Hey robots, I've been wondering. What is the ultimate red pill?

>>34522264
That your the real insane outlier in a world made to perfectly function for everyone except you

>>34522264
just be yourself man, it's really that simple

>>34522444
Checking my own trips because I don't care

>>34522444
So correct that he got some trips. Job well done anon

femboys are the final redpill

>>34522264
Bogpill is above and beyond the redpill

>>34522264
The Holy Quran

>>34522264
Killing yourself.
This world is beyond our saving now.

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the ultimate redpills is accepting we are the baddies

>>34522264
DEATH

oregon

>>34522264
The truth, my blind friend.

>>34522730
Thank you for the relatable reference anon.

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>>34522264
This

>Intense chuckling ensues

>>34522264
I don't know

I highly doubt anyone on here knows either

It sure as hell won't be anything about roasties or gf, and anyone close to the level of understanding to get a "final redpill" will probably very different from someone posting on 4chan

"Good" is lying and "Evil" is honesty.

kindness is a meme

>>34522264
gnosticism - god is evil and material world is a prison

jews - they're literally not human and wage total war against humanity since the day they materialized in our plane of existence

the meaning of life is to defeat the jews and break free from the material prison built by their "god" yahweh-moloch

>>34522264
You're just an animal letting chemicals in your brain decide how you should live your life. Accept your place in the universe as nothing more than a being that exists to reproduce and eat, or die sad and alone.

Ignorance is bliss

>>34522876
>>34522762
What if the ultimate redpill can only be given by the Absolute and to get it we really need to die first? Isn't it what most religions are about? Could faith actually be the tool we need to uncover the very essence of existence, of reality?

>>34522264
The knowledge that Jesus Christ died on the cross for us.

Also your daily reminder that the crucifixion of our Lord is undisputed historical fact and even uninterested parties like the Roman general Tactitus wrote about the event.

>>34522996
You don't need faith to die

And believing something doesn't mean you've discovered anything. It's also pretty much the exact opposite of a redpill

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There is no ultimate red pill. There is no end to the rabbit hole.

But here's something for ya:
The idea of the 'self', the notion that we're separate from everyone around us and from our environment; that idea is a lie. It is the mental prison we've collectively built around ourselves. Ever wonder why people seem more and more empty and depressed? It's largely because of the ever increasing power of the self/ego.

>>34522918
Morality is subjective though
Original statement of fact

>>34523119
Why do you think it is a lie? To distinguish between things is the basis of all understanding.

>>34522264
I think the final redpill is that it's okay to be gay

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>>34523323
>morality is subjective
Because of people thinking like that the world descends into nothingness of nihilism and decadence.
It would have been much better place if everyone actually followed rules given by God. Instead, a man decided to create his own morality and become a god himself.

>>34522264
The ultimate redpill is accepting that conspiracy theories are false and there really is no one in the shadows "trying to get you"

>>34523475
Nice try NWO.
I'll get you one day.

the one that drpepper took

>>34522264
Everything-is-one quantum pysics:
all rules of physics, nature, and all traditional moral values, they all have their foundation in the working principles of the universe. Depending where you are and where you look to, you will need to recalibrate your worldview. Physics come from mathematics, biology comes from physics, traditional morality comes from biology. Humans are apex predators, so liberalism and socialism will never work except to cause the sicknesses zoo animals suffer from.

We're living in a zoo and can't realize our potentials because we simply aren't mindful of it.

>>34522264
Lmao is that DXM?

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>>34522264
Islam. Accepting, converting, and embracing Islam.

It is a moral system that puts women in their rightful place as the subservient wife to man, that rightfully strikes down progressive faggotry and degeneracy, and that is highly insulated, nationalistic, and xenophobic, to prevent foreign influences from corrupting it.

>>34523521
I can feel a trilby growing on my head while reading this

>>34523507
Like honestly the biggest problem with such theories is that why would someone go to such extends to greate an NWO. What could possibly motivate such an thing. Also the logistics required to run such a thing are far too large to be run in secrets.

>>34523617
Power and greed. It hasn't stopped many men before from trying. And they don't need it to be a secret at a certain point, they just need scare you into silence.

>>34522264

Most of your life is determined at birth.

In this way, the world is extremely unfair. Rags to riches is incredibly rare, if you're born to shitty parents you'll always be broken emotionally and socially, ect.

>>34523595
Fun fact: all-is-one quantum physics is anti-atheistic.
:^)

>>34523748
The world is a fairer place than you think, anon. Wealthy people sometimes just can't hack it either and shoot themselves or die from horrible diseases their money can't save them from.

>>34523791
Impartial=/=fair

>>34523748
Determinism is a fallacy. Only when you fall for the trap that you need to excel in life like you're prescribed to, then you'll feel miserable.

Find what makes you truly happy, fulfill all basic human desires, and stop thinking what others want you to think. Think for yourself.

You create your own meaning and determine what the red pill is within your mental faculties

>>34523791
Rich people are very inclined to take drugs or seek other thrills. The less they have to worry the less they become human. The less they become human the less likely they'll survive.

three that I realized is:

1) You can lie you just have to be good at it
2) You can can have lady friends If you're not 'serial-killer creepy weird' And I mean that in the most literal sense they will alley-oop you some easy lays
3)don't go actively looking for a gf All the things I lost, I found by not actively looking for it do what you enjoy and boom it'll happen

>>34523920
>>34523962
The normanz have arrived
/thread

>>34524032
t. Normie trying to fit in

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>>34523338
>Why do you think it is a lie? To distinguish between things is the basis of all understanding.

To become proficient at the game we're playing, you're correct: we must understand the different elements in play. But once you begin to ask "what is this game", it becomes apparent that we're all the same. And people have largely become blind to this understanding. At least to my observations.

see pic related for a basic example of what I'm talking about

>>34523617
>what could possibly motivate such a thing
Powerful Jews (not all jews like civilian jews) but powerful Jews literally do nothing but try to undermine every society they infiltrate for total control. I have no reason to not believe some people in the world are just pure evil from what I've seen, and this applies to all races.

>>34522264
you're useless and nothing you do will ever matter?

>>34522264
realizing that you realistically have 60 years of your life left to live and there's still a pretty decent chance you die well before then, so you may as well get out of this life what you can

>>34524055
t. normie popping flares

>>34523119
Dude. This is the everyone-is-one idea I tried to explain. The universe is us, but we're not the universe. We are all one but need to live our lives ourselves.
>>34523338
This. Enlightment is replacing one set of differentiating things with another that aligns with the universe.
>>34524126
Christian symbolism is good but we can go deeper by philosophizing about the meaning of the symbols.

>>34524273
>We are all one but need to live our lives ourselves.
Hol up
So you be sayin
That, just theoritically, I am the Chad that screws my crush RIGHT FUCKING NOW, and also I am that crush? Are you saying that I am literally cucking myself with my other self but it's actually masturbation?
I don't know how to feel about this.

>>34524396
Let me word it better:
We all are going to experience all instances of life. Reincarnation doesn't care for time and space.

>>34522264
There's nothing we can really know. You just have to acept mankind's ignorance. Setting a goal? Sure, since we don't know, you can't do anything worth except trying to alleviate human suffering.

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>>34524273
>Christian symbolism is good but we can go deeper by philosophizing about the meaning of the symbols.

Yep. Like I said, it's a basic example. I don't know much myself, but I've been getting into Jordan Peterson's lectures and he does a lot about storytelling and symbols. Another name that keeps popping up when I look into this stuff is Carl Jung, whose work I like a lot. My intro to him was his personality work with the 8 cognitive functions/16 personality types.

The world is a crazy place and I'm just starting to build an understanding.

Never have kids and all the problems of living die with you

>>34524536
>Carl Jung
Top tier. The project concerning human brains claim Freud's a hack and Jung was right.
>tree of life
Be careful. The tree originated among the Egyptians and the Jews repurposed it to fit with the OT, so you can find a lot of Semitisms in it which you need Hebrew for to understand.

>>34524467
Well, that still doesn't answer the single most important existential question: for what purpose? What is ultimately achieved by experiencing every life possible?
I'd rather be awarded a paradise for virtuos life where I can live happily ever after in the presence of The God Almighty who will answer all my questions, or be sentenced for eternity of hell for my sins. At least that's an endgoal, not just neverending cycle of life with no conclusion.

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>>34522264
Fascism
>Combats greedy capitalist pigs
>Combats fanatical socialists
>Combats moral degeneracy
>Promotes higher values
>Promotes good health
>Promotes traditional gender roles
It truly is the middle way between laissez-faire capitalism and socialist degeneracy

>>34524675
>everyone itt talks about the meaning of life
>uneducated /pol/ fucking shit comes to shill his political ideology

>>34522264
Its Raspberry

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>>34522730
>mfw I remember everyone hates us

>>34524663
It gets better: the NT has quotes implying heaven and hell are the same place, aligning with the "Eastern" religions like Ancient Egyptian or Hindu. "Bad" people - people who damaged their souls with vices - will suffer in the places where good people with undamaged souls will prosper. We get to choose to be reborn or to stay and guide the reborn ones with non-physical aid. The "not knowing" is just a part of physical life; after death, there are no blockades. However, we feel the suffering of the living when not reborn, including the pain they themselves aren't aware of, and don't want to feel that feel - so we come down and help.

>>34522730
>we're the baddies
For them. Light burns.

>>34524785
Nu-/pol/ is shit, but you'd be surprised how discoursy they used to be.

>>34524126
I get that you have a concept of God as everything and everyone, but to identify as that concept and not as your person is a different matter.

I have this understanding in the back of my head, and some times I draw upon it to detach myself from whatever is bothering me, but most of the time I am unaffected.

To be with this understanding at all times would require a sage-like life of nothing, but contemplation on the idea. It is an active struggle to maintain, and not some blissful tranquility.

>>34522264
ironpill is the final redpill

the bogpill

>>34522264
greenpill is final redpill

>>34525210
Emerald pill is the final iron pill.

>>34525124
This is why sages and mythological wizards were very rare.

>>34523475
>>34523617
>one electronic New World Coin(tm) has been deposited to your brain implanted control device

>>34525267
I think it is the abode of philosophy and not magic.

>>34522264
Cyanide pill. Being able to accept your death because there is no such thing as a purpose and the goods don't out way the bads.

>>34522996
tbqh I sometimes fantasize about dying and becoming an omnipotent force that can do whatever and knows everything about every single thing that has existed and will exist

Too bad that's probably not what happens.

>>34525451
Philosophy comes from philo-sophy - love for wisdom. "Magic", as we call it, is rules not or mis-undersood. The philosopher is on a good path to magick, but knowing is never enough; one must apply.

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>>34522264
Moment before death. Nothing matters in the end.

>>34523119
>It is the mental prison we've collectively built around ourselves
>ourselves
Congratulations on contradicting yourself. At least try reading some philosophy before going into rambling.

>>34522523
Can I get a rundown?

>>34522264
LSD

origanu

>>34525549
'Magick' like Thelema or Kabbalah is feel-good bafflegab. The problem with all mysticism is that you are left bewildered rather than understanding.

>>34525679
>Thelema
>Kabbalah
Both are nigger magic. Even worse are the kinds promoting drug use. Real magick comes from the souls, not from forcing answers. One gets bewildered because forcing answers is limiting the potential pool of knowledge. Take and you will have; ask and you will receive.

>>34525769
No. One gets bewildered because the goal of mysticism is to mystify. It is why mysticists of all kind always speak in vague one-liners and platitudes.

In philosophy the emphasis in on clear and understandable language.

>>34525815
Our biggest problem in mysticism is, most words in human languages are unsuitable. Human languages are a compromise between encoding culture and daily use. This is why philosophy repurposes words, sciences create new ones, and mystics use metaphors and very unexplicite phrases. The other aspect is that we're not being taught all of it (some people think it's more danger than good and that most people aren't "ready") and there's a lot, so one needs to invest a little bit of time; it has a certain learning curve.

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>>34522264
The ultimate blue pill is working a 9-5

That is all I can tell you

>>34522264

All of the cliche advice that you are told all throughout your life is the simple and direct route to having a good life. The provable is that it required hard work, willpower, and sacrifice of your time. Materialism, procrastination, dopamine seeking behaviour, being sold a dream by someone profiting off of you, all of these things will get in the way and over complicate your life.

Think of any cliche that you hear and consider that maybe the reason that you hear it so often is because it's just really obviously good advice that has worked for millions of people throughout history.


>attitude is the little thing that makes a big difference
Sounds cliche as fuck, because every successful person has made the simple choice to start their day with a positive attitude for a number of years despite the stressor and conflict in their life. It makes them easier to deal with and more enjoyable to be around. Others rally around that positive mindset, BOOM you have friends.

Or you can take your advice from a subterranean bismuth mining operational communication forum, call every single person better than you a "chad", oversimplification the world and live in a sheltered box, return to your hug zone safes pace echo chamber of thoughts here on 4chan, where you can find praise for your poor choices in life.


The answers are really fucking obvious and we all know them, it's just not the path of least resistance and that's why we don't act on these thoughts.

>>34525914
I get that language can be ill-fitted to describe some things, but philsophy and science have rigorous standards for language, that mysticism simply lacks.

I think a lot of philosophers have simply been called mystics, because they were misunderstood by people.

>>34526129
Some were, yes. Others were regarded like professors today - removed but respected by society. Mystics do mystify because a part of the magic is thinking it's special. When the special feeling isn't there, it doesn't work. Placebos, for example, is a modern word for a concept mystics understood very early on.

All women want Chad either secretly or openly, mostly openly these days, and its their goal to fuck as much chad cock as possible before settling down with a compsci beta. You shouldnt be okay with this.

Hitler was actually a fantastic leader and all he wanted was to get the land back that Germany lost after ww1. Not simply to be an asshole but because those lands were literally mostly Germans. His ww2 actions were mainly preemptive. Also the holocaust was an extreme exaggeration by zionists to get Israel created. They were labor camps in which death occured only due to a lack of supplies (war). You have to be a serious brainlet to not realize this by now.

Sjw stuff is bullshit; feminism is cancer, there are only 2 genders, and traps are mentally ill. Lastly there is an unintentional campaign to end the white race and western civilization by pussifying and demonizing white men, as well as glorifying race mixing. If you are a white man is time to speak up.

>>34526242
I think mystics focus on the step that comes before the realization.

Like if you consider that you have had all of eternity ot be born and live, and yet it at this exact moment that you do live, you will be mystified, but if you follow through on the thought the mystification passes and suddenly it seems like the only way things could be.

Someone who is mystically minded, like for example Einstein who has said

>The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion. Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science.

,effectively stop before the finish line, not reaching the truth.

>>34526448
Wrong. The chad fascination is a drug response in the brain. To change sexual partners has a very similar effect in the brain like taking cocaine or meths does; the more you take the more you need.

Women want a fully developed male and may even live their entire life monogamous once found. This is how evolution made us. However, taking away the societal danger of stigma rendered on of Mother Nature's finest tools less effective: slut-shaming. The fully developed male is an Alpha Positive, but the Chad is an Alpha Negative.

For example, in Eastern Europe women are considered either mothers or worthless subhumans and treated as such. Sluts are subhumans and treated as such. Other women partake in slutshaming and violence against women. Hungarian women are known for using knives to scar or heavily wound sluts and prostitutes.

>>34526485
Maybe you got a point. There's a saying called "the way's the goal" or something like that. Once you reached it, what else can you do? Find a new goal, maybe.

>>34526798
>Once you reached it, what else can you do?

As I said before it is active effort to remain in the state of realization. This is because we will always have thoughts and emotions from our personality, which leads us to identify as distinct people, unless they are recognized and discarded,.

>>34526933
>unless they're recognized and discarded
Dude. You just explained the whole point of alchemy and enlightment.

>>34523617
>What could possibly motivate such an thing
Oh I dunno, money and power perhaps?

>>34523456
Sorry, which one of the ~30 million gods allegedly out there are you talking about?

>>34526989
I paraphrased an indian 'mystic' called Nisargadatta. Him, and Osho are people who are known as mystics, but who are basically just philosophers.

>>34527137
The whole of mysticism nowadays uses a lot of philosophical concept. The "cave" is the most popular.

>>34523011
i didnt ask that nigga to die for me. motherfucker did it all on his own, if it did help me then sure i appreciate it, but thats it. its like a stranger washing your car and then getting made because you wont pay them, even though you didnt ask them to

That the eart is fat1!1!!!1 bc u canr see the curve xD sp00ky xDD

>>34522264
>2017
>red pill
>he hasn't taken the crimson pill yet

>>34522962
so your solution is to take a blue pill and chill out?

>>34523456
>Better

A word which means absolutely nothing in this context.

>>34522264
We are the imagination of ourselves

>>34527680
There is no solution, because there is no problem.

>>34522264
Red pills don't exists, in reality they're just bluepills to convince yourself that your own ideals are the only correct ones.

>>34523551
Hush, you!

>>34522264
The absurdity of existence

when you /get/ it, it's pretty liberating

If you are reading this, wake up, please wake up right now.

You have been in a coma for 10 years, this is the only way we can reach you.

WAKE UP!

>>34522264
mortality

>>34526104
This guy gets it for the most part

mind over matter

Is suicide the ultimate redpill?

>>34526104
DFW? Is that y-you?

>>34530239
HOW DO I WAKE UP PLEASE HELP

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Survivalism.

>>34522264
that would be a cyanide pill

>>34522264
Accepting the concept of original sin

>>34532807
lold out loud at this kuk to be honest

>>34533080
nothing else keeps people honest

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That the human mind is not a shining beacon on a distant hilltop. The mind is essentially just a complex computer. Our sense of 'self' is all a function of our past experiences and our inherent personalities.
Amnesiacs are often told they have different personalities than before they lose their memory. Some enjoy foods they once hated, or dislike people they once liked. Some are fundamentally different people entirely. In patients that cannot form new memories, they will continually repeat the same questions and reply the same things if the input is the same. If you ask the same thing in the exact same way 10 times in a row, they will reply exactly the same way. We are just automatons in the end.
And of course you know about brain trauma causing personality changes. There are many famous incidents of this, such as the man with a pole going through his head. All of this evidence points toward the sad realization that our selves, our thoughts, our personalities, our likes, our hopes, our fears, our love, is just a chemical response to stimuli that can change in an instant with a few tweaks to our neurons.

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>>34522264
The ultimate red pill is that there is not an ultimate red pill