Give me one reason why living is a good thing.

I've no clue. I've got 95 hours left.

>>34584014
There isn't desu. Sorry.

Oh fuck off. Go kill yourself already. Fucking christ nigga,always seeking attention like some kid. Seriously,unironicaly, go kill yourself.

>>34584014
Well, this is pretty much it.. Life isn't really fair at all that is something I am coming to learn. It isn't a fairy tale. But there is nothing else. You do realize that don't you?

>>34584029
95 hours to live? Story time anon?

I smoke good weed, take baths, listen to dope beats all day. something about living in the past is depression living in the future is anxiety living in the present is stress

>>34584058
Thanks for the nice comment anon.

>>34584014
Before you had nothing, no thoughts or feeling then suddenly you are given this chance to experience all that, all the joys and pains of this world. To create, to destroy, to love, to hope, to know pain, everything occurs. For good or for bad you have this one chance. Its what you make of it.

>>34584081
That first part was gay as shit

But that last part.. that was really well said. Extremely well said

>>34584062
So? Would rather have nothing than pure shit

Because we have internet, anime, games and porn. That makes living pretty good.

>>34584058

You seem upset, anon. Is there something you would like to talk about?

>>34584117
No you don't man.. Nothing is permanent if you put the effort down. For example

I was a fucking drug addict dude, when I was coming off my methadone I thought about ending it not because I was sick but because I was such a fucking failure I lost everything to heroin and it took all the joy away from my life

I am 4 months off methadone now.. which isn't a big deal I was hit with severe anxiety and depression on top of my fucking emotional issues I havent dealt with in 7 years living in a shitty apartment with my dad and worthless step mom

I would fantasize about ending it dude.. you need to try harder. Its just not worth it. Remember NOTHING is permanent

>>34584150
I need to actually put grammar here so this makes more sense

I am 4 months off methadone which isn't a big deal. I was hit with severe anxiety and depression on top of emotional issues I havent dealt with in 7 years because I was using

I have to re-learn how to be human dude.. in every fucking aspect. Being around people is still uncomfortable for me.

I am currently living broke as shit in a shitty fucking apartment with dad and worthless step mom.. but I am actually for once in 7 years dude 7 YEARS starting to actually feel like I am getting control back. What doesn't kill you will make you stronger ultimately

Before you end it man.. you need to consider that life is not just about being happy and successful its what you make of the individual parts that complete the whole

I highly advise you to consider otherwise but I cant stop you

>>34584068
There's no story. That's just the time I'm giving myself. I'm not gonna make a big deal of it or sperg out or spend a ton of money on silly shit. I'm just gonna keep going like normal and then clock out.

>>34584212
If you give yourself a set time it's never going to happen. You either do it or don't.

>>34584254
I like keeping to a schedule. If I want control over one thing, it's that. It's not asking too much.

There's nothing inherently good or bad about it, it just is. If it's bad to you, and you might as well kill yourself - not like it matters. Just be sure that you don't want anything else out of life, because it's likely there's nothing after death. Even if you do regret your decision, it will only be for a short moment before you fall into eternal nothingness.

>>34584014
Lel I was wondering the same thing. It's a subjective question though, isn't it? I guarantee the reasons people in the thread are legitimately right to them, but the only one who can answer that question for you is, well, you.

>>34584292
Shut the fuck up faggot

don't do it dude

I went to the park yesterday and noticed there was a plaque on each bench, they all had a few words mentioning the ones that past away, some said what they did some gave a poem, one of the benches had the words 'A bench for dreams' I sat on that one.

>>34584212
Same person with the sob story

No matter how hard it gets dude, ending it is never the answer you have to push to get to better days

I know how that shit feels I know how hopeless shit can look you gotta keep pushing.. ending it just isn't worth it this is literally all you have that's why no matter how shitty it gets you still have your life

>>34584342
I've been to the other side anon, trust me. Dead people are literally kekking at all you lifefags right now because you don't even realize dying is the winning condition of this game.

>>34584014
Sauce?

Spaniels Vdgdud b d

>>34584451
Then why are you still here? This isn't an original question.

>>34584451
Winning isn't the objective though man you came at this with a fatalistic perspective even though it seemed nihilistic to begin with.. Winning isn't the goal, its just existing there isn't any inherent truth to winning it wont make you happy which is ultimately why killing yourself is fucking stupid

>>34584451
The truth I will tell you though is fighting instead of giving in.. dying is easy its life that is hard in order to feel fulfilled you have to fight so your life has meaning giving in is giving up why so many people end it because they get stuck in their maladaptive ways and start focusing on things that don't even matter

>>34584424
I'm sure that works for a lot of people. I've been insisting that for years and it's just not happening. There's just nothing left to go for.

I know I'm being selfish, cowardly, petty, childish and a faggot but...oh well. Some people become addicts. Some people become sell themselves. Some people become a freedom fighter. I'm just another (FUCKING) white male adding to the statistic.

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People aside, the world itself is actually a beautiful place.

>Feeling the cool mist of a rainy day on your skin. Taking in its damp, earthy smell.
>The sound of crickets and bullfrogs on a balmy spring or summer night at least where I live.
>The warm light of the sunset, casting everything in its soft, golden glow or even better, sunset on a rainy day, when the sky turns a brilliant pink and purple.
>The rustle of dry leaves on a gloomy autumn afternoon, the sharp chill of the coming winter only barely perceptible

>>34584354
Do you have any dreams?

>>34584558
I can't stop you but you're making a huge mistake the only reason I am trying to make this a point is because I was at that point myself like I said before.. there is always a way out dude. You just need to keep hanging on.

>>34584558
And I know these just sound like empty platitudes, because they are if you don't view it the right way, it took a change of perspective for me to see that it will hit you one day if you decide to keep living.. but you have to find that yourself.

I know they sound like platitudes but they do have meaning to them you need to find that yourself though

>>34584579
I'm sure there is probably one. But I'm not waiting for years and years for something that'll make me go "yup, I'm good". I've already done that and I'm burnt out. I deal with people twice my age making roughly as much as I do going "that's just how life is" while I see a ton of people who just had better luck. Blame roguelikes. If you roll up a bad run, you erase and restart.

>>34584619
There's no restarting man if that's what you meant. Its just over.

>>34584468
I came down from the heavens to troll you measly mortals.

>>34584491
Yea that was a troll post, the first reply were my true thoughts on the matter.

>>34584542
Dying isn't easy. It's arguable what's easier, to live or to kill yourself, but both take a lot of strength to go through with, especially depending on circumstances.

>>34584081
This is some stupid shit. Depression is a chemical reaction in the brain. Like when you touch something hot, your brain sends signals that go "hot" ===> remove hand. When you're depressed, it's your brain taking a large portion of all stimuluses and having the response be negative. As a result, no matter what the input, the output is negative. Brains can go years of training to respond in such a way before someone can recognize what's happening. It's a downward spiral of improper wirings.

That being said, it's possible to train yourself and rewire your brain, but it's a pain in the ass.

>>34584631
Probably. This apathy towards self preservation is now original

>>34584645
Dude you could shoot up a fat shot and suffer NO consequences and you couldn't stop it.. that shit is easy. Making the decision is hard but following through is simple because there are tons of ways to die, but no one really knows how to live "right" you have to find that yourself, finding meaning is what makes life worth living that's what makes it hard because its not just going to fall in your lap

>>34584613
>it will hit you one day if you decide to keep living
Just curious, but do you think it will one day "hit me" too if I never was suicidal in the first place?

>>34584712
As long as you are looking for it, it will. Eventually. As long as you actively pursuing and continually looking yeah it will find you

Being patient is the most important thing a lot of people don't understand the meaning of being patient it takes a lot of practice, especially when you are young

>>34584645
And life is short anyway.. its just stupid to make it even shorter.. you'll be dead soon before you know it and the universe will continue on without you for hundreds of billions of years.. that number isn't out of my ass either.. you are a cosmic spec on a much larger and much greater theater than you could possibly imagine, you got this one chance to bear witness to something completely unexplainable its not even that long in the grand scheme of things.. its just not worth it at all.

>>34584732
Why be patient for something that might not ever happen? It's all random chance.

>>34584685
Yeah but it's not hard for all people to live. Some people never think about what the "right" way to live is, yet they enjoy their lives and everything seems to happen for them without much effort. You can just as easily fall into a cycle of living mundane but pleasant days and end up rarely facing any serious hardships in life.

>>34584780
That isn't the point though.. its not about getting to a point dude. All this shit around you this experience is meant to be a journey there will be good and bad parts but it wont be all bad and it wont be all good, its not about being happy its about finding what makes you happy and getting those fleeting moments that makes living worth it because you worked for it

I know it sounds like bullshit but there is just no good reason to stop living considering how short your life really is

>>34584732
Hmm, well, I'm not actively pursuing "it" so I guess it won't hit me. Too bad, I suppose I'll have to settle for this mediocre life.

>>34584761
Let's see you say life is short when you're slowly being tortured to death. Even if you really are a strong-willed person, I think I'm not wrong to think most people would wish for death in such a situation.

>>34584803
This is fuckin bullshit. Life if short only relative to certain scales like history or the universe. From a practical standpoint though, our lives seem long to us which is all that matters. You know what I want from life? Something easy. Otherwise I'd rather not play. Existing means needing resources, and needing resources means having to compete for them with other things that need resources. I didn't sign up to be a part of this rat race so why shouldn't I be allowed to quit?

>>34584836
That's different man that's the whole idea of torture is break your will to live

>>34584127
you will get bored of those once youre an adult

>>34584847
Whether it is it's intentional or not (likely, just bad luck), life itself does torture some individuals.

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>>34584803
I've had this journey and so far it sucks. The world is actively becoming more shit. Marriage is more likely to fuck me over than not. I'm the most openly hated demographic and will be for decades. I've been wanting to kill myself since I was 12 because I was always told I was shit from school people to a part of my own family. I have zero career aids or people to network with so I'll be stuck trying to get a starting tier job that somehow requires a Bachelor's and three years experience.

I'm not the type who wins a lottery. I'm the type to go Christopher Titus without the audience.

>>34584846
That is true, I never said you aren't allowed to quit never once said that.. its just not worth it to give up and yes your life is short dude.. time is relative but it doesn't make what I said any less true.. Human life is very brief and its all you have, fuck all the standards you need to live by and thinking you need to have what everyone else has..

Most people are miserable they are just better at hiding it. When you are considering ending your life and living there just isn't much argument without actual context because killing yourself is literally retarded.. but I am kind of nature like do drugs in the woods and admire nature kind of guy; not a complete hippy because obviously I am "red pilled" even so far as to say.. "bog pilled" (praise our overlords), but there's more to life than how good you have it or what other people have compared to you.

That is where all your anguish comes from and you dont see that. You compare yourself to other people and it makes you miserable.. fuck them.

>>34584846
>why shouldn't I be allowed to quit?

Hey now, slave, don't forget that birthing and nurturing you until maturity is not free. You are now indebted, and it would be a waste to let you die before you repay us twofold. So, please, remember that life is amazing and go back to slaving away at your job every day again :^)

>>34584914
>Marriage
>Hated demographic
>Bachelor's degree

You are thinking in terms of society and America. This place is inherently shit. But that has only been over the last 8 years. Yes we are on a decline, but there are more important things then what you "have" and you need to find that. You don't find meaning in a fancy degree or marriage its all a fucking meme and always has been. You find meaning with in you first not what society tells you is meaningful because that shit will make you miserable. Its all fucking bullshit anyway, you already know that.

>>34584946
That is not what I said at all, you literally just don't have the right perspective on this shit although it is the "logical and rational" perspective its not the right one.. Life is bullshit that isn't a mystery, but growing up thinking otherwise is also a fallacy on itself. Which is why 4chan can be a cancerous place for some because it allows you to safely continue perpetuating your biases.

Fuck other people dude, you need to find what matters to you not other people, other people wont make you happy you gotta do that for yourself

>>34584916
>killing yourself is literally retarded..

>He thinks indirectly insulting depressed people will make them want to live

Heh, you should become a psychologist or something.

>>34584014

It isn't. It's almost like the good parts of life are only there so you'll feel compelled to perpetuate a cycle of suffering by reproducing.

>>34584916
You're on the right track (especially about the bog pill) but there's one thing you got totally wrong, which is that I compare myself to others. The reason I feel so shitty and the reason I want to die is because I continously let myself down. I know my potential better than anyone else and thus I know just how much I'm falling to live up to it. I have so many wonderful people in my life that wouldn't care even if I was a full on NEET for the rest of my life. However at the end of the day their opinion doesn't matter to me. Only my own does and I will never be satisfied unless I'm at my best. So logically you'd think I'd work hard to accomplish that, right? Nope. The discrepancy between my desires and actions is vast, and it makes me sick. There's only one person I absolutely have to live with for the rest of my life, and that's the man in the mirror. Problem is that I hate him, and that loathing only increases over time.

>>34584014
I can't, m8.
Originalo
origiloo
I'm going to go
take a big poo.

>>34584998
Sorry I am just typing things out quickly I am by no means condescending or trying to be insulting I am trying to deliver a point to you in the most effective way possible because its your life man.. that shit should matter to you.

>>34584988
I wasn't directly referring to you in that post, just people in general that say life is an amazing journey and everyone should enjoy it etc. It's nice to know you aren't that deluded, at least.

>>34585009
You are in the exact same boat as me

I am in literally the same spot, but success isn't a one way street. There are many turns and back stepping and back peddling and that is what successful people know. Its the unsuccessful ones that think if they just come up with a plan that's it, they just have to follow through.. they do not consider all the pitfalls along the way and you have to take them in stride to make it to where you want to go or be.. its not going to be easy, its going to make you question yourself, your sanity, and your dignity, but the point is that is how life works and as soon as you see it the right way you will want to continue living

>>34584965
It is bullshit but that's how the game is played. That's all that matters.

Even then, the pure fucking basic of what I can and can't afford is what makes me say fuck it. Do you know what my dream is? It's to not have to worry about bills. Not go NEET but to have enough coin so I don't worry about due dates or loan sharks or debt collectors. I've seen that shit all over growing up and I refuse to have a life that requires me to focus on money above all else. And that's all I am doing with myself these days because everything that's ok is grossly overshadowed by how little I make.
I don't go out. I don't date. I don't drink or smoke. I spend maybe $100 a month on vidya if even that much. I live as decently as I can which I know has to be very minimalist because it comes out to maybe 24k a year of expenses. I don't want to have to care about money. I don't want to have to think that I'll be fucked for years and have to work more than 50 hours a week for two years just so I can pay off some botched surgery that lawyers will strive to cover up.
I don't want to be a star or celebrity or anyone more than just some goon. But I can't keep going while knowing that most likely I'll be tied to finances with no way to improve. I don't want some hippy panel van version of freedom. I just want to be able to do what I want in my own little bubble without going "well fuck, can't do that unless I want everything tumbling down if so much as one thing goes awry".

>>34585056
Maybe I'm not destined to be a successful person then. My mindset is toxic and I know that more than anyone.

>>34585056
This is what makes life worth living man.. its always up in the air, its always exciting trying to claw your way to the top, its understanding how to execute properly through all the snares that WILL come up. Some people don't get that and it trips them up, I used to not understand that. But that is the idea, you just need to know how to plan accordingly and prepare for the worst so you aren't thrown into a suicidal tailspin because things aren't going the way you want them at a given time, you fuck up you step back and then re work your original goal

>>34585079
I will tell you one thing.. I gotta go smoke a cig and shit, but I still have a toxic mind set I was trying to get benzos because I couldn't deal with shit anymore. I just want this fucked up shit to stop like at the snap of a finger but it doesn't work like that. You actually need to put effort down to get anything that you want, and it has to be.. your purpose, or you will fall short

Hold on I gotta smoke so I can think again

>>34585077
Yeah right now its a struggle and its going to be for awhile, you will eventually succeed if that is your purpose though I am literally starting to shut down here.. go back through what I said.. its not about your circumstances and feeling hopeless about them because you WILL GAIN NOTHING.. you WILL LOSE if you think that way.. if you are driven BY PURPOSE you will succeed.. do you get what I am saying. It is pointless to consider it from a logical standpoint because logic is not purpose.. purpose isn't logical. It is a response to logical thinking, but an EMOTIONAL response. You have to find that purpose I can tell you this over and over and I know it wont click instantly.. but the point is that is for you to discover for yourself in this journey we call life.. and its worth it man, no matter how fucking shitty it gets, that's just life.. your life YOUR INDIVIDUAL LIFE is not a game and you shouldn't treat it that way step outside of society and find YOURSELF.. Life in a societal sense is a game, but your individual purpose.. that's on you.

>>34584014
Sex money power

>>34584058
I'm working on it anon, thanks for the words of encouragement :,)

>>34584150
you made the wrong choice. You traded one addiction in for another

>>34584014
It isn't but you can make a good thing out of it. Unfortunately it requires an external stimulus for those of us who can't make it on our own.

>>34584424
ending it is literally the only answer. I mean what the fuck is the point of dying of cancer after a hard miserable life. So dumb. Only trustfund babby chads ought to want to live. Even then I'm not so sure

>>34584542
>things that don't matter

like living?

>>34585351
So literally none of the things robots have.
Amazing

>>34584761
Just the opposite. Why should I stand for even an iota of disutility when suicide can only amount to an inconsiderable abbreviation of my life?

>>34584014
Do something interesting before you die if you choose it.

Life is unfair. Damage some infrastructure

>>34584847
yes but the problem is that I could be tortured horribly without any sort of prior warning annd that is just unacceptable.

>>34584916
you're just a dumb stoner with dumb stoner retard logic.

>>34585107
why do we have to do these things? Just replace "life" here with "heroin" and the biases become clear.

I tried man.. I never once said you had to listen to me just tried to offer advice but you still succumb to your own biases..

All I can say is.. good luck.

>>34585807
your advice was trite and also gay

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the truth is no one knows for sure what happens after you die, so it's best to just ride out life until it sucker-punches you in the dick one day and gives you cancer or some shit.

>inb4 religion
man-made delusions manufactured to solve the fear of death
/edge

Plus dying seems fucking boring anyway. There's far too much stuff to do on Earth, and who knows what the alternative even is.

>buh- my life is so shitty! i hate my parents they took away my xbox!
Feeling -anything- is better than potentially becoming nothing after you die.
Humans can't even comprehend what nonexistence is. Why would you knowingly embrace the unknown like that?
Seriously, fucking attempt to think about what it's like to NOT exist. You can't.
It's impossible to understand, because we can't remember a time in our life when we ever didn't exist.

>it's just like sleeping tho! xd!
Can you say that for certain? How do you know?


So one reason for not killing yourself?
There's fucking nothing else to do.

Might as well play the game, because who knows what's after this.
You all should honestly be afraid of dying.
Nothingness and incomprehension is terrifying.

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dying is such a hassle so i won't bother w/it

>>34585825
Yeah, but this isnt a logical argument dude probably should have stated that from the beginning

>>34585856
They are LARPers who want help but then bite you when you hold a hand out..

Im still sick and typing ideas out quickly and somewhat incoherently cuz I do that, but you should take what I said and apply it to yourself.. its not just going to click right away I don't have a tailored answer for you.. Only you can find that.

You know how many people I lash out at on a daily basis when they cant possibly relate to what its like being tortured mentally and physically.. having no control over how youre going to feel waking up in the morning.. not being able to sleep without meds?

Pain makes people do stupid things and search for quick solutions because its in our nature to avoid pain and its also in our nature to be impatient

>>34585655
..its not logic we are arguing here dude. All I can say is you need to be patient and you need to seek out the answers yourself.. I cant tell you what to do. But, you should respect what little time you have and if you havent noticed time seems you go faster as you get older. Notice how quickly your childhood was?

Thats kind of how this is going to go.

Because you can inflict suffering on others.

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>>34584014
They have Netflix now in the modern era, and you can watch Star Trek The Next Generation any time you want.

>tfw too smart too help anyone, too autistic to explain it

>inb4 "normal fag get off my board"

>>34584127
Only thing that makes me happy now is music. Mainly mindless trap shit and jazz.

>think of killing myself
>realise no one would come to my funeral

>>34586008
Gonna take that picture from you if you don't mind

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>he thinks death is the end

ooo wee, you're in for a treat!