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>No one can stop you from dreaming!

>except your depression
>and your low self esteem
>and your social incompetence
>and your lack of talent
>and the general cruel nature of the world
>and your weak constitution that makes you terrified of rejection from anyone
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ENTP master race just passing by
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You are dreaming, Anon. Except it's not a dream, it's a nightmare.
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>>34597919
I think you meant INTJ
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Pretty much every one of those is still you keeping yourself from doing shit though.
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>>34597904
Sorry for being rude but your post gave me a sensible chuckle
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>>34597975
ah, so close to intj
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>tfw infp

fuck i always knew i had no talent
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>>34597970
Exactly. I don't blame my problems on anyone but myself; I'm my own worst enemy.
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>>34597904
>tfw INTJ logical minarchist who isn't won over by petty emotional arguments
Can all people w/ an F in their personality type just lock themselves up or something? Their hotheaded irrationality serves only to hamper efficiency and progress in everything they touch.
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>>34598005
INTPs are the equivalent of a disgusting atheist redditor who masturbates to his own posts deconstructing the bible

I may be a suicidal, barely-functioning husk as an INFP, but at least I don't have a head the size of Jupiter

sorry m8
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>>34597904
iktf bro. Are you a writerfag too by any chance?
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>tfw failed INFJ
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>>34597904
ISTP-A master race reporting in
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>>34598191
I'm INFP and I am a writerfag
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>>34598191
>>34598375
INFP musician here, how ya holdin' up?
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>INFP
>only have the self-hate, low self-confidence, disorganization, bitchiness, and giving up easily
>no creativity

just fuck my shit up famicon
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>>34597904
>>34598547
literally me

I just want to be a NEET and then be killed young
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Glorious INTJ Ubermensch signing in
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>>34598121
I know that feel anon. I too am them same. INFP crap race reporting in.
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>>34598447
Not the guy you're referring too. But nice to see other INFP musicians.
Playing guitar/bass/piano always helped me relieve my feels. I'm able to come up with some creative original stuff but am unable to complete the song. Just good a making individual chorus or verses but can't transition one into the other well.
But if you found a group of like-minded musicians that fit you're musical chemistry they can help fill in the gaps sometimes and add their own spice.
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I know im a shit INFP race, with me being my worst enemy.
I see lots of anons assuming we can't be creative. I found that to subjective to each individual case.
They all have their benefits and downfalls, some more than others.
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>>34597904
Is social incompetence a regular INFP thing?

I fucking suck at talking to people, I sometimes think that something is really funny so I tell someone and then I get ghosted or they start ridiculing me.
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>tfw infp aspiring game designer
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>>34599337
I think INFPs are capable of becoming socially competent, it's just the lifestyles we're naturally drawn to don't call for it.
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>>34599437
>it's just the lifestyles we're naturally drawn to don't call for it.
What are those?

I'm not 100% sure how other INFPs live.
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>>34599337
It differs from person to person even with having INFP.
I'm good with small talk and with certain people having a good conversation. I'm able to make people laugh with odd humor, not always. But when it does work, they really get a kick out of it. Its good to learn how to be humble and be self humiliating at times. Acknowledging your weaknesses and making a light joke about it.
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>>34599662
I used to get bullied but once I learned how to joke about myself. It took away the humor the bullies had and gave it to me. Than the bullying stopped for the most part. If it did happen I would either laugh with them to through them off or just not give a fuck about it. When you don't give a fuck, they tend to back off.
I kinda became somewhat of a bully after I was bullied. But as I got older I became less aggressive with it and I would just joke to my friends about others.
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INTJs, explain how introverted intuition works
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>>34599454
Hermit-like, focusing on individual pursuits for the purpose of enjoyment and to gain a better understanding of ourselves, as opposed to gaining things from others in return (praise, recognition, money).

Of course, I can't speak for everyone.
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>Fevently make fun of INTJ master race posters over the years because their false sense of superiority is sometimes overbearing
>never had the desire to actually take the test until a year or so ago
>get INTJ the first time, couldn't comprehend
>take the test two more times on different websites, both come up as INTJ
>mfw
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>>34599662
I'm like this as well. I'm not really good at banter, and most people wouldn't call me quick-witted or particularly clever, but the jokes I am able to come up with will make people laugh the hardest. My humor is also tied with self-deprication (in a light-hearted way).
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>>34599929
time to start shopping for fedoras and trenchcoats
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>>34599929
ONE OF US... ONE OF US... ONE OF US...


Jks, INTP is the most robot tier
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>>34597975
where ma intp bois at
i have a feeling like intp is the type most inclined to be a cyborg
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>>34599812
Best I can describe is in social situations where you just read emotions easily (which is kind of silly since we're introverted). Emotions may not make sense to us in the way they do for others but we can spot them pretty damn accurately.

>>34597904
Threadly reminder that INTJ male and INFP female is comfy af.
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>>34600520

I always get INTP at these tests but i find myself having these "blurry visions" of things which sound very Ni like. For example, if someone does or says something that i find insincere my brain plays a "simulation" of what that person might have been thinking or feeling, and what lead up to them doing or saying whatever it is that they did or said. Idk if this is an INTJ thing but as far as i know its not an INTP thing. Am i actually INTJ?
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>>34601386
Nah man, I think you might just be a schizo.

Sounds cool though.
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infp me
infp me in one pic
pic is related
fin.
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>>34600022
intp cyborg reporting
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>>34601472

Idk if you're the guy i replied to but thats supposed to be a default thing of INTJs. I probably didnt word it the right way but its not as crazy as it sounds and my predictions usually turn out to be true.
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>>34597904
>>34598191
>>34598547

Sure is plebbit in here. KYS
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>enfj
>the literal main character
The true master race.
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>You're just an autist
>Not even a smart one
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>>34597904
DELET
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Pic related, its life as an infp.
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>>34601635
I am.

I said it's hard to explain because it's instantaneous. You just know. It's like any other thought. How do you explaining thinking a thought? It just happens based on whatever is happening. Neuroscience aside, it's hard to go in depth about what that actually feels like.

If it seems to be coming out of nowhere I'll try to justify there emotions, but it's not like some tv show where I notice some miniscule details and suddenly see flash backs of other events.
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In always get ENTP which makes sense because I'm a dick.
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>>34598447
>>34598823
I play trombone. Thoughts?
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>>34598168
b-but im intp-kin and catlick :(
used to be intj during uni
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>>34601808

>If it seems to be coming out of nowhere I'll try to justify there emotions, but it's not like some tv show where I notice some miniscule details and suddenly see flash backs of other events

Thats not what i ment either. Like i said i probably worded it wrongly
The best way i can explain it using an analogy i read somewhere on this subject. Its like being able to see the figurative road someone walked to get to a particular action. The road has twists and bends and is only "illuminated" at certain parts. So you can see some small parts of the road, and your brain will try to fill in the rest, and it will give you a blurry, but somewhat accurate picture of the road. This part happens instantly. Then anywhere from a few seconds to a few hours later the image will pop up again in my head and it will become much clearer, leading to a "greater understanding".

Try not to take words like "image" too seriously, its more like a blurry, vague mental image rather then a clear picture.

I just noticed myself doing this a lot and wondered if its a Ni thing or something else altogether.
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I got INTP-T, what do?
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>>34597904
The most accurate description I have ever read about my personality
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>>34600022
>>34597975
INTP silicon based life-form signing in.
Please tell me if you find my feels anywhere... i don't think i can remember... the last time i saw them. Weird hum ?
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is there any way to... become a different personality type?
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Apparently ISTP. Do people really buy into this stuff?
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>>34603445
If you took the same test every year or every couple months over a long period of time, you would undoubtedly find your personality type changes, switches back, and changes again. These tests are not set in stone.
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>>34601695

That's the one I get when I answer the quiz as my perfect self

my real self is an infp
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>>34601695
So why the fuck youre on /r9k?
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>>34597975
INTP androids dream of electric sheep, do they not? I think that INFP and INTP are surprisingly similar. One likes fantasy, the other likes science fiction. Technically, both genres are fantasy. INTP's believe that we live in a magical world, and understand that magic in our world is called "electricity." We love this magical world of ours, and we seek to be magicians.
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>>34603609
...Or, I'm an INFP. Well, shut my mouth. I'm a particularly emotional computer programmer who wants to write fun and aesthetically-pleasing video games. So I guess a 54-46 result on feeling vs. thinking makes sense then. My life doesn't make any damn sense.

Results:
63% Introverted
81% Intuitive
54% Feeling
89% Prospecting
70% Turbulent

I like their change in wording from "perceiving" to "prospecting," which I think better expresses the actual meaning in the MBTI framework.
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>>34603866
>63% Introverted
might as well have been extraverted
REEEEE
i'm actually jealous of you

also
>turbulent
can someone explain wtf that is about?
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>>34602516
It's something else altogether. I don't have anything like that.
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>>34603609
Hell, I've been called a mediator routinely IRL, though I tend to mediate conflicts legalistically more so than emotionally. I care about law and fair negotiations, and think that most conflicts would be resolved amicably if the complainants just fully understood each others' relative knowledge, claims, feelings, and situations. I tend to be a wet blanket on both good and bad excitement.
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>>34603948
Basically, do you tend towards high self-esteem, or do you tend towards low self-esteem? Someone with a turbulent personality, if I understand their addition to the MBTI correctly, can have healthy self-esteem, but it takes more work for them. Alternately, overconfidence might be a problem for assertive people.
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>>34603948
Um, as for 63% introverted, I'm a naturally introverted and awkward person, but I put a damn fucking lot of practice over many years into social skills and communication. I have embarrassed myself so many times, it's painful to think about it.
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>>34604039
now it makes perfect sense that I'm turbulent
I have low self esteem
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>>34603866
You sound INFP, anon.
I see the world as magical, but am still relatively grounded in some logic. Also 54% feeling here.

Nice writing, by the way <3
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I'm INFP with 96% turbulent - negativity is my dream - I just want to see or be that shining light in the darkness.. See something beautiful every single day.. someone that gives me faith in humanity.. but no. In my world, I'm the only elf, and I'm racist towards humans.
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>>34597904
I've taken a few of these tests and always get INFP or INTP.

There's no hope for me is there.
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>>34604114
If you test INFP/INTP, you're a rational INFP.
Or have autism.
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>>34604170
Which one is the one that makes me have no dreams, ambitions, or passion for anything I do?

My only goal in life is to scrape by with as little effort on my part as I possibly can.
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>>34604198
INFP/rational (I'm one). INFPs are notorious for being able to do absolutely nothing without passion or drive of some sort.
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>>34603554
My pussy smells like horse patoot.
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Infreeeeeeeeeeee
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>>34597904
> INFP
> Happy as fuck

I don't understand how you guys make it sounf like a curse. It's great. I'm liked by everyone, and I have friends and a gf.
Being INFP is great!
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>>34597919
My man

Oligofrenia
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>>34604427
While reading that, I couldn't help but feel like there's some pieces missing in that story.

It sounds too perfect to be true.
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>>34598040
>letting a "personality test" on the internet decide whether you have talent

Your MBTI might not be the problem, buddy.
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>>34604242
I want to write, I have all these stories in my head, but I never write them down because I change them every time I think about them, they're based super heavily on how I am feeling at the time.

I've tried writing them into stories before, it's just a massive convoluted mess with no discernible plot.

More recently, I've started trying to turn the one positive in my life, my skill in games, into something more, by making simple guides and shit to help people improve.

While I very sincerely doubt that I'll make a living doing this, it's something to do, and I kind of like it.
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>>34598126
>tfw logical and well-organised INFP

It's a pretty good type when it's used right.
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>>34604485
I've talked to them. They're disgusting libtard normalfags.
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>>34599337
I made a semi-effort in high-school to socialize, so I'd say I have just about passable social skills. Not that it ever came to any use though, the lives INFPs tend to live, including my own, tend not to require it often.
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>>34599844
Pretty much this. I'm hermitted off from the world in a tiny apartment in a shit neighbourhood, just working on learning art and music and having as few working hours as possible.

It's pretty comfy actually.
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>>34604524
Indeed, it's one of the most common INFP desires. We live in our heads a lot, daydream, and get lost in our feelings generally.

And indeed, turning our inner art into beauty in the world is difficult for us. It is, like anything else, something to be practiced. If you truly want to start writing, I'd reccomend trying something like dream journalling. It'll give you a good basis for any creative works, and if you wish to lucid dream too, you can do that :)

I wish I was good at video games. The only thing I'm good at is being sad and self-depreciating.

And that's awesome, you making guides! May I ask what game(s)? :)

And if you enjoy it, and it's something to do, go for it :) The biggest hurdle with being an INFP is motivation and more importantly discipline.
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>>34604539
Indeed, our type does really shine when infused with some grounding logic. But to all the super-feelers out there with too many feels, I'd reccomend not trying to change yourself to be too logical. It'll just lead down the road of sadness. Be beautiful.
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>>34603468
It's decent at grouping like-minded people together. Definitely not anything scientific, though.
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can you relate guys?
>tfw no energy to do shit.

the only thing i envy from extroverted people.
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>>34604576
Was this reply meant for someone else?
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>>34604247
Mine smells like farts, cunt. Human farts.
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>>34604576
Robot INFPs can be pretty interesting, along with the more intelligent INFPs. I have few friends, but almost all of them seem to be INFP, as am I.

The mass majority of INFPs though are just fucking obnoxious and fake-sounding. I guess that just comes with normals.
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INTP here. Won't even pretend I'm master race
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>>34604638
As far as writing goes, I really should just try short stories to start, at least, that's what everyone recommends. The problem is, I can never keep them short... I expand them endlessly...

Journaling might be nice though, if I did anything with my days other than lounge around, playing vidya and watching movies. I fucked up my chances at uni, lost my scholarship, so I'm dropping this semester since I can't afford to borrow 6.5k a semester, so I haven't really been motivated at all to do much here now. Not that I did a whole lot to being with, and that's why I'm currently in this situation.

It's League of Legends, of all things, I've played since season 2(it's currently season 7), and over the years, I've actually gotten quite good, last season I ended in the top 5% of players.

The reason I started is honestly because I had endless amounts of people on my friends list that I didn't even know always asking me for game advice, and I'd always try to give them legitimate advice, not like gid gut XD, so I started writing guides and doing game analyses of matches I played, but I also try to do some live games, helps with entertainment value, and helps me also control myself, get less vocally frustrated in my matches, so I'm getting a little self improvement done in the process. Never liked how animated I got while playing games, and now I finally have a reason to start changing my behavior. It's slow going, but I'm making improvements.
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>>34604638
Discipline is definitely the more important factor over motivation. Especially for INFPs, waiting for motivation to come to work on something can be risky, as motivation can be hard to come by. Getting up and being able to do something you want to do, no matter unstable feelings on the matter is far more effective.

For an INFP to survive, being able to lead their feelings rather than letting their feelings lead them is a crucial skill.

>t. INFP, ~80% Feeling
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What are the proportions of MBTI types on /r9k/?
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>>34604715
>>34604247
Anyone here who doesn't have a cunt that smells like poop or farts needs to get the fuck out.
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>>34604815
50% who
50% cares
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>>34604815
>that completely original filename
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>>34604779
Oh wow, that's awesome! I was secretly hoping it was league. Been silver for 5 years and worst 49% never average or above :( S2 player here, still Silver - but that's beside the point.

Everyone says one thing, you need to find your own style. Don't be hampered down by ehat others reccomend. Do what you think feels right, even if it's stupid. Find your own methods.

Expanding your stories is great - why not just write them chapter by chapter if you want to write smaller stories first! Just the first chapter.

And indeed, if you do nothing special, what you can do is try to remember your dreams - everyone has them, and it does take some effort, but it helps you remembering your imaginative/creative moments as well!

Also, even if your life is completely mundane, it helps to write it down, so when something interesting does happen, either in your head or emotionally, or in reality, you can weite it sown easier :)

And that's okay - it's rough, but things do happen for a reason after all, even if we don't know it, or the reason is utterly stupid. We just have to have hope.

That's the entire reason I play League myself, really - trying to deal with my emotions and be less frustrated - it's a life skill that can help you akmost anywhere in life in social aspects.

Glad to hear you're making improvements - slow and steady wins the race in the end :)
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>>34604780
Indeed - but without motivation to build discipline, you won't get anywhere :p

It also helps as a boost to your activities, but indeed for ALL types, discipline is key.
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>>34604932
Tyoing was terrible, excuse the grammar and typos - A bit sleepy right now :)
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>>34604971
>>34604932
Well, if you are on NA, you can add me: SmileyMan01

You should probably head to bed if you are tired, I've been trying to get to bed myself, but insomnia paid me a visit tonight.
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>>34605022
And I'm from Oceania - but I have an NA account. Don't mind the name when I add you, anon - I will sleep soon :) NA account is in bronze 2 atm :)
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>>34605105
Well, have a good night anon.

Get some sleep.
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>>34597904
>ENFP
>Same as the INFP but you fake it
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FELLOW INFP'S, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY, RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING IS FINE IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD. I WISH I HAD A GF BUT MAN, I'M PLAYING DRUMS AND SCHOOL IS DOING GREAT.

I LOVE YOU INFP'S, LIGHT IS AHEAD, JUST LOOK FOR IT!

also: i'm on weed, fuck life.
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>>34597904
>>34605133
Being an ENFP is basically about tricking everyone into believing you're literally the happiest and most fun-loving person who ever lived while your soul slowly withers into dust.
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>>34597904
I still wouldn't want to be any other personality type.
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>>34603445
I started out as an ENFJ and get nothing but INFP now fml
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>>34597904

Thanks for reminding me I'm useless. Much appreciated.
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>>34599337
I'm decent enough at small talk, but it's exhausting and I have zero interest in maintsining facebook-tier friends.
If I can't find somebody to form some deeper connection with, I'd rather stay alone most of the time.
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Went from INTP to INTJ. That's an improvement, right?
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Just remember, the only thing holding you back as an INFP is yourself.
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>>34601695
The main character of your mom's basement kek.
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>tfw literally anime protagonist: the personality type
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>>34605389
>tfw literally the shittiest personality type
>INFP
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>>34605306

This is exactly my problem. I wish I could do the whole "online friend" thing, but I simply don't care unless it's a deeper form of a relationship.
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>>34605403
INFPs are cool. ENFP + INFP bromances are great since the ENFP has someone who they can just recline and talk dumb shit and real shit with and the INFP has someone who understands their thoughts and is better at expressing them.
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>>34605517
I wish I had an ENFP friend. I love ENFPs.
But they hate me because I'm one of those emo tier INFPs that only knows sadness.

So all I get is angry bitter INTJs.
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>>34605542
Protip: they don't hate you, they just see themselves in you. And if there's one thing most ENFPs can't stand, it's themselves.

Keep in mind ENFPs have all the self-loathing and insecurity of INFPs. The only difference is that the INFP shies away from social interaction out of fear of being ostracised whereas the ENFP engages in social interaction out of fear of being alone.
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>>34605580
I see, anon. Thankyou.
Any advice to meet some ENFPs that can tolerate my sad INFP self? :(
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>>34597904
>except your depression
you need to surround yourself with people you enjoy
>and your low self esteem
something you have to work on yourself, very easy if you chuck it in the fuck it bucket
>and your social incompetence
not really, INFPs are the ones getting approached on the streets because they usually have trustworthy appearances
>and your lack of talent
INFPs are born artists
>and the general cruel nature of the world
wont kill the innocence inside you
>and your weak constitution that makes you terrified of rejection from anyone
it hurts for a day but thats it, you get used to everything
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>>34605667
>surround yourself with people you enjoy
I hate all of humanity, because even other INFPs cannot understand my level of feels.
>low self esteem
Results from other factors, and can't really be controlled on it's own or it will simply slip back down with the depression.
>social incompetence
Not the biggest issue for INFPs I will agree, but please don't approach us, reeeeeeee
>lack of talent
We actually do lack talent, there are uncreative INFPs that are worthless at everything they touch.
>general cruel nature of the world
Very true - but this world hurts us, it turns us into monsters. Every fallen INFP is the next hitler, even though he was INFJ, the point still stands.
>weak constitution
It hurts, so so much. Every day, days and days on end. Even if that one moment only hurts for one day, it goes on forever.
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>>34605603
You just need to make sure that there's more than just sadness. ENFPs pride themselves on their abilities to listen to and support the people they care about, but even they have their logical threshold when it comes to grief, especially when you take into account that they're very emotional and often depressed in their own capacity.

If you want to befriend an ENFP, all you have to do is get out of your own head every once in a while and let them get to know you. ENFPs love making friends more than anything and will usually be the ones who go out of their way to befriend you and make you feel included. All you have to do is make it easier on them, not more difficult.
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>>34605725
I see. Thanks ENFP-anon.

I appreciate the advice.
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>>34599812
Ni is like dreaming, you live in your mind, you don't live in present, you live in the future. You feel like everything in front of you supposed to happen. When you do something, you plan ahead your steps in the future, you really don't care what's next, you stick to same thing. If you act by using memories/experience from your past, and feel strong nostalgia, you are more likely to be Si user (STJ or SFJ)

Te- you don't give a fuck about details, you don't brainstorm, you only think about concepts, you systemize shit with stuff like charts, graphs, you only care about the whole idea, not details. Along with Ni, you stick to idea, you don't ramble around. (if you often ramble and brainstorm about ideas and details, you're Ti user)

Fi- you're individualistic person. You don't care about what's happening and what others think about you, you stick to your own beliefs. Because of Fi, most of the people will see you as heartless faggot. (if you give a fuck about others, and care what others think about you, you are more likely Fe user)

Se- you usually are good at physical activities, can sense things that happens around you during this moment- "right here, right now" function, dominant/aux function that Chads and Stacies mostly use (you sense little bumps, vibrations, and stuff like that that happens right now). As an INxJ, you also get drained when you socialize with people for longer time, you feel weak when you spend time with bunch of people.
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>>34605714
you sound like a special snowflake

Stop feeling sorry for yourself you faggot

t. a fellow INFP
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>>34605542
NJs are rare. If you use your past experience and nostalgia, you're more likely to be grumpy ISTJ/ESTJ geezer.
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>>34606305
>Telling an INFP to stop feeling sorry for themselves

Might as well be asking an INTJ to stop being a rigidly inflexible autist or an ISTP to stop being a hedonistic sociopath.
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>>34606305
I hate positivityfag INFPs, they are literally normies.

This is why INFPs are considered the shittiest personality.

>>34606320
While they are very rare, I live on the internet. There's a much higher concentration of NT and NF types here than in the "real world".

I tend to come across them a lot, as they fucking love INFPs for some reason.
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>>34606328
Coming from an NFP too.
Def a cunt. Gas yourself.
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>>34606365
whoops anon, meant >>34606305

<3 you
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>>34606365
I'm not even the same guy. Why you trying so hard to be a big man?
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>>34606346
Depends on their point of view. Usually because of their Fi and Te functions. As INTJ, I would rather get ISTP or INTP over immature NFP.
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>>34606392
An an ENFP, I think most INTJ guys are insufferable, but INTJ women are pure sex.
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>>34606392
Indeed - point of view has a lot to do with it.

None of the traits in the MBTI are universal.

Except for INFPs being colossal faggots whether just the most fucking asshole person you've ever met, or the most cutesy literal fag you've ever met.
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>>34605732
I am also enfp. What he says is true. I used to be infp before therapy though
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>>34606429
You were probably an ENFP even then, anon.

The thing about ENFPs that sets them apart from all other extroverts is that they're ridiculously introverted. In fact, they're often alleged to be the most introverted extroverts in the MBTI spectrum.

A lot of ENFPs mistype as INFPs until they meet people who they truly connect with for the first time and realise that they've always been extroverts waiting on people who are interesting.
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>>34606392
"immature" NFP - so you're implying there's INFPs that are mature? Never met one myself.

Positivityfags are even worse than normalfags, they just make me want to fucking kill myself.
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I can't tell which type I am. When I was a little kid I used to almost exclusively get INTJ. Later on I got INTP in high school but this was also around the time I was making major life transitions (discovered a passion for music, moved from old hometown, and my mother's onset schizophrenia). Then I got some major depression and started getting INFP. Is this all just bullshit or am I still an INTJ at the core but with shitty habits?
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>>34606471
>Is this all just bullshit or am I still an INTJ at the core but with shitty habits?
A little of column B and a lot of column A.
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>>34606471
In general, if INFP is anywhere in your MBTI readings, assume INFP. They are the most versatile MBTI type and can type as literally anything due to their intense autismic feel systems.
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>>34606455
I think its the F and P part of it that makes life difficult, for me at least. I have had good friendships for most of my life, but I have always been very in tune with what people are feeling, and I am very perceptive. It can be a double edge sword sometimes, because when you want to be everyones friend like enfp do, you can use that perceptive nature and take things too far, and get labeled an outcast. Its like you have to double think, once when you get your immediate perception, and then again to translate it into a means of communication that doesn't seem too invasive or overbearing. I hope that makes sense
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>>34606418
They are fine as long as they are not tumblrites or sjws
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>>34606480
Damn I thought so. I was secretly hoping to never more INTP sincerity I read they tend to be more creative :(
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>>34606496
It's a hard life being an NF - you care about people and the world at large more than either could possibly care about you. It's a hard truth to face, at times.
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>>34606518
too true.. Its like being an alien sometimes. But at least I can actually feel like a human being instead of INTJ fags
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>>34606533
I feel less human than an INTJ, really.

Even other INFPs laugh and call me a piece of shit/faggot/so on.

Just fuck humanity already.

My motto in life is literally I wish I was an elf, so I could be racist to humans.

At least I have that, I can just live in my head all day without these normalfags.
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>>34606533
Being INTJ kinda sucks too. You are very critical to others when you don't mean it, you feel really exhausted in masses of people, people go with very high expectations about you, and everyone thinks that you are worst person alive because you don't care about feels.
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>>34606560
dont let the normalslime get you down. Being able to feel stuff is a good thing. At least we dont have to walk around like rainman.
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>>34606578
I can empathize with that, because I am enfp. But yea I feel a lot of that too.
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>>34606581
Indeed, that. I need to count my blessings. Thanks anon.
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>faggiest mbti

FBI, I'm INTP
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>>34597904

Being a introvert in modern society is basically being a loser nowadays isn't it. Everyone is fucking extroverted and if you are introverted you are missing out too much.

It's ten times worse when you are an INFP, when will you guys kill yourself?
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>>34606578
I can see where being an INTJ can present its own issues. Being an INTJ is kind of like being an ENFP: there's a reason they're often thought to be the perfect MBTI pairing.

INTJs, like ENFPs, have a desire to shake up the world and help make it a better place. They value ideals and ideas and people who hold their interest. Unlike ENFPs, however, they tend to lack social tact and awareness of other peiple's feelings, so they frequently step all over people's toes without even meaning to and end up driving others away despite the fact that sometimes they care for them just as much as an ENFP.

What they lack in tact, however, they make up for in directness and they're able to cut through to the root of things and give the plain, unadulterated truth. That's what I admire about INTJs: they don't lie to you, and they're not two-faced.

When an INTJ says they like you, you can take it to the bank without a second thought. When they say they love you, they may as well be jumping up and down on Oprah's couch.
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>>34606600
blessed with double dubs
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>>34606610
Actually, I'd argue that society is becoming much friendlier to introverts. Getting laid is as easy as swiping left on a phone, you get to walk around in public wearing headphones and looking at screens without having to interact with anyone, you have safe spaces and the internet and hugboxes.

It's easier to be an introvert now than ever before.
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>>34606633
>Getting laid is as easy as swiping left on a phone

do introverts actually do that? i always thought it was a more extroverted way of doing things.
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>>34606646
Extroverts are more likely to go out to the club or meet people face to face. Introverts are the ones who really depend on the digitization of the dating world.
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>>34606633
>I'd argue that society is becoming much friendlier to introverts
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>>34597904
Easy. I became an INTP

I don't feel anymore.
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>>34606680
I don't know what you thought life was like for introverts before the digital era, but I'll give you a hint: you wouldn't have had an internet message board to immerse yourself in and you certainly wouldn't be able to get your bare minimum of social interaction without leaving the house.
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>>34606660

i don't think so man. at least where i am, tinder are full of extroverted profiles, basically people bragging about their lives. it's kinda obvious. and all the people whom i know have tinder profiles are extroverted.
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>>34606716
Yeah, but Tinder is kind of supplementary to the extroverted lifestyle. I guess I should be referring more to the concept of online dating as a whole, which is definitely catered towards introverts over extroverts.
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>>34606706
I would be reading or doing something useful if shitty sites like this didn't exist. The internet is arguably more pro-extrovert nowadays with things like normiebook and Instagram. Don't have either one of those? You must be the next GG Allen or something.
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>>34606633
>Getting laid is as easy as swiping a phone
T. 6/10+ extrovert
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So from what I understand the population percentages of each MBTI type roughly translates to:

COMMON
>ISFJ
>ESFJ
>ISTJ

UNCOMMON
>ESTJ
>ESFJ
>ESFP
>ENFP

RARE
>ISTP
>INFP
>ESTP

SUPER RARE
>INTP
>ENTP

ULTRA RARE
>INTJ
>ENTJ
>ENFJ
>INFJ

However NFs seem to be underrepresented among males while NTs are underrepresented among females.
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>>34606730
>Tinder is kind of supplementary to the extroverted lifestyle

you said it yourself. that's why it's full of extroverts.
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>>34606862
>ISFJ
>ESFJ
>ISTJ

Imagine being this boring.
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>>34606862
That second ESFJ should be an ISFP
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We're the faggest of fags OP. Don't fool yourself.
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>>34606533
>>34606578

You guys dont understand the feeling-thinking dichotomy in MBTI. INTJs are some of the most emotional thinkers out there. Their "inner world" is surprisingly gooey and vulnerable. They just dont express it because its their tertiary function, and an introverted one at that. INTJs sound very cold and heartless because their main mode of communication with the world is Te, which is very rigid and straightforward. INTJs and xNFPs are similar in how they want to make the world a better place. The difference is that xNFPs think that this is achieved by peace and harmony, where as INTJs are much more comfortable with methods involving conflict and violence.

Certain Thinking types are much more emotional than you would think, they just dont make decisions based on it. Feelers make decisions based on what feels good to them, Thinkers make decisions based on what makes logical sense to them.
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>>34607040
That's something people don't seem to get.

Feelers think and thinkers feel. INTJs are surprisingly sensitive and emotionally invested in their beliefs because they have Fi as a tertiary function. Likewise, ENFPs are surprisingly adept at organising information and creating tangible frameworks for implementing their ideas because of their tertiary Te.

It's never so cut and dry
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>>34603609
Real scifi is speculative fiction, not the space fantasy shit like star wars
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>>34606977

>we believe that people should be nice to each other
>we believe that everyone is nice in their heart

of course man, we are fucking fags.
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>>34607114
You sound butthurt m8.

I don't think those things, either.
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*gentle fedora tip*
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tfw INTP
literally to intelligent for these feels
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Dropping my results. Dunno what this implies here tho.
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>>34599929
>make fun of INTJs because you think they have a false sense of superiority
>you are actually an INTJ and have a false sense of superiority
Just as planned
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>>34607121
Harpoon gun to the head, pin him to the wall.
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Dear INFP in this thread, you are beautiful! Please know that whatever is going on in your lives as long as a choice you make is authentically your own it matters and it was right. You are gifted!
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>>34597904
>dream about how wonderful the world could be
>especially via alternate-history wanking, because that's about as realistic as you can possibly get. (albeit not implementable.)
>get to depressed to do anything because the world has taken the wrong path so many times and will never recover
>imagination becomes a demon as it dawns on you how horrible the future will be
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>34607386
Do you actually believe this or are you making fun of us?
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>>34598126
>rational
>minarchist
you're not rational, you're an intellectual midget who believes in rothbardian memetics.
>fuck finding useful solutions to our economic problems, that's tooo haaaaaaaaaard :( just leave things alone and they'll get better eventually because muharkets are magic!
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>>34597904
>No one can stop you from dreaming!
>list
Well...it fits..
About to make an hero in some months!
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>>34607438
he pities us.
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>>34597919
I suspect that many of the failed normies here are actually ENTPs who are mistyping themselves as INTP because they have social anxiety. ENTPs with social anxiety can use the internet as a substitute for their need for stimulation and can end up addicted to sites like this.
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Perfect world is just a fantasy. There won't be one and you just have to accept it. Only thing you can do is be the best person you can be that can hopefully inspire others in the process. Many won't attempt picking anything up in your wake, but the very few that do makes it worth it.

You can't make a person change, they have to want to, and it can be a domino effect, even if it is slow.
>>34600520
It helps to read emotions because you can spot venomous people much more easily, wanting to tear people down due to their arrogance or what ever they have. You can guard yourself against them once you spot it.
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>>34602669
Just cry with me
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>>34607282
There is probably a baby on his back.
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>ISFP
>get physically altered when conflict arises
>mfw even hearing my family heightening their voices downstairs when they are watching TV makes me nervous
aside from that I'm pretty balanced and chill
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>>34607404

This is why grand strategy games were made, my man.

>tfw fixing everything that went wrong and preventing what will go wrong
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I feel like I am none of the types. If I had to pick my function stack it would be

Dominant Introverted Intuition
Auxillary Introverted Feeling
Tertiary extroverted feeling (not sure about this one)
Inferior introverted sensing
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>TFW ENTJ

originalio
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>>34608133

You probably do have a type, but just cant figure it out. Im in the same boat, i can identify types in others pretty easily but cannot seem to figure out my own.
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>>34608133
Probably INTJ in an Ni - Fi loop. Autism can feel like introverted sensing.
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>>34607503
social anxiety turns E into I
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>>34603468
had ISTP friend deny any of this is true without looking into it
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>tfw ISTJ
>boring
>autistic
>robotic
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16personalities is shit, I am actually an ISTP.
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>>34598191
I'm an INFP and doing 3D art for games
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>>34608133
way to not understand functions. the functions stacks of the 16 types are all there is possible and if you disagree you didnt understand jungs crappy theory, read up.
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>>34606282
>get drained when you socialize with people for longer time, you feel weak when you spend time with bunch of people.
I feel this as INFP_T

other people can actually be toxic to me. it's scary. random times I always say " I wish I can live in a dumpster and be alone to my own thoughts."
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>>34597945
>I think you meant INTJ

>>43597919
INTJ are the masterminds. Therefore, master race.
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>>34608776

I usually get ISTP and have ended up with ESTP on there as well.
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>>34599929
That total lack of focusing on yourself is very INTJ of you
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>>34604779
Well, why not write an interactive fiction work then? It's creative writing and also game design.
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>>34604780
Discipline is what separates the successful artists from the dilettantes. Professional artists don't get to take a day off when the motivation isn't there.
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>>34605329
Is your life better? If so, then yes.
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>>34605542
Is there any other type of INTJ really?
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>>34597904
One of the things I don't like about MBTI over more empiracle and scientifically backed personality inventories is that people always end up with these weird stereotypes about each type.

None of the stuff you mentioned has to do with being an INFP. It has mostly to do with you Emotionality/Stability (which is substituted by Turblulace/Assertiveness in this test) and its intersection with Introversion.

Also being an Introvert or Extravert doesn't have anything to do with sociability directly.

I'm an INFP and I'm very social and friendly; I have plenty of Extraverted friends less social than me.
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>>34607090

In response:

Due to the high amount of cosmic radiation in the interplanetary medium and in the interstellar medium, any science fiction that depicts space travel outside of transit among the Earth, Venus, and Mars systems in ships without one meter of water shielding (about 10x the gamma ray halving-thickness for water), space walks outside of magnetospheres in non-emergency situations, or interplanetary spacecraft with windows, is science fantasy. Since weight must be minimized and shielding must be maximized for any given habitable volume, and since a flat ring on part of the habitable volume is necessary to produce artificial gravity, any non-spherical habitable volume on a spacecraft is science fantasy.

Water shielding would be used because water is a good radiation shield, and it can also be used as a source of propellant, breathable air, or, you know, water, if necessary.

I hate to break it to you, but all science fiction that involves space travel, save perhaps for a few works, is science fantasy.
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>>34601472
I do the same thing with this dude.
Damn it is that a schizo thing? Isn't that just analyzing the situation?
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>>34607503
Hnng you got me good.

Though, I do type as ENTP and not INTP. Your explanation still got me.
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>>34607114
About 4% of people are psychopathic, sociopathic, or anti-social. There are a lot of heartless bastards in the world. I think that this is the case because, before the advent of civilization, a large number of heartless bastards was necessary for our survival. After the advent of civilization, and therefore, warfare, a larger number of heartless bastards was necessary for our survival.
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>>34607538
Harpoon him in the head, pin him to the ceiling.
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>>34608836
At least the MBTI gets people talking about their differences and similarities in a systematic fashion. It is an improvement on the prior art.
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>>34605329
Definitely.
INTJ>INTP

original comment asd
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>>34597904

what about INFJ people?
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>>34606413

>pure sex
what does this even mean?
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>>34609997
and what are these other inventories ?
I want to try them.
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>>34606471

No. Personality is shaped by experiences. It changes. So if you get INFP now, you're an INFP now.

>tfw from glorious rational INTJ to emotional INFP
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>>34597904
Too bad my add and autism is keeping me from actually doing shit
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>>34607040

>INTJs are some of the most emotional thinkers out there.
>They just dont make decisions based on it
>Feelers make decisions based on what feels good to them, Thinkers make decisions based on what makes logical sense to them.

LOUDER FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR.
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>ISTP
>Nothing is enjoyable
>Can't keep up with any friendships
>Get bored of everything and everyone I invest effort in
>Nothing purposeful to pursue in life

Is this normal lads?
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>>34597927
This. You got it wrong OP, literally nothing will stop you from dreaming. Not even death.

The only sensible solution is to turn that frown upside down
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>>34606471
>>34610412
Woah woah woah
I am also an INTJ > INTP > INFP
I went from argumentative atheist, to woah dude look at these cool facts and have you noticed this thing, I have a cool theory I just made up about that, to crying over everything and living in a fantasy world
What is going on?
What is the reason behind this trend?
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>>34609997

Introversion and extraversion is a matter of how you get your energy, really.
>doesn't have anything to do with sociability directly.

true story.
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>>34610613
what "energy" are you referring to?
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>>34610611

Try to make a breakdown of your life experiences.
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>>34610555
Pretty much, yeah. Real life is exceedingly boring and with society not requiring us to fight for our lives, there's not really anything to do.

>>34610611
You lot have brain damage.
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>>34610703
>Real life is exceedingly boring and with society not requiring us to fight for our lives, there's not really anything to do.

fucking this
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>>34610703
Well shit, I guess that explains why boxing is literally the only thing that holds my attention any more. Never feel more alive than when I'm fighting lads.
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>>34610611
>to woah dude look at these cool facts

>tfw this is the extent of my "intelligence" and everything else I do is just wild speculative theories

>tfw I'll never be in a position to truly learn something new about the world so all I can do to interest myself is watch documentaries and regurgitate the facts I learn

>tfw even that isn't enough anymore as I slowly shrivel away from lonliness because I've barely even touched a woman let alone had one validate my existence

I just want to curl up in the quiet dark and stay there sometimes.Why does life have to be hard?
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>>34610389
Any of the more recent and popular (in scientific research) trait models are good. They can be found on this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trait_theory#Comparing_EPQ_and_Big_Five

Pretty much anything similar to the NEO PI-R is good. HEXACO is great because it's easy to find online for free:
http://hexaco.org/hexaco-online

They don't tell you a little MBTI acronym, but you can translate them into it using pic related.

>>34610613
Actually not quite, but it is closer than the sociability thing. Most recent studies of behavior believe it to be at its core a stimulation/sensation seeking trait. Basically Extraverts are more easily under-stimulated and require higher levels of stimulation to feel engaged; Introverts are more easily over-stimulated and find higher levels of stimulation unpleasant. This kind of mimics the whole "where you get your energy from" things but that outlook in itself has issues, the main one being that everyone (including Introverts) is more energized be social interaction because it's an inherently stimulating activity.

This also explains why Extraversion/Introversion are correlated with so many other different characteristics. Extraverts are more competitive, cheat more often, engage in more dangerous activities, are more physically active and have a propensity for over eating. None of that has to do with socializing, so it makes sense that at it's core that isn't what Extroversion should be about.
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>>34610658

Extroverts, when feeling low, get back their zest and liveliness by socializing.

Introverts on the other hand can also be sociable but gain back energy by doing solitary activities.

People naturally lean towards activities that give them energy. So extroverts spend more time with people while introverts spend more time alone but both type can be sociable.

That's why most of the bots here who aren't really introverts but rather shy and socially inept extroverts are sad because they can't de-stress and "gain energy"
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>>34610835
>wild speculative theories
>regurgitate the facts I learn
hey these are both pretty different though
I mean, everything cool starts out as a wild speculative theory
I don't think it makes sense to bemoan the fact that you're capable of theorizing.
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>>34611005
>implying any of what I speculate isn't something someone else has already thought of
Maybe if I thought of things that were reasonable to do, but daydreaming about the perfect political system that I'd put in place if I had a small space colony on mars won't ever really turn into anything "cool".

At least anime is some nice escapism so I can stop thinking for a while and just numb myself to my own helplessness. I'm watching Lain currently, it's nice I guess. Recently I feel like I want to just drown myself in 80's media and aesthetics even though I don't really know much about the 80's. It just seems comfy to me I guess.

Sorry for blogging. I guess I should mention I'm INTP to be thread relevant, although once I got INTJ when I was in a really bad mood.
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>but daydreaming about the perfect political system that I'd put in place if I had a small space colony on mars won't ever really turn into anything "cool".
If there ever was a mars colony with a unique political system that system would have started out as an idea. And the idea is cool enough in its own right, it's better than the trite shit that could replace it, and would, if theorizing wasn't in your nature.

Sorry m8o it just seems like a dumb thing to hate yourself over. You might be helpless when it comes to implementing your ideas but even having them in the first place is half the battle.
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>it's better than the trite shit that could replace it, and would, if theorizing wasn't in your nature.
Like the confidence to get a gf and the ignorance to ignore everything bad and be happy?
I'd make a trade for those qualities honestly. I just want to feel happy and loved at this point but I'm basically female repellent.
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