Feeling like shit again? Get in here. We're going to alleviate

I'm not going to go to the gym or eat healthier if that's what this is about

>Demonstration video of the technique being used on war veterans for PTSD, traumatic war memories and nightmares (Recommend watching this first)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3JnxLWe5RI

>What is it, how does it work?
http://www.emofree.com/eft-tutorial/tapping-basics/what-is-eft.html

>Written tutorial
http://www.emofree.com/eft-tutorial/tapping-basics/how-to-do-eft.html

>Basic tutorial videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AW01rT92Ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCE4P6Ue0w

>Here you can search for specific emotional problems and tap along with the video
https://www.youtube.com/user/eftwizard

>Comprehensive video course on piratebay
thepiratebay(DOTTT)org/torrent/4025348/The_EFT_Course_-_Emotional_Freedom_Technique_-_Gary_Craig

>>34552038
No, but it will help you get over whatever is keeping you from doing these things.
Then you'll be able to go to the gym or eat healthy without forcing yourself to do it.

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>>34552019
Thanks anon. Really needed this since my life has been going downhill. I'm going to the doctor sometime this week to see what's going on with me. I've been put on every SSRI antidepressant and nothing has helped me. I stopped taking them for about six months because I was afraid to try anything else but at this point it's either medication and therapy or I'll end up offing myself sometime soon.

Thanks for making this thread. I just wanted to rant a bit and it helped.

>>34552745
No problem, this is exactly why I do this.
If this helps even in the smallest way then I consider my goal met.
If you're up to it we can chat on omegle and I'll try to get to the root of your problems.

omegle tag: r9kpostman

What's the tl;dr of this stuff?

>>34552953
Gets rid of negative emotions.

>>34552989
No, the actual process of doing so.

>suffer from severe anxiety for years
>found a way to mute anxiety by not experiencing big things
>now im actually a shutin as a result
>decided to pursue art from home
>wake up nervous every day because im 26 years old and my life isn't moving ahead

>>34552019
I get a creepy vibe from these videos, other than the first one which I wasn't able to watch.
Maybe this is helpful, but it seems like a weird thing that maybe has a placebo effect or something.
Also are you only suggesting this to abuse victims, or those with some possible minor PTSD or just generic social anxiety like most on this board have?

>>34553103
Actual process is kind of weird.
>rate your emotional distress on a 0-10 scale.
>tap on certain acupuncture points in your body while you focus on a negative emotion.
>some eye movements too.
>whole thing takes about 1 minute to perform.
>while you do these things your emotion sort of fades (for a lack of a better word this is actually how it feels)
>after you're done you check your emotional distress again it will usually go down a few points
>rinse and repeat until you reach 0

>>34553261
This is almost identical to EMDR.

What does this have that EMDR doesn't?

>>34553172
I hear you. You can either go through the information I posted above or chat with me on omegle and I'll help you find specific issues to tap on.

omegle tag: r9kpostman


>>34553196
>Maybe this is helpful, but it seems like a weird thing that maybe has a placebo effect or something.
It's not a placebo and you don't have to believe in it for it to work just follow instructions. Also placebo usually has temporary effect this is permanent. Meaning once you completely treat a specific issue it doesn't ever come back.

>Also are you only suggesting this to abuse victims, or those with some possible minor PTSD or just generic social anxiety like most on this board have?
You can try it on literally any emotional problem, it even works for people with physical pain and disabilities to some extent.

>>34553304
I think it contains some aspects of EMDR but it adds acupuncture and a bunch of other stuff to the mix.

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No one wants to chat on omegle?
I've been looking for you guys for the past 10 minutes. I'm on text not the video section of the site btw.

tag: r9kpostman

>>34553923
As a normie, i appreciate what you are trying to do, but you have to realize that most robots love wallowing in their self-pity.

Actual help and actionable advice will be disregarded, and met with mockery.

>>34553975
I don't think that's true. I think that they really want to help themselves and better their situation but because they have been disappointed so much by peer advice and therapists they think their problems are unsolvable.
They are afraid to try and help themselves again, because they can't take another disappointment.

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Still here guys...

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Comfy house in the woods.

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Somewhat comfy big city apartment.
6/10 on the comfy scale.

What a fuckin tryhard lmao

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>>34554721
Yeah, I'm not getting much love but that doesn't mean I'll stop trying.
Important issues require perseverance, and Postman is not going anywhere until the last robot feels ok again.

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>>34554875
This is not a porn thread, I'm trying to help robots where therapists and band-aid advice failed them.
But you can post whatever you want, it's cool.

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This will not bring you salvation.

>>34555038
Salvation is debatable, relief is guaranteed.

>>34555090
Relief without salvation is worthless. This is ungodly.

>>34555113
I said debatable not absent, salvation is a subjective term.

Would this fix my chronic lack of motivation and shitty concentration?

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Does any of this work for literal autists? I have tried so many different things that seem to cater to normies.

>>34555274
Sure, but you need to be specific.
The worst mistake when doing EFT is being too general and broad about your problem.
For example you don't tap on "lack of motivation" or "shitty concentration".
You break them down and tap on the most specific thing you can, generally you'll want to find events in your life as early as possible for when you felt this way.
Say you were 8 years old and your mom was yelling at you for not doing your homework and lacking concentration. That's a specific event.
Once you tapped on a few of those you'll collapse the whole thing and won't have the problem anymore.

>>34555322
It works for everyone, some even claim that it worked on calming their pets because some animals share a lot of their biology with us. I don't really buy that because I've never tested it but it will definitely work for you if you're human.

Assuming this is similar to EMDR, in cases of PTSD it's been known to be 80-90% successful. I was one of those. I went in sceptical of it and now one of my earliest traumas has dissipated. There are more to work on but I have much more faith now.

I can actually remember feeling miserable in the appointment as the therapist told me to bring up the traumatic scene in my mind. I could not. It was as if there was a very thick black cloth over the memory. I had no more somatic symptoms, no nausea, no racing heart, no sweating. I burst out laughing with relief.

>>34555699
It definitely has eye movements borrowed from EMDR but it's much more than that.
Also while EMDR requires you to "confront" your problem and elevate your stress level as you perform the exercises with EFT you go at your own pace and confront the less painful aspects of the traumatic event first. This makes the process much less painful.

>>34555814
True, but in the case of PTSD specifically, experiencing the stress one last time is part of reprocessing the memory once and for all. It's just how the neurobiological level becomes "flushed" (so to speak) alongside the psychological.

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>>34555699
Seems like snake oil, though you aren't selling anything so idk what your motive is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques

>>34555902
Didn't mean to quote you my man

>>34555930
No problem, it's easy done.

>>34555902
>Seems like snake oil
I agree with you, it does and it's also been grouped with new age pseudoscience so it definitely doesn't have much of a reputation looking at it on the surface level.
However you should read the comments on youtube and forums and you'll see that the amount of people with positive feedback is undeniable and the vietnam war veterans video I posted speaks for itself.
In my experience it worked on literally everyone I've tried it on and results remained after many months.
I don't mean to discredit the psychologists that were cited in that wiki article but I don't really understand why they can't run an unbiased study in a controlled environment instead of providing their "expert opinions", probably because the study would find EFT effective and they'd be out of a job.

>>34555902
>you aren't selling anything so idk what your motive is
And I never will, some people capitalize on EFT by providing paid therapy sessions, seminars etc.
I think it's wrong, the only one in my opinion who is allowed to charge anything for it is the one who put the whole thing together Gary Craig and even he provides a free tutorial on his website.
If EFT is to gain any traction and actually help people it has to be free and open to everyone.
I posted adequate amount of material definitely enough to become competent on performing EFT for yourself and anyone else.

>>34555888
Makes sense.
Here are a couple of articles to illustrate what I meant by gradually going through the event with minimal pain.

http://www.emofree.com/eft-tutorial/tapping-roots/tell-story.html

http://www.emofree.com/eft-tutorial/tapping-tools/movie-tool.html

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>>34552061

"EFT has no useful effect as a therapy beyond the placebo effect or any known-effective psychological techniques that may be used with the purported "energy" technique, but proponents of EFT have published material claiming otherwise. Their work, however, is flawed and hence unreliable: high-quality research has never confirmed that EFT is effective."

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cp.12020/abstract;jsessionid=FDC0F61D4947087514EEB372D98FCC5D.f03t03

Don't waste your time on this shit.

>>34556224
> You should read the comments on youtube


The only people who watch these videos are the ones that are dense enough to fall for this. If you go to flat earth conspiracy videos on youtube you'll see a bunch of comments "proving" that it's true.

How are people this stupid? I thought this board had at least a relative degree of intelligence.

Oh hey look, it's this shill thread again.

Don't fall for this shit - even if it works, you're literally just deleting emotions - emotions have a purpose after all.

It's new age nonsense, and also >>34558629
This.

>>34558629
>>34558709
>>34558938
Hey, thanks for bumping the thread.
We've already covered most of what you're saying.
Regarding youtube comments, there's concrete undeniable scientific evidence proving the curvature of the earth that directly contradicts the "flat earth" argument.
There is nothing like that for EFT, the creator proposes a hypothesis (i.e energy healing) which I openly admit doesn't sound very plausible. This however in no way diminishes the actual results people get from going through the procedure.
Just because you don't know HOW it works doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You're probably just trolling, but feel free to rant some more and bump the thread again. I really don't mind it.

>>34559255
You are really filled with anger. All these sarcastic remarks. Not a good role model at all.

>chronic insomnia
>realized recently alot of this is tied into my own personal anxieties and stress like being a neet and having rocky relationships, worrying about my family and also being alone
>still happens often
>ill end up either sleeping 2-3 hours over a 2 day span or not sleeping an entire night through until like noon
>gives me heart palpitations and makes me think im going to die from sudden cardiac arrest which only increases my anxiety
>makes it difficult or impossible for me to travel which i want to do


help me

>>34560538
haha, honestly made me chuckle.
Calling people dense for being desperate enough to try something unconventional and I'm the angry one? That's rich.
In any case, I'm not trying to be a role model I just want to do my best to help the robots here.

daily reminder that EFT EFT has no benefit as a therapy in numerous trial, beyond the placebo effect. It is generally characterized as pseudoscience and it has not garnered any support in clinical psychology at all. it is basically new agey bullshit with zero science behind it. ignore this thread in the future

>>34560637
Hey, I'll just assume you're vaguely familiar with EFT (If you're not you can follow any of the links I posted)

>chronic insomnia
Too vague for our purposes, let's break it down to specifics so we can properly address it.

>realized recently alot of this is tied into my own personal anxieties and stress like being a neet and having rocky relationships, worrying about my family and also being alone
This is exactly what I mean you did half the job already.

Make a list of at least 10 bothersome events that happened in your life preferably in childhood and adolescence that you think are contributors to your anxiety and stress. No need to describe them in detail just a couple of words is enough.
Tap on each of these events and bring your emotional intensity to 0. You must feel like you have 1000's of those but most of them share some underlying themes and once you've gone through about 10-15 you'll definitely see a massive improvement.
Remember to rate your intensity level from 0-10 before and after tapping so you keep track of your progress.

>>34560810
Daily reminder that Postman appreciates you bumping his threads, and he's here even for you if you need anything.

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>>34561319
Thanks, very comfy indeed.
If anyone wants help with something specific we can text chat on omegle, but please tell me first and I'll start looking for you. Yesterday I waited for you guys refreshing the page for half an hour and no one showed up.

tag: r9kpostman

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>>34561372
Friend, I'm far too ugly for webcam chat.
If I wasn't though I would definitely get on omegle with you.
Cheers.

>>34561439
I understand that some of you are self conscious about your looks. I don't want you guys to feel uncomfortable, since EFT is a painless process and I want to stay true to that. That's why I'm on the text portion of omegle.
haha, I hope I wasn't refreshing the text page like an idiot while all of you were looking for me in the webcam section.

If you're still up to it get on now.

>>34560703
>honestly made me chuckle
No it didn't
>that's rich
Something bitchy, sadistic people always say.

You are a role model on account of you being a spokesperson for this,whether you want to be or not. If you are such a vicious bitch, then obviously these techniques haven't worked for you.
You are looking to belittle people. I hope you die in a painful fashion, just so more people don't have to suffer from your influence.

>>34561490
Alright, give me a sec

Original post

>>34560810
No I use it every day and it works. Possibly try tapping the prostate too.

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>>34561490
I'm not really familiar with Omegle chat but this is what I'm getting when I put r9kpostman under similar interests.

>>34561530
>No it didn't
Sorry it really did, the irony of your statement was not lost on me.

>Something bitchy, sadistic people always say.
>If you are such a vicious bitch, then obviously these techniques haven't worked for you.
>You are looking to belittle people. I hope you die in a painful fashion, just so more people don't have to suffer from your influence.
See, when you say things like this it doesn't really make sense to call me an angry vicious bitch. Don't you think?

>You are a role model on account of you being a spokesperson for this,whether you want to be or not.
You're probably right on that account even though I don't aim to be one.
I do my best to be courteous but obviously can't satisfy everyone (mainly you).

>>34561632
I'm definitely on right now.

>>34561653
Yeah, thanks for the help. The server disconnected due to a technical error but I'll bump this thread for you and use the links you posted.

>>34561964
No problem, now that you're familiar with the process feel free to join my threads any time, I'll help you with your progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wG2FA4vfLQ

btw this is the better video for anyone interested in a quick tutorial. It's much less "new-agey".
I'll updated the links in a future post.

thank you for doing this OP

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>>34562115
You're welcome friend. Postman is always here for you.

I've done a lot of study into psychology, 'energy healing', hypnosis, EFT, acupuncture, etc.
The main point people like to bring up is it's 'placebo effect'.
However, that's still placebo effect. Can you explain placebo effect? How much placebo effect can do?
Because it basically has been shown in cases to have done some pretty ridiculous shit. It's not pseudoscience, in fact for years they've known there is a huge connection between mind and body. Your heart is linked to your brain on a neuronal hotline, same with your stomach. Information is being passed from second to second it is what your feelings actually are, which is why you get that 'heavy chest' feeling and certain emotional responses.

Placebo Effect is ridiculously powerful. When you say 'well it's just idiots or strange cases that this works for' I think people are partly correct. All of these niche alternative health methods do the exact same thing, which is convince a person to stop being a shit to themselves.
EFT in particular uses re-grading the discomfort at a number level and repetition. It could be fucking with the whole nerve system on a basic level, could just be you fooling yourself into not giving yourself additional problems on a subconscious level.

Because that's the true enemy, I've found, the subconscious. To the point where someone can convince themselves that childbirth isn't painful at all, manipulate their mind's perception of pain by convincing themselves that it's not like that. It's changing the person themselves on a basic level, and it happens all the time. I suggest anyone who thinks 'placebo effect' is hooey recognize that placebo effect is still very desired in the medical community. Influencing your thoughts at a basic level creates mental health, but it also can effect physical health. It's not clear to what level, but not trying to exploit the 'placebo effect' is in my opinion simply a waste.

>>34562531
Well thought out post. You should look into the more traditional EFT approach with the 9 gamut, collarbone breathing, basically anything 90's with Gary Craig and Adrian Foley. When the "new age" movement picked EFT up in the late 2000's I think they sullied it a bit and added too many shortcuts. It's always best to learn the complete process. I posted the piratebay link to the videos if you're interested.
If the person experiences complete and lasting relief from their problem, then calling it a "placebo" doesn't really make any difference because as far as that person is concerned they are healed.

>>34561639
>the irony of your statement was not lost on me.
Another thing bitchy, sadistic people say. If you chuckled, it was a forced chuckle
>See, when you say things like this it doesn't really make sense to call me an angry vicious bitch. Don't you think?
Yes it does because you are. Now you are calling me an angry vicious bitch. It can only be one of us and it's you. I am trying to save these people from you and so I have to fight fire with fire.

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>>34562859
>Now you are calling me an angry vicious bitch. It can only be one of us and it's you.
No but seriously you're making me laugh again, I'm 100% serious.
I think you need to be much meaner than that and maybe then I'll take you seriously I don't know.

>>34552019
You're a good person for doing this anon i hope you know this.
Thankyou

>>34562916
You are being fake. You are not acknowledging the truth of what I said about you.

I'll leave this tab open and look into all this stuff tonight.
It sounds like some new age crap, but the fact that you're not trying to get money out me makes me trust your words a little more.

So guys, I just want to check in and say today is another day that I got rid of oneitis for this girl.

Yeah, I occasionally think about her, but that's with every person I know and care/cared for.

I know that in my future, she will wamt a chance with me due to my accomplishments and future wealth, but I might either reject her or give her a 1 month shot and see if it goes anywhere, that is, I am not dating someone else.

Point is, anyone with a oneitis for someone. Trust me, get your mind to dream big and she will disappear.

Who else dropped their oneitis?

>>34552019
No, I like wallowing in my pain.