so i met this girl at a concert not long ago and we started talking and we ended up talking about politics and shes a hardcore anti-fascist and believes that anarchy would lead to a more collectivist and peaceful society.
>i tried explaining to her that anarchy would just lead to violence and borderline tribalism
she just fell back on the "anarchy has never been tried argument"
>brought up Makhnovia, somalia, and spain.
she said just because it hasn't worked in the past doesn't meant it won't work in a more stable and civilised society
>brought up the riots going on and all the violent crimes and looting being committed
she said they aren't real anarchist and are planted there by "big government" to give anarchist a bad reputation
at this point i just changed the subject knowing i wasn't going to get anywhere
so what do i do, should i keep going out with this chick or find somebody else
>>34638626
Make her an AnCap. They're okay.
>tfw no AnCap gf
she's says she's an anarcist because it makes her seem interesting, it's an identity she can claim
don't try and take it from her, just let her believe whatever she wants. it will only end in her getting upset with you or cutting contact
>>34638727
oorgorghirironal
>>34638727
anarchy in any form is pure autism
>>34638754
are you sure. i don't know i feel like her views can be changed
its weird i asked her what she thought about feminism and she said she hates modern day feminist and most women in general.
she said feminist are just trying to take advantage of a system that already caters to them and will end up doing more harm to women than good
>>34638867
>anarchy in any form is pure autism
>>34638922
anarchy will never work.
no matter how it is tried people will always begin to develop and form a social hierarchy leading to a state of some form
>>34638626
>anarchist
>collectivist
She sounds like any other retarded anarchist
>>34638867
>she hates most women in general
Red flag boiiii.
>>34639032
how so? i thought it was normal for women to hate eachother
>>34638999
>not understanding the basis that morals sometimes supersede "pragmatic" views
>>34638626
Give her a taste of real anarchy and rape her
>>34639187
>not understanding that morals must be enforced by a power structure
>>34639236
this
>>34639326
>implying I ever even said I was an anarchist
Nah, I just acknowledge AnCap isn't complete shit.
>>34639326
They shouldn't enforce anything unless you're going against the unaware masses. Have you ever read any anarchist literature or do you always meme yourself out of making an argument?
>>34639565
>They shouldn't enforce anything
yeah, those crackheads walking down the street with their stolen loli sex slaves aren't doing anything wrong
they're just exercising their right to own property, nothing wrong here
those violent refugees coming from countries that have been trying to destroy our race, countries, and way of life for several thousand years aren't doing anything wrong
the NAP and the invisible guiding hand will protect us
>>34638626
>antifa
>attack everyone
What did they mean by this?
Unless she is specifically ancap she is no good my friend. Please trust me.
>>34638867
>hates modern feminism
Oooh, she's a keeper.
What does Antifa mean and why is it used as a derogatory term?
>>34640867
Antifa means "anti-fascist"
they are hated because of the hwndu protests, faggot rallies, and general retardation that come from people who identify as antifa
>>34638626
lol I consider myself a light leftie but anarchists are just stupid fucking cunts(any extremists really)
>hurr durr just because it hasn't worked in the past doesn't mean it isn't gonna work now
hell yeah then let's all jump on the communist train together with grandpa Marx and daddy Lenin and ride along to the sunset. The reason these systems failed is because they count on people not being power hungry and actually being contempt with what they have for once. Cool in theory, fucking awful in practice.
>>34638999
do you think most anarchists want to live in the jungle alone or something? we don't care about social heirarchies, what we want to get rid of is an overarching central authority. i'll settle for minarchism.
>>34639766
>slaves
>violent refugees
>the NAP
Yeah I don't think you know what you're talking about. Like the anon said; read some anarchist literature.
another anarchist masterrace reporting in
you are a massive faggot op
pic relevant to thread
>>34639565
>against the unaware masses
So lemme get this straight, the """""""armed masses"""""" would protect the anarcowhatever dream from posible subversions?
Hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm
>>34641023
>The reason these systems failed is because they count on people not being power hungry and actually being contempt with what they have for once. Cool in theory, fucking awful in practice.
This right here, people aren't good enough for communism to work
>>34638626
>shes a hardcore anti-fascist and believes that anarchy would lead to a more collectivist and peaceful society.
Collectivism doesn't work without the state and it's guns because the majority of humans don't want to give up their current lives to farm turnips and live in hovels.
>>i tried explaining to her that anarchy would just lead to violence and borderline tribalism
>she just fell back on the "anarchy has never been tried argument"
>>brought up Makhnovia, somalia, and spain.
>she said just because it hasn't worked in the past doesn't meant it won't work in a more stable and civilised society
What she means is
>Anarchy would only work in white or Asian societies where most people intuitively know not to rape and murder their neighbors
Too bad that also means they're too smart to be collectivist anarchists
>>brought up the riots going on and all the violent crimes and looting being committed
>she said they aren't real anarchist and are planted there by "big government" to give anarchist a bad reputation
At this point she deserves to be struck until stupid shit stops coming from her mouth.
>>34638626
>spain
Well, to be fair that was going well if the other states didn't gang up and supported the gov
>>34641629
that really isn't why communism fails. if anything, it's people's self righteous sense of morality and worship of the "greater good" which motivates communist atrocities. sure, extreme greed is bad, but extreme altruism can be far worse