The robot's guide to grooming and personal hygiene

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FACE:
Wash your face daily. If you suffer from acne, speak to a dermatologist and get that shit treated properly. Clearasil and other OTC acne treatments usually don't do shit.

Shave regularly. Every 2-3 days is fine. A bit of stubble looks good. A full blown beard does not. You don't look manly, you just look like a bum. Shave that shit. The only reason to grow a full beard is if you're hiding a really weak jawline or acne scars or something. If you absolutely must grow a beard then at least maintain it properly. Beards are usually breeding grounds for bacteria. Wash that shit daily and trim it to keep it tidy.

Trim your nose hair and ear hair if you have any. Clean out your ears with Q tips.

BODY:
Try to shower every day. Use soap and scrub your pits, crotch and buttocks areas. Trim your pubes as often as you cut your nails (once a week or so). Generally you shouldn't need to trim your body hair but if you are excessively hirsute (i.e. you look like a fucking gorilla) you might want to consider waxing or laser hair removal. Chest hair is fine but a hairy back is not attractive. Get rid of it.

Keep your nails and toenails trimmed. Long nails are disgusting and harbour bacteria. Pay special attention to your feet. Most men's feet are rancid as fuck. If you suffer from athlete's foot or some sort of fungal infection get that shit treated ASAP.

Workout. Building muscle and losing fat is only going to improve your appearance. Not to mention that you will get a rush of endorphins after working out that will lead to a boost in confidence. You'll look great and feel great. Just fucking do it nigger.

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FASHION:
The most important thing to remember here is: BUY CLOTHES THAT FUCKING FIT YOU. So many guys (especially Americans) wear clothes that are 2 sizes too big. You are not a gangsta rapper you dumb nigger. Your clothes should fit you snuggly. They should not be skin tight or constrain your movements but they should not be baggy or hang off you either.

Try to dress like an adult. Keep it simple. Avoid bright colours and fancy designs. Avoid anything with logos or writing on it. You should look good in plain jeans and a t-shirt as long as they fit you well.

Don't overdress. You don't want to look like a teenager but wearing a three piece suit to a casual social gathering is probably even worse. When in doubt just go for business casual.

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>what is Google
Refer to pic related

>>34773684
Some of this stuff I already do, and the rest I'm willing to consider.
Except for cutting my hair every month, that's not only fucking expensive but also I hate getting it cut and it always looks retarded for at least a week usually two.
I'll have two or three weeks of hair I like the look of before I have to ruin it again.
I'll stick to doing it a couple times a year, it looks fine.

>>34773766
Fuck off then

>>34773777
Don't just consider it, do it.

Also, checked.

>>34773726
What kind of clothes should I get if i'm kinda chubby for the time being?

>>34773925
Just make sure you cover the basics: get a few pairs of jeans and chinos that fit. Go for straight fitting regular waist, avoid skinny or slim jeans if you're chubby. In fact, you should probably avoid them altogether unless you're in an indie rock band.

Get a few plain t-shirts and get a blazer. Like I said, go for business casual if you're in doubt.

Obviously, you should also try to lose weight anon. Watch what you eat and do some cardio.

>>34774032
Alright thanks bud, i'll look into that

>>34773684
Just want you to know I appreciate you Op

Ty op I do a few of these things already but this gives me even more motivation to start working out

>le snappy and demanding guide to x subject
didn't this shit fall out of fashion with maddox' website

>>34774890
>>34774540
Glad I could help.

Bumping so more robots can benefit from this.

>>34775078
It's not demanding. It's just basic shit. You'd be surprised how many robots never learned basic hygiene and grooming. It's not something they teach in schools.

>>34773684
How will having a clean face will make me talk to humans?

>>34775133
It won't. But if/when you do talk to humans, it will prevent them from being utterly repulsed by you.

>>34773684
>FACE:
>Wash your face daily. If you suffer from acne, speak to a dermatologist and get that shit treated properly. Clearasil and other OTC acne treatments usually don't do shit.

Pretty difficult tbqh senpai when you've had facial eczema for the past 2 years.

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Do I look like shit?

>>34775323
Are you a brit?
you look fine to me.

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>>34775273
What is difficult? Washing your face or seeing a dermatologist? If you suffer from eczema you should already be seeing a derm. Your other option is to buy treatments from an online pharmacy.

>>34775323
If you want an honest critique you need to lose weight and get a tan.

I suggest eating carrots and drinking carrot juice for a better complexion.

>>34775323
Nah man, you look good.

>>34775171
Whats the point of that? I thought I shouldnt give a fuck about other peoples opinions? You normies are really inconsistent

>>34775397
I'm actually russian

>>34775435
Thanks man, I'll try eating carrots and vitamin D, it's just winter so not much sun out

>>34775435
Post a picture of yourself, I want to see what I should aspire to be. These are good tips btw. Most are common knowledge, but hey.

>>34775464
Nobody is forcing you to do anything faggot.

Taking care or your appearance is something you should do for yourself first and foremost. The reason people like people who take good care of themselves is because it demonstrates that the person respects themself.

And if you don't respect yourself, nobody is going to respect you.

>>34775456
Thanks man, I appreciate it.

This comment is now original

>>34775483
Sorry, but I'm not going to post a picture of myself on le 4chins. You understand why I'm sure.

Besides, there are plenty of guys more aesthetic than me if you're looking for inspiration.

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>>34775586
No problem, man.
I'm pretty inspired now anyway.

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I try to shave my mustache but no matter how thoroughly I shave I can still see stubble. When I touch it it's smooth but I can still see the stubble. It sucks because I have really bad facial hair growth and any kind of stubble looks gross on me.

>>34775323
You look a bit slavic

Overall decent looking, it certainly won't hold you back

If you want to change something then try getting a tan or improving your complexion as the other anons said, and maybe look into different haircuts

How often should you wash your hair?

I have a bit of a dandruff problem and I've heard that in that case I should wash it every day with anti-dandruff shampoo.

Doesn't make your hair weaker and shit though?

>>34773684
MAKE SURE YOU GUYS WASH BEHIND YOUR EARS AND CLEAN YOUR EARS EVERY DAY.
dont make the same mistake i did :(, people are cruel

>>34775814
I wash mine every 2 days, it depends on hair complexion and how much you sweat

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>>34773684
>>34773715
>>34773726
OP here. Realised I forgot a couple of things...

TEETH:
Brush your teeth twice a day. AM and PM. Use mouthwash and floss in the evenings. You should visit a dental hygienist at least every 6 months and have your teeth professionally cleaned and checked. If your teeth are discoloured, consider getting them whitened. If they are crooked, consider orthodentistry. Having straight white teeth is a huge boon to your appearance. If you cannot afford cosmetic dentistry, consider financing options. Another option worth noting is whitening strips which can be purchased online. Mr Blanc is legit.

BO:
Apply deodorant under you armpits after you shower. I prefer roll on but if you do use a spray don't overdo it. Axe/Lynx is overpowering.

Apply cologne/aftershave before you head out. A couple of sprays on the wrists and a dab on the neck behind the ears is ideal. Again, subtelty is key here. Your fragrance is something that people should only smell when they are in your personal space NOT when you enter a room. If you don't know what fragrance to buy, go to a shop and ask to try the samples. I personally have several fragrances that I wear depending on the occasion.

>>34775761
help me with this please

who the fuck doesn't know all this shit already, if they aren't doing this its because they don't care, not that they are confused or ignorant

>>34775761
>>34776406
Shave with a triple bladed razor, not an electric shaver. You should not see stubble if you're doing this correctly.

Whatever you do, don't let your facial hair get to that length. It looks mangy.

>>34776487
I always shave with a triple bladed razor. I either have transluscent skin or my skin has swollen up in my mustache area so that I can't shave at the root

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>>34776195
>If they are crooked, consider orthodentistry.
>tfw considering orthodontic jaw surgery

>>34775323
Look like a normal person senpai just lift brah not even lying you already look alpha af

>>34773684
why do you make these threads , you stupid faggot ? why ? get a fucking life you worthless scum ! you really think these people dont know hygiene ? kill yourself !

>>34775761
Shave with the grain, then against the grain.

>>34776633
Cool your autism, faggot.

As surprising as it may sound, plenty of people either don't know or don't practice proper hygiene.

>>34776664
I'm gonna try that tomorrow, thanks

Is deodorant really necessary?

>>34775814
Use braggs apple cider vinegar for dandruff, almost as effective as coal tar but it doesn't give you cancer. I've had dandruff most of my life and besides coal tar it is the only thing that works.

Hey OP, nice thread. Could you help me here. What Should I do If I have a very oily skin? I wash my face regularly but after half an hour or less it's oily again. Also I have black spots all over my nose. Actually, i'm not really sure if they are black spots or just open pores, maybe a little of the two. Anyway, fuck you dad for giving me your shit genes, you fucking manlet.

>>34773684
>Buy the strongest anti-dandruff shampoo you can from your local supermarket and use it
That shit always made it worse. Washing with only cool or cold water cleared my dandruff up over time.

>>34776785
yes yes yes YES YES

PLEASE

YOU FAT FUCKING NECKBEARDS AND YOUR TOXIC MIASMA MIXTURE OF STALE JIZZ, DECOMPOSED SWEAT AND CHUNKY SHARTS MAKE ME SICK

AUTISM IS ONE THING

YOUR BODY ODOR IS A WHOLE OTHER THING

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>34776785
you may not sense it but you smell af even if you sweat not much

>>34776823
Just ignore the black spots, I have them too and have scars from constantly picking at them when I was a teen.

>>34775761
I, for one, appreciate mustaches.

>>34776785
The xenoestrogens will give you manboobs, it's a jewish trick like the fluoride in toothpaste

>>34776851
>>34776853
I haven't left my house in over 7 years so I've never had to think about my hygiene, but I'm starting school in a few days and this is good to know. I'm going to use a deodarant

>>34776890
I can't grow one though

>>34776834
From what i've heard the bad dandruff only comes when you stop using the shampoo every day or two. Head and Shoulders is a good example, apparently it fucks with your hair if you stop using it.

>>34776823
There are facial soaps designed for people with oily skin. You should look into them. Keep in mind that washing your face with ordinary soap can actually exacerbate the problem since it will dry out your skin and your body will produce more oil to compensate.

As for the black spots on your nose you can get those strips that girls use to cleasne your pores but honestly I find that just washing your face daily is enough. You don't need to go overboard with face masks and shit. You're not Patrick Bateman.

>>34776823
Go to swimming pool, chlorine in water will dry it.

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>bothering with hygiene or fashion when you have below average bone structure and/or bad beard genetics

>>34775323
textbook betacore

>>34776984
>>34777033
Okay thank you. Have a (you).

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Its cool that you guys want to groom yourself, smell better, dress better and so on... but don't kid yourself that it will fix anything - the bottom line is height = looks > status even for "serious" relationships.

This thread is the typical "Damnn these guys need HELP and I can give it them because I can talk to girls AND THEY TALK BACK!" Chad shit. I can't stand new generations of robots being scammed like this.

>>34776972
That sounds like some bs

Stop putting the liquid jew in your hair and use cool water

>>34776823

not OP. just drink more water, stop eating food with sugar in it. exercise and keep showering and also change ur pillowsheet every few days cause your face smears oil on that for hours while ya sleep so wash it breh

>>34777289
Good advice. Thanks.
Oregano.

>>34777226
I've yet to test it out so I believe it's bullshit myself, wouldn't surprise me though.

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>>34773715
Is my beard acceptable? And yes I know I need a haircut.

>>34773684
I don't do any of these things and I still got a gf.

>>34777435
The beard is nice

Your hairline is fucked though, my condolences

>>34773766
>he can't run at 300mph
dude stop being so fat

>>34776823
I wash my face twice a day, and use a non-comedogenic moisturizer afterwards. You can find it at any pharmacy.

>>34777482
Yeah my hairline isn't great. So far I'm able to hide it most of the time, but I think at some point I'll have to shave my head.

>>34777435
you'd look much better with a buzzcut, and keep the beard.

It would make your eyes pop

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>>34777435
nigga...your tshirt. please. just don't. fix that asap and for the love of god provide another pic where you have fixed it

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>>34777608
Never really thought I'd look good with a buzzcut, but I'll think about it
>>34777612
Don't worry that was a week ago. Here's one from today.

>tfw acne coming back at 25
>tfw I'm becoming a camwhore

>>34777717
You have the 'serial-killer stare' that comes from not interacting with people enough. Only practice socialising will fix that. I hope, at least. I've got it bad.

>>34777717
Oh okay. seriously though that shirt really made my brain emit neurons. Why do you have that WD40 so close on standby? also is that an Amp? what kind? I like the samus figurine a lot

>>34777608
I normally never like buzzcuts but this. Please consider getting one. It would actually look very good with your face shape and beard.

>>34777752
Do you have a serial killer stare?

>>34775323
You look sad, anon. Otherwise A-OK.

>>34777874
Yes I do friendolino I have to phrase this fucking stupidly to get it to go through

>>34777188
Basic hygiene lets one feel less miserable and healthy. This alone is worth it.

>>34777930
Can we see your stare?

Every time i try to shop i end up depressed when looking in the mirror and seeing my face and how awkwardly clothes still fit me despite being /fit/. I am not sure if am just so fucking weirdly proportioned to look like a frail faggot unless i am shirtless or its just my hideous face fucking it all up.

>>34777777
Get?
Epic get?

>>34778101
Can we see what you look like?

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>be poor
>have cystic acne
There's no hope for me. I've suffered from this since I was 15. I'm 27 now. I can't afford the $700/m accutane treatments, and I likely never will.

Why the fuck should I bother shaving, showering, or generally trying to appeal to other people when something entirely out of my control results in others finding me repugnant? I was a pariah when I took care of myself, and I'm still a pariah now when I'm fat and unkempt.

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>>34778070
This is by far the most outgoing I've been in weeks.

>>34775323
That's an expression

>>34773684
Fucking exhausting.
You have the priorities all wrong too. FIRST the robot decides he wants to enjoy life, THEN everything else follows naturally

>>34778199
Chin up pal, could be worse. You don't look bad at all desu.

>>34775323

You're fine. Work out and get a better hair cut and you'll easily be a 6.5/10

>>34778199
Looks british as fuck

Not too bad, but a bit of a lower class look

>>34777717
I agree, buzzcut and beard would suit you well

I do it myself and like it a lot

thank u friend, just inspired me to do 20 pushups, brush my teeth and shave my faggot face

>>34778957
No go to /fit/ and read the sticky

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>>34778181
Not sure if you want a pic of what I wear or my face. And also just letting you I'm pretty sure pictures I take of my self are deceiving, because sometimes I take a load of pics and end up looking like a 7/10 in some and 4/10 in others, but I just assume i am the 4/10 ones because I definately don't get treated like a 7.

Lmk if you want a better pic or whatever this one was half assed.

>>34773684
>>34773715
>>34773726
You got any advice for shit genes?

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>>34779035
See I look like a Chad here

100 push ups
100 sits up
100 squats
and a 10km run
Every Single Day

>>34779035
You look fine but you could improve your haircut

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>>34779073
But look like a fucking troll here. But girls treat me like my face looks like pic related and I don't look all that great with a shirt on so being /fit/ doesn't matter so I assume I am definitely not like the chad pic irl.

>>34779120
lift your eyebrows slightly. It's game changing

>>34779120
Dude your body is very good and your face is ok too

Again haircut could be better, but still you should be way more confident homie

That's all very well and good anon but unfortunately it doesn't change the fact that I'm a fucking hideous abomination

>>34779120
you have decent chin/jaw
straight/symmetric face
full lips
good body
decent hairline

just get a fade haircut or something and some nice clothes. I dont know what youre doing on r9k honestly

>>34773684
For the dandruff part, cut your hair as short as you can handle it and then start using it. I went from constant washing with minimal results with a full head of hair to virtually no dandruff by the time it grew back after I cut it.

>>34773684
>>34773715
>>34773726

>literally do all of these things to to fucking letter
>still a virgin at 23
Checkmate

>>34779103
Real talk though would this be a viable workout routine? Saitama got those anime gainz but I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried applying it to reality

>>34779296
No it wouldn't

You need linear progression for building muscles

Read the fit sticky

>>34777763
I was fixing a squeaky cabinet the other day.
It's a Yamaha RX-V479 receiver, the speakers are Polk T100 or something like that? I have a turntable but haven't hooked it up yet.

>>34779056
Wait for gene editing to go mainstream, in about 20-30 years.

>>34779120
You've got the Elliot Rodger pout, i.e. you look like you're a sexual predator constantly.

>>34777188
100% wrong. If you're short, go for even shorter girls. Below 5'6 are the best in bed anyway.

>>34779488
Girls below 5'6 are hobbits

5'8-10 is patrician taste, some taller ones also have good proportions (most look too masculine though)

My advice: stop being a manlet

>>34773726
>changing the way I dress
This is where I draw the line. I do almost everything else, but changing the way I dress would make me miserable.

My dress isn't even that bad, aside from the occasional metal shirt.

>>34779682
You don't have to change your style completely just have clothes that fit

A well groomed guy can wear good.fitting jeans and a metal shirt and still look good

>>34778740
Correct diagnosis. Am british as fuck.
>>34778541
You make me blush anon-kun-chan-senpai

>>34779120

What the fuck is wrong with your tits

>>34773684

>use shampoo

stopped reading there. you have to be a literal retard to use shampoo.

>>34780756
wait how are you supposed to wash your hair then

>Caring about hygiene

>Robots guide

More like Normies guide. GET OUT

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>>34780841
with water and conditioner

after two weeks your hair will stop producing the excess oil in response to shampoo and your hair will return to normal before you started shampooing it.

>>34781272
This sounds like fibs but I don't know enough stars to dispute it.

Why should I go through all this? None of it is fun and neither is any part of the romantic process. Better to just enjoy life than stress myself with this.

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>>34781294
here's a photograph of people taken prior to the invention of shampoo

as you can see, there's nothing wrong with their hair. your hair will be so much healthier if you stop stripping it of badly needed oils and nutrients anon.

>>34777752
This is the equivalent of bro science but with psychology

>>34781350
I'm honestly too old and baldish to be fussing about my hair anyway. I only wash it when it already feels greasy anyway.

>>34773715
Using q tips in your ears in potentially dangerous, cotton can easily come off it and and get stuck inside. There's also the risk of pushing wax in farther where it can compact and cause other problems. Using your own fingers is safest, or better yet having someone else with the benefit of being able to look at what they're doing do it for you.

This is a /soc/ thread on /r9k/.

Go back to your containment board.

>tfw long hair and people love it

Make sure to trim dead ends lad

Another Chad comes to r9k to help us threads

You know what fuck you

Fuck you fuck you fuck you

>>34773726
fuck off with your gay clothes for fags

>>34773684
ITT: obvious "advice" that anyone that isn't mentally handicapated understands

No, that's not what is "keeping r9k down", lack of purpose is whatis keeping r9k down, degenerate hedonistic American society is nto for everyone (or for anyone in the long term anyway)

>>34779120
There's something off with your pecs mate.

>>34776664
>>34776759

This is terrible fucking advice. Shave with the grain only, otherwise you will get terrible razorburn

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>>34781431
Would you prefer something along these lines?

>>34775323
You look like you actively want to die.

>>34775323
>stop plucking your eyebrows so much, they make you look feminine
>start lifting and get down to a low body fat percentage
>get a faggy trendy haircut

>>34775323
Jesus christ, you could land a plane in the space between your brows. Stop feminizing yourself, bitch.

>>34781770
>>34780505
Can you guys specifically tell me what's wrong with my pecs. I don't see anything wrong other than the fact that they are disproportionately bigger than the rest of my muscles. Which makes sense since I bench 1.5 times my body weight.

>>34773766
4773766477376647737664773766477376647737664773766BREAKING: Donald J. Trump dead; June 14, 1946 - February 9, 2017 (age 70).

none of that matters if you don't look approachable/friendly

I still do it, but no one will talk to me because I look angry and my body language radiates weakness and/or a reclusive "aura"

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Forgot picture. I feel like I look like a child. I don't usually wear a jacket and tshirt, I've been trying to dress nicer actually.
Any tips in general?

>>34783985
your first priority should be your skin, your second priority should be to lower your bodyfat percentage (will reduce babyface) and replace bodyfat with gainz if possible

>>34784078
I'm working hard on my acne. It used to be much worse.
How can I even decrease my "face fat", it's not like I can exercise there.

>>34778189

if you dont at least start somewhere u are fucked

do everything in ur power then save up and go to the doctor

look up obamacare nigga healthcare fuck me idk

>>34784098
congratz on the improvement

you have to lose bodyfat in general. Replacing bodyfat with muscle takes time and effort though, being babyfaced really sucks

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>>34775323
r8 me you robotos

>>34784207
cute

this post is tippy toes

>>34784098
Do you think areas of your body get fat from not working them out specifically?
m8

>>34784207
dis is berry attractive male

>>34784238
what does tippy toes mean? sorry i'm german

>>34775323
haircut + good posture = 6-7/10

>>34784302
it means nothing, it was just to bypass the filter

please give me your barbarian seed

>>34784302
>tippy toes
tippy toes tippy toes tippy toes tippy toes tippy toes tippy toes tippy toes tippy toes tippy toes

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>>34784419
k pls come to leaf country

>>34784157
>u are fucked
I've been fucked since I was 15.
>obamacare
Drumpf is going to repeal that, but Acne isn't considered a real medical condition. Medicaid doesn't cover accutane. They never will.

>>34784478
i am in leaf country tho

>>34784494
are you in frog leaf country?

>>34773715
How do you trim your nose hair? Mine are getting long but I'm not plucking them, that shit hurts

>>34784521
yes i am in fleur de lys

>>34778199
Dude wtf your face is so... symmetric. and masculine. Take advantage of that by making your body masculine/built.

>>34777435
I'd let your beard grow out a bit and shave your head.
Also your shirt is inside out.

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>>34783985
cut your hair dude. I used to wear mine long like that until sophomore year of college. Have the same straight blonde hair, blue eyes, babyface that you have and it just looks much better at a medium length. Go to some hipster male barber in your city (don't waste your time at supercuts or a salon). Shorter on the sides, leave some length on top for styling or a part.

If nothing else not having to constantly flip your hair out of your eyes will give you some measure of self confidence

>>34784579
montreal?
(we could meet up fellow roboto)

>>34785090
I'm close enough to montreal but I'm shy tho

>>34785258
I am free tomorrow~

balding guy here

ive been on a topical finasteride/minoxidil thing for about 1 and a half months, and im still receding like crazy. im just hoping that the finasteride will thicken the remaining hair (which is probably gonna reach norwood 3) enough to where i can cover my forehead decently

im in a fucking state of limbo here because i have no idea whether this shit is gonna work

>>34785275
for a robot you seem pretty chill and not autistic.

>>34785327
also the reason why I dont want to shave it is that I had a small forehead to begin with, and even with my NW2 hairline I see people that aren't balding with bigger foreheads than me, and I feel like it's more okay to have a big forehead than be bald because I see a lot of girls with big foreheads that I think are attractive

>>34785371
It's the hidden autism that counts

>>34785371
also imma post my skype cus i'm bored add me people if you want to talk

>>34785411
it's aaronsaviour

>>34785411
do you speak french? are you looking for a friend?

>>34785490
I speak 3 languages, friends are always welcome :)

>>34773726
This is fucking dumb
The rest is fine but fashion shouldn't be some guide you follow
You should look at inspo albums and find your own style instead of wearing the
r/malefashionadvice uniform

>>34785554
whoa you seem to have a serious case of ubermensch, I must to retreat and watch you from afar >///<

>>34773925
Lose weight and start lurking /fa/
r/malefashionadvice r/Streetwear and start following fashion accounts on Instagram
Get inspired by fashion pics and try to copy them
It's more fun than wearing basic ass shit all the time
Also watch some of Avery Ginsburg's YouTube videos he's really good

>>34785618
:(

pls don't abandon this it was nice conversation

>>34785642
don't worry, you're pretty and you sound nice so you'll get another ;) don't focus on the socially dysfunctional, it won't get you anywhere

>>34776823
Just keep washing it
Keep a small Cetaphil cleanser bottle on you
Also the black spots on your nose are easy as fuck to handle
They are just blackheads
They sell small strips everywhere that you put on your nose and when you peel it off all the black spots come out

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Origamiamiamiami
Sage'd

I havent showered in a week and i wear the same clothes 24/7.

Im sure i smell dank & musky.

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I just shaved my dick for personal hygiene

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>>34776851
i havent showered this month and only showered once or twice last month

eat shit u stupid normie lol

>>34783985
Start exercising. It reduces bodyfat. Better if you go to a gym. And for your face, start chewing gums. It reduces baby fat too. Look up online for exercises that reduces fat on your face anon. Best of luck.

OP, you were doing fine before you told us to shave our beards. Beards look great, just keep them trimmed so some parts don't grow longer than others, that's when you start looking like a hobo.

Been pulling off full beards since I was 16, ain't no one telling me to shave it off.