I regret Trump

>>34685234
CTR plz go thnx

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>MFW CTR SHILLS ARE STILL A THING

>>34685234
>tfw voted for Trump in Florida
I'd say I goofed but honestly Clinton was awful and my boy Rand got knocked off early.

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>>34685262
I thought r9k was the smart and original board. Give me your thoughts, I don't care what they are.

I know that feel

he really is terrible for the country (isolationist noncompetitive america, giving up "good guy" goodwill built up globally, corporate banking cabinet, etc.)

China is literally the leader in clean energy now over the US. What the fuck was everyone thinking.

>>34685292
I think you need to look for another job.

Originally.

>>34685234
>I want a Nordic style government
Jesus Christ. What a faggot. America is not Europe, and it won't ever be.

>>34685234
Nice try pajeet. Now go make some curry shitskin

No, I'd gladly vote for him again.

He's done nothing I have a problem with.

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>>34685313
He's fucking up our economy, and it doesn't take a genius to know that China is the future. They have the population, the land size, the money, the resources, and increasingly, the influence to be the next superpower. I want us to at least be the bastion of freedom, but it fucking looks like Trump just wants to burn the ship as we go down in the water. We can still be that as we continue to lose influence, but the baggage from Trump might be too severe for us. They title might go to the EU to be the leader of the free world, as China grows in influence, and we just become the Christian Saudi Arabia.

Instead of gracefully transitioning, to a post-white world, Trump wants Armageddon, and he is picking fights with Mexico, EU, Australia, China, and basically everyone except that dictator fuck in Russia, who he defends on a day to day basis. All this while white nationalist Bannon pulls the whole fucking strings on it all. We'll be lucky if we don't balkanize and had civil war, but I don't think we can ever recover as Trump shows that being a fascist emperor is somehow going to be tolerated.

I didn't vote. I feel great about it.

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>>34685234
Proud to have blessed America by voting for Donald J Trump.

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>>34685234
>and I still got fucking cunted up the cunt to vote for basically Hitler.
Can people stop fucking comparing Trump to Hitler? I'm not even a Nazi but Hitler was at least intelligent, meanwhile Trump talks like a 5th grader

>>34685483
>Christian Saudi Arabia
>implying that's a bad thing

>>34685417
You are literally retarded then, no offense and no memeing. The guy is an idiot who already took great measures to cripple the American economy for the future. Maybe that's what you wanted.

>>34685234

I know what you feel, anon
Trump is another religion slave retarded
At least my vote was useless at all.

>>34685234
There's not(or should not be) a doubt in anyone's mind that if it was Bernie V Trump, Bernie would have won hands down.

>>34685234
Are you kidding me? I can't get enough of it, it's the trainwreck that America doesn't want, but it desperately needs. If I could go back in time, I'd vote for him again!

>>34685748
Also, Bernie is actual garbage, hasn't contributed a thing to our country, just leeched off of it.

You need to get woke, OP.

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>>34685746
I swear, the DNC could have run anyone else and this wouldn't have happened. I was just so pissed at her and how fucked she is as a person, and how corrupt and globalist she is, that I let myself get swayed by the alt-right. I couldn't gag myself, and vote for that ice bitch, and many like me couldn't either.

Anyone that disagrees with Trump is a little fucking baby

>>34685234
Fuck off shill!!

Original2$;

>>34685234
Pussy

Over the wall for you

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>>34685234
>I'm a fucking progressive and I voted for Trump
>"I regret (voting for) Trump" because he's not a progressive

are you an idiot?

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>>34685234

I'm happy he won, it gives every other country entertainment for at least the next 4 years

>this pic is the best America had to offer

I don't really regret voting for Trump, except that if Hillary one I'd get to see her more often. I don't know what it is, I hate the crook but she makes my dick diamonds like no other. I don't even have a thing for grannies, I've rubbed one out to Jackie Evancho's ptp or Ivanka plenty of time. I can even see the appeal of thicc Tiffany, and the sultry Melania. There is just something about Shillary that makes me want to break my dick off in her.

I think it's Darwinism or something, trying to make me through away my shitty genes

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>>34686032
I let myself get basically drugged up on the stupor if him and his memes, and my hate for Clinton. I pretended like he wasn't going to be so bad, I focused on his plan to build infrastructure for example. I tried to see the good in him, and justify any excuse to not vote for Clinton. Now that it is over, I see this. If the election was done again, I can fucking tell you that he would not win any of the rust belt states, and Florida would be blue.

>>34685333

You're right. You'll never have the intelligence, discipline, and sense of collective sacrifice and responsibility that Nordic nations have, and that's why you'll continue to stick your fingers in your ears throughout the collapse of your country.

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I mean what choice did you have, voting for the bitch that blamed the frogs

>>34685904
But globalism is the future, my boy. Tribalism is almost as cancerous as Abrahamic religions in the 21st century.

Why should it take an alien invasion to get all of humanity under one governmental structure?

Hes doing a terrible job but I would have been depressed with Clinton. I live in ny so it's not like my vote matters.

>>34686171
nyc or the rest of the state that doesnt matter?

I decided to vote for Johnson. Who's votes were greater than the difference between Hillary and Trump in a lot of states.

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No i've never been more confident politically. This has been the most amazing ride and it just keeps getting better. Trump is actually doing things, and he's doing things that are objectively positive in the long term. He's not going far enough as far as i'm concerned.

The only problem I have with Trump is his aesthetics and vernacular. He presents poorly, but there's only so much you can ask for.

>>34686168
No, globalism is Mr. Shecklesteins future

Keep on chanting "Not my president" please

>>34685333
I want my Nordic style government back.

t. Anon whose country tries to copy America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJEPiJa7UJE&t=69s

>>34685234
As a norskie, I can tell you that the nordic system sound nice, but it isn't. Libertarianism all the way!

>>34685234
>Anyone regret voting for Donald Trump?
No. I hate Trump, but I'm glad I helped fuck over Clinton. Terrible as he is, Trump was only the second-worst option.

>>34685483
>thinks the US couldve been "the last bastion of freedom"
they really got you brainwashed, huh

>>34686211
>he's doing things that are objectively positive in the long term
2 questions

How do you feel about the 20 million americans that no longer have insurance due to the ACA getting fucked? Republicans removed it without a plan to replace it, so for the foreseeable future (Trump's entire term), they will not be able to get medical treatment.
2. Do you believe in global warming?

>>34685234

Were you mad at Hillary? I legit hate her. I'm glad she's gone.

Vote Dems in 2018 and 2020 to make up for it.

>>34685234
>I supported BERNIE
All you can do in life is support memes, my friend

>>34685234
Yes! The Nordic system, with "free" healthcare that you pay on average $1.6M over your lifetime!

>>34685483
>gracefully transitioning to a post-white world
Holy cucklord, Batman
Unironically would prefer total nuclear holocaust to this, better the literal cockroaches inherit the planet than the figurative ones

>>34686221
Huh? What do Da JOOS have to do with this?

I'm not chanting not my president he was democratically elected and I support tougher borders. We should help ourselves before others and we should help others help themselves.

Do you really think in a reality where I can have an instant conversation with someone half way across the world and Turn on the tv to see social and political unrest in places like Romania or South Korea that globalism isn't the future? Maybe not this century but it will happen. It's the logical step for the advancement of humanity.

>>34685234
>betrays his values for internet jokes

you deserved it desu

>>34686315
s-s-shutup l-l-libtard

mmmm those are s-some g-g-good t-tears!

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>>34686316
I hate her, I still hate her, perhaps I hate her even more now, but I would vote for her now in retrospect. Her ego and "its her fucking turn" led to this. SJWs led to this, they killed the left, and I fled as a refugee to Trump and that damn cunt frog.

>>34686351

>Unironically would prefer total nuclear holocaust to this, better the literal cockroaches inherit the planet than the figurative ones

Said smugly a 25 year old NEET.

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>>34686351
it is inevitable as China and India modernize. They have literally everything on their side, and by 2100 the white population will be insignificant. Nothing can stop that except genocide, and because I'm not a maniac, I don't support that. Unfortunately, Trump brings out those maniacs.

Pic very related

>>34686211

>he's doing things that are objectively positive in the long term

Such as? Legitimately curious.

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>>34686380
I was hoping for an actual response because I can't understand why anyone who gives a fuck about anything would be okay with the most powerful leader in the world not believing in climate change.

Or why they'd be cool with essentially killing 20 million diabetics, cancer patients, etc

I've never seen 1 trump supporter answer either of those, besides the fags on /pol/ who don't believe in global warming

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I want us to be a bastion of freedom at least, as China grows, since China is just a fucked up country ethically. We need to save the EU, and stop this Trump effect. I plead you all, in your 2017 and 2018 elections, vote to save the EU, and vote to strengthen it. I will do my part to save America, but we may need to rely on you Europeans to be the beacon of tolerance, freedom, compassion, opportunity, and equality.

>>34686315
Feels good I'm not paying for the worthless poor fucks. Now if he could get rid of affirmative action.

>>34686350

You're framing it this way because you're objectively and comparatively poor and because you've been conditioned since birth to believe contributing to a collective society is evil. On the other hand, Nordics earn so much money and have such a good quality of life and attitude towards each other that million odd dollars over a lifetime doesn't bother them or impact negatively on their life.

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>>34686524
yeah this was pretty much the answer I was expecting

Trump supporters are the dumbest, most disgusting people on this planet

>>34686315
>healthcare
>weather meme
You do understand that this country is much more than hospitals and the EPA, right? The ACA doesn't matter in any long term view. It didn't matter when it was introduced, and it doesn't matter now. All it did was dig a deeper hole in the debt economy we've created in healthcare. It is only a positive thing that it's gone.

And I don't care about climate change. It's irrelevant. But really, the path to American clean energy is getting energy dependent and the EPA has done everything in it's power to stand in the way of that. If you want America to move on from oil then you're need to ask the Saudi's to install solar farms. Otherwise we need to get energy independent and our economy will naturally move toward other options because there is already a huge demand for it.

>>34686524
People who actually think like this should off themselves. Can barely be considered human.

>>34686588
>You do understand that this country is much more than hospitals and the EPA, right? The ACA doesn't matter in any long term view
HAHAHA

the only answer trump fanbois can give

>>34686315
>How do you feel about the 20 million americans that no longer have insurance due to the ACA getting fucked?
I feel great about that. Nothing's free, someone had to pay for that shit. It sucks to not be able to afford diabetes treatment I guess, but it sucks to grow old and die or to have a massive stroke too; are you going to try to outlaw that as well? You can't outlaw nature and your feeble attempts to try just amount to theft and the bloating of a totalitarian state structure. Fuck you and fuck your redistributionism.

>Do you believe in global warming?
Yes, and that makes me pretty salty that you guys wasted your time pushing unelectable cunts with idiot beliefs so the guy who doesn't believe in it had no credible opposition. If you think it's so damn crucial and time-citical, why did you still spend all your time indulging communists and idpol freaks? If I'd had a choice between an ACA defunding muslim evicter who believes in global warming, and another one who doesn't, I would've picked number one. But I didn't have that choice. Why, if it's so fucking important? The fact that you wasted your time bleating about the rights of trannies shows how important YOU thought global warming was. You made this bed, so shut the fuck up and lie in it.

>>34686619
>I'm poor and rich people make me sick

Piss off fucking white-knighting faggot

>>34686315
>>34686380
>>34686477
Why do you keep replying to yourself?

>>34686524

The joke is you're always going to pay regardless. In fact, you're now going to pay more. Good work, you stupid, short sighted moron.

>>34686588
>>weather meme
holy shit

>You do understand that this country is much more than hospitals and the EPA, right?
Therefor, 20 million americans suddenly not being able to receive medical treatment for their life threatening problems is a non-issue. I see.

>>34686588
>And I don't care about climate change. It's irrelevant.
Besides the rising sea level, the acidification of the oceans destroying underwater ecosystems, the gradually increasing global average temperatures causing some areas to become uninhabitable, etc. etc.

Let's be clear: When asked why you think it doesn't matter if 20 million americans lose access to healthcare and why global warming isn't an immediately obvious problem, you can't answer with "Well it obviously just doesn't matter!"

>>34686573
Yeah you just told me. It's not like I have first hand experience. You know, it's not like I am from the Nordics or anything...

>>34686672
I'm fine with being a white knight in that regard as long as people like you still off themselves.

>I'm poor and rich people make me sick
>Implying I personally give a shit about money.

>>34686707

>he thinks we're on /pol/ and I've just stupidly ignored his flag

You know you're an idiot, right?

>>34686350

Canadians pay on average half of what Americans pay for healthcare costs.

>>34685234
I'm not falling for your shill speak.
You're trying to get others to question their own decisions.
My resolve is as strong as ever.
Trump is doing good work and I will continue to support him through his administration.
Your upset that Trump is doing what he promised?
You're pathetic.

>>34686655
>but it sucks to grow old and die or to have a massive stroke too; are you going to try to outlaw that as well?
Aging isn't the same as dying due to a treatable disease.

>You can't outlaw nature

What the fuck does this even mean? How fucking stupid are you, really?

>The fact that you wasted your time bleating about the rights of trannies shows how important YOU thought global warming was
>If you think it's so damn crucial and time-citical, why did you still spend all your time indulging communists and idpol freaks?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

If you need to put words in my mouth to have a good argument - you don't have a good argument.

>>34686588

You do know that America spent more on healthcare than any other OECD country per capita before Obamacare? Now Obamacare is shit, but it is at least a step in the right direction.

As for the debt. Trump's budget adds 10 trillion to the debt as a starting point.

>>34686740
And what makes you say that exactly?

>>34685234
Stand by your convictions, you pussy. My decision was to skip voting, get high and watch looney tunes starring Foghorn Leghorn and I stick by it.

>>34686780
good i can't wait for all those dumb americans to suffer a slow painful DEATH due to no healthcare

>>34686429
China and India have a self-destructive system, only empowered by quick industrialization to catch up to the West, however it does not have the right leadership to use that in an efficient way, which basically creates their overpopulated cesspools that are only filled with inefficiency.

If the West dies there's gonna be some shit for the East to handle

I am not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

>>34686797
I would've voted for you

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>>34686830
He already has them?

I smell a shill.

>>34686791

Oh, I don't know, maybe the fact you're too stupid to grasp that nobody knows what country you're from on this board?

Any other dumb questions, idiot?

>>34686756
So? What matter sis who does the paying, healthy or sick people. People should pay for their own treatment, anything own is unjust.

Also, the double-cost thing is most likely because of insurance company shenanigans, which ACA wasn't fixing at all -- on the contrary, insurers loved that shit, guaranteed business! Nobody's denying that US healthcare has problems, but socialized healthcare isn't the answer.

>>34686830
>Not woke enough to see through his normiebook memes and Jew York Times updates

>>34686874

>paying far less than what we currently do is not the answer!

Christ, can your tongue worm its way any deeper into kike asshole?

>>34686698
>20 million americans suddenly not being able to receive medical treatment
What exactly do you think the ACA was? You think it was a act to keep people on life support? It was cheap insurance that was still really expensive. I had it for a while, I know. People can still go to the hospital you absolute lunatic

>rising sea level, the acidification of the oceans destroying underwater ecosystems, the gradually increasing global average temperatures
What do you think happens when America becomes completely green? All of that would still happen for two reasons. North America is not a big carbon producer anymore. But most importantly that isn't the way this works at all. Climate change cannot be throttled with less carbon output. Once it's released it's effects are permanent and effect the climate in cumulatively and over long periods of time.

Fucking ignorant fear mongering idiots.

>>34686780
>a step in the right direction
It isn't at all. It's a band-aid at best. A step in the right direction would be auditing the entire healthcare system and deflating costs, which every country needs to do

>>34686772
>What the fuck does this even mean?
It means you have terrible reading comprehension most likely due to being retarded. If someone has diabetes, it's nobody else's fault and nobody else's responsibility -- it's just nature. It's fate. It's his own problem, not the problem of whoever happens to have the money to pay for it.

>>34686874
>So? What matter sis who does the paying, healthy or sick people.

Healthy people won't pay for insurance if they don't have to. Thus they opt out. Then it means only sick people are left and costs go up because there's fewer people.

>People should pay for their own treatment, anything own is unjust.

You DO pay for your own treatment. Everyone pays for it, and they can use it when they can. Everyone eventually will need medical treatment at some time or another. There's no mythical group of people who stays healthy their entire lives. And healthy people can be struck down randomly with illness at any time. As a Canadian, I have the security knowing that I will not be bankrupted if I suddenly get cancer or get into a car accident.

>Also, the double-cost thing is most likely because of insurance company shenanigans, which ACA wasn't fixing at all -- on the contrary, insurers loved that shit, guaranteed business! Nobody's denying that US healthcare has problems, but socialized healthcare isn't the answer.

So insurance companies are the problem, but a system that bypasses the insurance companies isn't the answer? This reeks of nothing but knee jerk responses.

>>34685234
I voted Trump and he has met and surpassed all my expectations, I don't know what you're on about.

>>34686905
>we
Stop conflating those in need of medical treatment and the healthy as though the average was at all meaningful, you useless faggot. What we pay *on average* means literally nothing, what matters is that the person who needs, is the person who pays. If you told me that "well if we socialized clothes we'd only pay half as much for clothes per capita" I wouldn't be a bit more convicned that we should make the rich pay for everybody's clothes, either.

>>34685234
>im a fucking retard and regret the one single worthwhile thing i've done in my life
cool story bro

>>34685635
>this
at least Adolf fucking knew what he was doing with his malice. Trump is just moronic

>>34685234
all this shows is that you're impressionable, try not being a limp wristed faggot and make up your own damn mind

I find hilarious that americans elected Trump. It's like electing a fucking clown for president

Keep the good work, americans! I love y'all

>>34686914
>What exactly do you think the ACA was? You think it was a act to keep people on life support? It was cheap insurance that was still really expensive. I had it for a while, I know. People can still go to the hospital you absolute lunatic

One of the best parts of the ACA was that you couldn't deny anyone for past ailments. Before, insurance companies could deny coverage for anything. They could even take your money for years, and then when you need it, whoops, sorry, you have a pre-condition. Sorry. Go die in a gutter or accept crippling debt.

>>34685234

It was a choice between starting WW3 or ruining life for non-white americans.

>>34687060
That's the beauty of it. He makes everyone look like what they actually are, a bunch of ignorant self-absorbed privileged sacs of shit.

>all these trump supporters
wow, 50% of americans are ACTUALLY retarded

>>34686991
>Then it means only sick people are left and costs go up because there's fewer people.
You... you mean if the sick have to pay for their own treatment it's more expensive for them??!?!?!?! OH NO oh wait that's exactly what I want, never mind.

>blah blah healthy people can be struck down randomly with illness at any time blah blah fearmongering
You're fucking retarded if you think everyopne gets out at least as much as they pay in. Necessarily some people HAVE to be paying more than they get out or the system wouldn't work at all and/or would literally be the system where everyone pays for the exact treatment they receive and no more. GTFO with your communist shill trash.

>a system that bypasses the insurance companies
Do you even know the first fucking thing about Obamacare? It was legislation to make purchasing insurance mandatory, not a bypass of any kind.

>>34686914
>You think it was a act to keep people on life support?
It gave them access to insurance. They can't get insurance anymore.

That's the difference.

If they go to the hospital without insurance, they're fucked. I'm not arguing with you about this. If you're a normal person in the U.S. and you try to get healthcare without insurance, you'll be paying off your debt for years, especially if it's for something that requires treatment over an extended period of time, like Cancer.

>What do you think happens when America becomes completely green?
We start cracking down on everyone else.
>Once it's released it's effects are permanent and effect the climate in cumulatively and over long periods of time.
Look up CDR methods.
>>34686926
That's a really, really stupid fucking argument, such to the point that I don't really feel like I need to argue with you. Even republicans wouldn't try to make the dumbass argument that the government shouldn't try to prevent unneeded deaths through social safety nets.

You have no human empathy, there's no way I can change that. But, most people do, so i don't even need to try.

I feel like if someone asked what your political beliefs are you could just say "Edgy" and you'd have said enough.

>>34685234
>Anyone regret voting for Donald Trump?
Nope.

I am actually in shock that a politician is keeping his promises and getting to work on them from day1 week 1.

I was a democrat before the last election and before.

>>34685234
Dude just fuck off you pussy.

>>34687142

Fine. Enjoy your system where you pay twice as much as I do. All for the added benefit that you dont' have to be paying YOUR money to pay for poor people and preventing bankrupsies. Because having thousands of bankrupsies per year is great for the economy right.

And I'm sure you must feel so much better that your money is lining the pocket of a rich insurance company executive. They sit in their jakuzzi, sipping on Champayne that you paid for.

>>34687063
You are so stupid it hurts.

With the ACA instead of paying huge bills directly you also pay huge bills for insurance. ACA is not universal healthcare. They're still fucking you hard and you're still paying out the ass. $20,000 being cut down to $12,000 means nothing to a poor person in a gutter, you absolute moron. You people act like being insured is some god send from a time where people "died in gutters". As if that actually happens in the American healthcare system.

>>34687144
refer to the above statement

>If they go to the hospital without insurance, they're fucked
It's so obvious that you people never had ACA insurance or have ever been to a hospital without insurance.

>>34685234
Keep blaming others for your own stupid mistake If you're too stupid to look at the policies of both candidates that's nobody's fault but your own. Now enjoy Wall Street running the country for 4 years

>>34687266
desu, wall street would rule the country anyways. They always win.

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>>34685234
Same OP. After all this crazy shit he's been doing I've finally realized we can't let this man have the nuclear codes.

>>34687127
>wow, 50% of americans are ACTUALLY retarded
exactly why I am moving out of this shithole after I graduate

republicans will always hold this country back

>>34685383
But I can't as I was deported

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STOP REPLYING TO SHILLS YOU FUCKING RETARDS
>OP IS A SHILL
>MOST PEOPLE REPLYING IN THE POSITIVE ARE SHILLS
>ALL PEOPLE REPLYING AS RETARD TROLLS ARE SHILLS MAKING TRUMP SUPPORTERS LOOK BAD

THIS THREAD IS 90% SHILLS 9% RETARDS FALLING FOR IT & 1% ME

reee

>>34687526

>anyone who disagrees with me is a shill

Conspiraist style thinking just shuts people off mentally from the world around you. It's not healthy.

>>34687142
>You... you mean if the sick have to pay for their own treatment it's more expensive for them??!?!?!?! OH NO oh wait that's exactly what I want, never mind.

The reason we have health insurance in the first place is because it's incredibly costly. You can't just pay it out of your back pocket change. It's not a tv. It's also why we have car insurance for accidents.

>>34687526
>THIS THREAD IS 90% SHILLS 9% RETARDS FALLING FOR IT & 1% ME
>55 posters
>Anon is just over half of a man
Sorry about your castration, Anon, but look on the bright side -- at least you weren't born a woman.

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>>34685483
>gracefully transitioning, to a post-white world
You gave yourself away.

>>34685234
>vote for basically Hitler

Tumblrnigger detected

Kys faggit

I'm happy he won for a number of reasons, not the least of which how upset people like OP still are.

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>>34685483
>China is the future

Do any of your niggers ever been to china? or done business with the chinese?

I have, china is shit: imagine living in a country where everybody is dirt poor except for a tiny minority that got rich only because they were part of the communist party and simply got all the contracts from foreign because of legacy rights

All those chinks in canada? they are the fuerdai, the sons of those communist party leaders that went from owning a donkey during the mao era to being billionaires because they were the only ones authorized to do business once deng opened the doors, so even if they didn't know how to do shit they still got money for having a rank

Those guys are buying property all over canada and australia because the chinese economy is a fucking joke. No other country that big has a total ban on currency exchange which is why bitcoin is so big over there: capital flight

These same assholes who created that communist system are now buying every business jet available so they can escape china when it all collapses and the starving masses go looking for them

I'm calling it now so screenshot this post.

global warming caused by fossil fuel usage is going to destroy the climate of the equator and there will be famine in many third world countries, then those poo in loos etc. will spill into Europe, Aus, and North America at a rate you never even thought possible. Like millions on the borders.

>>34685635
>Hitler
>intelligent
You're thinking of Mussolini.

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@34685234

>there shills who have not yet killed themselves

The electoral college is an outdated shitty system that lets rural counties with a people count of 200 have as much say as population dense city capitols.

I've hated orange man ever since first seeing his normie ass on the apprentice, but I can't say I'm mad at his voters out in bumfuck backwoodsville going out to vote and take advantage of their voter value over those who live in actual cities.

>>34687091
>implying WW3 hasn't already started

>>34685234
Voted for Johnson 2bh, should've been Petersen though

>>34688161
It's funny because even the US DoD advisors said something along these lines. Meanwhile, all the anti-intellectual faggots are screaming about how climate change isn't real.

>>34688279
People living in cities are the worst types of people. Not only are they incredible assholes, but they're entitled little children. Everything is handed to them for free, and they've never done real work a day in their lives.

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>>34688279

>it's not fair that rural voters have a little representation
>it would be more fair if LA and NYC had all the representation

>>34685234
you're a cuck

daily reminder that every trump hater is a cuck

as an american citizen it is our duty to detect them and make they know what they are.

cuck cuck cuck!

>tfw /r9k/ gets duped by another chad
Bernie was our guy. I think he could have made life better for robots.

We missed out because the Democrats chose Stacy instead, and then we were tricked by a billionaire chad who promised to make our problems go away.
It was nothing more than a battle between Chad and Stacy. And Chad won (again).

Clinton is a puppet of the aliens and had a seizure every time they got in contact.

Look it up.

>>34688439
Socialism doesn't work.

of course this isn't original

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>>34688439

But Trump is a Chad who triggers the fuck out of millions of coloreds, normies and roasties. Also Bernie would have lost even harder than Shillary did. An old socialist kike is not going to win a presidential election in America.

>>34688439
>old jewish guy who hates whites
>our guy
unless you're black he was most certainly not our guy

>>34688465
>Bernie
>socialist
Just because he sold himself as a socialist (don't know why either, I thought that would only lose him support) doesn't mean he is a socialist.

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>>34685234
Trump is smoke and mirrors. Real change cannot be brought by smoke and mirrors. You want a white nationalist utopia free of degeneracy? You won't get it under the current system. A libertarian society maybe but it will only be a sick degenerate jewified society. Trump is a jew plant as we all highly suspected btw

>>34688526
>le free everything man
>not a socialist

>>34688526

You can't decide what other people choose to identify themselves as, shitlord

>>34688601
>socialism is le free everything
Good one

>All these normies
If you were a true robot you'd welcome Trump fucking everything and everyone. Let it all burn and crash down fuck you normalfags, I hope he presses the button.

>>34688597
>too serious to be b8

>>34688597
Who the fuck wants white nationalist utopia free of degeneracy?

I'll never understand how you tards can be all for freedom and talk about how the biggest authoritarian's wet dream is your utopia.

Stop with the cognitive dissonance please. You either accept that you don't get to tell people what to do socially/privately or just sign up with your nearest commie party because it's practically the same thing.

>>34688161
>will spill into Europe, Aus, and North America
You mean they'll zerg rush the border. Simple solution, though: we'll just have elected people who aren't such bleeding-heart fags by then and will just shoot illegal invaders or let them drown.

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>>34685234
I worked for the Democrats in PA to try and stop this. Now it is too late, and I have accepted this reality your faggotry causes.

Feels mixed man

I kinda feel you man.
I live abroad and since both candidates were shit to say the least and the other parties had no chance to begin with, I didn't bother going through that whole abroad registration thing.
I still don't know who I'd have voted for but somehow, I wish I at least did something. Weird.

>>34685234
Long story short: You are a massive cuck.

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>>34685234
Are you kidding? He's doing everything he promised. It's almost magic.

>>34689077
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0AKJMGxwpE

>>34689116
But anon, it's racist.

>>34689150
Why is that a bad thing though?

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>>34685234
>basically Hitler.
Calm down fucking liberal cunt jesus christ

i'll laugh fucking hard when an actual Hitler-like figure arises somewhere in the world but nobody believes you when you cry "Hitler" because you wore it out on people who took a soft stance against gay marriage in 1989.

>>34689184
Let them run Hitler into the ground. They already have done it with Nazi, Racist, and White Supremacist.

They will run out of buzzwords soon enough.

>>34689150
RACISM IS UNITY
RACISM IS STRENGTH

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>>34689184
almost all legal scholars state that Trump, even in the most charitable terms, is proto-fascist. You can see it everyday in his tweets.

>ooga booga, he's getting shit done

Maybe, but by constantly yelling, and threatening war, social collapse, and taking funding away. This has a chilling effect on dissidence, and it chapter 1 becoming, or readying the soil, of a dictator. (Hint, maybe Don Jr will be the real fascist after The Donald has moved the overton window eighty miles right. It's called dynasties.)

>>34685234

feel exactly the same as you, only i'm not american so dont have the blood of voting on my hands.

would have voted trump though and would regret it now.

>>34689294
>taking funding away
>from dissidents
>this is fascism
Yes, this is exactly how to run it right into the fucking ground. Good job, simp! Every time someone criticizes the gibmedats or otherwise has a different ideal from yours, that's fascism! You have to keep calling it fascism! No matter what!

It's the corruption that got me. He said he'd drain the swamp but this whole fucking cabinet (majority) are Goldman Sachs jewbags and other donors. Then I read that they deregulated the Dodd- Frank thing, you know bank regulation Obama put in place in response to the economic crisis? I think we're fucked. The corporate/ donor funded fucking corrupt Republicans will drive this country into the ground. FUCK AND MY FUCKING DAD STILL SUPPORTS HIM BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING 90 DAY MUSLIM BAN ITS ONLY A FUCKING 90 DAY DISTRACTION WHILE THE HOUSE SHEKELS ARE PASSING BILLS N SHIT

>>34689318
Your posts are too contrived, keep your shilling simple.

>>34689294
Sounds more like he is getting tough with a handful of people who have gotten away with too much for too long.
They are acting like a spoilt teenager throwing a tantrum and as such he will treat them like one.

>>34689294
>almost all legal scholars
What the fuck are you talking about? Namedrop 1.

>>34689485
especially with Goldman-Sachs, am I right? boy he's really going to drain that swamp!!

>>34689387
check the 14 signs of fascism you delusional sadsack

>>34689294
>dictator.
You could elect fucking Mussolini to the presidency of the united states and he would still be gone in 4 years you dumb fucking retard. Calm down.

>>34686429
>it is inevitable as China and India modernize.
>the environment

Pick one

Man all you neets who voted for trump watch out. No more neetbux, you will now work in a sweatshop for 2 dollars / hr once all the regulations are deregulated the jobs are BACK!

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


guys a /pol/ user stole this thread
>>>/pol/111427769

>>34689573
Not only that, but you could elect Mussolini and he still wouldn't be a dictator. Unless he actually seized power in a military coup he'd just be the President. All this wailing's incredibly dumb, but I guess it just proves that it was about damn time to smash the liberal chokehold on the system.

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Answer to yourself how many of these Trump seems to effortlessly fulfill.

>>34686758

> drinkin the cool aid

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>>34689709
OP here, for the record, that is not me on /pol/ so don't conflate us.

>mods start cracking down on trap threads and deleting them like crazy
>anti-trump threads start popping up immediately and spammed constantly

really makes you think

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By the /pol/ post seems like I made a 15 seconds of fame copy pasta though. There is a reason I didn't post this, there.

>>34689748
>11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fully idiotic t b h, anyone with half a brain has a disdain for these people nowadays. It would be different if intellectuals weren't all Foucault-poisoned Marxist shills and the arts weren't full of wannabe politicians whining about how the message is what matters, not the craftsmanship or aesthetics, but as it is you'd have to be retarded not to hate them.

>>34689748
Very few. What's your point?

>>34689786
Deleting bad threads makes room for good threads.

>>34689868
Tranny faggots are mentally ill and blaming /pol/ for not being accepted

>>34688121
Your shitty madeup story written to shill trump means jackshit
You want it or not, China will be the center of the world, biggest population, fastest growth
I admit they have shitty living standards and exploit their people but since when did that ever stop capitalism?
Thats how capitalism works, China will grow larger

>>34685234
If you're a real liberal you should feel worse that you didn't shill even harder for bernie. The hope for the change you want died back in June, not in November. Clinton was a garbage candidate, if she won the current situation would hardly be different.

If you want real change get onboard with the justice democrats thing so you won't be in this shit situation again in 4 years. There's no use crying over spilt milk.

I also supported Bernie. Then I supported Trump. I regret nothing. And if you regret supporting the candidate who utterly demolished the nasty woman who committed flagrant electoral fraud against Bernie to win the nomination, and again against Trump in the general, then you are not a true liberal. They found liberal districts in Detroit that had more votes than voters because they fed the ballots into the machines multiple times, for example. The Democrats oppose voter ID because they like to import foreign trespassers to vote on behalf of dead people in our elections.

The Democrat party is without honor. Say what you like about the Republicans, but the votes in the Republican primary were counted fairly. The Republicans are the only major party in this country that respects the vote. Trump won fairly and in compliance with the law despite playing against a deck stacked heavily and very illegally in his opponent's favor.

We must never permit electoral fraud in any candidate, no matter how distasteful another basically law-abiding candidate might be. Successful electoral fraud denies the electorate their most basic and fundamental right, the right from which all other rights are derived: democracy itself. The vote is sacred, and we must deal harshly with anyone who would defile it. The Democrat Party must be burned to the ground, then the spent coals must be pulverized with mortar bombardment, and then salt must be sown on the blackened and cratered ground where it once stood.

>>34686315
Okay Merifag here.
I'm basically broke and I don't have health insurance. ACA was stupidly expensive and it cost as much as my rent monthly. My job doesn't provide health care so I'm stuck winging it for the next few years until I can afford insurance. Fuck you.
I hate people like you because everyone who fucking defends this shit doesn't even have it.

>>34690182
Holy shit, I thought the justice democrats to be a TYT meme but seeing someone else mention them I have slightly more hope.

>>34688821
>being a robot
>supporting a wealthy chad
pick one

>>34690603
Guess you should have a better job eh anon?

>>34686350
My Mother had cancer while inn her 30s, she is 57 years old now, and have probably spent less than 25 000 dollars on healthcare through her entire life this far. Where do you get 1.6 mill from? Norwayfag here.

Ps: I am 26 and have a chronic disease, I have spent less than 2000 dollars on doctors since I was 20

>>34690681
I make too much to be eligible I also make too little to afford the premium.

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>>34690711
Oh, sorry. Here in the States some people like that anon have confused businesses and government working for you for you working for them.

I've actually had an anon retarded enough to tell me "the free market will sort everything out"

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>>34685234
Why are you so upset anon? Is it because he is keeping his campaign promises?

>>34687019
It's totally like an X-Ray machine of an MRI machine is for one person only, by that logic everyone should have to buy one for themselves... Plus they are multiuser and not just for diagnosing cancer and there are socialized clothes... They are called prison garments

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>>34689812
>I can't handle dissenting opinions so I'll just BUZZWORD

Hitler was a piss-poor artist, btw.

>>34690348
But gerrymandering is a-ok.

>>34685234
further proof that bernie cucks are weak-minded beta males incapable of independent thought

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>>34686168
>But globalism is the future, my boy.
Yeah but crony globalization is not, my dude.

>Tribalism is almost as cancerous as Abrahamic religions in the 21st century.
Abrahamic religions were cancerous because of tribalism, my pseudo intellectual dude.

>Why should it take an alien invasion to get all of humanity under one governmental structure?
wat

>>34686574
>Trump supporters are the dumbest, most disgusting people on this planet.

Not an argument. Goodnight white cuck.

>>34685234
Lol the good news :

The other candidate was equally as bad

The bad news :

Enjoy what you helped create

The STUPIDEST administration in history

>>34691037
>The STUPIDEST administration in history
>The other candidate was equally as bad

???

>>34685234

Peyton on the broncos like jordan on the wizards

stay with your team and don't switch over nigga

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>trump is elected
>nothin changes
>still no gf
>lonelier than ever
>never leave house
now i just sit in basement eating chocolate pudding and salty chocolate ice cream balls

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>>34691005
>Yeah but crony globalization is not, my dude.
Agreed

>Abrahamic religions were cancerous because of tribalism, my pseudo intellectual dude.
I know but what I meant by tribalism in that sense was ethno-centrism. Religions are an idea. They were useful when man still didn't know a lot about the sciences but now they're mostly a detriment. Secular humanism is the future, friend.

>wat
Well think about pop culture. Halo, Independence day, even that recent movie, Arrival. The only time humanity ever comes together is when it's facing a threat of some kind.

WHAT YOU DIDNT KNOW :

He is SUCH a loudly businessman (who refused to show his taxes because he's only got around $300 million) that he defaulted on not just one, but ALL the banks

The banks got together, and decided losing MOST of the money was smarter than losing ALL of it

So they decided to keep the bum afloat

They got together a team of attorneys to represent them

During a monumental meeting regarding his losses, the attorneys were STUNNED at how stupid Trump is

AGAIN : STUPID AS SHIT

They were amazed at how he DIDNT 'get it's....

Trump had a guy waiting behind a door for a 'cue', and when he heard it, he walked in the room with a box

This box was filled with autographed copies of THE ART OF THE DEAL, which Trump passed around to the lawyers

He's an idiot

Just research the opinions of the GHOSTWRITER of art of the deal

He tells it all

This reminds me of that time my sister wanted to have practice sex to prepare for her date. She came home after school one day all flustered and said that her crush would only date her if they had sex after dinner. Mind you she was 15 and this dude was 18, while I myself was 10.

She told me to put on a suit, light up some candles on the dinner table and microwave a TV dinner. I didn't have a suit so I put on my dad's which was oversized, even if I was pretty big for my age and did as she asked. I love my sister so I didn't question much but when she wanted to practice kissing after eating I got a little nervous so I backed out a little. We ended up doing that thing the dogs did in Lady & the Tramp which made it a little less awkward

My sister had never had sex before, and obviously neither had I. She had no real formal sex education but had seen a porno flick after sneaking into the theater last year. I'm guessing that's where her knowledge came from because she had some pretty detailed requests, asking me to take off her bra and rub her breast, and in turn she would take off my pants and poke my weiner. We went to her bedroom and she gently tied me to the frame with her bra and took off her underwear. I didn't know what was going on and I didn't have any real sexual attraction to my sister but I got a slight chubby and she got on top of me and slid it in her vagina. She told me that she'd do all the work because I didn't know how and kinda started jumping up and down on my semi. This scared my penis a bit so it became flaccid and she was tired from all the movement so she kinda just laid on top of me with my penis in her for about thirty minutes before she told me to release. I thought she meant pee because I didn't know how to ejaculate yet so I peed inside her and then she cancelled her date because she thought sex was gross. The dude ended up having herpes so it was for the best. But in all seriousness, we can't let this guy get his hands on the nuclear codes.

>>34691186
who care only chads will come together with roasties
there will never be a place for us

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>>34685234

you are falling for the meme again

America isn't over and donald trump isn't "LITERALLY HITLER S M H"

How wrong really is a muslim ban?

I for one support it just because I don't like any body who practices religion, much less such a shitty one. Atleast he isn't fucking Trudeau.

His plan for tax reform involves getting rid of taxes for low income singles and getting rid of the death tax. That's good.

>>34691070
You don't have a team

You never did

And you can't play football

You couldn't handle being tackled

Now go cry a little bit more, and maybe someone will take pity on you this time

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>>34691236
I for one support it just because I don't like any body who practices religion, much less such a shitty one

Well played, good gentlesir! See you at the vaping convention. :^)

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>>34686102
OY VEY WHERE'S YOUR TOLERANCE GOY!?

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>>34691232
>le funny story xDDD
you need to go back

>>34691344
What religion are you?

>>34691344

haha funny meme good gif

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>>34691463
N/A

Nice try.

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>>34685313
>giving up "good guy" goodwill built up globally, corporate banking cabinet, etc.
.01 shekels have been deposited into your account

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>>34686102
>nordic nation
you mean the failed ideological state that is sweden? what the fuck does that even mean

what the fuck is going on in this thread

>>34690348
Gerrymandering does not affect presidential elections. It only affects House elections. Thank you for catching my error in not mentioning the matter. My point regarding Trump's election still stands.

Of course gerrymandering is crap. But at least the Republican-controlled states count the votes within their blatantly gerrymandered districts accurately. In red America, your districts might be wonky, but your vote is still actually counted. Democrats also gerrymander, and they apparently raise the dead annually to pad their numbers. Republican politicians are a bunch of greedy, underhanded bastards, but at least they're not necromancers.

>>34690998
Above statement about gerrymandering is for this comment.

>>34691235
We'll have our own place. With AIWaifus and VR.

>>34685234
im pretty disappointed in trump now honestly, but I'm glad he won over Hillary.

>>34685234
Trump isn't Hitler at all. He's actually more of an American version of the Ayatollah. The government is basically oil and religion combined with a few other businesses involved. Soon only land owning Chads will have the right to vote and polygamy will become law. The feminist will support the Chads screwing all the women because sex witChad empowers them

>>34690978
>Hitler was a piss-poor artist, btw.
not really, if you knew anything about art at all.
hes not fantastic, but he has some of the technical stuff down pretty decently

>>34691687
>im pretty disappointed in trump now honestly
I dont get why youre dissapointed, everything that man has done has been great. Hes done what he said he would do. Idk how you could be dissapointed if he followed through with his promises, perhaps displeased.

>>34691701
>The government is basically oil and religion combined with a few other businesses involved.
because obama DID NOTHING based on the interests of oil and religion
go fucking kill yourself m8

>>34685313

>china leader in clean energy

You realize china burns more coal than any other country on the entire planet and make no attempts to scrub the emissions

You realize 80% of the plastic floating in the ocean is from China right

The Teflon Don is far from perfect but holy shit if you're gonna complain, get educated. It's like the fucking cuckolds in Canadian politics that are killing all the work in the Alberta Oilsands when China produces over 50 times the emissions Canada does. You could erase Canada from the face of the earth and China would still be producing 49 Canadas worth of emissions. That's 2%.

So TL;DR if you want to be a fucking tree hugger and worry about the environment how about you hit the fucking countries that actually pollute the shit out of the earth like China and India when North America is already doing a pretty sweet job of cleaning up after ourselves. Killing the Canadian / US economies so we can produce less greenhouse gases while China belches out TENS of times more than we do is fucking stupid.

>>34686315
Obama should have implemented single-payer like they have in Norway. It would have been cheaper, and then literally every citizen would have been covered. Then, the health insurance companies would only be able to offer deluxe add-on packages and health insurance for non-citizens. The health insurance companies bought off the Democrats because what their constituents actually wanted would have made most of their industry no longer exist.

It is necessary to utterly demolish the Democrat party so that actual progressive policies can be implemented, even if this causes harm to patients in the near-term. Because of the unmitigated havoc that Clinton and her minions have wreaked on the progressive cause, the Bernie movement has to ally with the Trump movement for now on the common cause of restoring democracy and the rule of law.

The electorate can have a fair debate about capitalist socialism vs. libertarianism (deluxe govt. package vs. basic govt. package) once we finish building a marketplace of ideas. We thought we had a marketplace of ideas, but the vendors never delivered what we the people actually purchased. We have to make alliances of convenience and make ethical compromises in order to ensure that the Democrat party is carpet-bombed to oblivion as thoroughly as possible. This will result in many actual casualties as collateral damage. So be it. Blame Clinton. We had no choice.

>>34691514
Then you're a fedora tipper too.

>>34686350
The lifetime total cost of a government program is not a good metric for comparing these things. What matters in public policy is annual cost. $1.6 million per lifetime works out to about $35K per work year per person. Healthcare is inherently expensive, so this cost is actually fair. Decent employer-provided health insurance costs the company about $30K per employee. The after-tax cash and non-cash total of full-time workers' salaries are about 1/3 to 1/2 health insurance in the 'States.

Americans have similar income per-person to Norway when you consider the fact that employer-provided healthcare is best understood as a tax-like deduction from wages. When Norway's cost of healthcare is considered in light of their use of a progressive tax rate schedule like we have in the States, which makes their per-person heathcare costs lower for the poor; when the wage deduction from employer-provided healthcare is factored into the cost comparison; and when the American system-wide costs are considered per-person in addition to direct medical costs and insurance costs, the Norwegian system is actually about the same cost as ours. When you also factor in cost of compliance, which is the value of the time spent on dealing with the red tape on a particular system, the Norwegian system is cheaper due to the reduced hassle of a single-payer system.

>>34685691
Christian Saudi and Muslim Saudi wouldn't be that different Desu. They'd become more and more extreme. Old Christians used to veil their women too.

>>34688300
yeah, with paco and his gang

>>34686429
No significant portion of the Trump movement wants genocide. The fact that a tiny portion of his supporters are actual Nazis is irrelevant. A tiny portion of Clinton's supporters, that is, Antifa, are anarcho-communists, which is every bit as crazy and bloodthirsty as eugenicist fascism. Antifa actually receives funding from their billionaire standard-bearer, Soros. The Koch brothers do not fund the KKK splinter groups. The MSM explicitly supports Antifa. Drudge, Breitbart, and Infowars do not explicitly support the KKK. Also, the KKK are less violent and less racist than Antifa.

i'm tired of this politics shit. it was funny at first but now it's just annoying as hell. both sides won't shut the fuck up

>>34686441
Border control. Actual enforcement of immigration and customs is absolutely necessary for preventing the spread of diseases. The previous administrations' decades of explicit refusal to control in any meaningful sense the flow of people across our borders has resulted in the re-introduction of leprosy, bubonic plague, and tuberculosis into the US. These diseases had already been more or less eradicated here. It has also resulted in the introduction of agricultural diseases and invasive species.

Routine quarantining of diseases at the borders to prevent the spread of diseases into the US, and therefore, from the US into our allies' territory, is an absolute, non-negotiable domestic and foreign policy obligation that is common to all countries. The fact that diseases exist makes the "progressive" concept of universal open borders outright barbaric and inhumane. Diseases are humanity's most dangerous enemy, and sanitation is the most important benefit of living in the civilized world. Quarantines and national borders are the most ancient and most important sanitation techniques in existence. We have known that foreigners bring strange diseases since the bronze age. "Open borders" is literally a primitive stone-age idea, not a progressive ideal.

>>34685691
for the love of god drink bleach before you manage to procreate.

>>34686084
idk man. she looks like one of those post menopausal types who dries up and never puts out again.

*source* this is why my dad left my mom.

>>34686477
Progressives apparently do not believe in national borders, and therefore, in the most basic and fundamental aspect of disease prevention and control, the quarantine. It is far better to elect a candidate who disagrees with global warming than a candidate who disagrees with sanitation. Not believing in modern sanitation is far more primitive than not believing in global warming.

>>34685234
I voted for him too. I don't really dislike him as much as his fan club.

>>34686490
The EU is a return to imperialism, which is a much more primitive concept than nationalism. We abandoned imperialism after WWII as a species, broke up our empires, and gave all peoples democratic control over their own countries as much as was achievable at the time. And then barely 50 years later you damned idiots just straight up permitted Germany to implement the Third Reich under a different name without so much as a whimper, much less a proper fight. Now you all are just letting millions of Muslim terrorists come in and rape and pillage you, the lawlessness of whom will give Germany an excuse to implement a police state.

We Americans are saving you European morons from yourselves by trying our best to counter your governments' propaganda. The German populace does not want world domination now, just like they didn't want it when Hitler rose to power. The Germans were horrified to learn what Hitler had done. These megalomaniacal schemes are always dreamed up by a few sociopathic politicians, who manipulate their constituents to unwittingly support their unethical and inhumane ambitions.

Yet again, a few German politicians are trying to take over the world. This should not be surprising. It has not been that long since the second world war. People Merkel's age could have easily been protoges of actual Nazis who fought in the war. The last two attempts at military domination failed, so they are trying to do this through diplomatic means now. The Nazis have learned patience and subtlety, which makes them much more dangerous. Stop just letting the Nazis win, and retake control of your damn countries! Christ, you would think we would have learned as a species by now...

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>all the faggot /pol/acks in the thread with 0 arguments just spamming muh jew and CTR memes

How autistic do you have to be to not see what a raging fucking manchild you are, after all this time?

Pitiful bastards

>>34686588
I agree that energy independence is more important than fighting climate change. Our first priority must be to increase domestic production of fossil fuels in order to stop buying Muslim blood oil. Then, we will keep the oil profits in our own countries instead of sending them to a bunch of primitive, violent extremists who care about environmentalism much less than even the West's staunchest conservatives. This is the only way that we can both stop all of this endless war.

With the money saved from ending large-scale warfare, and with the money earned from domestic oil, we all will finally be able to afford to buy these solar panels and wind farms. We could have completely converted to renewables as a species several times over if we hadn't wasted all of this money fighting wars against enemies that we funded by buying Islamofascist blood oil.

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>>34685234
I'm not so sure it's all bad. Trump will make many enemies in his 4 years. We are also seeing many working class people realizing that trump is a meme, and hopefully they will learn that voting for a social democrat like Bernie is the best way for working class people to improve their lives.

I also hope that the democrats will realize that backing such a hated person as Hillary was a mistake. Also hopefully the progressives will learn from this election that they need to radically change their strategy to convince the voters.

I dunno. I hope trump and his conservatives will create such a backlash that a social democrat will have a better chance in 2020,

Good luck america.

t. nordicfag enjoying that his government is paying him to go to a free college

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>tfw no ctr gf

>>34686772
There is no straw man here. Anon made an excellent point about the importance of priorities. Environmentalism is a lot more important than LGBT rights. But their overemphasis of LGBT rights aren't even why the Democrats dun goofed. Their candidate, Killary Klanton, was unelectable because she has a long history of crime and scandal, and because she was under two FBI criminal investigations, an IRS investigation, and a Congressional investigation throughout her campaign.

Klanton has literally no career accomplishments other than attaining the positions that she held. Everything that she has touched in her entire life has turned to shit. Personal enrichment is her credo and obstructing justice is her modus operandi. Klanton doesn't care about the environment. She was the primary proponent of fracking at the industry's outset and the sole reason for its popularity abroad. She accepted bribes from Saudi oil barons. The well-being of Planet Earth was farther from her brain than her husband's dick. Hillary preferred Huma's pussy in her mouth, and Bill preferred his dick in the mouths of Epstein's private islander child slaves.

Your party apparently thought that corruption and personal enrichment at the expense of their constituents was more important than environmentalism. It continues to be their top priority as always. Corruption is an even less important policy objective than LGBT rights, to say nothing of environmentalism. Most people except for career politicians would say that maintaining as much corruption as possible should not be a policy objective at all.

Therefore, poor prioritization, specifically of corruption over environmentalism, was indeed why your efforts at fighting global warming failed. Anon was just wrong about what misplaced priority was responsible for this failure.

>>34686780
Obamacare was a step in the right direction with regards to human rights. It was a step in the wrong direction with regards to costs. Single payer is cheaper due to removing redundant bureaucracy than private insurance or the Romneycare compromise. The Romneycare compromise produces more bureaucracy than the old system. We could have had better healthcare more cheaply. We could have had our cake and eaten it too.

Once the Democrat party is dead and buried at the hands of the Trumpists, progressivism might be able to convince independents about single payer and actually make it happen in future administrations. The other option in the 2016 election was Killary's plan of reducing healthcare costs by destroying civilization in a 2017 nuclear war with Russia sparked by the Syrian no-fly zone. Then, we wouldn't need to spend any money on healthcare because we'd all be dead.

this is why i voted for McAfee

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>>34685234
Same feelings as you

>>34686797
Thank you for doing this. If a voter doesn't want to inform themselves, then they should, as you say, stay home and watch Foghorn Leghorn. It is your right. But it is irresponsible to vote, as most people do, without studying the issues and the candidates. The fact that identity politics tends to produce mass uninformed voting is why it's so dangerous.

>>34693477
Ah, but it's impossible now to avoid the issue. The LGBT communities have been paid lip service by the political left a long time. Better than the right's treatment, but a long ways from good.

Everyone did this. By outright ignoring them or brushing them aside. if they assume, that any attempt to assert an issue's importance over theirs is just the same, can they be blamed? They're just asserting themselves as a voting bloc.

>>34686830
You realize that any nuclear launch command goes through three levels of approval, right? The Secretary of Defense reviews the command, then the joint chiefs of staff. If the command passes both levels, then actually launching the missiles requires two officers at the launch site to open two buttons with each of their keys or keycodes and then press the buttons at the same time. The launch can be vetoed by any of these officers. This system, which is roughly the same in the US, in Russia, and the former Soviet Union, has prevented global thermonuclear war at least twice. Stalin was much less rational than Trump. We'll be fine.

>>34693750
...that is to say, the Soviet Union ordered a nuclear launch against the US twice, either directly from the top or according to a preset condition. The officers who would have launched the missiles refused to do so both times. If the system worked in the royal clusterfuck that was the Soviet Union, it will work for us.

This thread is all FAKE POSTS, I've seen it before, many such cases. Sad!

>>34693804
CNN is planting stories again, this "so called" thread is FAKE NEWS.

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>>34692385
We need to round you retards up and make sure you don't vote ever again.

>>34692385
Why is every argument in favor of Trump at best a reminder of how some other entity is worse for inscrutable intangible reasons? You MAGA dolts can't even find a single great thing about him. Maybe his slogan should've been "Make America Not As Bad As Someone else Would", but reality shows he's doing his best to ruin this country.

>>34689387
>implying discriminating against dissenting media outlets is the only worrying thing Trump is doing
>implying the degradation of the free media is not actually worrying anyway

Trump is claiming that all negative polls are fake news. If that isn't some form of doublethink, I don't know what is. He is literally trying to destroy the credibility of any negative feedback, making a safe-space echo chamber for himself out of Breitbart and Infowars. This is unarguably dangerous for balanced political discussion in the US

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>>34693979
>defends tards who say trump is literally a nazi
>any response to that statement is proof there's no reason to support trump

>>34685904
>how fucked she is as a person, and how corrupt and globalist she is
Yes she is so much more corrupt than the average politician, especially the average Republican! Keep following the Republican propaganda and drinking the kool-aid goy.

>>34694097
t. stein voter

>>34694092
>>defends tards who say trump is literally a nazi
I'd like to see where I defended any such thing

>>34694092
>>any response to that statement is proof there's no reason to support trump

Still waiting to find one except delusional projections of a hypothetical future where he magically makes America great instead of risible.

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>be bored
>bait 4chan
>lol

>>34693636
this is the most idiotic most straw-man Facebook posts I've ever seen. I promise you this guy along with a lot of people only know about trump and his promises/policies through social media and buzzfeed.

>>34694215
I'm tellin mooom
you gonna get it t.o.n.y?
memes end here

>>34694273
Classic argument. Denial settings! 150%
Argument; this is not one.

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>>34685234
Aww, you poor thing.


Your vote never counted in the first place.

>>34685694

>I can predict the future

Just like how you predicted he'd never be President, right? He literally hasn't done anything yet. The travel ban was overturned, he appointed a Supreme Court nominee that still has to be confirmed in a month or two, it's just starting out. What's been his constant struggle so far is liberals throwing a temper tantrum over losing an election, and because Trump dares to try things that do not fit the progressivist agenda.

>>34685635
Hitler. Intelligent. Lol. That's real funny, anon. I hope you're joking. Hitler's strategic errors are legendary for their stupidity.

Trump said a lot of stupid, but not actionable, things, for the free publicity. It's how he did marketing for 40 years, and it always worked. He talks like a 5th grader because that is the average comprehension level. Adults are smart, but they do not care about politics enough to think about it carefully.

You prove intelligence by expressing complicated ideas in language that any 5th grader can understand, not by expressing simple ideas in complex language. This is Richard Feyman's opinion, albeit in different words. It is a direct implication from the following quote:

"The real problem in speech is not precise language. The problem is clear language. The desire is to have the idea clearly communicated to the other person. It is only necessary to be precise when there is some doubt as to the meaning of a phrase, and then the precision should be put in the place where the doubt exists. It is really quite impossible to say anything with absolute precision, unless that thing is so abstracted from the real world as to not represent any real thing." -Feynman

...So, a true academic would know that simple language is preferable, since it gets the point across and you can't communicate ideas fully anyway. I'm not a true academic anymore, so I get to use complicated language.

Here are some other opinions that Trump and the Trumpites share with Feynman:

"The theoretical broadening which comes from having many humanities subjects on the campus is offset by the general dopiness of the people who study these things." -Feynman

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." -Feynman

"There are 1011 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." -Feynman

>>34694311
m8 you cannot be politically competent and also believe that shit. 8 out of his 9 arguments are either completely taken out of context/misinterpreted/opinionated or just flat out false.

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>>34694277
WHO THE HELL IS TONY YOU LITTLE SHIT

>>34690067
You're a fucking idiot. do a little research. China isn't shit. We could fucking eradicate them. Their number don't mean shit. We have the technology. We have advancements no one else has. Imagine the top secret shit no one knows about. If you honestly think any country on the planet could take america then you are just a fucking Cucklord. Go hit up some trap threads on /b/ you fucking pussy.

>>34692269
This is true. There is a command for women to wear veils in the New Testament. It's at 1 Corinthians 11:6. Paul also says that people from the island of Crete are monsters. I'm not sure if female monsters are required to wear veils, but maybe the Cretans ought to do so just in case.

>>34685234
Same! I feel bad seeing my wife cry every night because her boyfriend cant come back from syria :( her daughter wont even look at me when she found out

>>34694442
yer mother anon
yer father anon
tony is all of us and none of us

>>34685691
>implying religion is ever a good thing
>inb4 fedora

>>34693636
1. Repealing Dodd-Frank hurts big banks more than it helps them. As it currently stands, the legislation hurts smaller banks, which enables a monopoly by the bigger banks.

2. It wasn't Clinton having an email server that was ever the problem, it was that it was insecure as all fuck.

3. These things are not equal, what the fuck?

4. "billionaires are bad because they have a lot of money!" spoken like a true cuckold connoisseur. If you need Obamacare for health insurance, you don't deserve health insurance.

5. It's true that Americans are having to pay for it; but 25bil is a drop in the bucket of government income, especially over a period of 4 years, so it's a pretty stupid point to argue.

6. That is a matter of opinion. Meanwhile, Clinton was advocating policies that would have literally caused direct conflict.

7. One day of being president is objectively harder than one day of low-energy campaigning.

8. [citation needed].

9. What have they lied about?

>>34694570

YOU FUCKING TAKE THAT BACK MOTHERFUCKER

IM NOT TONY
I SWEAR TO YOU I'LL NEVER BE TONY
FUCK THAT
FUCK TONY

>>34693931
That is literally fascism. That's what Antifa actually does by violently suppressing free speech. This is ironic, since they claim to be anarchists. Anarchy is supposed to be the opposite of fascism. But then again, anarchists are not known for caring much about logic.

The anarcho-communists want to bring about anarchy violently. The fact that Antifa is anarcho-communist is proven by the fact that their black-clothed riot mobs proudly fly lots of anarcho-communist flags. This is a flag in two diagonal sections, black over red. The anarcho-syndicalists want to enact anarchy peacefully via democracy. Their flag is two diagonal sections, red over black. So I'm just telling you what the Antifa crowd are communicating to the public themselves.

>>34694626
but anon
kek wills it
t.tony

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>>34694586
>"I have zero knowledge about history/ religious scientific endeavors and achievements/ humanity efforts/ effects on society" the post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywTljZW87dI

>>34691539
you realize that most of the corporate shills he put in charge of the country are jews, right?

Soros' paid agitators like OP always stick out like a sore thumb. No, OP, in fact the more the Dems resist Trump the more I'm glad I voted for him.

This sounds like propaganda

>I'm one of you guys, really ;_;
>globalism is good ;_;

Go away please. Not buying it

>>34694827
hey retard do you realize trump appointed people who have actually worked for soros to run the united states government? you must not.

not gunna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousnes we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

>>34693979
Go read the subreddit "the_Donald" for all of the great things about Trump that the MAGA dolts talk about among themselves routinely. The good that needs to be done right now is primarily undoing the evil of previous administrations, for example, exterminating the major terrorist organization, ISIS, that Obama founded. So naturally, the great things about Trump's actions for a while will be undoing the great evils of his predecessors.

Your reasoning could also be applied to police. "You blue lives matter dolts can't even find a single great thing about police. All you do is compare them to criminals. All the police do is stop bad things that other people are doing. They don't do good things themselves."

Remember that Trump's primary domestic role is that of being the nation's top cop. We elected Trump specifically to fight corruption in politics, so naturally we are going to talk about him primarily in terms of undoing or preventing the evil actions of others. That is what police do. It is the legislators that are supposed to bring about major creative shifts in policy through drafting law.

We don't want an activist executive branch. The only thing that the president and the executive branch should be doing is vetoing patently absurd laws but otherwise diligently carrying out existing law according to the orders of the legislature. We want Trump to be boring and ordinary in all respects except for enacting the letter of the law and signing executive orders for enacting the spirit of the law. That is what he is doing. He is great because, so far, he is the first president since JFK not to completely fuck up his job. He was given an absurd emergency clusterfuck situation by the treasonous former president, and he is acting rapidly to fix it according to procedure. He doesn't need to be great in an absolute sense, and we don't really need him to be.

>>34694971
what the fuck are you talking about. yeah he's going to undo the terrible things from previous administrations like environmental protection, financial regulation, economic and military partnerships, public education, etc.
it's great that he's broken into politics as an outsider, but he's not the right kind of outsider, he's the kind that is going to do the bidding of rich jews while distracting commoners with shit like the immigration ban.

>>34694004
You do realize that the MSM enthusiastically supported Clinton despite the fact that she is a career criminal with a long history of blatant lies, scandal, and obstruction of justice, who is as charismatic as a dead fish, who received a scathingly negative audit report from the OIG on her handling of records as SoS, whose person or charity were under two FBI investigations, a congressional investigation, and an IRS investigation all at the same time for the entire duration of her campaign, who was caught red-handed destroying records that were under congressional subpoena as confirmed by Director Comey in congressional testimony, who was confirmed as breaking the espionage act with regards to unauthorized use of a private server to handle classified materials, the freedom of information act with regards to providing citizens with requested emails, the federal records act with regards to providing anyone else in the government with the government's own damn records on her private email server, and obstructing justice by colluding with the entire justice department to cover her crimes, as confirmed by Director Comey's congressional testimony about Lynch's secret meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac, his incompetent handling of the Clinton FBI investigations, and his incompetent reading of a nonexistent intent requirement into the espionage act, all apparently under duress by treasonous orders of the president, right? Yes, that sentence is grammatically correct. None of the MSM's coverage of Clinton failed to be deceptive propaganda, much less proper truth-to-power journalism. So, President Trump's claim of constant, blatant deception in the MSM is backed up by volumes of public records.

There is nothing fascist about decrying blatant fascist propaganda. The MSM is mostly fascist propaganda. Calling CNN fascist propaganda IS balanced political discussion. Do you not understand what the fallacy of the mean is? There is a wolf, so we are crying wolf.

>>34695305
nobody in this thread was defending clinton, but I guess it's a knee-jerk reaction for you to regurgitate what you've been told about her in your alt-right circlejerks. and again, I see no reason to defend her, but you can make trump look like a monster just as easily.

I didn't actually want Trump to win. I just wanted Hillary to lose. Trump was the only option.

>>34694097
False equivalence fallacy. The two political parties are not necessarily the same. Hasty generalization fallacy. Not all politicians are necessarily corrupt or equally corrupt. Straw man fallacy. Claims of unusual corruption with regards to Clinton are backed up by reams of public records, not unsubstantiated "kool-aid." Trump does not have anywhere near as much scandal muddying his suit as Clinton does.

Trump is responsible for roughly zero avoidable war deaths from conflict and famine, for example, as opposed to Clinton's millions of avoidable war deaths from the overthrow of Gaddafi's government in Libya that she was the primary advocate for as SoS, which resulted in the destabilization of much of North Africa. Trump could have gone into politics and become a war hawk if he had wanted to, but he chose to become a peaceful real estate mogul instead. He is evidently charismatic enough to succeed in politics. So, since it was possible for Trump to have caused millions of deaths like Clinton did, this is a relevant difference. If all politicians were equally corrupt, then they would all have an equal amount of blood on their hands. There are a few thousand major politicians with significant influence on wars in the world, and a few billion people on Earth. If all of these politicians were equally corrupt by body count, then humanity would no longer exist. Humanity still exists, so it appears that not all politicians are as corrupt as Clinton.

i unironically voted for trump because i thought he'd make a worse president and i want this country to crumble sooner

>>34694195
Whether or not you call a projection delusional is not the sole predicate of whether or not that projection is actually delusional. You might be wrong, so we are not necessarily required to meet your delusionality standards in order to have made a reasonable projection.

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>>34685234
join a religion, become part of a church, you can't expect everything to go your

>>34694450
China is already a major player in the world economy. They do have a larger population to ours. They do have similar land area and abundance of natural resources to the United States. Our goal as a country is for all people everywhere to have prosperity and liberty like we do, even though it is not our responsibility to fund all of this prosperity or forcibly modernize all of their governments ourselves. If we are not hypocritical and we are successful as a role model and limited benefactor to these countries, then China and India will surpass us as dominant world powers. Since actual liberty and widespread belief in secular humanism are necessary to produce a similar GDP per capita to ours, this will presumably not be a problem.

>>34695506
I honestly respect these Trump voters far more than those that endlessly prattle on about what a great guy he is an incessantly suck his withered old cock.

At least you're not delusional.

>>34694586
Authoritarianism (as the source of truth) is what produces barbarity, not religion per se. Non-authoritarian religions such as Buddhism are not particularly harmful like Islam is. Religion has also been directly useful for human progress in the past despite its drawbacks.

The Soviet Union and Communist China were very harmful despite having atheistic societies. This was not due to atheism per se, but due to the cult of personality, or worship of a particular human, that surrounded Stalin and Mao. Underground Russian Orthodox Christianity was very helpful for destroying the Soviet Union because it inoculated its practitioners against the more harmful and authoritarian ideology of Stalin-worship. Christian influence has been similarly helpful for the underground opposition to the PRC. Kurdistani Christians and underground Christian sects are very helpful in the opposition against the comparatively barbaric religion of Islam.

Religions are helpful when they replace a more authoritarian ideology with a less authoritarian ideology. Religious conversion provides a means for cultures to progress from complete barbarity to liberty and secular humanism. State-opposed religions tend to insulate their followers against government propaganda in brutal authoritarian regimes, though sometimes brutal authoritarian secular regimes are necessary to oppress more brutal theocratic religions as is the case in much of the Islamic Middle East. This is another case of a problematic but less authoritarian ideology replacing a more authoritarian ideology, except that the secular, say, Hussein-worship or Gaddafi-worship ideology is the better one in this case. Generally, we should try to help different cultures to modernize themselves. For particularly backwards areas, it is impossible to do this via instant mass conversion to atheism or agnosticism. So, for now, some religions appear to be necessary and helpful, and therefore, good.

You fell for the globalost lies. I have taken the Alex Jones pill I am going balls deep into this fellas.

The man is admitting to signing execute orders that he hasn't read and doesn't understand. He is insinuating there terrorist attacks are taking place and being covered up by some kind of conspiracy.

Is there anyone left that still hasn't realized that this guy's an incompetent clown?

>>34686102
Meanwhile, refugees are raping Swedes like there's no tomorrow and all the great "socialist powerhouses" are taking a hard right, afraid that Trump won't protect them from Russia anymore

>>34692628
What diseases lmao

Open boarders with Ellis Island didn't hurt anyone

>>34686315
1. Republicans have ideas to replace it, if you spend a little time looking, Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, etc have put out health care bills and propositions, so yes I am happy that the overpriced, unconstitutional "you can keep your doctor" debacle is over

2. The climate is changing, sure. How much is due to human activity, up for debate. Whether it's feasible to do anything about it or not? Probably not, unless China and India stop shitting up the atmosphere.

>>34696179

Ellis Island didn't hurt anyone because it was all white European immigrants going through there, not hoards of beaners and Somalians and Muslims.

>>34695807
Trump is also a good way to have a progressive backlash like we had in order to get FDR. No more neolib bullshit

>>34696221
wew so all this sanitation shit about diseases is just a guise for perceived dirtiness of other races

so you're just a dumb racist, got it

>>34696217

it's not up for debate, there's consensus among the scientific community. it is feasible to do something about it because using alternative energy sources is feasible and it does something about kt

>>34696217
Tell us more about those plans to replace it. Show me the draft bill. Let me see for myself what they plan to do.

China and India are both demonstrating that they are pretty committed to reducing their pollution emission. The United States is the second greatest producer of carbon. It's us who's commitment is now in doubt.

>>34696263

Libfags don't want to live around dirty coloreds either, there's a reason they all joked about moving to Canada instead of Mexico when Trump won.

>>34685333
nice trimps

>>34691000
kek blessed trimps have speaked

>>34696311

nice dumbs

>>34696179
>The world is the same today as it was in the 1800s
kill urself

>>34694608
Actually, the email server broke the espionage act and the federal records act regardless of its security or lack thereof. These laws are there to prevent the risk itself of insecure storage of confidential records. This risk would have been present, from the government's perspective, whether or not Clinton had managed her server properly. The law in this matter does not say "handle government records in this specific way *unless you know what you're doing*."

Procedures and the following thereof are the only way for the government to maintain accurate and secure records on an ongoing basis. Failing to make an example of Clinton will make it less likely that government employees will follow laws and procedures in the future, so her actions have caused real harm even if they did not result in a loss of records or enemy interception of records, which they did. This justifies enforcing such laws consistently even if no directly identifiable harm resulted from a particular illegal act.

7 is quite relevant. If you can't even stand up and make a speech in the rain for more than 10 minutes, you have no business holding a critical government position. Clinton can open the mail. Oh wait, she routinely breaks various federal records laws. Clinton doesn't get to open the mail. She can sit silent and motionless, with careful supervision in case she sneaks a flask of liquor in on the job, as an extra in the background of government training videos. People instinctively hate her when she talks or expresses emotion, so she doesn't get to have any lines or make any sounds or facial expressions. Maybe she can be permitted to nod if she is provided with directions on when to do so in the script. Her memory is terrible, so this will require a teleprompter. And she doesn't get to stand because she'll fall over after one and a half takes.

>>34696293
yeah the only difference between mexico and canada is that mexico is full of mexicans

>>34696501

I don't have anything relevant to the conversation to say, but I want to comment that this is a funny post

>>34694906
Trump needs "goblin guides," as Alex Jones puts it, in his staff who have detailed insider knowledge about the globalists' operations. The swamp is treacherous and unforgiving of mistakes, and the globalist goblins know the swamp best. Turning enemy officers and using their knowledge against the enemy is a standard tactic. There are good people in every corrupt organization that attempt to fight or change it from the inside. Even many corrupt people have no particular loyalty to their old masters and will gladly betray them for money. So, Trump has to hire at least some globalist lackeys, and the presence of said lackeys does not necessarily prove the existence of a secret globalist agenda.

For that matter, the lack of globalist lackeys does not necessarily prove the absence of a secret globalist agenda, so your loyalty test doesn't work one way or the other.

>>34696580

is this the real opinion of a real person capable of rational thought?

>>34696580
>>"Goblin guides" as Alex Jones puts it.

I'm starting feel sorry for anyone legitimate fans of this guy. A joke becomes uncomfortable when it gets totally absurd and yet some people still take it seriously and don't realize that they're being laughed at.

no. you're a massive faggot, no wonder you're stuck here whining. or you're a shill, so you're even more of a fag

>>34696664

no you're a faggot. it's no wonder you're still posting here

Wew now the Crew is shilling on /r9k/

The second thing we call you to, is to stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you.

(a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.

We call you to all of this that you may be freed from that which you have become caught up in; that you may be freed from the deceptive lies that you are a great nation, that your leaders spread amongst you to conceal from you the despicable state to which you have reached.

(b) It is saddening to tell you that you are the worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind:

(i) You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator. You flee from the embarrassing question posed to you: How is it possible for Allah the Almighty to create His creation, grant them power over all the creatures and land, grant them all the amenities of life, and then deny them that which they are most in need of: knowledge of the laws which govern their lives?

(ii) You are the nation that permits Usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy and investments on Usury. As a result of this, in all its different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense; precisely what Benjamin Franklin warned you against.

(iii) You are a nation that permits the production, trading and usage of intoxicants. You also permit drugs, and only forbid the trade of them, even though your nation is the largest consumer of them.

>wanted Fiorina or Kasich
>got handed a choice between Hairy Clitoris and Drumpf
At least Trump is just retarded, Hillary is legitimately evil

>>34685313

>china
>clean energy

AHAHAHHSAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAH

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>>34696809
You are a nation that permits acts of immorality, and you consider them to be pillars of personal freedom. You have continued to sink down this abyss from level to level until incest has spread amongst you, in the face of which neither your sense of honour nor your laws object.

Who can forget your President Clinton's immoral acts committed in the official Oval office? After that you did not even bring him to account, other than that he 'made a mistake', after which everything passed with no punishment. Is there a worse kind of event for which your name will go down in history and remembered by nations?


(v) You are a nation that permits gambling in its all forms. The companies practice this as well, resulting in the investments becoming active and the criminals becoming rich.

(vi) You are a nation that exploits women like consumer products or advertising tools calling upon customers to purchase them. You use women to serve passengers, visitors, and strangers to increase your profit margins. You then rant that you support the liberation of women.

(vii) You are a nation that practices the trade of sex in all its forms, directly and indirectly. Giant corporations and establishments are established on this, under the name of art, entertainment, tourism and freedom, and other deceptive names you attribute to it.

(viii) And because of all this, you have been described in history as a nation that spreads diseases that were unknown to man in the past. Go ahead and boast to the nations of man, that you brought them AIDS as a Satanic American Invention.

You have destroyed nature with your industrial waste and gases more than any other nation in history. Despite this, you refuse to sign the Kyoto agreement so that you can secure the profit of your greedy companies and*industries.

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>>34696835
Your law is the law of the rich and wealthy people, who hold sway in their political parties, and fund their election campaigns with their gifts. Behind them stand the Jews, who control your policies, media and economy.

(xi) That which you are singled out for in the history of mankind, is that you have used your force to destroy mankind more than any other nation in history; not to defend principles and values, but to hasten to secure your interests and profits. You who dropped a nuclear bomb on Japan, even though Japan was ready to negotiate an end to the war. How many acts of oppression, tyranny and injustice have you carried out, O callers to freedom?

(xii) Let us not forget one of your major characteristics: your duality in both manners and values; your hypocrisy in manners and principles. All*manners, principles and values have two scales: one for you and one for the others.

(a)The freedom and democracy that you call to is for yourselves and for white race only; as for the rest of the world, you impose upon them your monstrous, destructive policies and Governments, which you call the 'American friends'. Yet you prevent them from establishing democracies. When the Islamic party in Algeria wanted to practice democracy and they won the election, you unleashed your agents in the Algerian army onto them, and to attack them with tanks and guns, to imprison them and torture them - a new lesson from the 'American book of democracy'!!!

(b)Your policy on prohibiting and forcibly removing weapons of mass destruction to ensure world peace: it only applies to those countries which you do not permit to possess such weapons. As for the countries you consent to, such as Israel, then they are allowed to keep and use such weapons to defend their security. Anyone else who you suspect might be manufacturing or keeping these kinds of weapons, you call them criminals and you take military action against them.

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>>34686315

>20 million who wont have insurance

>implying medicaid doesn't exist

>>34696821

define evil you dumb faggot

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>>34696853
You are the last ones to respect the resolutions and policies of International Law, yet you claim to want to selectively punish anyone else who does the same. Israel has for more than 50 years been pushing UN resolutions and rules against the wall with the full support of America.

(d)As for the war criminals which you censure and form criminal courts for - you shamelessly ask that your own are granted immunity!! However, history will not forget the war crimes that you committed against the Muslims and the rest of the world; those you have killed in Japan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Lebanon and Iraq will remain a shame that you will never be able to escape. It will suffice to remind you of your latest war crimes in Afghanistan, in which densely populated innocent civilian villages were destroyed, bombs were dropped on mosques causing the roof of the mosque to come crashing down on the heads of the Muslims praying inside. You are the ones who broke the agreement with the Mujahideen when they left Qunduz, bombing them in Jangi fort, and killing more than 1,000 of your prisoners through suffocation and thirst. Allah alone knows how many people have died by torture at the hands of you and your agents. Your planes remain in the Afghan skies, looking for anyone remotely suspicious.

(e)You have claimed to be the vanguards of Human Rights, and your Ministry of Foreign affairs issues annual reports containing statistics of those countries that violate any Human Rights. However, all these things vanished when the Mujahideen hit you, and you then implemented the methods of the same documented governments that you used to curse. In America, you captured thousands the Muslims and Arabs, took them into custody with neither reason, court trial, nor even disclosing their names. You issued newer, harsher laws.

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>>34696867
What happens in Guatanamo is a historical embarrassment to America and its values, and it screams into your faces - you hypocrites, "What is the value of your signature on any agreement or treaty?"

(3) What we call you to thirdly is to take an honest stance with yourselves - and I doubt you will do so - to discover that you are a nation without principles or manners, and that the values and principles to you are something which you merely demand from others, not that which you yourself must adhere to.

(4) We also advise you to stop supporting Israel, and to end your support of the Indians in Kashmir, the Russians against the Chechens and to also cease supporting the Manila Government against the Muslims in Southern Philippines.

(5) We also advise you to pack your luggage and get out of our lands. We desire for your goodness, guidance, and righteousness, so do not force us to send you back as cargo in coffins.

(6) Sixthly, we call upon you to end your support of the corrupt leaders in our countries. Do not interfere in our politics and method of education. Leave us alone, or else expect us in New York and Washington.
(7) We also call you to deal with us and interact with us on the basis of mutual interests and benefits, rather than the policies of sub dual, theft and occupation, and not to continue your policy of supporting the Jews because this will result in more disasters for you.

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>>34696887
If you fail to respond to all these conditions, then prepare for fight with the Islamic Nation. The Nation of Monotheism, that puts complete trust on Allah and fears none other than Him. The Nation which is addressed by its Quran with the words: "Do you fear them? Allah has more right that you should fear Him if you are believers. Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of believing people. And remove the anger of their (believers') hearts. Allah accepts the repentance of whom He wills. Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise." [Quran9:13-1]

The Nation of honour and respect:

"But honour, power and glory belong to Allah, and to His Messenger (Muhammad- peace be upon him) and to the believers." [Quran 63:8]

"So do not become weak (against your enemy), nor be sad, and you will be*superior ( in victory )if you are indeed (true) believers" [Quran 3:139]

The Nation of Martyrdom; the Nation that desires death more than you desire life:

"Think not of those who are killed in the way of Allah as dead. Nay, they are alive with their Lord, and they are being provided for. They rejoice in what Allah has bestowed upon them from His bounty and rejoice for the sake of those who have not yet joined them, but are left behind (not yet martyred) that on them no fear shall come, nor shall they grieve. They rejoice in a grace and a bounty from Allah, and that Allah will not waste the reward of the believers." [Quran 3:169-171]

The Nation of victory and success that Allah has promised:

"It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad peace be upon him) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it victorious over all other religions even though the Polytheists hate it." [Quran 61:9]

"Allah has decreed that 'Verily it is I and My Messengers who shall be victorious.' Verily Allah is All-Powerful, All-Mighty." [Quran 58:21]

>>34696749
/r9k/ is full of moochers, what did you expect?

>>34696821
Trump just has severe ADHD, but Steve Bannon is the guy behind him. In any case, they're both sociopaths.

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>>34696899
The Islamic Nation that was able to dismiss and destroy the previous evil Empires like yourself; the Nation that rejects your attacks, wishes to remove your evils, and is prepared to fight you. You are well aware that the Islamic Nation, from the very core of its soul, despises your haughtiness and arrogance.

If the Americans refuse to listen to our advice and the goodness, guidance and righteousness that we call them to, then be aware that you will lose this Crusade Bush began, just like the other previous Crusades in which you were humiliated by the hands of the Mujahideen, fleeing to your home in great silence and disgrace. If the Americans do not respond, then their fate will be that of the Soviets who fled from Afghanistan to deal with their military defeat, political breakup, ideological downfall, and economic bankruptcy.

This is our message to the Americans, as an answer to theirs. Do they now know why we fight them and over which form of ignorance, by the permission of Allah, we shall be victorious?

Was he right guys?

>>34695201
All previous administrations have had immigration and visa bans, against more countries than this particular set, and for longer. Nobody complained then. All countries, including ours, do this routinely. Banning particular countries is our sovereign right, not a crime against humanity. A wall is a reasonable and relatively cheap defense against the violent cartels. We are building it to defend against the common enemy of Mexico and the US, not to take an aggressive stance against our ally, Mexico.

Trump is reinstating Glass-Steagal and auditing the Fed. Trump is making environmental regulations simpler to reduce cost of compliance and to improve rates of compliance. Auditing costs money. We have to focus on hammering home the most important regulations and we need to avoid wasting money on irrelevant matters. Bureaucracy cannot fix everything; the regulatory agencies have to learn to prioritize.

We do not have military partnerships. We have one-sided arrangements where the United States military does everything and our allies provide token assistance. Japan can operate their own damned Okinawa base. Same goes for our bases in Europe. If an actual war happens against our major allies, they have a responsibility to at least handle the initial defense themselves while their allies send assistance. So we do not need to operate military bases all over the world ourselves in order to meet our mutual defense obligations.

States can handle public education themselves, and did exactly that for many years. Adding a layer of bureaucracy above them did not provide any significant benefit over the previous system. Vouchers are a perfectly reasonable idea that will provide parents with consumer choice. The resulting competition will will force failing schools to shape up or die, as is good and proper in a capitalist society. If parents in one state are threatened by substandard educational policy, then they can fix this problem themselves through civic activism.

>>34695450
If you actually read the comment I am responding to here and also my response, you will note that the other person was arguing against Trump's criticism of the mainstream news media as being 1984-style "doublethink" propaganda. My response was to demonstrate that Trump's criticisms are valid by pointing out how ridiculous it is that the MSM ever treated Clinton as anything more positive than a complete fraud, a bloodthirsty warmonger, and a laughingstock. She was under not one, but two, criminal FBI investigations at the start of her campaign for Christ's sake. This is entirely unprecedented for any major democracy since the American Revolution! The fact that the MSM was fine with Clinton, who is barely a human being and then only in the most technical sense, and the fact that they demonized Trump and his supporters despite the fact that the famous orange-faced, somewhat unethical, and ruthless business mogul is a harmless kitten in comparison to Clinton, proves that they are a pack of fascist liars.

In short, my criticism of Clinton here is not a knee-jerk reaction, but the very core of any serious argument in these times to demonstrate the absurd level of deception and bias in the MSM.

>>34695489
Absurdly verbose anon here again. Same here. I preferred Sanders. Clinton is Hitler, but less compassionate and more mentally unstable. She has also been complicit in more deaths from war and famine than Hitler to date. She absolutely had to lose no matter what.

>>34696133
Terrorist attacks are taking place, mostly in Europe. Those attacks are being covered up by a massive conspiracy. Sweden is the rape capital of the world. There are many areas in Germany where the law dare not tread and where Sharia law is enforced by armed gangs. The Islamofascists sell drugs and people, and set up areas of autonomous rule by force. They are much like the Mexican cartels in this respect. We have seen a modern and peaceful people brought low by drug cartels in this manner. The same thing is happening to Europe. The Mexican press covers up the cartel activities, too.

A wolf is eating the townsfolk. So we are crying wolf. That is what we are supposed to do according to the moral of the children's story.

>>34685234
I didn't vote, but I do regret spending as much time thinking about the elections as I did. In the end, Bernie probably shoulda won and Hillary should have been executed but oh well. Hopefully he'll rise in 4 years.

>>34696139
They should be asking Russia to protect them from their EU masters and their mandatory Islamofascist rapefugee drug cartel invaders.

>>34696179
The same diseases that Ellis Island protected us from. People still get polio, leprosy, and bubonic plague in the third world. Many of these diseases are developing tolerance to antibacterial drugs. All nations have to have strong customs enforcement so that these diseases do not spread back to where they have already been eradicated. Malaria is not a problem in Florida, for example, but we can make it a problem if we want to at any time. Then Disney World would have to be relocated. And that would be terrible. We can't end all infectious disease everywhere, but most countries can be spared most infectious diseases if we all quit fucking up basic quarantine procedures.

>>34696237
The possibility of progressive backlash later is a big part of why he attracted so many pissed-off Sanders voters. Clinton's career must die for her sins, and we'll live until we get around to replacing Trump later. So don't knock the backlash too much. Trump would not have won without the Sandersites.