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Out of all my problems, why is this the one that bothers me the most?

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Out of all my problems, why is this the one that bothers me the most?
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probably because you sit on /r9k/ all day and get told that you're a victim because of it
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>>34696825
Jewish media and normie culture treats being a virgin after 16 the same as being a rapist
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>>34696862

see what I mean? this guy just told you that you're a victim because you're a virgin
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Because as a human male, you're sole purpose for existing is to mate with a member of the opposite sex to reproduce. Failing to do so results in the death of your bloodline and the burden of failing your lineage. If members of the opposite sex do not find you attractive it's natures way of telling you, you are literal genetic garbage. This sits at the back of every persons mind, but we pretend like it doesn't exist because we should be deeper than that.
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you exist because of sex and sex alone
this is how things have always been and will be for a while longer
oops, you didn't have sex? guess you aren't really alive

all is preface to or afterword for sex
you haven't even read a page yet and most everyone else has memorized the book of life

it's pretty sad and pathetic if you think about it - the most fundamental all life propagation and you are permanently benighted

there is no difference between you and an abortion, realistically
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>>34696883
You literally have zero reading comprehension. Try reading that statement again. Take your time and sound out the words.
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>>34696886

>your sole purpose... is to reproduce

bold assertion
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>>34696883

Because whenever someone brings up that they're a virgin people consider it rude because most people have been laid so long ago and getting laid for so long that when you say you're a virgin it makes it seem like you must not trust them and that you are simply saying that to distance yourself from them because you're mad at them or something.
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>>34696886
>>34696892
Lovecraft and Newton were virgins.
Were they failures?
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>>34696883
>waaahhhhh quit pointing societal stigma. you don't deserve the title of victim
Hang yourself,
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>>34696903
>jewish media and normie culture treats being a virgin after 16 the same as being a rapist

so he's ashamed of being a virgin because Jewish media(lol) and normie culture treat him like a rapist, thus giving him an unduly negative reputation. hence, he's a victim.
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>>34696825

Because you're a normie faggot who compares himself to an outdated, idealized male archetype which seeks to measure success in life by the number of women that they lay?
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>>34696917
yes

couple assholes who turned natural beauty into memes
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>>34696904
It's not an assertion, it's a fact. It will stay fact until we merge with texhnology and cease to be mammals.
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>>34696892
>propagation = societal contribution
People like you are the reason half the world's retarded
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>>34696825
it's what you believe you want
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>>34696950

no it's not a fact you dumb retard. he doesn't exist for any purpose because that implies that he was made with an intended use. stop treating nature like a plan
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Holy fuck just Deja my Vu up.
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>>34696969
they're creating good workers and greasing the wheels of industry with their purchases

your picture is a great example of success
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>>34696928

I tried rereading my post but can't find the quote that you posted. did you make it up and are now trying to insinuate that those are my words?
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>>34696917
Actually yes. Their bloodlines died with them. They failed to fulfill their biological duty.
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>>34697036

>implying "biological duty" is more important than calculus and physics
>implying "biological duty" exists
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>>34696999
>b-b-but who will work in the walmarts
Has your pea brain not once considered that population growth may not necessarily be a good thing?

I already wrote that before I read the second line and realized it was bait, so I guess you got me
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>>34697062
>implying "calculus" and "physics" exists
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>>34696985
He exists with the purpose to reproduce. Have you not looked around at nature? Everything is built upon reproduction and survival.
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>>34697002
>I don't understand greentext
This board is 18+ :^)
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>>34696917
Lovecraft wasn't a virgin
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>>34697081

calculus is the theory of derivatives and integrals
physics is the theory of the natural world

are you disputing the existence of theories or bodies of knowledge?
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>>34697062
Okay now imagine everyone only did calculus and physics. Nobody mated and just studied. The human race would perish. Without reproduction there is no calculus, but with reproduction everything becomes possible. It is the foundation of any species. Not a hard concept to grasp.
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>>34697087

he doesn't exist with a purpose because nature didn't make him to reproduce. natural selection is just the survival of the most fit organisms that will have more opportunities to reproduce and pass on their genes. nature isn't a sentient being that made a bunch of stuff and gave each of these things the purpose of reproduction
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Losing your virginity makes it less awkward when people discuss sex and relationships around you. Outside of that it doesn't really change you desu. (Except for the day after when you feel on top of the world assuming it was good)

Never admit you're a virgin though. It turns off girls like nothing else. They don't even find it cute or anything, like it's repulsive. Fucking whores.
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>>34697140
i'm disputing their pertinence to reality beyond the scope of humanity's ability to understand it

as descriptions of human consciousness, they are... limited at best and should be dispensed with asap
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>>34697188
Yes and the fact he doesn't have the opportunity to reproduce is making him depressed because deep down he knows that means he's undesirable.
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You guys are all stupid

Virginity bothers you because it's a natural endpoint for successful interactions with a member of your preferred sex, and that you haven't reached it can dubiously be quantified as a failure of development, socially emotionally or mentally. Now you're left with a definition that you may, potentially, be somebody who is either emotionally immature, socially immature, or mentally immature. The problem starts when you start letting that definition bring down your self-esteem

And admittedly, it is hard. I forced myself practically all the way through psychosocial development, had to refine my personality to near-perfection in the realms of maturity, to achieve The Sex. Where we differ as that I let a want for sex drive this, and you've let your depression beat out all the energy you could use to become a self-actualized person who will naturally attract mates

>>34697223
What is "undesirable" anyways? "Fails to make a good impression on strangers"? "Doesn't appear sure enough of self to beget sexual attraction"?
"Biological duty" is a paleolithic concept, "bloodline presevation" a medieval one. They have no place in our current world, and calling someone like Newton a failure is downright moronic. Then again pretty much everybody on this board is an idiot so
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>>34696825
Even in todays "you can be anything" society, a mans unability to mate is still the most common shame and insult. It is like calling someone a nazi. If someone get to know about your virginity (and you didn't have some serious visible physical issue) you become the lowest of the low in their eyes.

The bottom of the normie respect list:

.....
murderers
serial killers
pedophiles
adult MALE virgins
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Go to a hooker. Problem solved.
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>>34696886
>being an anarcho-primitivist that actually thinks reproduction is mankind's sole meaningful purpose

What an unfathomably shit philosophy. There's 7 billion of us and we're destroying the planet. Take that pants-on-head tier opinion back to /pol/
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>>34696825
Don't let it get you down, I just found out that I have crabs.

Sex leads to some nasty problems. I'm not looking forward to the judging, knowing eyes of the pharmacist as I buy my whore shampoo.
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>>34696825
Biological imperative. We are still animals after all. Don't let any of those cucks tell you you're a failure for not giving birth to any children though. After all, everything bad that has happened to every single human can ultimately be attributed to their parents giving birth to them. If you really loved your children, you wouldn't have them.
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>>34697696
>whore shampoo
roastie?
a man would exclaim for all to hear with pride his need for sex soap
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>>34697558
>hurrrr I was a retarded failed normie so you are all too
No, you projecting faggot. People have and lose their virginity for dozens of reasons
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>>34697835

Yeah of course, circumstances of luck and playing of social power and ego-assimilation and shit. All things that naturally come to you with some (some, not "total" or "complete") development in those areas. Sure some 16yo proto-Chad might not be a mature guy who uses empathy as a tool to better his life, but he sure was socially able to communicate his ego well enough to warp social power into a circumstance where sex happens
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Because we are social creatures and part of socializing is feeling mutual intimacy with someone else. This is the part that people don't get when they tell you to just pay a hooker to lose it; that isn't the point. Sex is, By large, more a mental act than it is a physical one. You can reach orgasm by yourself any time just fine. You can reach orgasm with a sex toy just fine. With a prostitute, sure, but it's still just sticking it in and out.

There's no fulfilment on the psychological level; the feeling of being wanted. The feeling of someone who wants to so intimate things with you just as much as you want to do intimate things with them. The feeling that you are accepted, for who you are, through all your faults. That you can express your deepest, darkest, and most crude desires in the presence of another -- and they in turn will deliver theirs to you.

By being a virgin, especially at older age, you are denied this very basic psychological necessity for socialization. It hurts, feeling that nobody can love you and that you aren't deserving. The peanut gallery will say "don't compare yourself to others" but our brains don't work that way. We've developed jealousy as an emotion for a very real and important reason - it's naive to think that one can simply shut an emotion off. You will look at others, see them accepted by multiple people, see them loved by many, sometimes rather easily. You will, in turn, reflect on yourself and realize that something is very wrong with you to be unable tp find SOMEONE who can mutually share their intimate care with you.

This also falls into the "a girlfriend won't fix everything" issue but that's kind of another topic all together. (To briefly touch on it, while it obviously isn't a solution to sorrow it does help immensely in both goal setting and emotional support).
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>>34697558
>they have no place in the current world

You're not taking into account that we're still just animals and our biology hasn't advanced at the same rate as our social structures or technology.

https://youtu.be/ilEwSPljeFc

Just because they don't have a role currently doesn't mean we just up and change things hard coded into our biology. Our wisdom teeth no longer have a use to modern man, but we still grow them.
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>>34696825
Because modern culture has built up not losing you're virginity as a teenager and then having casual sex throughout your early 20's as the most abnormal thing ever making out anyone who doesn't easily do it as a freak of some sort, and because of this you view yourself as a fundamentally broken being since you've permanently missed out on the first and are currently missing out on the second
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>>34697933

I'm not denying our biology in general. I'm calling your ideals dated and not a real answer to the question or any modern question
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>>34696825
I imagine because everyone else has done it.
It also means that someone else wanted you in the most closet way possible
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>>34696886
shit senpai this was next level
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It's not sex. I want someone to fucking love me in an abstract way which only exists in my head.

FUCK BEING ALIVE HOLY SHIT I WOULDN'T WISH IT ON MY WORST ENEMIES
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You still think sex will fill the void.

I reduced a great deal of my desire for sex just by looking around me and realizing that people who have gfs and shit can still be just as miserable as I am.
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>>34697558
OP here.
I already had my answer, I just wanted to start the topic. The answer by the way is that sex and love is more prevalent in the media I consume than other subjects I fail at.
I am "emotionally immature, socially immature, or mentally immature."
How wouldn't this bring down my self-esteem? I am literally a child in the adults' world. And like a child, I simply stay in my room and complain and find excuses instead of potentially solving my problem.
You have the right idea but I don't think your emotional, social and mental development was ever as stunted as mine or most other peoples on this board.
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>>34696825
Because it's not about the physical act of it, it's about being unwanted and undesirable for all your life, sex is validation or proof of being wanted.
Agonizing over it is merely you confirming it, not adapting your behavior is sustaining it.

You have two options:
Learn to be content on your own without any need for validation, approval or being wanted.

or

Adapt to become wanted and desirable.

Also consider this:
Suppose you do manage to lose it only to find nothing much has changed at all. What then?
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>>34698255

Dude, my name field says "chadspie". I don't know how obvious it is but it's supposed to have "aspie" as part of the portmanteau. I came off even more disadvantaged than a lot of you, and now I'm where I am. I don't have any immediate answers for how to throw off your mental illness shackles, but I can tell you to do certain serotonergic drugs, have good and bad times on them, and start a nootropic regimen
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>>34698100
Yeah dude, being permanently alone and recieving no care or affection just fucking drains me over time. I just want someone that cares about me
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>>34698318
Did you have friends in your teens?
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>>34698346
Only a few, but not through the merits of my own social ability. It was only through friends I had in elementary and beyond that I expanded my social circle, but never by much

Plus I found rudimentary social skills guides that I started applying at like 15, so that helped too. But I still didn't reach the beginning of my current stage of "fucking juggernaut" till last year, I was almost as losery as anybody here. Except I never got depressed, certain aspects of my upbringing prevented that at a cost of stress and pain
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>>34696825
I don't know, I think never having had gfs is worse for me.
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>>34698438
Ok, I already have all the answers I need to shut my doors.
Another place another time maybe.
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>>34698458

Remember: do drugs!
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I'm a 31 KHV and I tell people all the time.

Actually women are almost all overwhelmingly easygoing with it. I've only had the occasional one who made an issue, and that was more like "I really think you're missing out on something" rather than "omg you're so pathetic pindick, die".

If this is seriously an issue for you OP, go watch a documentary "The Salt of the Earth" 2014, watch it in 1080p or higher. If you watch that, and you can look at the vastness of what goes on on this planet, if you can see refugees from Rwanda starving to death and 4 year olds being being throw onto piles of bodies, and still feel concern for this 'status', you're beyond help.
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>>34696825

Because it's a problem you need another parties help with to get fixed(actual sex, not paying for it). Pretty much everything else in life can be fixed with hard work ,money,etc . things you can achieve by yourself if you really want them.

tl;dr sex requires some one wanting you
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How am I supposed to find a good escort?
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Knowing that no one ever loved me just hurts a whole lot, sex is not as important.
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