Genetics vs Environment

Genetics: 0%

Environment: 0%

Free will: 100%.

>>34739549
Are you a liberal or do you just unironically believe the tabula rasa meme

>>34739660

I was actually being sarcastic.

>>34739528

You need both.
If you have Chad genes, but were malnourished and never exercised as a child and teenager, you will be a beta with thin, narrow bones and a small dick.

>>34739660

It's funny because its actually the right-wingers, not liberals, who believe in "muh free will" and all that shit

Oh, you are poor? Just pull urself up by ur bootstraps
Oh, you are homeless? Stop asking for handouts, mooch.
Oh, you think our biased system keeps some people down? Impossible. We live in a perfect meritocracy. You are just lazy.
Oh, you are disadvantaged and at the bottom of the social totem pole? It's okay to make fun of you and put you down because you're there by choice. You chose it. Because everyone has free will and no other factors at all influence success. I can't concieve of anything else because mommy and daddy and society provided me everything and told me it was my "hard work"

Rightism is the "just b urself" of political philosophy.
The fastest way to cure a right winger is to make him walk through the poor part of town so he can see how far "hard work and gumption" really gets you

>>34740082
This is true, but /r9k/ is so desperate for the approval of white nationalists that they'll believe anything at all as long as it makes them feel like the ''''''real men'''''' who browse /pol/

>>34739528
Environment more imo.
If parents home schools & coddles a 10/10 growing up, he's going to be a beta bitch boy no matter how good he looks.

I feel like even an uggo who grows up in the right environment, can grow to be confident and Chad like.

>>34739528
Both. To make a chad, you need top tier genes. If the upbringing of this subject is normal (ie: a moderately functional family) the halo effect will reinforce the social aspects of the chadness.

>>34740082
So right wingers are libertarians?

>>34740282

The terminology is so convoluted that it's bordering on the ridiculous.

"Liberal" used to be like "muh free market, muh capitalism".

"Libertarian" used to mean something like "muh socialism, muh democracy".

Then they somehow got switched, then it got even more mixed up.

>>34740082
And yet liberals are the ones who unironically believe in genetic determinism w/r/t sexual dichotomies between blacks and nonblacks

really made my noggin start joggin

>>34740282

The right wing is defined as "politics that hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable"

They are against equality and justify their beliefs by saying that the lower classes choose to be there or deserve to be there because of their unshakable belief in tge just world fallacy.

Everyon has a choice, they say, so helping disadvantaged people is pointless.
It's a rediculous system.

genetics provides the potential to thrive in particular environments

put a bunch of frogposters in harvard and see what happens (not much)
however a super-genius can sometimes figure a way to overcome being in a ghetto but they might become super villain out of spite

>>34740082
True conservatives just value hierarchy and organic unity. Everyone has their rights, but society works better if we all know our place. This is the will of our biology.

The "muh free will" fags are lolbertarian daydreamers. Or liars.

>>34740395
>social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable
>lower classes choose to be there or deserve to be there

Those sound like contradictory/conflicting ideas

>>34740414
And yet normalcucks like (You) act as if us "frogposters" chose to be born with these ineffectual genetics. Especially when we embrace them/are pragmatic about them.

Really does activate the almonds.

>>34740485

You're not the only one who noticed it. I was just about to say the same thing.

>>34740485
I think the word "choose" could imply the choice to conform to cultural standards. For example, a negro who has high genetic potential but who consciously conforms to the "fuck whitey" ghetto culture--and subsequently becomes a drain on society--makes at least an implicit choice.

>>34740453

You are right pretty much. It's just hard to accept having to sacrifice personal happiness for the betterment of humanity when you don't care at all about humanity and won't get to even see the fruits of your sacrifice in a few centuries anyway.

>>34740485
>>34740520

It's not contradictory.
Moder american right wingers believe in class mobility.
They believe that the people at the bottom aren't struggling, and that they can walk out of their job and join the middle class at any time with gumption and a firm handshake.

That's why they are so absolutley opposed to giving anyone beneath them assistance

>>34739528
What kind of environment prevents someone with Chad genetics from becoming Chad, if any?

>>34740748
Veritable Chad genetics will always create Chad regardless of environment, but guys who err a little on the attractive side are probably vulnerable to getting fucked over by environment.

>>34740748
An environment that prevents the positive feedback from the halo effect, so, isolation maybe?

>>34740748

Parents who don't feed their kid properly (macronutrients) or get their kids to exercise properly while their bodies are supposed to be developing.

>>34740453
>Everyone has their rights, but society works better if we all know our place.
WEW

>This is the will of our biology.
LAD