Why do losers and rejects gravitate so much towards fascism?

Power fantasies about revenge on normies through the power of a totalitarian state.

why do losers and rejects who have brown skin gravitate so much towards social justice and empowerment for non-whites and women?

Instant sense of belonging, and a common goal.
Pretty much everyone needs a tribe.

>>34731726
Fascism is much more preferable than rampant degeneracy even if fascism isn't ideal. The common people are getting way out of control and fucked up.
t. burgerclap

>>34731726
Because fascism is for losers. Even Communism was more successful than fascism.

>>34731747
What's the common goal? lmao

Being a NEET loser while stewing in their hatred of the "normies" and shitskins they blame for THEIR OWN social problems?

Internet fascism is fucking pathetic.

>>34731747
I really don't understand why common whites are so cucked and have barely any self interest.

Truth Bomb:

OP has a point if you read the biography of Josef Goebbels, but you'll get nu-male cucks replying with emotional indignation/kneejerk responses because they know (consciously or subconsciously) that OP's onto something

we even had a thread about him/this a couple weeks ago but, sasuga /pol9k/ has the memory-span of a goldfish

>>34731783
I agree, you stupid faggot, dont make stupid assumptions.
Fascists goal is fascism, at a government level, and likely racial segregation.
How is that not clear?

>>34731777
Only reason you hate degeneracy is because you feel alienated from it. You don't get to participate therefore you think nobody else should either because "ree fucking normies"

What so-called fascists on 4chan are doing is disparaging the prestige. The elite greatness of the fascist tradition.

Selection bias. Most people are pragmatists. A successful person is not going to espouse an unpopular opinion for long, because dissent is punished swiftly and unfamiliarity with the mandated agenda is met with not being promoted.

>>34731777
>out of control
Are you saying that from experiencing, or reading about it online?

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>>34731726
Economic fascism lifted us out of the great-depression and built the contemporary American dream.
A bit of moral coercion is good for the health of any society. There's no denying that, r0stie p0stie.

Fascism almost conquered the entire planet at one point. Socialism killed millions and is still causing suffering to this day.

>>34731858
>IMG_0930
>phoneposter thinks he knows anything about "morality" (phoneposters are always liberals, redditors, and have ushered in a new era of low-effort shitposting)
kek

>>34731832
In response I would say I myself am degenerate because I'm alcoholic and have been for a great many years. However, what I mean by the degeneracy I'm personally thinking of is just seriously the common CNN liberal who doesn't look at anything protesting in the streets taking up the time and effort of cops when honestly people should just support the country they live in and embrace their leader. He's there for a reason.

>>34731906
>almost conquered the entire planet
>only got a little bit of Africa, some slices of Asia, and Eastern Europe.
>rapidly got sodomized when the world united against them
Almost conquered the entire planet, huh?

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>>34731912
Are you SERIOUSLY implying that that orange kike is a fascist near me?

Get the FUCK out of my ideology, you disgusting cur. lmao what a moron. Imbecile.

>>34731777
>>34731747
raise points i agree with.

Fascism (or authoritarianism, national socialism is far removed from something like italian facism dont conflate the two) give order to society and a place in the world. People who feel like they have no place in the world, like they are social outcasts and dont know where they belong are attracted to it because it presents somewhere to belong. Its offers comradery and the opportunity to be part of a group, a wider community.

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>>34731726

top kek

Guaranteed you're not white. Kill yourself you filthy brown fuck, you kike loving nigger.

>>34731992
>this emotional-tier response
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>>34731976
It offers oppression and death. Fascism was a failure from top to bottom and its ideology disgusts people for good reason. Western democracy and capitalism has brought more good and order to the world than any other form of government.

>>34731976
So basically beta loser virgin nu-male cuck whites who are social outcasts glom onto fascism for the same reason that blacks join gangs?

really made me think

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>nazis in this thread acting tough when they just get punched and cry in real life

hahahahahahahahhaa

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>>34732003
>expecting an arguments to not an arguments

>>34732070
After seeing /pol/ people on Shia Labeouf's stream, I just can't take them seriously anymore.

>>34731832
stop projecting, degenerate

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>>34732098
see
>>34731827
I eagerly await your emotional-tier kneejerk response

>>34732137
>projecting
/pol/ buzzwords.

Opinion disregarded.

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The truth:

Fascism/National Socialism is ultimately about creating a society where autistic people are the normalfags. Autistic people value rigid order and hierarchies.

It is the female/jew whose nature is to destroy order, much like the scorpion from the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

>>34732020
for the same reason everyone joins a community.

Nobody wants to be alone. Everybody wants to be part of something. Facism offers that.

>>34732014
Why did Nazi Germany have the highest quality of life in the world in 1936? Western democracy has brought society to its knees and has all but destroyed the morality of the world. We live in a world where it is not only acceptable but praiseworthy to come out as mentally ill and declare yourself a non-binary transgender. Where sex is everywhere and even children are exposed to horrible degeneracy.

Oppression, yes, arguably it does. Death? haha, what do you even mean by this? Are you insinuating that facists have to automatically purge their community of ethic impurities? Or that they have to go to war? Ill let you know a secret, a lot of facists are isolationist. Just because mussolini was a warmonger doesnt mean mosley was.

Also, capitalism is not mutually exclusive with facism. Once again, youre conflating national socialism with facism. The two are very different.

>>34732125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWwlzeb6E_M

this guy cucked him into oblivion

>>34731948
Dude he's not a fascist. Could you reread my post in a different light or something? Sorry that's not what I meant it to be interpreted as, but I am drunk.

>>34732164
So how long are you banned from /pol/?

>>34732195
I never post on /pol/.

>>34732174
HAHA DID THAT MAD MAN SERIOUSLY SPEW MEMES IRL WOW WOAH DAMN WHAT A NAZI WHAT AN ARYAN!

AND THUG LIFE TOO! TWO MEMES IN ONE! IT'S A MEME EXTRAVAGANZA A MEMESTRAVAGANZAAAA!!! XDDD HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG ! WE WON! WE MEMED!

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>>34732014
>It offers oppression and death.
It offer efficiency and clear goals.
>Fascism was a failure from top to bottom and its ideology disgusts people for good reason.
It disgusts everyone's uncle Bill Bob from Oklahoma because of corporate propaganda.
>Western democracy and capitalism has brought more good and order to the world than any other form of government.
Western Democracy and unchecked capitalism has brought nothing but oligarchy, mass-corruption, and stagnation.

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>>34731726
Blaming the degeneracy of society is easier than recognizing your own faults and bettering yourself.

>I'm not a loser, everyone else is a degenerate!

These types gravitate towards fascism because attaching themselves to a centralized, powerful ideal lets them take revenge on the people they perceived to have wronged them.

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>>34732139
>biography of some nazi
>an argument

>>34732172
If you're such a fan of Hitler maybe you should follow your leader and kys. Enjoy being mocked by literally almost everyone for your retarded beliefs.

>>34732248
sasuga nu/pol/.

>>34732269
You seem like the type of faggot who pronounces that word as "saw-sooga"

>>34732257
>this emotional-tier response
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>>34731726
but they don't, op

>>34727842

check out all the dumb commies that post here

>>34731726
Isolated, confused, passive individuals are ideal subjects for indoctrination into any belief system. This holds true for fascism, religious extremism, Buddhism, new-age cults, nihilist post-modernists, you name it.

These groups produce all the arguments, evidence, and analysis, and all the individual has to do is consume the media and attach it to their real-life experiences.

>>34732257
wherein did i say i was a fan of hitler?

>appeal to popularity
is not an argument and certainly wont work on me.

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>>34732294
>You seem like the type of faggot who pronounces that word as "saw-sooga"
Not an argument

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>>34732295
Wew yourself.

>>34732302
communism offers the same thing facism does only it appeals to a weaker demographic. As a communist youre told youre equal and everyone deserves the same regardless of their input while at the same time giving you an opportunity to be part of the community. Facism offers you the community but demands you contribute.

>>34731726
It's like being a liberal, except it actually works and instead of becoming a normie, you get to put normies in camps.

>>34732349
>you get to put people who contribute to society and industry and let a bunch of autistic dipshits run the show
No wonder that shit failed so hard kek.

>>34731726
The real Fascism is Leftism.

>>34732412
Leftism=!Neo-liberalism

>"It's the same thing as Neo-conservatism, literally zero difference, but we kiss the asses of fags and ethnics some times ;)"
We need proper leftists like FDR again.

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>>34732412
>fascism is anything I don't like

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>>34732349
>>34732384
we'll deal with these uppity autist losers soon

>>34732467
That really is wrong though. Hillary was fascist to the core.

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>>34731726
Same reason why losers gravitate towards Radical Leftism and Social Justice bullshit, It's just for a sense of purpose and belonging. And if you can't sort your shit out by yourself, you might fight comfort in totalitarian ideologies such as Communism/Fascism/Religious-Fanaticism or any other sort of community with a defined social hierarchy, where someone else can take charge and tell you what needs to be done

Reason why I joined the military desu

>>34732014
>Fascism was a failure from top to bottom
being forcibly eradicated by overwhelming foreign military power does not equal failure within the system

>>34732503
>Hillary was fascist to the core
Name a single fascist policy she wanted to keep or establish.
>>34732470
Why do commies pretend to be in charge?

>>34732231
>getting this upset over memes

At what point did people forget that not everything said on 4chan is sincere?

>>34732316
Why is it only indoctrination when it is not a normalfag belief system?

>>34732517
who is she

originino

>>34732567
When /pol/ started seriously believing everything that was said on here.

>>34731726
Losers and rejects gravitate towrds the counter culture. Losers of the baby boomers all did nothing but smoke weed all day and lay around, it became the dominant culture. Counter culture now is right wing idealism.

>>34732546
>makes a series of decisions that leads to a crushing military defeat
>NOT A FAILURE

Huh. I guess smacking everyone in the face until you get cornholed isn't your fault.

Losers gravitate to anything extreme. Communism, Fascism, they both draw in people that lack the ability to think critically about things so they can just throw themselves behind a cause.

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>>34731726
>Implying you're not a loser or reject

>>34732467
Fascism at its core is state worship, trampling of individual rights, rampant identity politics, suppression of free speech, and government interference in every aspect of life. If that doesn't describe the agenda of the modern left in a nutshell, I don't know what does.

>>34732613
Which is never

>>34732566
Thought policing.

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>>34732641
what a dark edgy nihilist you are

>>34731726
>Why do losers and rejects
Just because someone is a loser/reject by society's standards does not mean they are innately wrong.

>>34732569
I mentioned examples of groups that have been shilled on /r9k/ in the past.

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>>34732691
>just because something is authoritarian, it must be totalitarian
>also all totalitarians are the same, literally no difference betwen left-wing and right-wing

>>34732768
Yes, it kind of does actually.

You're a loser and a reject because you're not exactly cream of the crop. Why should anyone listen to what you have to say when you can't even do something as simple as being part of the group?

>>34731726
But they all gravitate towards the left

>>34732802
So your post is shilling too or what? You might want to look up the definition of shilling.

>>34732691
nah they're just trampling and dismantling white privilege while liberating everyone else's. you just get the pointy end of the stick because you and your forefathers were oppressive shitheads.

stop being butthurt at losing racist perks you had for decades.

>>34732841
>anything i don't like is "the left"

>>34731726
They focus on logic and facts compared to emotions and social expectations

>>34731832
>Only reason you hate degeneracy is because you feel alienated from it

Hey I knew someone would come up with that one at least once.

But that's the thing, of course it's alien to us because it's not compatible with us, because we're not degenerate.

>>34732829
>ad hominem
orangutan

>>34732847
post 2015 /r9k/, i assume everyone is a shill unless proven otherwise

>>34732829
You're implying that society is always perfect. That is simply false.

>>34732874
A lot of it is from the left yeah, you almost got it

>>34732894
>logic and facts
>i hate shitskins ree
>i hate sjws ree
>gas le kikes race war now ree
>memecopter rides for alle commies reee
>here's an infograph showing the correlation between derp and herp in niggers ree
>logic and facts
>logic and facts
>logic and facts
>logic and facts

>>34732848
>nah they're just trampling and dismantling white privilege while liberating everyone else's. you just get the pointy end of the stick because you and your forefathers were oppressive shitheads.

Thanks for basically confirming what I said.

>>34732948
>he actually written such a long post just to strawman some memes

>>34731726
Im becoming a loser and i support agree with libertarians on most things.
Execption hardens the rule amirite

>>34732823
Yeah, I think you'll find the results of Totalitarianism are consistent across the board. It's just the left get to whitewash theirs while using the right's as an excuse to silence reasonable opposition to mass uncontrolled immigration and social engineering.

>>34732765
thanks for noticing. not really being edgy or a nihilist, just calling it like i see it.

>>34731726
Because fascist leaders are always strong leaders, and since having a strong leader is something I never really had growing up I want it now as a head of government.

Freedom is a lie, sit around with your guns and your walmart brand McMeth (trademarked)

>>34731778
>one country held off practically every country on earth for 4

>lol fascism sucks

keep tellin yourself that commie faggot

>>34731832
If anything robots are more likely to become degenerates. furries, tumblrinas, shit like that, they aren't normal people.

>>34731946
>was only defeated after conquering europe almost entirely, parts of Russia, and North Africa when the entire world united against them

yeah, sounds about right

>>34734251
>i want a big strong daddy to protect me and care for my boihole lovingly

It all makes sense now. All the trap threads. The obsessions with "boypussy." The cute anime girl roleplaying. Everything.

>>34734342
Whoa, there are people role-playing as cute anime girls? Point me to where that's going on.

>>34731726
Because the only people who would spend time with me are degenerates.

Some time being around these lowlifes and you'll want to gas them too.

If anything it's the opposite. Only the strongest are drawn to national socialism fascism. It is based on rigid order, a strong sense of justice and virtue, and emphasizes industriousness and merit. These things are antipodal to the soft and weak people who populate the losers and rejects.

>>34731726
a desire for meaning and order and status in their life which they cannot find in modern contemporary liberal society

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>>34731726
How can we be losers if Trump won?

>>34735001
Yeah they'll sure find it sitting on their asses all day "reeing" at people who achieve things.

It's not society's fault you're a piece of shit. Deal with it.

>>34735027
Politicians win elections, voters lose them

As an ex-fascist, I can tell you the other anons are right. The main attraction for me was a purpose and stability it offered. I was stuck in a pit feeling worthless and like my life had no meaning, and then I found the text Giovanni. of who gave me inspiration and hope in thinking that I could give myself to an everlasting Empire which I fought for and it me. I finally felt like there could be a possibility of me belonging to a group who looked after each other like brothers regardless of status or looks, but soon enough the facade was lifted once I read the ego and its own.

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>>34731777
>rampant degeneracy
>He says as he posts on the world's biggest cartoon porn forum

4chan is at the forefront of modern society's cultural downward spiral

democracy is fascism too if you are in a minority group and are forced to live by the rules that the majority sets. the only difference between democracy and fascism is that in fascism the minority rules over the majority, whereas in democracy it is the opposite. neither system is just and so you support the one that benefits you depending on what group you belong to.

>>34735236
You remind me of myself, when i was 15.

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Because politics is not really a social activity and autists can easily examine and take part in it. Fascism tends to be the logical conclusion when you're just looking at the facts and not trying to instigate any other goal other than an improved nation. Fascism is truly the robot's political philosophy. It's cold and fantastical but it's goals are pure. All it wants to do is improve the nation. The problem is, it's autistic as fuck and very distant from normie view points. So autist fascists tend to just get more and more depressed because they've alienated themselves so much from the basic functions of the average person. It's pure social engineering and only an autist can understand it.

freme sucks mean dick btw

losers and rejects gravitate toward libertarianism too

I don't see what's so fascist about trump, its cool having an assertive strong person leading the country.

>why is x attracted to y
Bad bait is bad, but I'll bite.

Every ideology - as a collection of thought - is bound to attract with it certain archetypes which fit into its thought.

Of course a weltanshauung of conflict will attract those with a list for petty vengeance, but likewise it can be a source of great inspiration and creative energy.

Just as Fascists have rejects amidst their niche ranks, Liberals have their bleeding hearts, Conservatives have their bourgeois airheaded moralists, and Socialists have their ardent Trots & Tankies, or outright psychopathically altruistic social democrats.

Perhaps one ought, rather, critique the ideas themselves, rather than what /may/ be attracted to them. Why is it that people're so quick to regard Fascism as simply being 'edgy', when all ideologies perform the same purpose: the leap of faith on any amount of philosophy issues. Just because yours is subconscious (thanks to tacit & innate indoctrination - everpresent) makes it not inherently truthful.

Make a thread once you read some actual Fascist literature and have a sense for its metaphysics, epistemology, political philosopy, and jurisprudence. You'd be surprised how influential it remains to this day.

>>34736182
Best post in this entire thread, have (you)

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Nothing reaffirms my confidence is fascism more than /r9k/ being opposed to it

>>34732823
Literally zero arguments.
The left is dead, get over it and try to survive.

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>>34735472
Internet and social media in general could be considered degenerate, as it promotes a lack of physical fitness and antisocial tendencies. In a true fascist society the internet would probably be heavily censored and used only for work-related tasks or for learning state-approved information. A site like 4chan would certainly not be allowed to exist.

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>>34731777
>rampant degeneracy
>common people are getting way out of control
This.
All this retarded third wave feminism i show my ugly fat body and saggy tits in public to announce how oppressive straight white cis males are to me needs to end.
Not only because it's completely disgusting and mentally ill, but also because SJW / political correctness which is undeniably tied to this, is sipping into actual science.
If those autistic cunts want to start their shit degeneracy club at home, fucking go for it, but stay away from the public.
Also this milenial slut / clubbing / lol weed 420 lmao """culture""" needs to end.
Society has gone to shit during the last years. It's like the whore of babylon took over the reign.

>>34731726

>lefties dont have jobs

>or shitty mcjobs at best

>faking disabilities to get govbux

>voting for the candidate that promises you free shit instead of jobs

>all dropouts except for the ones with shitty degrees in gender studies or art school

>"hurr durr the otha guise r da looserz!"

Bitch puhleeze

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No value, no accomplishments, no pride points of your own? Make your skin and your country be your pride. No matter how empty of a person you are, you'll always have those.

Feel like a completely powerless, frustrated, impotent loser? You're actually a noble warrior who has just been systematically oppressed by scheming Jews and degenerates. It's not your fault, it's the "other", the enemy.

Lost and aimless in life? Invent that there is some epic cultural struggle going on, now you're a proud warrior fighting in a crusade much bigger than yourself.

No friends, feeling unloved? Glorious right-wing leader is your friend, he's a luminous savior, and he's on YOUR side, to fight with YOU against the evil hordes! He cares about you and wants the best for you, because you're united by a common cause.

>>34739206
Big words coming from a NEET fatass

>>34739447

I just got here from work, how about you go clean your fupa once in a month you hambeast?