year.

Just because you call your gf an "uggo gf" doesn't mean you're any less normie than the next person with a gf strictly because the fact that you've managed to get one.

>>34794261
I respect that response. Thanks for answering civilly.

>>34794243
Well yes when you're under the effects of them, what I meant to say was that they can make you feel dissociated for extended periods of time even after the substance has eliminated from your body.

will SSRIs really make me have no interest in sex and women?

this is what i want.

>>34794363
They decrease libido in a lot of people who take them. Self medicating with them is a bad idea though, if that's what you're considering doing. Look up serotonin syndrome.

>>34794306
Thanks for responding civilly too, anon. Usually you can't post anything like that anymore without half the thread getting mad because they fall under that "le 7 layers of post-ironic suicidal depression" shit while complaining about how never having loved at all is better than losing your love and throwing whatever excuse that they can to make it seems like their friends aren't actually friends despite spending a fairly regular amount of time with these people that supposedly hate the poster.

I'm just drunk and being autistic right now so I'm sorry.

It's probably just mental, OP. There's very little chance that SSRIs permanently affected your body.

I've been on and off SSRIs and other antidepressants to deal with PTSD for literally 17 years now (I'm kind of old). I'm also a former drug addict (clean for many years, thank god). I've done just about every common drug on the planet, in huge large amounts. That was a long, long time ago, however.

Trust me, SSRIs don't have a permanent affect on your erections. The best thing you can do is (i) only fap once a week, and (ii) get WAY more exercise. Fapping too much makes it harder to cum and makes erections weaker. It just does. Keep yourself to once a week, if that. Huge difference.

Also, you should be running a minimum of 20 miles a week (I'm at 40), and lifting 3x a week. This will have an enormous difference. If you're overweight at all, that also makes your erections weaker.

>>34794414
Nah man don't apologize, that post made complete sense. At the risk of getting everyone pissed off, I'll admit that I'm what many here would consider a normie (though I really don't feel like one). For a long time I wasn't, though. I've lurked this board since about 2010, back when I was in undergrad and truly embodied robot-hood. I guess the point I'm trying to make here is that I understand where you're coming from. The pissing contests and general normie influx are real, and they both bother me a lot; this place needs to remain a safe haven for social outcasts. I do wish there were more people with a positive outlook so some robots could turn their lives around and "graduate" from this board, though.

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>>34790890
THEY'RE TURNING THE FROGS GAY

>>34791134
While I love psychedelics this is like advising someone who needs a job to start playing blackjack professionally.
It might work but I vehemently disagree.

SSRI's fucked my brain up, i swear.

Took them for a few months back in 2005ish and my brains been foggy as fuck since.

I used to be somewhat clever and be able to talk fluidly. Now it takes me a few seconds to find my words and then i end up screwing up some.

>>34794808
Psychiatric drugs have some of the shittiest side effect profiles of any pharmaceuticals out there. I'm so sorry, anon. The best advice I can give you is to try to exercise more.

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>sex is so important to you that you'd kill yourself over it

I hope you do kill yourself desu

>>34794720
>this is like advising someone who needs a job to start playing blackjack professionally.

Elaborate?

>>34794808
I'm exactly the same. Been taking sertraline for around 3-4 years now and while it has reduced my depression and anxiety, it's fucked my memory up, and has generally made me slower, yet I can barely function without it. Fuck this gay earth. I would kill myself, but I don't want to traumatise my family and make them feel what I've been feeling for ages.

I just want to be able to focus.

>>34790847
Not that anon but when I made the switch I didn't look back. Consider too how expensive weed is to antidepressants, I would not pay that money if it didn't work. I was on antidepressants even though I'm autistic and shouldn't have gone anywhere near them because I was already low energy. Weed doesn't make me a zombie and makes me actually want to do things like clean and socialize.

>>34790737
You know what else helps increase the brains ability to restructure itself?

What has been proven to show an increase in grey matter and reduction of activity in the amygdala (anxiety/fear center of the brain) in just a month?

Meditation.